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Sharks Pondering Possible Smit Signing


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Posted in :In the news, Sharks on 22 Feb 2008 at 10:27

The Sharks procurement committee that met on Thursday have put on hold a decision on whether to take back Springbok captain John Smit, should he return permanently from France.

By Mike Greenaway

The Sharks procurement committee that met on Thursday have put on hold a decision on whether to take back Springbok captain John Smit, should he return permanently from France.

SA Rugby announced on Wednesday that Smit would be the Springbok captain for this year and that they were negotiating a release for Smit from his two-year contract with Clermont Avergne.

Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl said it was too early for the Sharks to act on this development, because SA rugby’s discussions with Clermont were in their infancy and nothing was concrete.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=18&art_id=vn20080222071216529C676968

EDITORS NOTES: Some big decisions still to be made by the Sharks that will affect SA and Sharks rugby in a big way.

Bismark is a future star, while a lot has been invested in Burden. John is about 30 now, which is about the prime for a hooker, but methinks that he will only play till about 32 anyway; in SA at any rate.



54 Comments

  • Hardly THAT surprising that they decided not to decide at this stage.

    If they were definitely going to contract him, though, they would have said so.

    Maybe they want to see how the situation looks at the end of the Super 14. A lot probably depends on how Burden goes in th Super 14 and whether Jenneker finally lives up to his promise

  • Comment 1, posted at 22.02.08 10:41:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • This just gives the sharks more depth in that position and also adds another loosehead if necessary. I don’t see a problem with Smit and Bismark working in tandem. PdeV is clearly planning for the Lions tour and bringing Smit back for that is a master stroke, whether it’s to be the captain for the tour, or for Smit to help nurture the next captain.

  • Comment 2, posted at 22.02.08 10:49:23 by Superwors Reply

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  • Wilkommen auf Ruggaworld, Wors! Sehr Gemichtlicht!

    Or something

  • Comment 3, posted at 22.02.08 10:51:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • Wors – what do you think of This article that I wrote yesterday?

  • Comment 4, posted at 22.02.08 10:52:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • :-) Cheers RobD, really like the look of this site.

  • Comment 5, posted at 22.02.08 10:55:07 by Superwors Reply

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  • thanks Wors. It’s good to see you on here.

    We must still make a plan about that braai. Maybe in the spring?

  • Comment 6, posted at 22.02.08 11:01:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ja, for sure, our door is always open and there is always chracoal around to fire up Mr Weber. Will have to look at the rugby calendar to sort out a date, perhaps the S14 final when the Sharks are at home?

  • Comment 7, posted at 22.02.08 11:05:24 by Superwors Reply

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  • now I LIKE the sound of that one!

  • Comment 8, posted at 22.02.08 11:07:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • I see your points in the other article, but still believe Smit will be of value to the Sharks squad, as others mentioned, he probably won’t play in this years S14 anyway, where Bismarck will cement his position as one of SA’s best, but Smit’s leadership is where his value really lies and surely the other hookers in the squad can only benefit from his experience.

  • Comment 9, posted at 22.02.08 11:07:58 by Superwors Reply

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  • I htink John was important to the Sharks as a captain, but I’d prefer a long term investment in the future. Unfortunately, the lure of the foreign riches is a huge factor, and something we in SA need to overcome. Bismack has the opportunity to make the position his own, and if the Sharks could hang onto their young talent (Bissy, Burden, Cilliers, Beast, Sykes, Kanko, Pienaar, Barritt, Murray, JP, Frans) we could be in for a few golden years in Durban.

    But I have a sneaking suspicion that with Dick’s departure, we will also have others – unrelated.

    This simply HAS to be the Sharks year, not should, but must.

  • Comment 10, posted at 22.02.08 11:10:16 by hellbent Reply

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  • HB? Are contracts coming to an end at the end of this year?

  • Comment 11, posted at 22.02.08 11:12:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • I just prayer that nobody has serious ideas about reconverting John into a prop….its been shown time and time again that he is a weak scrummager at prop.

  • Comment 12, posted at 22.02.08 11:18:02 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Rob, no idea, and if Rudi was clever, he would ahve tied the major players in for 3 years or more at the end of last year after we lost Butch, Monty, John, to make sure there is a good succession plan going forward and that we hold onto some of our stars.

    We however, don’t want a Bakkies scenario, and that happened before with Puke and Brent if you recall.

    (Considering the Mujati situation now -and with the 2 players below in mind, the Stormers seem to be hellbent on creating problems with contracting players….)

  • Comment 13, posted at 22.02.08 11:22:04 by hellbent Reply

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  • ha ha… Dive Pass’s favorite drum ;)

  • Comment 14, posted at 22.02.08 11:22:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well – we do have a lot of really good talent in some areas. Prop and centre are where the most congestion is

  • Comment 15, posted at 22.02.08 11:24:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • RD – have organised your interview. Where should I e-mail his contact details to you?

  • Comment 16, posted at 22.02.08 11:28:35 by Nessa Reply

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  • Yeah, but what if the Sharks lose Bismarck, BJ, Jannie, Kees – they are in a spot of bother….

  • Comment 17, posted at 22.02.08 11:31:10 by hellbent Reply

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  • Kees can go. Either BJ or Jannie can go as well,, just not both.

    Bis HAS to stay…

  • Comment 18, posted at 22.02.08 11:33:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • HB-Lose them to what?

  • Comment 19, posted at 22.02.08 11:34:05 by blackshark Reply

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  • Nessa, who is Rob stalking?

  • Comment 20, posted at 22.02.08 11:34:24 by hellbent Reply

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  • BJ has deep roots in Durban, and I dont know if the Du Plessis’ are likely to travel too far from the farm.

    Its our backs that are of concern to me as well.

  • Comment 21, posted at 22.02.08 11:35:01 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Just cricket.Just for fun.
    Morkel just 5 wicket-hauled Bangladesh

  • Comment 22, posted at 22.02.08 11:36:25 by blackshark Reply

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  • I got to keep beating as hard as I can…. because notwithstanding his inspect-your-own-anus efforts every time he packs down at prop it seems everyone from the guy next to me in the King Park stands to Jack White thinks he can play prop (albeit on an occassional part-time basis with White).

  • Comment 23, posted at 22.02.08 11:37:28 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Smit coming back to Sa and playing for any team other than the Sharks just won’t be right.

    Naas will always be a Bull
    Krige will always be a Stormer
    Francois Pienaar will always be Lions
    Teichman will always be a Shark

    And so to should John Smit always be a Shark.

  • Comment 24, posted at 22.02.08 11:38:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Okay RD – mail sent!

    HB – you will see.

  • Comment 25, posted at 22.02.08 11:39:01 by Nessa Reply

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  • I never stop stalking, HB ;)

  • Comment 26, posted at 22.02.08 11:39:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • Krige will always be a d@@s ;)

  • Comment 27, posted at 22.02.08 11:40:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • and it’s official. RobD is the first to rack up 1000 comments on this man’s site… ;)

  • Comment 28, posted at 22.02.08 11:41:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • Nessa, who is Rob stalking?

    22.02.08 11:34:24 – hellbent Edit

    Anybody whose cell number or email address he can get. :razz:

  • Comment 29, posted at 22.02.08 11:42:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Well done RD! :cool:

  • Comment 30, posted at 22.02.08 11:43:56 by Nessa Reply

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  • 22.02.08 11:36:25 – blackshark
    :lol:

    And so to should John Smit always be a Shark.
    22.02.08 11:38:59 – KSA Shark

    Good point Lawrence.

  • Comment 31, posted at 22.02.08 11:44:30 by Big Fish Reply
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  • KSA, notwithstanding his roots in Pretoria?

  • Comment 32, posted at 22.02.08 11:47:10 by hellbent Reply

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  • Polokwane

  • Comment 33, posted at 22.02.08 12:01:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • HB

    yip.

    He was playing fur us in the u/20′s already and should retire with us. There is a lot of player movement nowadays but there is always the odd player who stays with his union.

    Percy as an example, as much as I loved him at the Sharks he will always be a WP boy to me.

  • Comment 34, posted at 22.02.08 12:16:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I remember meeting John outside the gates of Tukkies in my first year. He was still in Matric then. Told me he’d signed a contract with the Sharks.

  • Comment 35, posted at 22.02.08 12:17:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • Rob Polokwane is Pieterburg (I think)

    But i KNOW PTA is Tswane.

  • Comment 36, posted at 22.02.08 12:18:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Source: Supersport website

    More bad news for Chiliboy

    22 February 2008 (09:13)

    Injury-plagued Blue Bulls hooker Chiliboy Ralepelle injured his knee during the captain’s practice in George on Thursday and he will not be able to play against the SWD Eagles on Friday.
    Ralepelle, who captained the SA XV against the Barbarians in 2006, was due to play for 40 minutes on Friday after he injured ligaments in his knee in 2007′s Super 14 and earlier this year injured his medial ligaments during a training session.

    The team doctor Ewoud van der Linde said Ralepelle injured the cartilage (meniscus) in his right knee and although the injury is not that serious absolutely no chances would be taken with player’s health.

    Van der Linde estimated that Ralepelle would be on the sideline for two to three weeks and he added that the ligaments in his knee were not damaged in the process.

    The coach Nico Serfontein said it was a “freak accident” because he injured his knee without even taking contact.

    Ralepelle will be replaced by Bandise Maku and Brett Sharman will be the reserve hooker.

  • Comment 37, posted at 22.02.08 12:18:24 by Charlie Reply

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  • yes – my point is that John has stronger roots in Polokwane than he does in Tshwane

  • Comment 38, posted at 22.02.08 12:19:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • Cape Town = Slaapstad

  • Comment 39, posted at 22.02.08 12:19:14 by Charlie Reply

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  • Shit Charlie… that is crap news.

    I feel for the poor kid.

  • Comment 40, posted at 22.02.08 12:19:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • :cry: :cry: :cry:

  • Comment 41, posted at 22.02.08 12:19:58 by Charlie Reply

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  • Hey Rob,

    Will you be able to see 2morrow’s match, Sharks vs Stormers BTW… :wink:

  • Comment 42, posted at 22.02.08 12:21:30 by Charlie Reply

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  • …The coach Nico Serfontein said it was a “freak accident” because he injured his knee without even taking contact….

    This must be real bad luck… :sad:

  • Comment 43, posted at 22.02.08 12:22:53 by Charlie Reply

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  • charlie – I am going to record it and watch it later.

    Wife’s birthday party!

  • Comment 44, posted at 22.02.08 12:25:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hey Charlie – some of the players are really unlucky with injury. Scott Mathie is (in my opinion) one of them. He has had knee problems, shoulder ops, you name it.

  • Comment 45, posted at 22.02.08 12:26:38 by Nessa Reply

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  • Chiliboy seems to be the swart version of JDV or AP. :sad:

    Chili: “Ow, I think I hurt my knee!”

    Doctor: “What were you doing at the time?”

    Chili: “I was THINKING about running into the tackle bag really hard when I felt a twinge.”
    :shock:

  • Comment 46, posted at 22.02.08 12:27:40 by Big Fish Reply
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  • And Brent Russell – had a motor bike accident just after his arrival in CT which I think was to his detriment. When he arrived to play for Sarries – broke his collar bone in practice. He now has a hammy injury (which isn’t too bad) but shame! Really feel for him.

  • Comment 47, posted at 22.02.08 12:28:32 by Nessa Reply

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  • Great…

    Hope you all enjoy the party & after match party… :mrgreen:
    Wishing your wife a blessed day and many years to come… :razz:

  • Comment 48, posted at 22.02.08 12:28:44 by Charlie Reply

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  • Scott is like my “operation buddy”… he went in to have his neck fixed the same day I had my elbow op ;)

  • Comment 49, posted at 22.02.08 12:29:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • thanks Charlie. She’s a great lady, all right

  • Comment 50, posted at 22.02.08 12:29:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hallo Nessa,

  • Comment 51, posted at 22.02.08 12:30:47 by Charlie Reply

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  • Rob,

    BTW, was that the after effect of the elbow operation as in you picture… :lol:

    Only playing… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 52, posted at 22.02.08 12:32:38 by Charlie Reply

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  • Rob,

    Take good care of her, she’s a diamond… :wink:

  • Comment 53, posted at 22.02.08 12:33:51 by Charlie Reply

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  • my wife though that would be a good pose. I’m still not sure ;)

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