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Erasmus sweats on Burger

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Stormers on 24 Feb 2008 at 22:14
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Stormers coach Rassie Erasmus, desperately seeking that first win of the season, will be sweating as star flank Schalk Burger heads into a disciplinary hearing on Monday.

Rugby 365 reports that Burger has been cited for ‘bad sportsmanship’, following a sign he showed at the touch judge, after being yellow carded in the Stormers’ heart-breaking 10-12 loss to the Sharks in Durban at the weekend.

Burger became involved in a scuffle between Sharks captain Johann Muller and one of his (Burger’s) teammates – an illegal action pointed out by touch judge Willie Roos. On the advise of Roos, New Zealand referee Kelvin Deaker yellow carded Burger.

As the player left the field he visibly showed his dissent and it is this sign, showed in the direction of Roos, that has now landed him in hot water.

The World Cup-winning Springbok loose forward has been cited under law 10.4(k): “Acts contrary to good sportsmanship. A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship in the playing enclosure.”

The hearing will take place at Newlands on Monday and if found guilty could be banned from anything between four weeks (lower range of punishment) to 52 weeks (the maximum).

Abuse of match officials are seen in a serious light and Burger may well face some time on the sidelines.

Meanwhile Sharks captain Johann Muller showed signs of compassion for his Springbok teammate, Burger, following the news that the latter had been cited for his actions.

Muller said it was “most unfortunate for him under the circumstances”.

Muller said that he and a Stormers forward had been engaged in an exchange of sorts when Burger became illegally embroiled from the side.

“While there was nothing serious in it and no threat of injury, Schalk was unlucky to have been called by the touch judge,” Muller said.

“As the rules stand, however, the referee was right to have taken a yellow card out of his pocket for what was essentially a harmless affair.”

Obviously, Muller did not see the signs of dissent from Burger, as he left the field to serve his 10 minutes of banishment.

Erasmus would hope that his star player is not banned, as their next match is against the table-topping Crusaders – who last Friday smashed the defending champion Bulls 54-19.

The Stormers lost their opening match of the tournament 9-16 to the Bulls and at the weekend again squandered a half-time lead to lose 10-12 to the Sharks.


  • I am in two minds about this.

    Burger had all the baggage of the WP administration making their feelings on Roos’ performance the week before public and from there it is a small step to making your own feelings public.

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.02.08 22:18:17 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • And i re-iterate again it was NOT Roos who suggested the yellow card it was Deaker who cut Roos’ comments short and said that that was what he had seen as well and that he was going to issue a yellow card.

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.02.08 22:19:37 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • Nope – throw the book at him. What he did was unforgivable

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.02.08 23:00:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hear Hear Rob!!

    There is no room for petulant soccer-like behaviour in rugby.
    Burger is a role model & should set an example, frustrated or not.

    Not act like a petulant prima donna.

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.02.08 23:12:54 by Le Requinny Reply
    QuinnysharkCurrie Cup player
  • He thinks he is bigger than the game. Isn’t that exactly the attitude that Rassie is supposed to be getting rid of?

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.02.08 23:21:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • What did you think of the game, Q?

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.02.08 23:23:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • Careful with the “bigger than the game” chirps.

    Schalk has been a fantastic servant to both WeePee, the stormers and SA over the years.

    Lets not take a cheap shot at the boy because he lost his cool.

    What he did wasnt right and he should take eveything coming for it which I am sure he will be man enough to do.

    It does focus attention yet again on refeering which also isnt always the best. Not excusing his behaviour though.

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.02.08 00:14:59 by VinChainSaw Reply
    VinChainSawTeam captain
  • I still maintain Rassie should NOT have allowed Schalk to go to Russia last week. That sort of sends out a message in its own. there were already Bok delegates there & not a prerequiste for the entire squad to be there.

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.02.08 01:17:42 by Le Requinny Reply
    QuinnysharkCurrie Cup player
  • Yep… he needs a slap on the wrist to keep him honest… that behaviour is not how we expect a Bok legend to behave…

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.02.08 04:19:22 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
  • I tend to agree with Vinnie.

    Let’s also not forget that our own Frans Steyn only behaved a little bit better when HE was yellow carded during the RWC.

    Okay Steyn didn’t go as far as Burger but it doesn’t matter you can’t have this type of behaviour in Rugby. What next? Springboks chesting up to a ref to dispute a decision? Oh wait…… That’s already happened. :sad:

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.02.08 07:35:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • let me put it simply. disciplining players has a major flaw. it doesn’t help the team that was effected. schalk may be banned for 3 games. great he deserves it but it doesn’t help the sharks. the sharks need the stormers to be at their strongest this weekend to try and slow the crusaders down. as the infringement happened in the sharks game it is them that should be benefitted from any decision. if schalk gets banned sharks get inconvenienced double. another system needs to be devised to properly benefit the team that was on the receiving end of a players indiscretion.

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.02.08 07:51:07 by try time Reply

    Super Rugby player
  • Good morning everybody. I don’t say Schalk was guilty but he was definitely guilty of breaking the Code of Conduct after the yellow card.. So this is what I think.. make an example of him and give him maximum. If they don’t do anything this incident will start something they won’t be able to control. IMO

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.02.08 07:54:21 by Reds Reply

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  • Thanks Reds

    sort of took the words out of my mouth there.

    TT Burger is not being cited for anything he did to the Sharks. he is being cited for what he did towards the touch judge. NAIL HIM BIG.

    TT for a minute there when starting to read your post I could have been forgiven for thinking you were heading towards a “let’s be lenient on Schalk because it will help the SA cause” opinion.

    I am glad to see you didn’t though, becasue that is EXACTLY what we have accused the other Sanzar Partners of doing when they are lenient on their player transgressions.

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.02.08 08:10:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • Let’s just hope they do a ‘Henjak’ and play him against the Sader’s for the good of all the RSA teams… then penalise him later…

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.02.08 08:22:24 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
  • Not that Schalk will make much difference to the impending hiding…

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.02.08 08:23:42 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
  • ksa my argument is benefit the team that was inconvenienced. i see bowden was given a 1 match ban, how does this help the brumbies? i agree schalk’s indiscretion was not really one towards the sharks team, but it happened in the sharks game and marred the game a bit. but my point is simply benefit the team inconvenienced by the infringement not the next team the offending team plays.

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.02.08 08:28:03 by try time Reply

    Super Rugby player
  • TT

    I see where you are coming from but there is no way that such a system can be implemented though, They can’t exactly tell the Bulls to take a player off this week because the Sharks need to be benefited for waht happened to them last week. :wink:

    The way the punishment is meant to work is that the guys getting punished must realise it affects THEIR team. if they are to “dof” to realise that they are going to get suspended for behaving like children (Burger) or thugs (JP Nel) then their team mates must suffer.

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.02.08 08:33:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • I see JP Nel and Potgieter (Bulls players) will appear on the red carpet tonight.. JP Nel for a stiff arm and Potgieter for a spear tackle… Hope they get maximum. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.02.08 08:37:47 by Reds Reply

    RedsVodacom Cup player
  • I hear they have a housing shortage in Pretoria.. All the Bull supporters are coming back to mother earth~~~ :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.02.08 08:38:49 by Reds Reply

    RedsVodacom Cup player
  • :oops: It was a bit embarassing to see that sort of behaviour from a player like Schalk. I don’t know what came over him…

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.02.08 08:39:28 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
  • Reds

    yeah noticed that as well.

    The “Blue, Blue Bulls” article at 10:08 is Rob’s view on that particular situation and makes for some interesting reading. :wink:

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.02.08 08:43:16 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • Schalk looked like a soccer player from the UK remonstarting and swearing at the match officials. That’s not on. He should get 2-4 weeks.

    On another issue, I thought Luke was shocking, and he and Schalk gave away far too many penalties. 13 penalties and 13 freekicks conceded and 2 yellows. Sharks gave away 3 penalties (not sure how many FKs).

    At the end of the day, SA sides are losing games because of their inability and unwillingness to play the new ELVs, and because discipline is a real problem.

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.02.08 08:46:22 by hellbent Reply

    Under 21 player
  • ksa the only solution would be to dock points from the offending team and a monetary fine to the offending player. i schalks case stormers lose a point and schalk gets fined R50000-R100000.

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.02.08 08:49:10 by try time Reply

    Super Rugby player
  • I was very disappointed in Schalk – he is an amazing player and has never been a bad sportsman before – over-the-top tackling and aggression on occasion, but never Corne Krige type tendencies.

    I am sure that he feels more disgusted by this than we do – but he must receive a fair punishment and I hope he apologises to – too many kids worship him for him to keep silent.

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.02.08 10:31:11 by Big Fish Reply
    Big FishAssistant coach
  • maximum suspension is one year…

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.02.08 10:33:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • Nice site. :)

    I was on a plane from PE the other day. The guy next to me said that he’d been on the same flight as Schalk last year some time. Reckons the guys was a complete gentleman: no ego, no bullshit. Just friendly and very approachable. Apparently he didn’t even introduce himself or talk about rugby.

    I think his behaviour was disappointing considering what he has brought to the game. Remember how he used to be a walking yellow card? I’d thought that his career-threatening injury had matured him a bit, but Saturday saw the brief re-emergence of the old Schalk.

    I reckon they should find him guilty and give him a minimum ban. This sort of stuff needs to be nipped in the bud, lest Rugby become like soccer with the way players accost and disrespect officials.

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.02.08 10:55:47 by Waz Reply

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  • Waz – first comment? Welcome to Sharksworld….

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.02.08 11:09:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • Look Schalla shouldn’t have reacted as he did, but telling a touch judge to open your eyes surely isn’t the worst abuse ever encountered on a rugby field. Any punishment is probably justified.

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.02.08 11:10:25 by Sauce Reply
    Worcestershire SauceCurrie Cup player
  • Cheers Rob!

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.02.08 11:10:55 by Waz Reply

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  • Yeah, very bloggish :)

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  • Comment 31, posted at 25.02.08 11:31:38 by Waz Reply

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  • well – we are committed to putting up as much fresh, original content as we can, considering our amateur status.

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  • Comment 32, posted at 25.02.08 11:44:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • Comment 33, posted at 25.02.08 11:47:24 by Nessa Reply

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  • Ha ha – that will be the day!

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    NessaCurrie Cup player
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  • Comment 42, posted at 25.02.08 12:07:42 by Nessa Reply

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