Big Fish

Now French say they didn’t want Bakkies

Written by (Big Fish)

Posted in :Bulls, In the news, Super 14 on 28 Feb 2008 at 10:35

In an almost comical turn of events French second division club Toulon have backtracked on earlier reports on their website that Springbok and Bulls lock Bakkies Botha had signed with them.

On Monday, the Toulon website claimed that Botha had concluded a deal with them but reports quoted a Toulon spokesperson denying that Botha was ever a player of the club.

“Nothing is happening with Botha. He is not one of our players and never has been. The reports that he has moved to Toulon are completely false. It was wrong information that was put out on our website,” the spokesperson has been quoted as saying.
Toulon’s denial emanates from threats made by the Blue Bulls Company and SA Rugby to lodge complaints to the International Rugby Board on the Toulon-Botha deal as Botha is still under contract to the Bulls for five years and to SA Rugby for three more years.

The Bulls had also denied Botha’s request to be released from his contract three weeks ago with the board of the Blue Bulls also gagging CEO Barend van Graan from engaging in talks with Botha’s agent Bernie Habana.

Another twist that probably turned Botha’s move to Toulon to join Springbok teammate Victor Matfield is the fact that Habana, father of Springbok wing Bryan Habana, is not a registered agent with the IRB or with the South African Rugby Union.

Habana, therefore, has no rights to negotiate contracts on behalf of Botha.

At the same time Habana is also the agent to Springbok and Bulls centre Wynand Olivier and his son Bryan Habana.

Both Olivier and Bryan Habana were reported to have received lucrative offers with French club Bayonne but that speculation amounted to nothing as Habana still has another two seasons to run on his contract which allegedly has no exit clauses.

Had Botha signed a deal with Toulon he would risk a lengthy ban from the game and/or including a fine.

Botha has been named in the Bulls starting team to face the Sharks in the Super 14 at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday after an ankle injury kept him out of the first two games of the competition.

Toulon’s denial of a Botha deal leaves Botha no option but to remain with the Super 14 champions and the Springboks for the next five seasons.

o This article was originally published on page 25 of Pretoria News on February 28, 2008


  • this is bloody comical…

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.02.08 10:40:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • Bernie, Bernie, Bernie…

    You should really know better – get the license first Mac!

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.02.08 10:44:17 by Big Fish Reply
    Big FishAssistant coach
  • this is really just utter nonsense.

    Sharks should sue Bernie for wasting their valuable time two years ago…

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.02.08 10:53:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • maybe the french wanted BJ Botha but someone left the 2nd initial off the enquiry?


  • Comment 4, posted at 28.02.08 10:56:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • well, Bakkies’s actual initials are JP…

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.02.08 10:58:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • ze grapes, zey are sour. ve never wanted zis big buffoon in ze first place.

    Typical French response.

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.02.08 11:00:54 by yossarian Reply

    Under 19 player
  • Man, Im really falling down that Top 10 Posters list…

    Hitler and Goering here are WAY above everybody else.

    I wish I could bring myself to type any ole nonsense like you two… :twisted:

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.02.08 11:03:28 by Big Fish Reply
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  • rob

    I think you should rather be happy than Wynie Olivier didnt get signed by the Sharks.

    Boy would that have been a mistake. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.02.08 11:11:51 by wpw Reply
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  • well it seems quite clear from all this that Bakkies’ heart is no longer with the Bulls, perhaps an approach can be made from the sharks?

  • Comment 9, posted at 28.02.08 13:01:27 by cab Reply

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  • yeah, but which agent do we talk to?

  • Comment 10, posted at 28.02.08 13:04:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • rob,
    reckon its in the interests of all saffas to try and ensure that at least one team remains competitive if SA are to keep their momentum.

    while the bulls fans might moan, and also the sharks fan if the boot was on the other foot, we need to have at least one SA team competing for the playoffs at least from a psychological wellbeing factor if nothing else.

  • Comment 11, posted at 28.02.08 13:08:45 by cab Reply

    cabVodacom Cup player

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