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The Lions will fancy their chances

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Posted in :Lions on 4 Mar 2008 at 20:55

Coach Eugene Eloff on Tuesday announced the Lions side to play the Bulls at Loftus this Friday, it includes just the one change, Walter Venter comes in at Inside Centre in the place of Doppies la Grange, who injured his hamstring in the move that lead to the only try by the Lions in the match against the Western Force at Ellis Park last Friday.

Last year the Bulls won this encounter 31-7 at Ellis Park, scoring 5 tries to 1, but this year the Lions will fancy their chances, even though the Bulls will be favourites to win the match. The Bulls lost a number of top players to overseas clubs, including greats like Victor Matfield and Gary Botha, they are hit by the suspension of two players (JP Nel and Jaco Engels) due to foul play, and they are also struggling under new coach Frans Ludeke, who hasn’t really been successful at Super Rugby Level.

The Lions are also struggling with injuries, perhaps showing that there is a slight lack of player depth, but Eloff will be happy with the fact that he could name virtually the same side that narrowly went down the the Force last Friday, and Walter Venter who is the only new player in the team, certainly does not weaken the team, he started at Inside Centre in the last four Currie Cup matches for the Lions in the 2007 season including the semi-final and final, also scoring two tries in the four games. 


  • Walter, I must say, I am SO IMPRESSED with this Ross Geldenhuys character. He is just an all-round superb player. Where has be been hiding?

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.03.08 22:04:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • I am afraid I am picking the Bulls for this game.

    Bakkies and Habana in the team make all the difference.

    Suddenly you have a forward with some grunt and a back who KNOWS how to step, catch the ball, pass the ball….. Hell Habana can do anything required of him.

    Bulls by 15 or more IMO.

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.03.08 07:01:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • bakkies and habana need match time so they will actually start slowly so will only have any effect later in the game. the lions should have this game if earl is put on wing benjamin dropped. bulls backline is now battling with yet another centre out. so as long as the lions play their natural running game the bulls are in trouble. but it all depends on loffies substitutions. game could go either way but i tip the lions to pip the bulls.

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.03.08 07:33:59 by try time Reply

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  • Ja and Barrit should play 12 :roll: :wink:

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.03.08 07:35:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • only if it is the lions will it make a difference. if he plays for the bulls he won’t see any ball. so if he plays for the lions i tip lions 50 point victory.

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.03.08 07:46:02 by try time Reply

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  • :smile:

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.03.08 07:47:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • i must say i am enjoying the lions attacking rugby. but they aren’t going to attract the players they need if they don’t rebrand, re locate and bring back supporters. if you look at loftus on saturday at all the sharks supporters in the stands. those supporters could have easily been lions supporters had the lions branded themselves better when professional rugby was born. they missed a trick and now are playing catch up.

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.03.08 07:53:29 by try time Reply

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  • actually what an apt article as both teams have a common link. ludecke. he emptied ellis parks stands and squad when he coached the cats and ruined them and now he is succeeding to do it to the bulls. oh the wheel of fortune is cruel. and even crueller when the punishment is self inflicted. go bulls. ha ha ha ha!

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.03.08 07:58:43 by try time Reply

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  • Rob, Ross Geldenhuys is one of three players we “sourced” from Eastern Province in the off season. The other two are Chris Jonck, the replacement scrumhalf (who is also a good place kicker) and RW Kember, the number eight, but Kember wasn’t really such a good buy, I think he was on the bench for the Vodacom Cup side last Friday.

    You are right, Geldenhuys stepped up to the plate and with him holding his own we don’t even miss Mujati. He (Geldenhuys) also does his bit in general play, not scared to put in tackles and carry the ball.

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.03.08 08:44:45 by walter van Reply

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  • I had a quick look. looks like last year he played for the Pumas (Witbank), so I was wrong to say we sourced him from EP. It looks like he started his rugby career in EP as a under 19 player.

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.03.08 08:54:30 by walter van Reply

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  • As a side-note, I often (almost daily) upload video clips on my site ( Today I uploaded the 1st try that the Sharks scored against the Bulls on Saturday, the downloads page can be accessed from the link at the bottom of my site’s front page.

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.03.08 09:19:49 by walter van Reply

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  • Any word on whether Jaco Petorius is fit to play?

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.03.08 09:23:56 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Thanks for that Walter.

    We always love watching Sharks tries. :smile:

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.03.08 09:24:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • DP…he was included for Friday nights match against the Bulls and is likely to play. He was also included for last Friday’s match but failed a fitness test on the Thursday, so I guess we will know by tomorrow night if he will play or not.

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.03.08 09:28:01 by walter van Reply

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  • Strydom still not assured of starting.

    From News 24

    The only injury problem coach Eugene Eloff still has to consider is the knee infection that makes flyhalf Louis Strydom a doubtful starter.

    Playing against the Western Force last week, Strydom took a knock on the same knee that had needed surgery a while ago.

    A decision about his availability will be taken only after the captain’s practice on Thursday.

    “If Louis can’t play, Jaco van Schalkwyk will start at flyhalf against the Bulls,” Eloff said on Tuesday.

    Rudi Vogt will be the reserve flyhalf if Strydom is unavailable but Van Schalkwyk will be on the bench if Strydom plays.

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.03.08 09:28:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Jaco van Schalkwyk at 10 would in my opinion be a better choice then Strydom as an attacking option….

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.03.08 09:33:02 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • For the life of me I DON’T know why but this is a team or players that I can’t comment on.

    For some reason i always miss their matches and can’t say i have watched them play 5 times in 3 years.

    I can tell you who I prefer where for each of the other SA teams but haven’t got much of an idea about the Lions players.

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.03.08 09:38:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Geldenhuys pulled off two BRILLIANT turnovers on Friday as well… really is the form SA tighthead at the moment, which is amazing, considering he’s come from nowhere.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.03.08 10:36:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • Jaco at fly-half will suit his game with the new laws, he is a running fly-half and will make liefling look like he is looking for parking all day long on Sat.
    The demise of the blue bull is immenent…


    And we was robbed lost week..the laws of the universe need to reverse that mistake and make up for it on Sat.

    Have been waiting for Venter to play a very good player much better than Doppies I may add.

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.03.08 14:58:36 by csb Reply

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  • ok, so we have one guy who is VERY positive ;)

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.03.08 15:01:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • CSB why don’t you invite Walter over and the 2 of you can do the Lions war dance for us here on Sharksworld?

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.03.08 15:03:29 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • csb

    As much as I don’t like Louis Strydom, who will place-kick in his absence – I know JAco van Schalk. is not the most consistent.

    Woould hate for the Lions to lose to Liefling’s boot.

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.03.08 15:05:09 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • True Le, we’ll just have to score more tries.. :wink:

    Saying that Jaco on a good day gets most of he’s kicks over.

    Its just a shame the Lions have been disrupted with injuries though..with the likes of AP and Mossie in the backline I reckon we’d be cooking.Also I have been most impressed with Rose’s form of late.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.03.08 15:12:04 by csb Reply

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  • Walter

    I’d like to get your take on Thabang Molefe.

    Do you rate him? I know he did very well with the Baby Boks.

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.03.08 15:12:57 by wpw Reply
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  • wpw long time !

    I rate Molefe from the limited game time I have seen him play..

    To have a proper opnion of him he’ll need more game time..lets hope that he gets it before the Bulls buy him to make up the #’s

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.03.08 15:21:52 by csb Reply

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  • csb

    He was actually with the Bulls a few years back and hardly got a look in.

    He returned to the Lions and has played behind the mighty Doppies and now Walter Venter.

    I think he was nominated as one of the IRB’s U21 players in 2005 but hasn’t kicked on since then.

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.03.08 15:40:12 by wpw Reply
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  • Molefe’s problem is that he hardly ever passes the ball, he is too “suinig” as we say in afrikaans. So because the opponents know that he never passes, they just make sure to tackle him. He is a strong runner, but if he passed more, he would be a much better player.

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.03.08 16:59:53 by walter van Reply

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  • Venter’s a good player too. Was superb in the latter stages of the Currie Cup.

    Don’t know where loffie find these guys!

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.03.08 17:07:27 by robdylan Reply
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