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What to do with Watson?


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Stormers, Super 14 on 5 Mar 2008 at 09:17

Robbie Diack may get a chance to build on last week’s fine performance at No 8 when the Stormers meet the Reds in a Super 14 rugby match in Brisbane on Saturday.

Stephen Nell writes in Die Burger that Allister Coetzee, one of the squad’s assistant coaches, indicated in a call from Australia on Tuesday that Diack could be rewarded with a second successive appearance at eighthman.

Last week, when Luke Watson had flu and Schalk Burger was suspended, the Stormers started the match against the Crusaders with Pieter Myburgh and Francois Louw on the flanks and Diack at No 8.

Watson, according to Coetzee, is now “a hundred per cent fit.”

Coetzee feels Myburgh was not out of his depth in his Super 14 debut, Diack played well against the Crusaders and Louw is improving at No 7.

But the selectors will have to take a good look at Watson and Diack when they name the No 8 against the Reds.

Watson’s experience may be the deciding factor. The Springbok made his name at No 6 and former Stormers coach Kobus van der Merwe even selected him ahead of Burger during the first year of Super 14 rugby.

Burger is still serving the second week of his suspension after being punished for unsportsmanlike behaviour in a match against the Sharks. He will return the moment he is available.

Close to winning

Watson did well at No 8 against the Bulls but was well marked when he wore the same jersey against the Sharks.

The Stormers may also look at Diack as a future blindside flank because of his ball-carrying talents.

For the rest, the team that last week scored the first zero in the Stormers’ history, will be largely retained.

“We are close to winning. And as soon as we win, the players will gain confidence,” Coetzee said.

“Compared with last year’s performances against the same teams, there has been an improvement. We’re winning battles but not the wars.”

After scoring one try in three matches and going 120 minutes without scoring a point, the Stormers have to sharpen their attacking game.

“Finishing is one of our major problems. The top teams grab their opportunities,” Coetzee acknowledged.

“This will happen if we retain our combinations. If players are not up to scratch after four of five weeks we can tell them they’ve had a fair chance.

“We have also paid attention to our game at breakdown points. We have to dominate at contact situations.”

Until former All Black Tony Brown arrives, the Stormers will retain Springbok Peter Grant at flyhalf.

“Peter is showing great improvement. We won’t drop him if we’re not certain we have a better player,” Coetzee explained.



69 Comments

  • Yip…Robbie had a blinder :!: Always rated him as a player. Let’s see what Rassie does…

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.03.08 09:25:25 by shark-tank Reply
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  • i have suggestions to the question. but i getting my final warning so i’ll stop typing now.

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.03.08 09:30:26 by try time Reply
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  • Not much of a decision really… impact player…

    AC now the forwards coach too :shock:

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.03.08 10:19:47 by bryce_in_oz Reply
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  • Didn’t some idiot write an article here saying that Diack wouldn’t be effective under the new laws? :smile:

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.03.08 10:32:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • :lol:

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.03.08 10:36:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Good morning people :shock:
    Robbie Diack is getting better and better :lol:
    Luke Watson is an average player (as Jake White said many times last year).
    C’mon let’s get rid of Luke Watson. Zero tolerance :mad: :twisted:
    Peter Grant can fill the pivotal role we need not only at WP and Stormers but also with the Bokke :razz:
    So let’s get rid of Tony Brown too (I should prefer to strengthen Isma-eel Dollie weapons…) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.03.08 11:24:21 by HO Reply

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  • buongiorno, HO.

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.03.08 11:35:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • Peter Grant can fill the pivotal role we need not only at WP and Stormers but also with the Bokke

    THAT is SO TRUE!!!!!!!

    1995 Bok Flyhalf was from Maritzburg college and the Boks won.
    2007 Bok Flyhalf was from Maritzburg college and the Boks won.

    2011 Any Maritzburg college flyhalves around who are close to Bok selection? YES!!! Peter Grant.

    Peter Grant for Bok 10 in 2011!!!!!

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.03.08 12:30:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Gavin Rich on Superugby:

    “Schalk Brits back as the starting hooker and Luke Watson in his old preferred position of openside flank are the likely changes to the Vodacom Stormers team for their must-win clash with the Reds in Brisbane on Saturday.”

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.03.08 12:34:14 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • 05.03.08 12:30:02 – KSA Shark ©

    I wouldn’t be too surprised if he is wear a black jersey in the Super 14 by that stage…

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.03.08 12:35:02 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • KSA, he needs to move back to Durbs so we can teach him to play rugby again.

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.03.08 12:35:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • DP – great minds ;)

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.03.08 12:35:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • Was Joel still in Dbn in 1995 or had he already moved down to style county?

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.03.08 12:45:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I think he was already a traitor by that stage….

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.03.08 12:51:48 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Nope he moved down to La-la Town in ’94, we got Lance Sherrell in return :roll:

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.03.08 12:52:06 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Lance Sherrell… oh my word. Him and Ryan Walker are the halfback pairing in the worst Natal team ever.

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.03.08 12:53:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • Lance Sherrel :sad:

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.03.08 12:57:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Lance Sherrell WAS better than Clinton van Rensburg at flyhalf… :roll:

    RYan Walker was the biggest tw!t ever, I met him before, remind me to tell you about that over a beer one day…

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.03.08 12:59:12 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Nope he moved down to La-la Town in ‘94, we got Lance Sherrell in return

    05.03.08 12:52:06 – Le Requinny Edit

    Did the “if you want to be a Bok you have to play for WP” rule still apply in 94? :wink:

    That would have been sufficient justification to move then.

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.03.08 12:59:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • lol, yup, that rule seemed to stick around until at least the turn of the century – how else would Baby Slaptjips have gotten a Bok cap?

    No coincidence either that Lance Sherrell was picked for the mid-week Boks in ’93, when still with WP…

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.03.08 13:01:40 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • please do, Q… you know how I feel about that poephol.

    I forgot about the 135kg sack of uselessness that was van Rensburg. If memory serves, he and Walker actually played together.

    Add Gerber and Keil at centre, Smith and Hall at wing and Schutte at fullback and you’re about done.

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.03.08 13:02:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • ooooo :oops:

    that’s just nasty RobD, will take some going to top that backline!

    Roger Smith :evil:

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.03.08 13:04:47 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Rodger Smith. With a “D”… Even his name is wrong ;)

    I feel a bit bad about putting Dean Hall in there… I feel he was a better player than he ever showed at the Sharks.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.03.08 13:06:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • Frikkie Welsh was shite when with us…

    Rudi Keil was pretty uninspiring, but he’s not the worst. Inside centre has to go to Dirkie Strydom, lawdy he was awful. Also played at 10 a few times… came highly rated from the SA Schools team together with John Smit & Jaco vd West. but bombed big time – couldn’t even secure a contract elsewhere after the Sharks released him.

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.03.08 13:07:03 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • no shortage of shit flyhalves, though… we still have Barnard, Kruger, Boeta Wessels and Sherrel screaming for selection.

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.03.08 13:08:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • How about replacing Hall with Gus Theron, after all he was a S12 Sharks… :smile:

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.03.08 13:08:33 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • I was sure Strydom played 15 for Natal? So did Trevor Halstead’s brother…

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.03.08 13:09:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • Did Theron ever actually don the jersey, though? I know he was in the tour squad, but did he ever get onto the field?

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.03.08 13:10:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • Frikkie Welsh was shite when with us…

    Not just when with us I am afraid.

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.03.08 13:12:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • again, on Welsh… did he ever get a senior Natal cap? Not sure he did.

    Jaco… forgot about him. He was also UBER-KAK when he played flyhalf for the Sharks.

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.03.08 13:13:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ja, Strydom could easily have played 15, but appearances would have been limited with both Jouba & Flawless around. Remember Muir had left for WP in ’97, so Strydom played a few games at 12…

    Greg Halstead?

    Ja, I’m pretty sure Theron played a game, he was cr!p though, couldn’t hold onto the ball :roll:

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.03.08 13:13:59 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • who was the blonde Aussie who played flyhalf for us? He was also pants.

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.03.08 13:14:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • ÜBERKAK

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.03.08 13:14:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • I think Welsh got a cap in the Currie Cup, with Bok absences. He (obviously) couldn’t break through though.

  • Comment 34, posted at 05.03.08 13:15:08 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • David Knox

    He had a face only a mom could love :shock:

  • Comment 35, posted at 05.03.08 13:15:37 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • I wasn’t very impressed with the Fernandez-Miranda brothers either… man, we’ve picked a few beauts in our time.

  • Comment 36, posted at 05.03.08 13:15:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • Knox… that’s the one. Came across with that big lock, who was also crap. Damn… can’t remember the names now.

    Him and Nico Wegner are the locks, anyway.

  • Comment 37, posted at 05.03.08 13:17:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • Nicolas Miranda, aah yes. He was still around for the last World Cup!

    Shame, he wasn’t that bad though, just not all that flash either. Did we have his boet as well?

  • Comment 38, posted at 05.03.08 13:17:11 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Nico Wegner, ugh. No wonder WP got rid of him…

  • Comment 39, posted at 05.03.08 13:17:50 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Loose forwards are McLeod-Henderson, Nico Breedt and Jaco Gouws. Very keen to add Watson and Solly, but both of them were unfortunately pretty good on occasion. Before they left, that is.

  • Comment 40, posted at 05.03.08 13:18:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • yeah… wasn’t his boet a flyhalf?

  • Comment 41, posted at 05.03.08 13:18:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • Nice Wegner was actually picked for the Boks ahead of Steve Atherton a couple of times… now tell me how that works, please?

  • Comment 42, posted at 05.03.08 13:19:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ja his boet was a flyhalf. Did he actually start a game for us?

    Brad McLeod-Henderson, ah yes, he was a legend at Hilton College. Together with Bob, big things were predicted, pity only Bob delivered.

    Have to add Shawn van Rensburg to that list of loose forwards (Clinton’s boet). kAK.

  • Comment 43, posted at 05.03.08 13:21:12 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • JvdW is a classic example of why some players will never come to Natal or make it as players in Natal if they did.

    Some players just aren’t cut out to make it in certain provinces.

    I wrote this piece before Skinstad came back to SA on why I felt he should be a Shark if he returned. I feel it is a valid argument for why some guys will NEVER feel comfortable/ make it if they come to Durban.

    We are not called the last outpost for nothing. It is a whole different lifestyle.

    Excuse the tagging below I am not going to bother to remove it.

    Why Bob Skinstad MUST be a Shark

    If Bobby Skinstad does return to South Africa, why will it only be successful at the Sharks?

    There is a rumour that Bobby Skinstad wants to pack his bags and come back home. Home in more ways than one, Skinstad is rumoured to be returning to join The Natal Sharks for the 2007 season.

    Robert Brian Skinstad, born 29 November 1997, is returning to where he spent his childhood and teenage years, Kwa-Zulu Natal. As a junior Skinstad attended Highbury Preparatory School in Hillcrest just Outside Durban. He finished his Higher schooling at Hilton College in the KZN Midlands. Both of these are private schools, private schools very seldom produce wall flowers, they produce people who have attitude and even some arrogance.

    I am not discussing PVT school education here just stating how society inevitably works.

    If Skinstad returns to South Africa it will have to be at either Western Province or The Sharks.

    Why not Western Province? He has been there and left them. In the period before his departure from South Africa there were rumours that Skinstad wanted to play for The Sharks and that they did not want him at the time. Whether these were true we will never know. I however suspect they were true and this will be a fulfilment of a schoolboy dream for Skinstad to play for his home Province.

    Put Luke Watson and Bobby Skinstad in the same team and they will tear each other apart. A pack can only have one Alpha male.

    Let’s call it the A-Factor as in Attitude. Skinstad has that A-Factor that will see him thrive within the setup at The Sharks. Currently Dick Muir, seems to leave almost all of the on-field decisions to his charges rather than coaching them into robots. Skinstad will feed off of this ability to be in charge of his own game and will soon be back to the Skinstad most of us loved as a Springbok.

    Skinstad has and attitude and this is a good thing not a bad thing. A player in this mold will not fit in at any of the upcountry teams in the Big 5. He will suffocate there and depending on his coaching staff will have his attitude coached out of him.

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  • Comment 44, posted at 05.03.08 13:22:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Did the “if you want to be a Bok you have to play for WP” rule still apply in 94?

    05.03.08 12:59:42 – KSA Shark ©

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    Nice Wegner was actually picked for the Boks ahead of Steve Atherton a couple of times… now tell me how that works, please?

    05.03.08 13:19:39 – robdylan

    ——————————————————————

    Answer your question :mrgreen: ?

  • Comment 45, posted at 05.03.08 13:22:15 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • :cool: cool it seems WP didn’t display the tagging.

  • Comment 46, posted at 05.03.08 13:23:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Quinny

    Answer is crystal clear now. :lol:

  • Comment 47, posted at 05.03.08 13:23:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • “In the period before his departure from South Africa there were rumours that Skinstad wanted to play for The Sharks and that they did not want him at the time.”

    Interestingly enough KSA, that’s not quite true, I know someone who was VERY HIGH UP in the NRU at that time end of ’99/beginning ’00), & negotiations were very far involved. The only snagging point, which ultimately caused the negotiations to fall trough was the captaincy. Skinstad wanted the captaincy of the Sharks to be written into his contract – no captaincy, no move to the Sharks (a bit DIVA-ish if you ask me). Problem was that Wayne Fyvie had been groomed for years to take over from Teichmann, & Sharks were reluctant to agree to Skinstad’s demands. Eventually it fell through.

  • Comment 48, posted at 05.03.08 13:26:35 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • yeah – didn’t think about that.

  • Comment 49, posted at 05.03.08 13:26:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • What is Bob doing now? Is he lliving in Durbs or has he gone back to the Cape?

  • Comment 50, posted at 05.03.08 13:27:31 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Poor bloody Fyvie. A real tragedy, that one

  • Comment 51, posted at 05.03.08 13:27:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Quinn – I know this is a bit before your time, but do you have any idea whatever happened to a guy called Shaun Platford?

  • Comment 52, posted at 05.03.08 13:28:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • Thanks for that Quinny, didn’t know that at the time of writing the piece.

  • Comment 53, posted at 05.03.08 13:28:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Tragedy?

    I rated Fyvie, but he fizzled away under the captaincy.
    His brother Kevin was highly rated at schools level too – he joined the inaugural SA Rugby Academy in the Boland, but never developed any further than a Boland u21 appearance.

  • Comment 54, posted at 05.03.08 13:30:00 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • There has been talk on and off about juan Smith coming to DBN.

    I see him as one of those players who just won’t manage to make it work in Durban, I had similar fears about Bakkies when there was talk of him joining us.

    I think i may have been wrong about bakkies at the time but stand by my feeling on Smith though.

  • Comment 55, posted at 05.03.08 13:30:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Shaun Platford, refresh my mind – what position, name sounds familiar?

  • Comment 56, posted at 05.03.08 13:31:15 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Ja Natal might be a bit TOO Engels for Smith…

  • Comment 57, posted at 05.03.08 13:31:55 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • lock?

  • Comment 58, posted at 05.03.08 13:33:09 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • “if you want to be a Bok you have to play for WP” ….quite ironically Luke Watson believe that when he left the Sharks….guess he has some egg on his face as a result of those thoughts.

  • Comment 59, posted at 05.03.08 13:34:35 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Rob, Google tells me that:

    1) Platford had a spell with Bedford in ’97/98
    2) went to work in the IT sector
    3) left IT in 2003 to be Director of the Sports Institude at Glenwood High School in Durban
    4) left that role to return to IT

    I also discovered to my horror that Mickey (Mouse) Arthur went to school at Westville Boys High :shock:

    It was with regret that Glenwood said farewell to Shaun Platford, Director of the Sports Institute. Shaun came to Glenwood in 2003 from the IT sector and his organizational talents have been instrumental in the efficient construction, planning and running of our Institute. Regrettably he has been lured back to the IT world. We wish him well in his future endeavours and thank him most sincerely for all of the work he has done while at Glenwood.

  • Comment 60, posted at 05.03.08 13:38:13 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • What is Bob doing now? Is he lliving in Durbs or has he gone back to the Cape?

    05.03.08 13:27:31 – Le Requinny

    Spending the money that the Sharks & SA Rugby waisted on him… :roll:

  • Comment 61, posted at 05.03.08 13:45:06 by Charlie Reply

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  • KSA Shark

    Joel Stransky in 1995 was already playing with US (i.e. Western Province) :lol:

  • Comment 62, posted at 05.03.08 13:46:09 by HO Reply

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  • no doubt, he certainly cashed-in last season…

  • Comment 63, posted at 05.03.08 13:46:37 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • You all know Joel moved to Kappstad for Ian McIntosh liked more Henry Honiball at flyhalf and Joel needed to play at first-class level to have chances to regain his Bokke place
    and the fairytale ended with Pienaar hailing the Webb Ellis Cup
    (but none will convince me that Pienaar was better than Tiaan Strauss) :shock:

  • Comment 64, posted at 05.03.08 13:47:49 by HO Reply

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  • HO

    :grin:

  • Comment 65, posted at 05.03.08 13:48:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Kappstad=Kaapstad sorry

  • Comment 66, posted at 05.03.08 13:48:27 by HO Reply

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  • Joel club in Cape Town was Villager FC
    Pity he did not play for US (UCT of course :roll: )

  • Comment 67, posted at 05.03.08 13:49:21 by HO Reply

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  • :roll:

  • Comment 68, posted at 05.03.08 13:49:46 by HO Reply

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  • Kappstad=Kaapstad sorry

    05.03.08 13:48:27 – HO Edit

    Fruedian slip there HO. :smile:

    Capstad is what the rule used to be. :wink:

  • Comment 69, posted at 05.03.08 13:59:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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