Clayton(PJLD)

Bok coach could walk out


Written by Clayton Saville (Clayton(PJLD))

Posted in :In the news on 12 Mar 2008 at 08:18

Cape Town – Springbok coach Peter de Villiers is ready to pack his bags and turn his back on South African rugby.

De Villiers has still not signed a contract with SA Rugby, according to a member of the SA Rugby Union’s presidents’ council.

De Villiers was appointed as national coach more than two months ago.

The contract should have been signed on Monday but his legal representatives confirmed on Tuesday that it had not been done. They referred enquiries to SA Rugby.

People close do De Villiers say he is extremely frustrated and may even abandon the coaching position.

SA Rugby and De Villiers came to an agreement only after four draft contracts had been submitted.

However, there is renewed uncertainty after a meeting of SA Rugby’s board of directors on Monday.

Jonathan Stones, managing director of SA Rugby, and SA Rugby Union president Oregan Hoskins did not respond to messages on Tuesday.

Koos Basson, Saru’s vice-president and a member of SA Rugby’s board, said, “De Villiers’s contract was approved, subject to certain conditions.”

He refused to say what the conditions were. “It won’t be fair to Peter,” he said.

The question of who will have the final say in team selections, as well as De Villiers’s salary, could be the cause of the problems.

Saru nominations

SA Rugby deputy president Mike Stofile said Basson was probably trying to ensure that the correct procedures were followed.

“Peter should not be worried. The matter will be sorted out,” Stofile added.

However, another presidents’ council member said he was disappointed because Basson was “playing with legal terms. The contract has not been finalised,” he added.

“Peter is tired of certain officials trying to push through their own agendas.”

Cedric Frolick, vice-chair of the parliamentary sports portfolio committee, said, “It seems some individuals are trying to frustrate Peter in his job. One would have expected SA Rugby to work actively to finalise the contract.

“This goes back to the situation at the time of his appointment. There are people who feel he is not the right person and they want him to fail.

“I cannot understand how South African rugby is run. It looks like a bunch of people who do not know what they are doing. This raises serious questions about how they manage the sport,” Frolick said.

The matter of De Villiers’s assistant coaches has also not been finalised. This process could also be delayed by uncertainty about the coach’s future.

* Saru officially confirmed on Tuesday that Hoskins and Stofile had been nominated for the position of president. The election will take place on March 27.

Johan Prinsloo, chief executive of Saru, said Stofile would also be, as deputy president, automatically be eligible for re-election to his current position.

Other nominations for the deputy presidency are Tobie Titus (Western Province), Jan Marais (Griffons), Boet Fick (Blue Bulls) and Sampie Pienaar and Mark Alexander, both of the Golden Lions.

Rautie Rautenbach (Falcons), Pat da Silva (Eastern Province), Marais, Fick, Pienaar and Alexander have all been nominated for the position of vice-president.

News 24 – Stephen Nell



50 Comments

  • to hell with them all :evil:

    looking forward to seeing Dick as Bok coach :smile:

  • Comment 1, posted at 12.03.08 08:33:35 by spykerbaard Reply
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  • No wonder PdV has been so quiet lately….. :roll:
    spyker…..leave Dick exacly where he is :eek:

  • Comment 2, posted at 12.03.08 08:37:38 by shark-tank Reply
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  • I would take this with a whole bucketload of salt. He is not on the verge of walking away. He would never walk away from a chance to coach the Boks.

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.03.08 08:40:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • “. One would have expected SA Rugby to work actively to finalise the contract.”
    When have they worked actively to do anything?

    ““I cannot understand how South African rugby is run. It looks like a bunch of people who do not know what they are doing. This raises serious questions about how they manage the sport,” Frolick said.”

    Took you long enough to notice.

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.03.08 08:40:48 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Hey didnt Jake say this as his main problem he walked out too?

    People that knows nothing of rugby trying to control him and how he does things?

    Should have listened Peter.

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.03.08 08:45:10 by MorneN Reply
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  • PJLD… perhaps they’re all just making a bit of noise now to get Stofile and co into power?

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.03.08 08:58:30 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Man I really don’t want Dick in with this mob yet as an assistant…

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.03.08 08:59:38 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • To be honest Rob you shouldn’t have published this article…its De Villiers and his puppet-master Oberholzer using the media to help negotiate their contract.

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.03.08 09:00:35 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Agree, DP. I guide and nudge, but don’t dictate, though ;)

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.03.08 09:08:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • Dive Pass

    It might just blow up in their faces if that’s the case

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.03.08 09:08:51 by spykerbaard Reply

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  • okes – I’m out of here for a bit. Catch yuo all again later

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.03.08 09:09:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • Shark tank

    Dick has now twice stated clearly that he wont be back to coach the Sharks s14 squad next year. .. he wants the ass.coach job with the Boks, so lets hope he gets it

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.03.08 09:15:53 by spykerbaard Reply

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  • Nah, I dont agree – whether or not their are agendas at work, the fast that a National coach doesnt have his contract sorted several months into his tenure is ridiculous – this aint political, its administrative, and like him or not, PDV deserves better.

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.03.08 09:15:54 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Oberholzer is using the media and delaying tactics to negotiate the best possible contract for PDV….this for once is not SA Rugby’s poor administration. It take 2 to make a contract and if PDV won’t sign that SARugby are offering him they can’t hold a gun to his head and make him sign.

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.03.08 09:21:48 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • To be honest Rob you shouldn’t have published this article…its De Villiers and his puppet-master Oberholzer using the media to help negotiate their contract.

    12.03.08 09:00:35 – Dive Pass

    Do not agree, nothing in the report quoted as exact words from PDV or Oberholzer… :roll:

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.03.08 09:26:14 by Charlie Reply

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  • DP,

    So the duo are not using the media at all… :shock:

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.03.08 09:27:38 by Charlie Reply

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  • 12.03.08 09:27:38 – Charlie

    Not following you Charlie…

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.03.08 09:30:18 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • DP, the duty to confirm and conclude an employment contract lies with an employer.

    If SA Rugby were not happy with what PDV was asking, they were free to not select him. However they have selected him, and I am sure that if you impute this situation to your own affairs, you will agree that its highly unfair to an employee to have him employed while his contract is not settled.

    PDV should consider approaching the CCMA.

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.03.08 09:34:43 by Big Fish Reply
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  • DP,

    As stated in the report people near them are making the allegations of the duo not being happy with SARU, but you say that PDV & Oberholzer are using the media to do it… :roll:

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.03.08 09:35:05 by Charlie Reply

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  • “As stated in the report people near them…” as in Oberholzer’s good buddy Mr Keohane, etc? ….Yeah right they didn’t want to use the media.

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.03.08 09:37:17 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • What has been happening since the announcement that he was appointed? Is it correct to assume then that he has not been paid yet? If he has been paid, that would also pose a further problem, for both parties…

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.03.08 09:40:59 by shark-tank Reply

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  • :roll: :roll: :roll:

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.03.08 09:43:47 by Charlie Reply

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  • “I cannot understand how South African rugby is run. It looks like a bunch of people who do not know what they are doing. This raises serious questions about how they manage the sport,” Frolick said.

    Rich, very rich coming from the parliamentary sports portfolio committee, pot > kettle > black, even if it is true.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.03.08 09:51:20 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • SARU has a reputation for being incompetent.

    It doesn’t surprise me that PDV is being treated in this way.

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.03.08 09:53:11 by wpw Reply
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  • On Keo they mention that Jonty Goslett is PdeV’s agent, what happened to Oberholzer?

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.03.08 09:55:23 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • This explains his sudden silence and grounding. Not attending s14 matches and being ‘seen’ in public :?:

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.03.08 09:55:30 by shark-tank Reply

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  • HEY PEEPS!!!!!

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.03.08 10:53:13 by xtal Reply

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  • Hey Xtal! :shock:

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.03.08 10:58:49 by wpw Reply
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  • how [email protected] wpw

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.03.08 11:03:34 by xtal Reply

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  • Xtal!!!

    How are you doing?

    Thats a sexy guy with you in that pic. :wink:

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.03.08 11:05:53 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Ola BG, he is sexy hey:) im good thanks! u?

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.03.08 11:07:09 by xtal Reply

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  • Hallo xtal,

    That dude on the your pic’ looks fimiliar… :twisted:

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.03.08 11:07:33 by Charlie Reply

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  • Thought so… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.03.08 11:08:14 by Charlie Reply

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  • I’m well thanks…

    Who’s that urrrgly dude next to you??? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 12.03.08 11:13:07 by wpw Reply
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  • :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 35, posted at 12.03.08 11:14:35 by xtal Reply

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  • he begged me to take a pic with him :wink:

  • Comment 36, posted at 12.03.08 11:15:13 by xtal Reply

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  • :lol:

    Not too bad. Its always good to see you around – even though you are a Bulls supporter. I trust you are progressing up the ladder at dizzying speeds?

    Hey Charlie, I think he is a celebrity – certainly has the looks hey? :grin:

    wpw, your taste in men is as bad as your taste in rugby teams. :twisted:

  • Comment 37, posted at 12.03.08 11:17:00 by Big Fish Reply
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  • What are to be going on here?

  • Comment 38, posted at 12.03.08 11:19:59 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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    he begged me to take a pic with him :wink:
    12.03.08 11:15:13 – xtal

    I can see why he had to beg you… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 39, posted at 12.03.08 11:22:59 by wpw Reply
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    wpw, your taste in men is as bad as your taste in rugby teams. :twisted:
    12.03.08 11:17:00 – Big Fish

    I’ll take that as a compliment.

  • Comment 40, posted at 12.03.08 11:24:24 by wpw Reply
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  • Hey PJLD – nothing much, really. :razz:

    wpw – Snappy comeback. :roll:

  • Comment 41, posted at 12.03.08 11:28:28 by Big Fish Reply
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  • when are we hooking up? we were hoping to meet up with you in strand sometime ago but you were in town :smile:

  • Comment 42, posted at 12.03.08 11:37:32 by xtal Reply

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  • @ BF… :lol: i said BG earkier.. what a tart!

  • Comment 43, posted at 12.03.08 11:39:42 by xtal Reply

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  • earkier=earlier

  • Comment 44, posted at 12.03.08 11:40:11 by xtal Reply

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  • Sorry Xtal – I thought you were describing me. :wink:

    Will be nice to hook up – cant make it this weekend, but the weekend after would be good.

    You and the laaitie could drop in for lunch or something.

  • Comment 45, posted at 12.03.08 11:43:12 by Big Fish Reply
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  • the laaitie? :shock:

  • Comment 46, posted at 12.03.08 11:45:16 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Okay lets just get one thing straight here – de Villiers is not about to walk anywhere, not to mention walking away from coaching the world champs.

    He’s on a good wicket and didnt really deserve to get the job if truth be told.

    So there is absolutely no chance of him walking away – what’s he going to do if he walks away? Who’ll give him a job? Doint be silly, he’ll hang onto that job tighter than Mugabe hangs onto power.

  • Comment 47, posted at 12.03.08 11:49:15 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • 12.03.08 11:45:16 – provincejoulekkading

    I knew that would get your attention. :cool:

  • Comment 48, posted at 12.03.08 11:49:58 by Big Fish Reply
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  • I agree Vinnie.

    My issue is purely with the fact that irrespective of the merits of his selection or the personalities involved, he has a right to have a finalised employment contract by now.

  • Comment 49, posted at 12.03.08 11:54:30 by Big Fish Reply
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  • What are to be going on here?

    12.03.08 11:19:59 – provincejoulekkading Edit

    MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY when i saw that pic. :smile:

  • Comment 50, posted at 12.03.08 19:14:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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