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Varsity Cup Final


Written by Clayton Saville (Clayton(PJLD))

Posted in :In the news on 7 Apr 2008 at 11:10

The universities of Cape Town (Ikeys) and Stellenbosch (Maties) will resume their intense rivalry, which has been going for almost a century, when they meet in the FNB Varsity Cup Final at the Danie Craven Stadium in Stellenbosch on Monday.

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The final outcome will determine not only the first winners of the inaugural Varsity Cup, but also the bragging rights in the Western Province, where the two southern universities are based.

The rivalry is as intense as ever since the first intervarsity between the traditional arch-rivals was played in 1911, when teams were cheered on by thousands of singing students who were egged on by gesturing cheerleaders wearing tailcoats.

The Ikeys have surprised friend and foe alike in reaching the Final, more so after they staged spirited fightbacks to secure victory on three occasions.

At the outset, the Ikeys were seeded seventh.

The most recent of their noteworthy fightbacks was in the semifinal round and will no doubt still be fresh in the mind of the Maties, when they plot their strategy for the Final.

The Ikeys literally came back from the dead after they trailed 0-17 and later 10-31 against the Pukke (Potchefstroom University) to score 22 unanswered points in the final 14 minutes to emerge 32-31 semifinal victors last Monday.

And if that’s not enough to alert the Maties of the Ikeys’ magnificent fightback capability, the records will show that they lost to the Ikeys (38-32) in the league phase of the competition, after they enjoyed a 20-14 halftime lead over the recent Easter weekend.

On their way to the Final, the Ikeys have chalked up some remarkable victories and it remains to seen whether these achievements may have drained their powers of recovery ahead of Monday’s clash.

The morale in the Maties’ camp would have been significantly boosted by the fact that they will enjoy home ground advantage.

Probable squads:

Ikeys: Herbert Mayosi, JP Koster, Dylan Rogers, Michael Ledwidge, Martin Muller, Enoch Panya, Mzoi Simani, Jonathan Gagiano, Danie van der Merwe, Matthew Rosslee, Marcello Sampson, Pieter Engelbrecht, James Martin, Matthew Turner, Peter Haw, Mark Goosen, Wesley Chetty, Dane Galley, Kyle Brown, Kyle Wickins, Tim Whitehead, Sean van Tonder.

Maties: Therlow Pietersen, Heno Stoffberg, Jean Stemmet, Sarel Potgieter, Lewellyn Winckler, Richardo Croy, Wilhelm Koch, Bennie Booysen, Zandre Jordaan, Wesley Wilkens, Jaco Nepgen, Erich Laubscher, Jacobi Adriaanse, Matthew Dobson, Johan Roets, Lisle Clark, Andrew Crausaz, JC Kritzinger, Albert Fullard, De Kock Steenkamp, Lucian Cloete and Morné Jooste.

Date: Monday, 7 April
Venue: Danie Craven Stadium, Stellenbosch
Kick-off: 18.45 (16.45 GMT)
Referee: Lourens van der Merwe
Touch judges: François Veldsman, Jason Jaftha
Television match official: Shaun Veldsman
Assessor: André Watson



56 Comments

  • PJLD thanks for posting this one. According to the Burger the Ikeys will go with 20 buses full of supporters to Stellenbosch. Look like a nice day and a good game awaits.

    Apart from wanting a Rom, rom win for Maties I am quite interest to see the way the white card will go in this game. Watson will have to make some recommendation to the IRB about this and myself think anything at this stage to give us better refs can only be a good one.

    (I had a lot of Kiwi critics last week about this on TSF and a lot of silense after the weekend specially from the Canes lot) :roll:

    The teams from die Burger

    Die spanne is:

    Maties: Therlow Pietersen, Henoe Stoffberg, Jean Stemmet, Sarel Potgieter, Lewellyn Winckler, Coenie van wyk, Wilhelm Koch, Bennie Booysen (k), Jonathan Adendorf, Zandré Jordaan, Jaco Nepgen, Erich Laubscher, Jacobi Adriaanse, Lisle Clark, Johan Roets. PLAASVERVANGERS: Matthew Dobson, Andrew Crausaz, De Kock Steenkamp, Albert Fullard, Prieur de Jager, Lucian Cloete, Jowayne van Wyk.

    Ikeys: Robert Hopwood, Marcello Sampson, Tim Whitehead, Pieter Engelbrecht, Matthew Turner, Matthew Rosslee, Danie van der Merwe, Jonathan Gagiano (k), Mzoi Simani, Enoch Panya, Martin Muller, Michael Ledwidge, Dylan Rogers, JP Koster, Herbert Mayosi. PLAASVERVANGERS: Mark Goosen, Wesley Chetty, Dane Galley, Kyle Brown, Kyle Wickins, Peter Haw, Sean van Tonder.

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.04.08 11:52:00 by PaarlBok Reply
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  • JOHAN ROETS :shock:

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.04.08 11:59:32 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • That Herbert Mayosi dude is impressive

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.04.08 12:00:46 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Just wonder how many of these kids are future Sharks… :razz:

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.04.08 12:03:57 by blackshark Reply

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  • Nah Rob dont want our talent in Sharks jerseys. :wink: In the Matie lot from Paarl Jean Stemmet, Coenie van wyk, Wilhelm Koch, Bennie , Jacobi Adriaanse, , De Kock Steenkamp, Albert Fullard.

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.04.08 12:08:04 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • The talent will find its way home PB… :wink:

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.04.08 12:15:10 by blackshark Reply

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  • 07.04.08 12:15:10 – blackshark

    Just like Peter Grant hey??? (NOT) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.04.08 12:54:35 by wpw Reply
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  • 07.04.08 12:54:35 – wpw

    :razz:

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.04.08 13:06:11 by blackshark Reply

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  • is this live on SuperSport?

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.04.08 14:26:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • Yezzir

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.04.08 14:27:18 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • 18:30 – 20:45 Rugby FNB Varsity Cup: Final, UCT v Maties Live

    SS1

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.04.08 14:34:52 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • wonder if KuduClub will have it. Can’t believe the CNUTS didn’t show teh Cheetahs/Reds game live

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.04.08 14:45:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • cnuts?

    Cashews!

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.04.08 14:49:45 by Dawn Reply

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  • cashews?

    bless u!

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.04.08 15:04:34 by Ghost10 Reply

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  • :mrgreen: :lol:
    You eat blades for breakfast today dude?

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.04.08 15:09:25 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • LOL, sorry… in a funny kinda mood today. Lots of energy so I’m looking forward to gym tonight

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.04.08 15:13:45 by Ghost10 Reply

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  • who, me?

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.04.08 15:13:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • What a lekka game, specially for the Matie supporters. :wink: Think that white card was a nice one, denying the Maties a try and a punch in the first half.

    Anyway the game remind me to our local Paarl interschools, 20,000 spectators and high pressure and intensity make players drop ball and making mistakes they never would in a normal game.

    Good to see the likes of Serfie & Skinstad and this compo is here to stay.

    Rom, rom, rom,…….

    sorry Ikeys maybe next year! :grin:

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.04.08 08:19:20 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • PB – explain this white card story, please? First I’ve heard of it

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.04.08 08:53:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • Score?

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.04.08 09:00:07 by blackshark Reply

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  • The white card is a captain’s call where the cap can refer perceived infringements to the TMO. Two referrals allowed per team.

    It wastes a HELL of a lot of time.

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.04.08 09:20:21 by Dawn Reply

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  • Was tried out for the first time last night and had the natives very restless.

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.04.08 09:21:43 by Dawn Reply

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  • Missed the game,thanks Eskom.

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.04.08 09:28:46 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Our lights came on just in time for two tries and one captain’s call.

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.04.08 09:30:39 by Dawn Reply

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  • Does anyone care to give us a report on this…or even the score?

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.04.08 09:30:57 by blackshark Reply

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  • I gather the Maties won

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.04.08 09:35:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • Maties 16 – 10.

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.04.08 09:36:53 by Dawn Reply

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  • thanks dawn

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.04.08 09:38:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • Maties 16 – 10…

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.04.08 09:39:00 by Dawn Reply

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  • Oops sorry for duplicate.

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.04.08 09:39:26 by Dawn Reply

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  • Thanks again dawn… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.04.08 09:42:54 by blackshark Reply

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  • I can’t believe UCT lost.

    All they had to do was kick the ball out in the last minute after getting a scrum in their own 22.

    Their 8th man decided to run the ball up (from the scrum), lost possession in the tackle and Maties swung the ball wide and scored.

    I couldn’t believe it!

    :shock:

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.04.08 09:54:03 by wpw Reply
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  • Sounds like some of those UCT players would fit in well in Durban :oops:

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.04.08 09:54:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • This white card thing appears to be causing a stir.

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.04.08 09:56:10 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • 08.04.08 09:54:48 – robdylan
    :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.04.08 09:56:40 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Watching SuperRugby last night – thought the guy who mentioned the “white”card had too much brannas already! :lol: :lol: You learn a little everyday… :wink:

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.04.08 09:58:47 by Ice Reply
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  • it’s a good idea in principle. I wonder if you can use it after the ref has blown the final whistle? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.04.08 10:03:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • 08.04.08 10:03:23 – robdylan

    :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.04.08 10:08:37 by blackshark Reply

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  • seriously, though… this has the potential to turn an 80 minute game into a 3 hour marathon. The real solution is to fix the refs…

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.04.08 10:16:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • …and off course…fix the Bulls players…(present and future) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.04.08 10:19:33 by blackshark Reply

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  • Sorry for returning now. Personally I think the white card is a goodie. Like Watson stated we, the supporter, the player and ref want the right desition. Lat night a Matie certain try under the normal situation was cancel because of this because of off side players from Joe Pietersen kick. I am not sure but the Ikey caotain hakkel and the ref did not know at first what he wants. The capt, Gagiano thought the Matie 9 was off side and on replay the Matie players was off side and the TMO brought it to the ref attention. Ikeys also use the first one for a fist or interferense. The Matie captain looked a bit irratating about all of this but like Watson said, the right desition was taken.

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.04.08 10:20:03 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • Rob the card can only be use from one start example scrum/lineout/kick off to a next stop and before the start of the new play.

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.04.08 10:22:52 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • I still think the TMO should be used for disputed tries…everything else can wait till after the game… :twisted:

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.04.08 10:27:57 by blackshark Reply

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  • had Muller had one of these, we could have had Jaco Engels sent off in the Bulls game, then we would have scored 5 tries in the last ten minutes ;)

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.04.08 10:35:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • Myself think this is a great one. We see to many wrong calls being made and this will make the refs more warry to make the right ones. We do get to many schoolmaster refs that dont even know the rules like the corner flag one and Welsch not even know the off side one from a charge down kick. It will also stop the thuggish play from players. One maon from a oppo playuer for a white and he’ll see a red card.

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.04.08 10:36:22 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • but again, the real solution is improving the quality of the refs… let the refs ref and the players play, is what I say

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.04.08 10:45:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • So much emphasis on colour :mrgreen:

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.04.08 10:48:18 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • yeah… the “white card” is clearly a rear-guard action from the discredited fascist Apartheid regime to regain control of rugby ;)

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.04.08 10:50:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Yeah…I demand a black card”… :mad:

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.04.08 10:53:53 by blackshark Reply

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  • I thought the white card is easier. The ref can always use a sakdoek in stead. :wink:

    I know you guys wont like this but surely we have to get the right calls.

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.04.08 10:57:40 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • Yep…we want the right calls PB…especially if they will benefit our team…so maybe we should get rid of the refs and let the white card do the job… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.04.08 11:05:50 by blackshark Reply

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  • problem is, there is too much grey in the laws to allow refs to stand a hope in hell of getting the “right” calls… everything is subjective and the best refs have such a good feel for the game that they manage to apply that subjectivity in such a way that neither side is prejudiced.

    If you try to blow a rugby game completely “by the book” with no room for discretion, you end up with a Willie Roos or Paul Marks style balls up.

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.04.08 11:09:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • BS thats where you got it wrong. I mean the All Blacks lose in the quoters because of a forward pass. Players future depends on this and the refs just keep on going the same old same. That gap have to be close and for me the standard of reffing in this year S14 is shocking. Anything that can make it better have to be a step in the right direction.

    Nothing to do what is benefitting my team or not, its all about the right call.

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.04.08 11:12:32 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • PaarlBok

    Dit vat te veel tyd.

    You spend the time waiting and waiting and waiting. That’s besides waiting for the TMO’s, injury time out, ref lecture time out … how much rugby will actually be played???

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.04.08 11:12:39 by Dawn Reply

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  • Thats why they allows only one per team per half. If you look at the close games in S14 everything happen in the last 10 minutes. Thats the best time to use your one.

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.04.08 11:21:49 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • I mean the All Blacks lose in the quoters because of a forward pass.

    08.04.08 11:12:32 – PaarlBok

    Looked straight to me… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.04.08 11:39:30 by blackshark Reply

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