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All eyes on the big derby


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Original Content, Stormers, Super 14 on 8 Apr 2008 at 09:08

The Stormers look set to bolster their pack for the crunch derby match against the Cheetahs at Newlands this weekend.

The Bloemfontein side pose a formidable threat up-front and the indications are that Stormers coach Rassie Erasmus will bring back former Free Stater Tiaan Liebenberg at hooker in place of the more mobile Schalk Brits. Lock Adriaan Fondse is likely to come back into contention as well, after missing the good victory over the Force in Perth.

Wing Tonderai Chavanga took a knock at training, but should be fit to start, although the news is less good for replacement scrumhalf Conrad Hoffman, who is out. Fortunately, Springbok Bolla Conradie is fit to take Hoffman’s place on the bench. The backline will in all likelihood be unchanged, with Tony Brown again on the bench as Peter Grant continues his run at flyhalf.

The Stormers are now well placed to challenge for a semi-final spot, having amassed an unprecedented 16 log pints on their 4-match tour overseas. They will need to overturn their home form, though, to take advantage of a string of matches at Newlands that are all must-wins. The Stormers have, incredibly, lost more matches at Newlands than they have won over the lifetime of Super Rugby, making their work all the more daunting.

The Cheetahs, meanwhile, have reacted to yet further rumours of a mass player exodus at the end of their campaign. Union President Harold Verster has assured fans the union will do whatever it can to maintain its player base, although he concedes that it’s unlikely that CJ van der Linde will stick around. The burly prop is highly in demand at the Sharks (who clearly want to have all three Bok tightheads on their books) and is understood to be looking at a number of good offers from abroad as well.

Other players looking certain to leave at this stage are locks Rory Duncan and Darron Nell. To add a little extra spice to the derby, former Cheetahs coach Erasmus is said to be hot on the heels of a number of the Cheetahs’ star forwards.



48 Comments

  • why would the sharks want to buy cj? i don’t get it, makes me think that either bj or jannie might be leaving after this season. would make no sense to buy cj unless that were the case. i mean 3 tightheads along with pat cilliers coming through?

    should be looking for some locks and outside backs instead if you ask me.

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.04.08 10:07:15 by knersboy Reply
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  • Ja… we could use Duncan, that’s for sure. I’m not really a huge Darron Nell fan, though.

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.04.08 10:13:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • Good thing that this comes after the Cheetahs won their game against the Reds and the Stormers won their bye against the Saders… :mrgreen:

    This should be interesting…but the home team should be looking for a bonus point here.

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.04.08 10:16:34 by blackshark Reply

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  • This will be huge one for the Stormers. They need to take it game by game and forget about all this semi stories. leave that to the press and Shark supporters. :wink:

    Rassie wont underestimate the BlikOre and we just have to pack Newlands on saturday.

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.04.08 10:26:46 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • derbies tend to upset the odds, hey… Cheetahs forwards could give the Province pack nightmares all day… then again, if they spill ball and let Tondi and co run at them, with their dodgy defensive record, the Stormers could score 50.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.04.08 10:27:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • CJ would not be a bad bet at loosehead prop for the Stormers and WP.

    I don’t rate our current loosehead props at all.

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.04.08 10:30:56 by wpw Reply
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  • leave that to the press and Shark supporters.

    08.04.08 10:26:46 – PaarlBok

    Meaning…leave that to people who are in the top 2. :wink:

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.04.08 10:31:41 by blackshark Reply

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  • PB is just being a typical Province supporter ;) They win one or two games, then suddenly all the arrogance comes right back and we must just forget that they’ve been utter shite for the past 5 seasons.

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.04.08 10:33:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • If this game is a close affair like the Sharks vs Lions game then i think we are in for a tough time.

    I am sure we can take them upfront. I hope we blow them away in the first half with some good running rugby.

    GO STORMERS!!!

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.04.08 10:33:56 by wpw Reply
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  • Eish Rob.

    Not all WP supporters are like that… :cry:

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.04.08 10:36:38 by wpw Reply
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  • Come on Rob that was a bit rough on me. I am not your Mountain goat Keo type. :shock:
    BlackShark gave me the right response and I said game by game.

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.04.08 10:39:48 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • Sorry, PB… still stung about your comment yesterday about the Sharks having kak structures, which I think is utter bollocks. We got our house in order years ago with the establishment of the Academy, getting Straueli in to get procurement sorted out, etc, etc. We have never had the luxury of producing talent the way WP does, but we do pretty well with what we have and the young talent we can procure from other provinces.

    At least we don’t lose the cream of our youngsters to other unions.

    The fact that the Cheetahs now have an Academy also does nothing to undermine the Sharks. There is plenty of talent at age group level in SA and it doesn’t all come from the Free State. Their problem is money, anyway, so merely having an Academy of sorts doesn’t mean they’re suddenly going to be as competitive in the market as the really big teams are.

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.04.08 10:43:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • Doesnt mean to upset you there. :roll: I love watching schoolboy, U21s and Vodacom rugby and keep my ears/eyes close them and is sorry if I have the wrong opinion.

    In my opinion academies wont be enough , now that every province have their own. The Sharks and Bulls had a kick start but getting use to see the likes of WP and OVS hauls you in.

    Look I like every SA province and dont have oogklappe when it comes to local talent but surely we as Boland and WP supporters waited only for our top lot to join the table.

    It make me sick to see the likes of Russel, Cobus Visagie and specially de Kock playing like kings for Sarries in stead of the Stormers.

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.04.08 10:52:49 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • I actually dont mind Sharks supporters.

    As long as they make finals and don’t win any, i am happy. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.04.08 10:55:49 by wpw Reply
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  • PB loves watching schoolboys!!! :roll:

    hehehe

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.04.08 10:58:21 by wpw Reply
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  • The world of modern sports PB…but you’ll see a lot of quality players (black and white) coming from Sharksworld in the next couple of years…hope that will make you feel better…

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.04.08 11:00:48 by blackshark Reply

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  • Sharks had a bit of a cleanout 18 months ago, where a lot of “fringe players” that were enjoying fat salary cheques were shown the door (I can only wonder why Kees Lensing wasn’t one of them). Since those guys left, the Wildebeest just haven’t been competitive. But it’s the price you pay, I think.

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.04.08 11:04:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • Rob now compare that with WP. A lot of talented youngsters now knocking on the CC door. Currently WP have the best structures and will have to many players on their books. There is always a stream of young talent from this part and thats the good work Nick Mallet leave WP. That academy to take them to professional players he put up a year ago.

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.04.08 11:19:09 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • Robd

    You guys should never have let Solly T go… :roll:

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.04.08 11:21:53 by wpw Reply
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  • WP have always had too many players. That’s why you have talented WP schoolboys turning out for other provinces all over the country. It’s what you do with that youth that defines the success of the union and, quite frankly, WP have done an appalling job of that. The “structures” at senior level are still a mess… the only difference is that you now have a decent coach to paper over some of the cracks. The same bunch of inept administrators continue to run the show.

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.04.08 11:28:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • wes – we’ll get him back, mark my words ;) Him and his maatjie Jaco Gouws, who I understand is now playing club rugby somewhere in the Cape.

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.04.08 11:29:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • Solly??? :???: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: The man who gets paid a fat salary for NOT pitching for practise ?? Good riddance!! :grin:

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.04.08 11:29:35 by Ice Reply
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  • Rob I wont disagree on the inept administrators, but you get those everywhere. Don tell me the Sharks don have them. :roll:

    WP’s academy is now in its second year running, Zondagh has reopen his on Riebeek Wes, that gives you 75 players from schoolboy to youth teams level to pick from. We dont had this in the past and you know the results in 2007 compare to the past. WP lost them in the past but will kep the best lot and the same will happen in Cheetah land.

    Once Newlands get packed like this year due to a good coach they will have more money to keep the good ones.

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.04.08 11:33:33 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • 08.04.08 11:21:53 – wpw
    Why?

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.04.08 11:33:43 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Aah, i see my visvang powers hasn’t left me… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.04.08 11:40:27 by wpw Reply
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  • well, good on them, PB. It only took them 5 years to catch up to what teh Sharks and the Bulls have been doing.

    I still maintain that the Sharks are the only union that actually has a plan in place to bring those youngsters through the ranks into the senior team, though. It doesn’t help the Bulls having so many youngsters if none of them ever get into the team.

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.04.08 11:55:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • Should be a great battle between the lossies

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.04.08 13:28:32 by Sauce Reply
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  • Ja those lossies can really brawl lekker, esp on a Saturday night when they dronk!

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.04.08 13:38:14 by Dawn Reply

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  • Sauce

    You mean ‘loosies’ :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.04.08 13:43:20 by wpw Reply
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  • Nah. He mean the “lossies”!

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.04.08 13:53:21 by Dawn Reply

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  • Still on derbies…

    English derby in the Champions league tonight…
    Go LIVERPOOL – YNWA!!!!

    Ok…now that I’ve got that out of my chest…I feel so much better :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.04.08 14:04:31 by blackshark Reply

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  • blackshark

    Please drop me a mail… i never knew you are a fellow Liverpool supporter!!!

    Come on you MIGHTY Reds!!!

    wesley at redwooddesign dot co dot za

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.04.08 14:16:39 by wpw Reply
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  • Will do wes…

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.04.08 14:23:15 by blackshark Reply

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  • Oh gawd, another pool supporter,this is getting out of hand now.

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.04.08 14:23:39 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • And you are?

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.04.08 14:28:03 by blackshark Reply

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  • Ajax Cape Town :mrgreen:

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.04.08 14:34:10 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • Arsenal vs Liverpool

    Two kak teams playing each other …. AGAIN.

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.04.08 14:45:41 by Dawn Reply

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  • Who do you support Dawn???

    Let me guess: Wigan? :mrgreen:

    Leeds Utd

    bwahahahaha

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.04.08 14:52:38 by wpw Reply
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  • Arsenal actually.

    But I know when my team is kuk.

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.04.08 14:57:19 by Dawn Reply

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  • They are not that bad Dawn.

    They might even beat us tonight. :roll:

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.04.08 14:59:58 by wpw Reply
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  • :shock: What has Arsenal done?

    PJLD – good for you…

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.04.08 15:01:00 by blackshark Reply

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  • May i take this time to sing:
    Glory glory Man United , glory glory Man United :grin:

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.04.08 15:08:06 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • What HASN’T Arsenal done …

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.04.08 15:12:01 by Dawn Reply

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  • Arsenal hasn’t won the Champions League yet (European Cup)

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.04.08 15:13:08 by wpw Reply
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  • Us Gunners are not happy.

    Disgruntled we are.

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.04.08 15:19:21 by Dawn Reply

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  • You lot have spoiled the Stormers thread with this poofball posts. :roll:

    Only joking, any team that beats Man United I’ll support. :grin:

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.04.08 15:24:10 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • 08.04.08 15:24:10 – PaarlBok
    Not many choices then :wink:

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.04.08 15:27:19 by provincejoulekkading Reply
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  • And the lossies are still brawling.

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.04.08 15:27:49 by Dawn Reply

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