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GREAT news for the Sharks


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Sharks, Super 14 on 15 Apr 2008 at 11:22

This morning Johann Muller walked into the Sharks’ hotel foyer with the broadest of grins after having been passed fit to play against the Brumbies by an ear, nose and throat specialist.

Mike Greenaway writes in the Daily News that Muller has a burst ear drum but, miraculously to the layman, he will be able to captain the team in Canberra on Saturday, eight days after sustaining a heavy blow to the ear against the Highlanders.

Flanker Keegan Daniel was the other casualty from the Dunedin match and he will test out his lower back injury at training this  Tuesday afternoon.

The other injury worry is tighthead prop Jannie du Plessis, who is down to start against the Brumbies as per his usual rotation with Brendan Botha.

Du Plessis strained a thigh muscle during Monday’s fitness session, but if he cannot play there is no major issue, Botha will just lose out on his break.

In an interesting unenforced change, Rory Kockott is set to start at scrumhalf ahead of Rugby World Cup Springbok Ruan Pienaar.

The latter has had a quiet start to the season and he was not helped by the shoulder injury in the third round that led to him missing two matches.

And the effervescent Kockott took his chance. He ensured the Sharks advanced thanks to his explosive breaks around the fringes of the rucks and mauls, and this restricted Pienaar to the bench for two games when he recovered.

And, for this particular game against the energetic Brumbies, Kockott is perhaps better suited than Pienaar.

In an expected change, JP Pietersen will reclaim his place on the left wing from Waylon Murray after having been given a wake-up call by being dropped out of the match 22 for the Highlanders game.

In Canberra, the Brumbies were boosted by the apparent full recovery of captain Stirling Mortlock after his head collided with the knee of a Blues hooker Keven Mealamu on Saturday, causing him to leave the field.

“Stirling has pulled up fine to day,” Fisher told reporters.

“There are no ill effects. He didn’t even take a headache pill.”

The Sharks are preparing themselves for a massive effort on defence as well as on attack after having analysed the Brumbies’ last two games.

“Their past two opponents, the Chiefs and the Blues, had to make over 400 tackles between them,” assistant coach John Plumtree said.

“The Brumbies are a very patient side and extremely good at recycling the ball through phase after phase as they probe for a weakness in your defence. The key, of course, is not to give them the ball in the first place, and that is obviously a focus for us.”

On attack, the Sharks believe they have turned the corner after a positive performance in Dunedin.

“We notice that back home some folk are not too enthusiastic about the way we have been playing, but we were pleased with our game against the Highlanders,” Plumtree said.

“A lot of the stuff we have been working on in training came through and we are determined to build on it.”



174 Comments

  • I suppose you could say Muller was grining from ear to ear. :wink:

    :oops:

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.04.08 11:23:21 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply
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  • Bloody hell. This is awesome news.

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.04.08 11:24:17 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • yap, really good news. still prefer ruan to rory, thought ruan had a good game on sat.

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.04.08 11:26:01 by knersboy Reply

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  • KSA…like this :grin:

    Kockott to start? JP coming back ? Do I hear a frans at 12? :lol:

    The ref will have to remember to shout to the good ear…

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.04.08 11:27:42 by blackshark (JAWS) Reply

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  • What was that Johan?

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.04.08 11:29:15 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • I beg yours?

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.04.08 11:29:48 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Maybe the doc told JM that he can’t play, but Johann heard something different… ;)

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.04.08 11:37:17 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Great news about JM. And even greater news that Rory is starting, suddenly my day looks a bit better.

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.04.08 12:09:26 by Nita Reply

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  • surely visiting Sharksworld is bound to make any day better, Nita? ;)

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.04.08 12:21:33 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Visiting Sharksworld and good news about our guys always helps… :smile:

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.04.08 12:25:55 by Nita Reply

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  • So we can expect some mix-ups with the lineout calls then this weekend :wink:

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.04.08 12:48:04 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Here’s my gripe. It just makes no sense that we bring a guy over from France for a mega sum, we then spin a huge PR campaign around him, introduce him to a new set of laws and then chop and change him for an out-of-form player so that he can’t possibly get to grips with the Super 14.
    Where’s the logic in that???

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.04.08 12:48:13 by CapeShark Reply
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  • I want Fred to rock this weekend. Viva la france

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.04.08 12:53:07 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Did you hear him shouting “Allez! Allez” last weekend while the Sharks forwards were on the maul?

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.04.08 13:15:14 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • So we can expect some mix-ups with the lineout calls then this weekend

    Comment 11 of 14, posted at 15.04.08 12:48:04 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!)

    :mrgreen: Nope!They’ll be done in sign language…baseball style…will confuse the hell outta the Brumbies (way more than the Afrikaans calls)…

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.04.08 13:21:00 by blackshark (JAWS) Reply

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  • Did any of you notice the cover of the latest Sports Illustrated Magazine?

    Frans Steyn is on the cover and he reckons he would like to play flyhalf.

    :shock: :shock: :shock:

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.04.08 13:23:20 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
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  • No wonder he was standing a lot in the flyhalf position with a # 13 on his back

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.04.08 13:34:01 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • Cru-El

    Stop being such a hater. :lol:

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.04.08 14:10:02 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
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  • Now that is AWESOME news…but knowing the Brumbies they will give him a klap on the ear in the first few minutes….just to test it out! :evil:

    Let’s hope the “rest” has done JP the world of good and he returns to his best form. The one major thing the Sharks are lacking is out and out pace on the wings. We don’t have a Chavanga or Nokwe or Habana.

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.04.08 14:19:15 by Villie Reply
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  • I firmly believe 10 is where Steyn will end. And he will be a TOP quality flyhalf. I know that I differ from most of you in this respect but let the chap mature a little, remember despite being a WC winner he’s still relatively inexperienced at Super 14 and Bok level. Another season of learning will do him the world of good.

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.04.08 14:21:51 by Villie Reply
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  • Villie, does he learn though?

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.04.08 14:29:00 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Rob,

    I agree his form hasn’t been great this season, so far, and some of his option taking has been poor but I believe he WILL learn. So far it’s been a bit slower than hoped but he has moved around the backline quite a bit. Jake even played him on the wing for the Boks!

    I do get mega irritated with some of the ridiculous drop kicks he tries, especially when we have a full line outside him!

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.04.08 14:38:17 by Villie Reply
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  • And are we (by we I mean Dick Muir) giving him a chance to learn ?

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.04.08 14:39:09 by blackshark (JAWS) Reply

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  • Villie

    I seriously think Frans needs a few weeks rest. Aint gonna happen though.

    It seems he is too good to be dropped or rotated.

  • Comment 24, posted at 15.04.08 14:47:13 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
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  • yes… the droppies in particular are what irritates me.

  • Comment 25, posted at 15.04.08 14:47:53 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Hi Villie.

    I think it is great that Rory is starting ahead of Ruan. Love Ruan – but he hasn’t been looking comfortable and his kicking is not looking too good either.

    Not crazy about JP – but maybe being dropped will give him the incentive to play better – we all know he can.

  • Comment 26, posted at 15.04.08 14:48:05 by Nessa Reply

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  • I am excited about Rory starting..I’ve been waiting for weeks now.

    As for Fred’s shouting last week..I heard it loud and clear. Of course I was shouting right back at my laptop along with him.

    Personally..I think Fred should come teach the rest of the guys just a few basic things in French to use on the field just to keep the other team guessing.

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.04.08 14:52:54 by milissa Reply

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  • #18
    I’m a lover not a hater (if there is such a word). I tell you…the days of goog English has went.

  • Comment 28, posted at 15.04.08 14:53:14 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • Cru – the saying is “a lover – not a fighter”

  • Comment 29, posted at 15.04.08 14:55:09 by Nessa Reply

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  • I don’t think anyone is crazy about the droppies…

    Are we exploiting the young mans talent by using him wherever we have a gap that week or is that something every “modern” rugby player should expect?

  • Comment 30, posted at 15.04.08 14:56:37 by blackshark (JAWS) Reply

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  • Nessa,
    I know, but wpw called me a hater. I think he’s just trying 2B cru-el :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.04.08 14:57:36 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • Ruan played his best game against the Highlanders. He was much better than Kocky was when he came on. Ruan was much quicker in his delivery to the backline and was getting to the breakdown much quicker than Kocky (this has been where he has been poor this year, he was always late to the breakdown). Sorry, but I think Ruan should be starting this week so he can get the chance to continue his good form from the Highlanders game. Great to have Muller back, but we really need to realize he needs to rest at least one game this Super 14 season. It is not reasonable to have a lock (especially one that is very involved) to play every game in a Super 14 season.

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.04.08 14:58:46 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Ruan is Dancing Bear’s lovechild. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 15.04.08 15:01:16 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
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  • #30

    I think it is a little of both, but in recent weeks more of the exploiting bit. I think FS has got amazing potential, believe it with every fibre of my being but the poor kid needs consistency not only so he could live up to that potential but also because being kept in one spot adds to his confidence.

    If I kept getting bumped from position to position here at work even if I knew there was another reason for it..after a week or two I’d start thinking that management thought I wasn’t good enough for any of the previous positions..which in turn would just push me further into a slump.

  • Comment 34, posted at 15.04.08 15:01:41 by milissa Reply

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  • He is cruel – how can anyone be nasty to someone with a profile pic like that? Not me. :wink:

    I also think they shouldn’t be playing Johann this weekend.

  • Comment 35, posted at 15.04.08 15:01:48 by Nessa Reply

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  • #32

    I think Ruan is a great player but after seeing them both play w/ Fred I see more potential for great things with Rory & Fred. I just don’t think the magnetism needed is there between Ruan and Fred yet, they play well together but for lack of a better way to describe it has been ‘predictable’ play.

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.04.08 15:04:44 by milissa Reply

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  • “…I just don’t think the magnetism needed is there between Ruan and Fred yet…”

    Where as Freddie is verrry attracted to Rory…. ;)

  • Comment 37, posted at 15.04.08 15:07:13 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • I think you are right there Milissa – Ruan played well with Butch.

  • Comment 38, posted at 15.04.08 15:07:38 by Nessa Reply

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  • DP – on the same wavelength I see? :grin:

  • Comment 39, posted at 15.04.08 15:08:35 by Nessa Reply

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  • Comment 37 of 38, posted at 15.04.08 15:07:13 by Dive Pass

    At which point RobD puts up a picture of Freddie in his Pink Stad de France outfit…

  • Comment 40, posted at 15.04.08 15:09:11 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • now now. Fred does not want to talk about that ;)

  • Comment 41, posted at 15.04.08 15:11:30 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • #34

    You know, there could be another reason why you’re being bumped into different positions at work. :twisted:

  • Comment 42, posted at 15.04.08 15:13:31 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • #38,

    So Ruan likes them Butch :shock:

  • Comment 43, posted at 15.04.08 15:15:24 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • …and there goes the thread right into the gutter. How come this always happens when I post? :lol:

    On a serious note..At this point with the England rumours that are circulating, I’d take Fred in SF pink anyday of the week. However, until Fred says otherwise in his blog, I’m going to just believe that he’s going to ignore the ‘order’, stay for CC and go home in November. Home being of course ST..who by that time will have done something with all the 10s they’ve got so it’ll be like the good old days w/ JBE @ 9, Fred @ 10 and my ‘little’ Clement @ 15.

  • Comment 44, posted at 15.04.08 15:27:32 by milissa Reply

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  • #37
    Maybe the onebrow scares Fred :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 15.04.08 15:43:38 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • What does BABVA stand for?

  • Comment 46, posted at 15.04.08 15:46:22 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Cru – shame, now you are being nasty. Poor Ruantjie!! :cry:

  • Comment 47, posted at 15.04.08 15:47:03 by Nessa Reply

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  • Ruan is Dancing Bear’s lovechild. :mrgreen:
    Comment 33 of 45, posted at 15.04.08 15:01:16 by wpw (YNWA)

    sssssshhhhhhhhhhhh I didn’t mean to make it so obvious. :oops:

  • Comment 48, posted at 15.04.08 15:47:08 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I think Kocky is a fantastic scrumhalf and will be a huge asset to SA rugby in the future. However at this point in time, and based on Ruan’s performance against the Highlanders, he should be given another chance to start ahead of Kocky. He was head and shoulders better than Kocky against the Higlanders. As soon as he came on, the service was much slower (I mean much much much slower than Ruan), he was not getting to the breakdown quick enough (we saw several other people playing scrumhalf when he came on) and his snipes were not as effective as Ruan’s. I am only talking about the Highlanders game here.

  • Comment 49, posted at 15.04.08 15:49:29 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • DB – and what about all the kicks he missed?

  • Comment 50, posted at 15.04.08 15:50:49 by Nessa Reply

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  • Be Afraid…Be Very Afraid!!!

    Thanx for the invite Rob.

  • Comment 51, posted at 15.04.08 15:54:01 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • Kocky missed his kick for poles too. Nobody was kicking well, and as I have said in earlier posts, the problem with the Sharks kicking for poles is not that they have kickers good enough the problem is they have too many kickers and nobody has gotten a chance to settle into the position. One can not expect an 80% goalkicker when they only get to kick here and there in games.

  • Comment 52, posted at 15.04.08 15:55:07 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Sorry, but I think it is a very big mistake to bench Ruan after he was just coming back into his own in the Highlanders game. People talk about Steyn being messed around, but this is messing around with Ruan, and he deserves to start again this week after last week’s performance, even with the bad goal kicking. It is stupid to mess him around like this.

  • Comment 53, posted at 15.04.08 15:56:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I thought Rory kicked extremely well for us in the CC – he stood up to the plate when he had the chance. Now it is up to Ruan to earn that place back. It is a case of “no-one is safe”!

    Don’t get me wrong DB – Ruan has always been one of my absolute favourites – just think he is looking a little out of sorts at the moment.

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.04.08 15:58:27 by Nessa Reply

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  • DB – another thing, I think Ruan was messed around in the WC – playing him at 15 or leaving him on the bench. He didn’t play all that much. I don’t think he has looked anything like his old self since he has got back.

  • Comment 55, posted at 15.04.08 15:59:55 by Nessa Reply

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  • Agree that Ruan has been messed around, but continuing to mess him around is not going to help the situation. Kocky kicked great in the CC, but really to drop Ruan because he was on the Springbok squad and Kocky filled in very well is not right. At the beginning of the CC last year, he was terrible until AJ got stuck into him and got him to be less “cocky”. Sorry, but I think Kocky is a great young scrummie, but not on the level of Ruan, and Ruan deserves a chance to settle into the meeting.

  • Comment 56, posted at 15.04.08 16:04:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • This is my take on things.

    Ruan’s performance against the Highlanders was better than his past few showings since he’s been back but not as great as I’ve heard that he can play. Ruan strikes me at the moment as a more conservative player which I think stifles a bit Fred’s ability to do what he was brought down to do.

    Rory in the games where he’s played and has had some flex room (unlike the last week where we were just trying to keep our heads above water) he has showed a bit more creativity, drive, and out of the box thinking which fits well with the way Fred plays.

  • Comment 57, posted at 15.04.08 16:04:15 by milissa Reply

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  • DB – what do you think about the statement the new SB coach made that the Sharks are mad not to use this opportunity to play Ruan as flyhalf?

  • Comment 58, posted at 15.04.08 16:06:42 by Nessa Reply

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  • milissa, your post would imply that the perfect thing to do would be start with the more conservative Ruan and bring on Kocky as an impact player. This is what I think should happen, the flair will be much more effective in the second half when the opposition is not quite as quick.

  • Comment 59, posted at 15.04.08 16:10:07 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Nessa, my feeling is that if we want Ruan to be a flyhalf, then play him at flyhalf in every game, which means sitting Freddie on the bench. Not the best for the Sharks in my opinion. The problem is that we can not keep messing him around, the coaches (Muir and PdV) need to get together and decide what is best for SA rugby and then play Ruan there. I have no problem with him at flyhalf, as long as he is given a fair opportunity to develop in the position. Otherwise, keep him at scrummie and let him play there, he will come into form, and he is one of the very best scrumhalfs in the world when his is playing his best.

  • Comment 60, posted at 15.04.08 16:12:21 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Bearing the bigger picture (national side) in mind, I agree with PdV. SA doesn’t have a lot of talented flyhalves. (doesn’t sound right)
    Ruan can make the position his own. Sharks can do worse than try Kockett, Pienaar, Barrit(Steyn).

  • Comment 61, posted at 15.04.08 16:13:32 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • Okay guys and girls – nice chatting to you – have to fight the traffic home. Cherrio!

  • Comment 62, posted at 15.04.08 16:14:11 by Nessa Reply

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  • Hell, they can even play him @ 12 next to FM and ease him into the 10-role.

  • Comment 63, posted at 15.04.08 16:16:47 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • However, that doesn’t solve having Fred and the rest of our guys behind him being stifled by Ruan’s more conservative approach for 40+ minutes.

    It’s no secret that I’m a huge Fred supporter but I feel like the Sharks are not getting atm what they paid for because of the 9/10 connection with Ruan & Fred. Does the way Fred play sometimes backfire? Yes..he’s not that perfect yet ;) but he is dangerous when the situation is right and so far that situation has yet to materialize with Ruan and I think that with Rory it just might show up this week.

    Of course that theory will be also dependent on DM’s choices for 11 thru 15.

  • Comment 64, posted at 15.04.08 16:18:18 by milissa Reply

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  • Cru – now don’t add ANOTHER 12 to the mix!!! We already have the pro-Brad and the pro-Frans contenders. :wink:

  • Comment 65, posted at 15.04.08 16:18:48 by Nessa Reply

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  • Night Nessa! Careful driving.

  • Comment 66, posted at 15.04.08 16:18:50 by milissa Reply

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  • Thanks Milissa – I will try very hard to not shoot more than 5 taxi drivers tonight. :wink:

  • Comment 67, posted at 15.04.08 16:21:22 by Nessa Reply

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  • milissa, Ruan’s service was much snappier than Kocky’s in the Highlander’s game, how can you say the faster service will stifle Freddie? Does not make sense, surely quicker service is what a player like Freddie needs? Sorry, but the service was so much slower once Kocky came on. Ruan biggest problem is that he has a tendency to go walkabout from time to time, in the Highlander’s game it was Kocky that was found going walkabout and not being at the base of the rucks and mauls to clear. Once he came on, we saw Freddie, both wings, and even Steyn playing at scrumhalf, but none of them had to do it when Ruan was on the field. Sorry, but I see Kocky stifling Fred more in that game than Ruan.

  • Comment 68, posted at 15.04.08 16:24:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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    The muir the merrier :mrgreen:

  • Comment 69, posted at 15.04.08 16:25:07 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • DB..the Highlanders game was a bit fubar from start to finish overall..I don’t think you can really base anything from that..but yes Rory did seem a bit out of it.

    I am basing my pick of Rory/Fred over Ruan/Fred based on the entire amount of play I’ve seen between the two pairs based on the previous 7 games.

  • Comment 70, posted at 15.04.08 16:30:16 by milissa Reply

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  • milissa, but Ruan was injured for 3 games, so how can you compare the games he did not play in. In the games both played I think that it is 50 – 50 which one played better. My point is that with Ruan coming right agains the Highlanders, and Kocky out of it in that game, why not give Ruan another chance to continue getting back to his best? Kocky may be just as bad as he was last week.

  • Comment 71, posted at 15.04.08 16:34:07 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • My team for this weekend, taking into account rotation, and current form:

    1. Carstens
    2. Bissie
    3. Jannie/BJ (fitness)
    4. Sykes
    5. Muller
    6. Botes
    7. AJ
    8. Kankow
    9. Ruan
    10. Freddie
    11. JPP
    12. Steyn
    13. Murray
    14. Ndungane
    15. Terblanche

    16. Burden
    17. Beast
    18. Albert
    19. Keegan/Deysel (fitness)
    20. Kocky
    21. Adi
    22. Mentz

  • Comment 72, posted at 15.04.08 16:39:01 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • There is always the chance that Rory might be out of it this week too, just like there is the chance that starting Ruan he might hit a plateau in his comeback.

    I just think one would think/hope that Rory would see this opportunity for what it is, grab it, run with it and show everyone what he is capable of..so he doesn’t get relegated to consistently to the bench only to see playing time when the clock is hovering near the 70th minute or later.

  • Comment 73, posted at 15.04.08 16:42:22 by milissa Reply

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  • Not sure if you guys know this byt Milissa and DB you guys are both in the US as far as i know :wink:

  • Comment 74, posted at 15.04.08 16:42:46 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Man i am bushed. Just had a hectic spin class. :oops:

    Maybe i should become a Stormer supporter with my choice of excersize :wink:

  • Comment 75, posted at 15.04.08 16:44:11 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • PS..DB I agree with every one of your picks except obviously #9

  • Comment 76, posted at 15.04.08 16:44:12 by milissa Reply

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  • Are we? Well I know I am. Where you at DB? Right or Left coast or somewhere in the middle?

  • Comment 77, posted at 15.04.08 16:45:06 by milissa Reply

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  • millissa, one thing Kocky has shown consistently since coming to the Sharks is that he will most certainly grab every opportunity he gets with both hands. He has already shown what he is capable of, and like I said in an earlier post, he is a superb scrumhalf. My preference for Ruan has nothing to do with Kocky’s abilities (or lack thereof), I don’t doubt his abilities. I just think that at this point in their careers, Ruan is a better scrumhalf, and if given the opportunity to settle into his position, will show his worth and will be better than Kocky. I am not saying that Kocky will not eventually be a better scrummie, just not right now.

    So where in the US are you Millissa?

  • Comment 78, posted at 15.04.08 16:45:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • DB is in DC

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  • KSA…I did the spin class thing for a bit but then my gym stop offering the beginner/intermediate class and there was no way I was insane enough to join the advanced spinners.

  • Comment 80, posted at 15.04.08 16:47:17 by milissa Reply

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  • Being a Durban boy, I can’t live too far from a coast Millissa, I am on the right (correct) coast, in Annapolis Maryland. I work just on the outskirts of Washington DC.

  • Comment 81, posted at 15.04.08 16:47:17 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • :-) Me too..but up in NJ. I’ve never been down your way, but the father-in-law to be works just outside DC..somewhere and the hubby to be is down there all the time for work as well.

  • Comment 82, posted at 15.04.08 16:50:16 by milissa Reply

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  • Will have to get together for a beer when you are down here some time. I was just up in your neck of the woods, delivering a sailboat up to New York (Rye, NY), and will be going back up there the first weekend in May to race. What part of Jersey if you don’t ming me asking?

  • Comment 83, posted at 15.04.08 16:52:52 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • what, no BRAD??? :oops:

    DB, don’t make me go find the button again ;)

    The good news is that I have now almost run a marathon. 40kms.

    Pity it took me two weeks to do it ;)

  • Comment 84, posted at 15.04.08 16:53:39 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • DC was named after Dan Carter. They just tell people it’s District of Columbia :smile:

  • Comment 85, posted at 15.04.08 16:54:38 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • I’m in Flemington and definitely, perhaps the next time the hubby is heading down to business I’ll take a ride down. The last few times he’s been down he’s been doing work at Fort Detrick.

  • Comment 86, posted at 15.04.08 16:56:54 by milissa Reply

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  • RobD, buddy, hands off that button. :razz: You know what I have been saying, and I agree that his defense is superb, but he can not play every game in the Super 14, he needs a rest, my not playing him this week is purely so he can be rested, not a benching. My plan would be to rest Steyn against the ‘tahs and bring Brad back to 12 for the rest of the season.

  • Comment 87, posted at 15.04.08 16:57:28 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Flemington? What exit? :lol: Sorry but those of you who have not lived in New Jersey or know someone that lives there will not understand that. Millissa, my e-mail is [email protected], fire me off an e-mail when you plan to come down next.

  • Comment 88, posted at 15.04.08 16:58:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • DB – I for one am actually dying to see Frans play at 12.

    Just cos I think it will shut up all the Barritt detractors.

  • Comment 89, posted at 15.04.08 17:01:52 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Cru-El, considering that Christopher Columbus is now considered not politically correct in the US (white European discovering a continent that was already inhabited by other people) perhaps you are right, Dan Carter it is, but also being very involved in the sailing community and one of the most famous sailors being Dennis Conner or DC as he is also known, perhaps it is named for him. :lol:

  • Comment 90, posted at 15.04.08 17:02:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I am not a Barritt detractor, but I do think that Steyn’s best position is 12 or 15. You might want to be careful because Steyn may have a blinder at 12.

  • Comment 91, posted at 15.04.08 17:03:26 by Dancing Bear Reply
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    It’s definately Dan Carter. Americans knew something BIG was coming and then invented American football as they knew they would be unable to compete in rugby with DC.

  • Comment 92, posted at 15.04.08 17:05:09 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • hey maybe when we are there in the Summer we can have the first International Sharksworld get together :grin:

  • Comment 93, posted at 15.04.08 17:05:58 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • hehehe Cru-El, you are more in love with Dan Carter than RobD is with Barritt of me with Ruan for that matter. :lol:

    Did you know the USA is the defending Olympic gold medalist in Rugby? In fact the USA has won the last two gold medals given for Rugby.

  • Comment 94, posted at 15.04.08 17:06:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • you know me, DB. Live by the sword, die by the sword, kinda thing ;)

    I’m not scared to make big calls. Also not scared to admit when I’m wrong.

    Fortunately that hasn’t been necessary yet ;)

  • Comment 95, posted at 15.04.08 17:07:19 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Now we’re talking KSA, I have a great crab shack where we can go and get as much Maryland Blue Crab as you can possibly eat. :smile:

  • Comment 96, posted at 15.04.08 17:08:06 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I’m not scared to make big calls. Also not scared to admit when I’m wrong.

    Fortunately that hasn’t been necessary yet ;)
    Comment 95 of 96, posted at 15.04.08 17:07:19 by robdylan (LTOFT)

    Good for you, I had to admit I was wrong once, it was when I thought I was wrong, but I wasn’t. :lol:

  • Comment 97, posted at 15.04.08 17:08:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • haha exit 10 would be the closer coming up from the shore..but then you’d have a bit of traveling to do.

    I have added you to my address book. I know this month he’s going out to California for work. Jet something labs and next month he’s on holiday fly-fishing in W.VA and I’m on holiday in Durban..but beyond that I have no idea what the travel arrangements look like.

  • Comment 98, posted at 15.04.08 17:09:41 by milissa Reply

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  • Hehehe

    Okay I gotta go and get dinner for the family and a new TV remote :evil: kette has had enough of being the remote now :wink:

  • Comment 99, posted at 15.04.08 17:10:28 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • #93 I’m in for any International Sharksworld Conference…that sounds so official too so I’m sure I’ll get vaction days approved to come down and attend.

  • Comment 100, posted at 15.04.08 17:11:36 by milissa Reply

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  • Cheers KSA, give my best to kette.

  • Comment 101, posted at 15.04.08 17:11:39 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Millissa, summer in Annapolis is a beautiful time to be there. Will have to take you all sailing when you come down. Lots of good places to see, and good pubs to visit and even some good live music as well.

  • Comment 102, posted at 15.04.08 17:12:43 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • #94
    USA winning Olympic gold in rugby is like the Boels winning the S14 without most of the AB’s not playing…meaningless. No wonder they can’t defend their title.

  • Comment 103, posted at 15.04.08 17:13:03 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • Cru-El, the USA could not defend the title because they took Rugby out of the Olympics after the 1924 games. They beat France in the final in both 1920 and 1924. Best part is the USA Rugby team was actually the Stanford University Football team.

  • Comment 104, posted at 15.04.08 17:16:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Football as in gridiron.

  • Comment 105, posted at 15.04.08 17:16:31 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Good old Stanford. That’s where it all began. Took a drive through the campus just the other day. What a place.

  • Comment 106, posted at 15.04.08 17:18:53 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • #104
    But the French is weak anyway, that’s why they sent Michalak to Durban to learn muir about rugby :lol:

  • Comment 107, posted at 15.04.08 17:18:56 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • So RobD, when you coming to the right coast of the US?

  • Comment 108, posted at 15.04.08 17:19:33 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Cru-El :lol: Good point, and all Michalak is doing is confusing his teammates with his French Flair!

  • Comment 109, posted at 15.04.08 17:20:21 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I’m not going to say a thing…well maybe one thing

    Although I’ve seen some non-match pictures and it looks like the rest of the guys are doing quite well with the ‘Flair’.

    and on a totally random note..wasn’t there an old school wrestler who promoted some sort of Flair too?

  • Comment 110, posted at 15.04.08 17:27:33 by milissa Reply

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  • #109
    The only flair being his dyed hair :?:

  • Comment 111, posted at 15.04.08 17:32:50 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • DB, who knows? I would love to… your neck of the woods is one of my favourite parts of the world.

    Pity my chosen profession happens mostly on the other coast

  • Comment 112, posted at 15.04.08 17:34:40 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • and on a totally random note..wasn’t there an old school wrestler who promoted some sort of Flair too?
    Comment 110 of 112, posted at 15.04.08 17:27:33 by milissa

    Rick Flair??? :lol: :razz:

  • Comment 113, posted at 15.04.08 17:39:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Just don’t bother visiting in the winter RobD, you won’t like it. :wink:

  • Comment 114, posted at 15.04.08 17:39:43 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I like Winter.

  • Comment 115, posted at 15.04.08 17:41:54 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • so much so that I spell it with a Capital Letter ;)

  • Comment 116, posted at 15.04.08 17:43:16 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Oh yeah, that’s right, you’re not a Durban boy are you RobD. Nobody from Durban I know likes the winter (capital letter or not).

  • Comment 117, posted at 15.04.08 17:45:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Dundee or Glencoe or something like that. I do know you went to my father’s alma mater though, along with Smittie and Chilliboy.

  • Comment 118, posted at 15.04.08 17:46:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Born in Pretoria, raised in Dundee, spent some time in England, then raised further in Pretoria

  • Comment 119, posted at 15.04.08 17:50:51 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • DB, what era was your pops at PBHS?

  • Comment 120, posted at 15.04.08 17:51:15 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • He was born in 1924, so mostly during WWII.

  • Comment 121, posted at 15.04.08 17:54:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • ah. That was quite a while ago now… ;)

  • Comment 122, posted at 15.04.08 17:55:30 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Isn’t Dundee near a town called Glencoe and there is a dam between the two called Glendee? I am sure I sailed there when I was a little kid on my optimist or dabchick.

  • Comment 123, posted at 15.04.08 17:55:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • A long time ago indeed RobD, I am showing my age here. :lol: Unless I can convince you all my dad was 60 when he had me.

  • Comment 124, posted at 15.04.08 17:56:56 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • DB – that sounds about right. The dam, I mean.

  • Comment 125, posted at 15.04.08 18:06:18 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • hehehe I thought so, it was so long ago, I don’t even remember which boat I was racing. I know it was either an Optimist or a Dabchick. I remember I did win that regatta, and got a very nice Parker pen set for winning. :lol:

  • Comment 126, posted at 15.04.08 18:09:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • It had to have been the early 70s. Were you even born then RobD? :wink:

  • Comment 127, posted at 15.04.08 18:11:01 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • nope. I was born in 77 ;)

  • Comment 128, posted at 15.04.08 18:24:59 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Hey DB

    You have some “selling” to do dude. My experience of the East coast is Flying through JFK 4 or 5 times.

    On the West Coast I have been to universal Studios, Venice beach, Sunset boulevard, Mount baldy. And HOPE to go to Disneyland, Sea World San Diego etc.

    What you got on the West coast that i can do? I know there is The museums and monuments in DC as well as the Disney wolrd in Florida…..

  • Comment 129, posted at 15.04.08 18:26:19 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • 77?????????????

    Sheez you ARE a spring chicken!!!!!!!!!! Even younger than Kette. :shock:

  • Comment 130, posted at 15.04.08 18:27:26 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Mount baldy? I should get a T-shirt that says that ;)

  • Comment 131, posted at 15.04.08 18:33:07 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • KSA, depends where on the East Coast you want to go. New York offers a lot from Broadway to wonderful museums. As for DC, the Smithsonian museums are a must. The Spy museum is good to see, and a visit to the FBI headquarters is quite something. Baltimore has an excellent aquarium and wonderful dining. Also a day spent at the Inner Harbor in Baltimore is spectacular. Annapolis has the Naval Academy which is a great visit, and then there is the entire Eastern shore of the Chesapeake Bay which is something worth seeing. Florida has Disneyworld (but I hate Orlando), and the Florida Keys are definitely worth visiting. The outer banks of North Carolina is worth spending time at. Whitewater rafting in West Virginia is spectacular. Want more?

  • Comment 132, posted at 15.04.08 18:35:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Boston is somewhere everyone should visit, all of New England is something to see. If you happen to come in the October time frame, anywhere up the East coast from DC on up is spectacular with the autumn colours. Spend some time driving the Blue Ridge Parkway also known as Skyline Drive (considered the most beautiful stretch of road in north America).

  • Comment 133, posted at 15.04.08 18:38:34 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • No that’s cool thanks. :grin:

    We are going to have our hands full with trying to get to everywhere we want to see while there.

    It will be one of those holidays where you get back to work to rest after the holiday.

  • Comment 134, posted at 15.04.08 18:38:52 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Rob Mount baldy is just above Pomona / LaVerne suburbs of Greater LA.

    I have literally played in the snow in the am (Mount baldy) and WATCHED people on venice beach in the afternoon. :wink:

  • Comment 135, posted at 15.04.08 18:40:45 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • You just missed the Cherry Blossom festival in Washington DC. It is a beautiful time of year here. Cherry trees blooming everywhere, spring flowers coming out, greening up, getting warmer. I love the spring.

  • Comment 136, posted at 15.04.08 18:40:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I have literally played in the snow in the am (Mount baldy) and WATCHED people on venice beach in the afternoon. :wink:
    Comment 135 of 136, posted at 15.04.08 18:40:45 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!)

    I went skiing in California in the mountains, and the next day spent sailing out of Marina del Rey and sunning on the beach in Santa Monica.

  • Comment 137, posted at 15.04.08 18:42:03 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Spring is a wonderful time of year, that’s for sure. I reckon you need a cold winter to really appreciate it, though.

  • Comment 138, posted at 15.04.08 18:45:53 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Or spend every winter Sunday sailing. Believe me, that will make you appreciate the spring. :wink:

  • Comment 139, posted at 15.04.08 18:47:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • We only had one day and were stationed up in pomona near the dragstip.

    So we drove up probably the steepest road i have ever been up and then back down to the beach to Venice beach at the Muscle beach and then Hollywood in the afternoon.

    I would love to go to the Joshua tree national park in CA as well. The just look awesome to me.

  • Comment 140, posted at 15.04.08 18:47:36 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • yeah i am afraid I have never really experienced a cold enough winter to appreciate the spring.

  • Comment 141, posted at 15.04.08 18:49:27 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • KSA, that’s not a Stormers jersey in your pic, right?

  • Comment 142, posted at 15.04.08 18:54:51 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • ok – I see now that it isn’t.

    Are both of your little ones redheads?

  • Comment 143, posted at 15.04.08 18:58:28 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

    It is my IRB shirt from the Dubai 7′s.

    The stripes on the shoulders are the Adidas stripes.

    BTW Adidas are no longer the clothing people for the IRB. it is now canterbury.

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  • Comment 142
    not if he values his life it won’t be :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 145, posted at 15.04.08 19:00:49 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • hey rob, Are both of your little ones redheads?
    what makes you ask that ?

  • Comment 146, posted at 15.04.08 19:03:56 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • hey rob,
    Are both of your little ones redheads?
    what makes you ask that ?

  • Comment 147, posted at 15.04.08 19:04:14 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • hmmm I think they are getting tired of me at Ruggaworld, I have been hitting Patrick pretty hard at every opportunity. DO you believe that guy had the gall to post that Kankow was worthless, and his game against the Highlanders he did absolutely nothing and doesn’t even deserve his spot on the Sharks team. Then every journalist in SA, Oz, and NZ picked Kankow as their 8 in their form team of the week. Patrick’s bias against everything South African is really tiresome.

  • Comment 148, posted at 15.04.08 19:07:06 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • our connection really sucks, KSA has given up and from my double comment above seems I might be giving up soon too :evil:

  • Comment 149, posted at 15.04.08 19:08:23 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • Hiya kette, good to see you. :smile:

  • Comment 150, posted at 15.04.08 19:08:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • just looking at the pics… can tell that the older one is definitely a redhead, but wasn’t sure if the younger one is too.

  • Comment 151, posted at 15.04.08 19:09:47 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • Posting is very slow for me too kette.

  • Comment 152, posted at 15.04.08 19:10:21 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • ok – off to play soccer in the garden.

    See y’all later

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  • older one is blonde, turning brown, younger one is brown, staying brown – maybe check the color settings on your monitor rob :lol:

    hey DB, good to see you around here again tonight

  • Comment 154, posted at 15.04.08 19:13:38 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • Cheers RobD.

  • Comment 155, posted at 15.04.08 19:14:29 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Good to be here kette, even if a vast majority of the Sharks supporters on this site think Kocky is better than Ruan. :wink:

  • Comment 156, posted at 15.04.08 19:16:20 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • enjoy the soccer Rob

    sadly I’m going to leave you too DB, have a splitting headache and still have report cards to work on :sad:

  • Comment 157, posted at 15.04.08 19:17:27 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • yikes it is slow, I don’t think I can stick around today to wait 5 minutes for each comment to be posted. Cheers kette and KSA, will catch you both around I am sure. Have a good night.

  • Comment 158, posted at 15.04.08 19:17:46 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Good to be here kette, even if a vast majority of the Sharks supporters on this site think Kocky is better than Ruan.

    Comment 156 of 158, posted at 15.04.08 19:16:20 by Dancing Bear

    I have always like Ruan but his kicking in the last two games has been off and when Kockett came on the game definitely picked up….we’re lucky to have both options available for sure :wink:

  • Comment 159, posted at 15.04.08 19:20:57 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • test

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  • see you around DB, have a good ‘rest of Tuesday’ :grin:

  • Comment 161, posted at 15.04.08 19:22:34 by KSA Sharkette Reply

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  • 1-2-3

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  • something ain’t right around here

  • Comment 163, posted at 15.04.08 19:23:49 by robdylan (LTOFT) Reply
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  • kette disagree on Kocky in the last game. Ruan was much better and after Kocky came on the service to the backs was much slower and he was slow to get to the breakdown. Also remember that even though Ruan kicked poorly, Kocky also missed his one kick at goals. So the goal kicking thing is really not a factor.

  • Comment 164, posted at 15.04.08 19:26:55 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • very very slow getting back.

    I was born in ’77 too…I saw that up there somewhere but I’ve lost it again.

  • Comment 165, posted at 15.04.08 19:30:43 by milissa Reply

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  • Lots of young’uns around here. :grin:

  • Comment 166, posted at 15.04.08 19:37:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Yikes, I moved from SA to the USA in ’77. :lol:

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  • :smile:

    sorry..i don’t know why people assume that just because I’m here at work that I really want to answer their questions. They still haven’t figured out that I just want to talk rugby even with all the Fred, Sharks, Toulouse and France stuff decorating my cube.

  • Comment 168, posted at 15.04.08 19:54:44 by milissa Reply

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  • Millissa, you need an office like me, I just close the door in the hopes nobody will bother me. Usually works, but there is always some overly zealous person that will come knock on the door. :lol:

  • Comment 169, posted at 15.04.08 19:59:21 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • besides, it is in the 60s today, with winds at 10-15 knots, they all know I would much rather be out on the water. Hmmmmmm good point, I’m going home early to go sailing!

  • Comment 170, posted at 15.04.08 20:00:20 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • That’s it, I can’t stand another minute in this office. I am off, gone sailing! Cheers everyone.

  • Comment 171, posted at 15.04.08 20:05:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I’d love to have an office with a door..right now I’m still low on the ladder so I’m stuck in a cube where everyone just waltzs right in.

  • Comment 172, posted at 15.04.08 21:10:51 by milissa Reply

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  • That’s it, I can’t stand another minute in this office. I am off, gone sailing! Cheers everyone.

    Comment 171 of 172, posted at 15.04.08 20:05:14 by Dancing Bear Edit

    Tough job you have. :wink:

  • Comment 173, posted at 16.04.08 06:30:53 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • but there is always some overly zealous person that will come knock on the door.

    Comment 169 of 173, posted at 15.04.08 19:59:21 by Dancing Bear Edit

    They should invent STAN buttons for office doors. :lol:

  • Comment 174, posted at 16.04.08 06:32:01 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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