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Stadium woes loom for Sharks


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Sharks on 21 Apr 2008 at 13:20

The new Moses Mahbida-stadium currently under construction for the Fifa 2010 World Cup may turn out to be a white elephant that could prove hard to maintain.

News24 reports that the Durban municipality – the owner of the facility – is working hard at convincing the Natal Rugby Union (Sharks) to swap their current home at Absa Park for the Moses Mahbida-stadium after 2010.

Many believe that the new stadium will be exclusively used by soccer clubs, but Gillian Saunders, head of Grant Thornton’s strategic analysis department in Johannesburg, says that it would not be financially possible for soccer clubs to use the stadium on their own.

“All of the 2010 stadia will have to incorporate as many sporting codes as possible after the tournament or they will be not be financially viable,” says Saunders.

Viable

Julie-May Ellingson, head of the eThekwini-municipality’s strategic projects department agrees. According to Ellingson the municipality plans to use the stadium for rugby, soccer and athletic events. “It is not financially viable that the stadium be used exclusively for soccer”.

Professor Ronnie Schloss, chief operations officer of the Premier Soccer League (PSL) said last week that the PSL supports the building of new stadiums “because soccer does not have its own facilities”.

Schloss confirmed that it “would not be possible for soccer clubs to maintain the stadium in Durban on their own”.

“Ticket prices for soccer matches are only R20 each, so gate takings would probably not even cover the security costs of the stadium.

Sharing with rugby?

“The soccer clubs won’t mind sharing the new stadia – as long as they don’t have to be second in line, behind the rugby unions when it comes to the use of the facilities”, says Schloss.

“Alternatively government can subsidise the stadia as was done for the rugby and cricket unions during apartheid,” Schloss said.

Brian van Zyl, chief operations officer of the Sharks, confirmed this week that the negotiations for the new stadium is ongoing, but did not want to comment on the process. The Sharks are renting their current premises on a long-term basis with a contract that only expires in 2056.

The initial plan was, according to Ellingson, to upgrade the existing Absa Park ruby stadium for 2010 at an estimated cost of R350m, but the plan was slated in favour of the new stadium.

No reason

The Moses Mahbida stadium is being constructed on the premises of the old King’s Park soccer stadium – not far away from Absa Park – at an estimated cost of about R2.2bn.

An informed source that wishes to remain anonymous, has confirmed to Sake24 that “up to today no reason was given to the Sharks for the decision not to upgrade Absa Park”.

Ellingson had said in an earlier interview that it’s possible that the Sharks current home could be downscaled and converted into a tennis stadium. “The negotiations with the Sharks are progressing well and we should have it concluded within the next few months,” Ellingson said.



25 Comments

  • :roll: oh boy…..

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.04.08 13:23:58 by Dive Pass Reply
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  • The Moses Mahbida stadium is being constructed on the premises of the old King’s Park soccer stadium

    Which was ALSO a white elephant!!!!

    Even with the previous stadium the soccer teams prefered to play their matches at Kings Park rugby Stadium.

    You would think the 2010 committe would have learnt from this.

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.04.08 13:26:26 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply
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  • The committee rather spend R2.2bn than a mear R350m :mrgreen: . Typical :evil: :evil:

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.04.08 13:30:01 by Reds Reply
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  • The eThekwini-municipality is a very conservation orientated municipality is is putting together a whole herd of white elehants (now is that PC?)…reports on the weekend showed that UShaka marine world and the Durban ICC are stilling running at loses.

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.04.08 13:30:56 by Dive Pass Reply
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  • Dp

    ICC I can understand. Ushaka I am reasonably surprised by though.

    I personally contribute a shed load of money to Ushaka every June and December. :wink:

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.04.08 13:33:30 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply
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  • Comment 3 of 5, posted at 21.04.08 13:30:01 by Reds

    The kickback on 2.2bn is alot bigger than that on 350 mil Reds, cmon now,we all know how this works.

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.04.08 13:38:08 by Clayton Reply
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  • Comment 5 of 5, posted at 21.04.08 13:33:30 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!)

    Glad your doing your bit to take our white elehant’s out of the red and put them in the black. It’s the politically correct thing to do.

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.04.08 13:38:29 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • DP #7

    Also easier to just spend the money then listen to the kids nag about it. :wink: And me also being able to jol on the slides is just a bonus.

    PLUS there are NO queues in the winter. :cool: :brrrr:

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.04.08 13:42:27 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Ushaka was a huge disappointment… the aquarium was so so bare… and the dolphin and particularly seal shows amateur at best, add the generic Mall style shops/cafe’s it was T A C K Y… the water park has nothing on the old Waterworld…

    Now if this new stadium has the seating close to the field and no track around it nor like the round Aussie AFL pitches it might be a worthy move… otherwise ain’t no way I’d want lose the atmosphere that we get at ABSA…

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.04.08 13:46:29 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Imagine the bunnfight and animosity surrounding season ticket holders and suite holders at KP if the stadium moves. :sad:

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.04.08 13:53:05 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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    I think that your heading should read “Stadium woes for 2010 stadium”, considering who holds a contract until 2056.

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.04.08 15:18:26 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • “Alternatively government can subsidise the stadia as was done for the rugby and cricket unions during apartheid,” Schloss said

    Alnmost sounds as if prof Schloss is longing for the return of apartheid. :evil:

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.04.08 15:22:19 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Salmo

    I only find the article don’t choose the headings myself :wink:

    I like the way you are thinking but reading between the lines it seems as if the Sharks may just go with this ludicrous idea.

    BJ V Zyl would have been more open with his reply if they were going to “druk” the municipality “‘n put” :sad:

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.04.08 15:23:02 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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    I also saw the headline in the Afrikaans press somewhere but never got as far as reading the article.
    Could it be that in 3 years time both the Sharks and Stormers play out of new homegrounds :?:

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.04.08 16:01:40 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • The Sharks are renting their current premises on a long-term basis with a contract that only expires in 2056.

    Pardon? 2056. Thats incredible. Long term is 10 years not 40!?!

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.04.08 16:17:30 by billy Reply

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    We could fit in a few world wars by then – must be good tenants.

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.04.08 16:35:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Comment 15 of 16, posted at 21.04.08 16:17:30 by billy

    “Guiness started brewing ales initially in Leixlip, then at the St. James’s Gate Brewery, Dublin, Ireland from 1759. He signed a 9,000 year lease at £45 per annum for the unused brewery….”

    Now THAT is a long lease…

  • Comment 17, posted at 21.04.08 16:55:11 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • The Lease was a 99 year lease when originally signed and that is how the 2056 date is.

    Must say this is the only 99 year lease I know of with an actual end date.

  • Comment 18, posted at 21.04.08 17:02:54 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Stadium move is back on!

  • Comment 19, posted at 13.10.09 22:27:59 by capetownguy Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 4) : and you can add their new “Point Waterfront” idea, with an hotel on Vetchies Pier and a small boat harbour….to your list! Give you 2 guesses as to where MS lives AND whic area has been granted a rate moritorium :roll: :shock: :twisted: :evil: :???:

  • Comment 20, posted at 13.10.09 22:42:24 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • wonder how ticket sales are going. Probably not so well as in CT – people think that final will be in Durban :razz:

  • Comment 21, posted at 14.10.09 06:55:37 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 21) : :evil:

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  • Comment 22, posted at 14.10.09 07:03:15 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) (Comment 18) :

    Thats rather a common thing in Moz…but also dont know about actual ‘end Dates”…have not lived long enough to see that…yet… :grin:

    @Dive Pass (Comment 1) :
    Ditto that…

    Seems this was not really a properly ‘oorgedinkte’ idee… :?:

  • Comment 23, posted at 14.10.09 07:46:58 by GI Ice Reply
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  • Great – let’s change the Shark-Tank into a bigger Tennis facility – and then turn that other pink “rhino” called Westridge Tennis Stadium into a bigger Ping-Pong facility.

    :roll:

  • Comment 24, posted at 14.10.09 10:33:33 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 24) :

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 14.10.09 10:55:08 by GI Ice Reply
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