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Rotation new name of Bok game


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 13 May 2008 at 06:31

Bok coach Peter de Villiers says he is amazed to see how the rotation system is applied in the Super 14 competition and it is not the way he will use it.

Peter de Villiers wants to ensure during his first season at the helm that the much-discussed rotation system will be used at national level for the purpose it was originally designed.

“I am amazed to see how the rotation system is applied in the Super 14 competition, because that is not the way I understand it,” De Villiers said on Monday.

“What is the use if you announce a squad of more than 30 players at the start of the season and you persevere, week after week, with the same 22 or with a team showing only a few changes?

“The rotation system was designed, to my mind, to ensure you don’t burn out your top players and to establish depth in the various positions,” De Villiers said.

“I am sorry to say so but the reality is that some of our Super 14 franchises do not rotate their top players enough.

“One of my immediate aims is to be able to select three teams at the end of the season that will be more or less equally competitive.

“If the rotation system is applied sensibly we will be able to ensure that we have enough depth and talent in each position, and that one critical injury will not leave us stranded.”

Morris Gilbert writes in Beeld that De Villiers regards the Currie Cup competition as an important extension of the planning and preparation done at Springbok level.

Guided by medical experts

“If I have my way, all our top players will play Currie Cup rugby again,” he said.

“Of course, I will let myself be guided in this by medical experts who will advise me whom should be rested at which time.

“By resting, I mean the player should simply compete at a less intense level than Test rugby.

“It is important that our top players remain sharp and we can ensure that only if they, in addition to their Test duties, are also employed at Currie Cup level.

“The main stumbling block is that some of these players will start the Test season having played in too many Super 14 matches.”

De Villiers was surprised about how much had been made over the expected surprise selections for the Springbok squad.

“This kind of announcement always includes surprises. I won’t be the first or the last Springbok coach to be in the firing line over team selections.

“Any speculation will be premature in any case because we will know only on Saturday whether the Stormers and the Sharks will be involved in the Super 14 semi-finals.

“If that is the case – and I am crossing my fingers that they will be – the practice squad will have a different look.”

De Villiers gave the assurance that he had not selected a shadow team for the Test matches against Wales on June 7 and June 14 in Bloemfontein and Pretoria respectively.

“I am certainly still open for persuasion and a bright performance this weekend may convince me whom to use where.”

De Villiers is disappointed about the form that some of last year’s World Cup stars produced in the Super 14 competition but he does not believe they have suddenly become poor players.

“They remain good players and one of the tasks that the coaching staff and I have is to get them back to the level that made them first-choice players last year,” he said.



26 Comments

  • “I am sorry to say so but the reality is that some of our Super 14 franchises do not rotate their top players enough.

    IMO that is beacause we are at the bottom end of the rankings if we had to rank the S14 teams and a team like the Saders will be able to rest players for easiER matches but a team like the Cheetahs or the Lions don’t have that luxury, neither for that matter do the Sharks. Look what the loss of TWO players has done to us. Had Taione and Michalak been fit we would not be sitting chewing our nails right now

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.05.08 06:36:58 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Personally think Pieter is on the right track regarding this. I would like to see the Bokke complete with 30 men on test level against any team. Thats what we should aim for. Think we have more then enough players to be able to do this. Just out of my head
    15 Percy, Jantjes
    Wings: Habana, JP, Chavanga, Twin
    Midfielders: Jean, Steyn, Mossie, Murray
    10s: Grant, Pienaar
    9s: FdP, Januarie, Vermaak
    8 : Spies, Kankowski
    7 : Juan, Wikus
    6 : Schalkie, Watson
    5: Bakkies , Muller
    4: Matfield, Bekker
    3: CJ, BJ
    2: Smit, Bissie, Brits
    1: Guthro, Heinke

    Thats should be his aim, me thinks.

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.05.08 07:56:58 by PaarlBok Reply
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  • Certain of what he says is valid…I just have a nagging feeling he is going to be a Bok coach to challenge Strauli in handing out Bok jerseys like an American hands out candy on Halloween….

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.05.08 08:28:14 by Dive Pass Reply
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  • Err if you select 3 teams there will be no ‘surprise’ selections…

    Bok 30, Saffa ‘A’ and Emerging Boks will do thanks…

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.05.08 08:39:28 by bryce_in_oz Reply
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  • How can I put this nicely…

    It is the doffest idea I have heard come from Peter’s mouth in years.

    TEST RUGBY IS NOT A FINISHING SCHOOL FFS!!!

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.05.08 08:44:16 by MorneN Reply
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  • I think PDV is grossly underestimating the strength of the ‘best’ 22 (not just individual strength either) from each country at the top test level…

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.05.08 08:45:38 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Cream of the crop, best in each position coupled with their team dynamics… there can be only 22 (and backup)…

    Eish the above statement by PDV and the incumbent team-manager now tech analyst… gives me shudders…

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.05.08 08:48:27 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Okay that of my chest now let’s carry on…

    Peter, you will be much better served to ensure or create a system within SA RUgby where your earmarked players are given opportunities in Super 14 and CC rugby and then of course also in Emerging Bok sides.

    The best, the very best plays for the Senior Boks – ALWAYS! You want to create depth, create a system at lower levels, not at test level.

    FFS did Muir’s ‘rotation’ policy not teach you anything?

    Did Graham Henry’s foolish system where their 3 teams could end the World Cup 1, 2 and 3 not teach you this kak does not work? Not at test level.

    Did you buy the Straeuli guide in ‘How to f#$k up the Boks in less than a year’ after your appointment?

    Dof idea, will never support it, never have, and never will.

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.05.08 08:48:33 by MorneN Reply
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  • The AB’s came unstuck with their big squad being able to field two teams at almost any given time and that is with their depth.

    We don’t have that depth I’m afraid.

    I say this with the utmost respect, but I fear PdV will be using this rotation to blood players who shouldn’t be blooded. If it was the 30 players as suggested by PB above then great stuff, but if the press of the last few days is to be believed then players like Maku from the Bulls will suddenly be in the squad ahead of more experienced in form players from the S14.

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.05.08 08:56:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Comment 8, posted at 13.05.08 08:48:33 by MorneN

    Valid point on the Henry comment, was just going to make it myself….

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.05.08 08:57:01 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 8) : You feel strongly about this? :-)

  • Comment 11, posted at 13.05.08 08:58:50 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • I am sorry but the reality is some of our coaches keep opening their mouths to change feet.

    This is dumb.

  • Comment 12, posted at 13.05.08 09:04:20 by yossarian Reply

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  • Rob,

    You could tell??? :lol:

  • Comment 13, posted at 13.05.08 09:22:48 by MorneN Reply
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  • Two things I never want to hear from a coach;

    “I believe in versatile players”

    “I believe in a rotation policy”

    Rugby is mad enough as is with 15 guys on each side (30) trying to play a complex game – now you want 1 guy, or each of your 15 guys to do 15 other guys’ job too? Success depends on specialists who perhaps offer you something additional – but that is a bonus, not a pre-requisite.

    In addition, you play the game to win, rotation goes against this because you are effectively selecting a lesser guy, or a number 2 or 3 ahead of your best player for the sake of rotation – and that is a recipe for disaster and losing in this game. You play the best, always.

    You could perhaps get away with this at CC level, or even S14 but no way in hell you can do this at test level – that is why they call it test rugby and people have their country’s emblems on their jersey’s.

    Absolutely dof in my view.

  • Comment 14, posted at 13.05.08 09:27:34 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 8) : So you think it’s dof? ;)

  • Comment 15, posted at 13.05.08 09:39:16 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 14) : I agree wholeheartedly.

    a player being able to play in a few spots is just a great bonus that you can use to assist with selecting your bench or using the player when you are in an injury bind, but to do the player of all trades stunt as a routine/principal is just not on.

  • Comment 16, posted at 13.05.08 09:39:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 16) : Hey – it’s like you guys actually read my article(s) about this.

  • Comment 17, posted at 13.05.08 09:44:43 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • How long was it? :oops:

  • Comment 18, posted at 13.05.08 09:47:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 18) : at least 8″ ;) 8O

  • Comment 19, posted at 13.05.08 09:49:19 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Sounds fishy to me. Already making excuses for selecting players who are simply not good enough under the banner of ‘building depth’.

  • Comment 20, posted at 13.05.08 09:50:28 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 20) : What are you doing with a picture of AJ strutting his stuff in spandex?

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.05.08 09:51:56 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 21) : Refresh your cache, please? ;)

  • Comment 22, posted at 13.05.08 09:52:54 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • KSA thinks it’s JdV, MorneN thinks it’s AJ. :roll:

    Only thing I know, it’s definitely not me. They don’t make those outfits in XXL. :oops:

  • Comment 23, posted at 13.05.08 09:57:08 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 23) :
    so you’ve enquired?

  • Comment 24, posted at 13.05.08 10:07:04 by Slayton Caville Reply
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  • hehehe Slayton.

    I have not. Really. Promise. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 13.05.08 10:10:03 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • good man!

  • Comment 26, posted at 13.05.08 10:21:05 by Slayton Caville Reply
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