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No Ollie as Stormers make 2 changes


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Stormers, Super 14 on 14 May 2008 at 15:15

Stormers coach Rassie Erasmus has made two changes ahead of his team’s vitally important Super 14 clash against the Lions at Ellis Park on Saturday.

Rugby 365 reports that Erasmus has kept the same backline that drew 13-all with the Waratahs at Newlands last weekend.

It is the forward pack that has been slightly reshuffled. Robbie Diack is replaced by the mobile Pieter Myburgh, who slots into the openside flank position. Luke Watson moves from No.6 to eighthman to accommodate the change.

There is also one personnel change to the front row. Schalk Ferreira is selected to start the match at loosehead prop, with Brian Mujati moving over to his favoured tighthead position.

Brok Harris makes way for the change – he drops to the bench.

It is interesting to note that there is no sign of Ollie le Roux anywhere in the matchday 22, especially after all the publicity there has been over the Bok forward, who trained with the Stormers squad this week.

Coach Erasmus warned that his team were facing a serious challenge from the Gauteng franchise, and said that he expected the battle to rage fiercely in the breakdown.

“The greatest threat of the Lions is not only their breakdown, but also the way they steal on your ball.

“It will be a massive task for not just Piet Myburgh, but for the whole team, to do well at the breakdown.

“But I think that’s his [Myburgh's] strength,” said Erasmus.

Stormers: 15 Conrad Jantjes, 14 Wylie Human, 13 Gcobani Bobo, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain), 11 Sireli Naqelevuki, 10 Peter Grant, 9 Ricky Januarie, 8 Luke Watson, 7 Francois Louw, 6 Pieter Myburgh, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Adriaan Fondse, 3 Brian Mujati, 2 Schalk Brits, 1 Schalk Ferreira.
Replacements: 16 Deon Fourie, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Ross Skeate, 19 Robbie Diack, 20 Bolla Conradie, 21 Tony Brown, 22 Dylan des Fountain.



61 Comments

  • I will be very amazed if Ollie doesn’t travel to Jhb.

  • Comment 1, posted at 14.05.08 15:19:18 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Same here

  • Comment 2, posted at 14.05.08 15:22:25 by Slayton Caville Reply
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  • And me makes three.

  • Comment 3, posted at 14.05.08 15:23:29 by Nessa Reply

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  • If Ollie happens to be going to Jo’burg, it will only be to ‘visit an old friend’ :wink:

  • Comment 4, posted at 14.05.08 15:43:33 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • Or ‘business reasons’. :roll:

  • Comment 5, posted at 14.05.08 15:44:18 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • Well, after Mujati’s miserable performance at loosehead, they need someone who can scrum at 1, and Ollie can certainly do that. The Stormer’s scrum was horrible on Saturday. So is Brock Harris related to Robbie Harris? They are both pretty crappy tighthead props. :wink:

  • Comment 6, posted at 14.05.08 16:57:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 5) : :lol: or to “help out”

  • Comment 7, posted at 14.05.08 17:05:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 6) : :smile:

  • Comment 8, posted at 14.05.08 17:06:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Let’s not forget that the Beast also scrummed Mujati’s head up his arse when the Sharks played the Stormers. Amazing considering that Carstens is twice the scrummager that the Beast is at loosehead.

  • Comment 9, posted at 14.05.08 17:08:15 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : @Slayton Caville (Comment 2) : @Nessa (Comment 3) :

    Yeh we all know Rassie….he changes the side as the run on the field…

  • Comment 10, posted at 14.05.08 17:09:32 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 9) :

    Make no Mistake Mujati is good but it is yet another case of a good player moving to the Stormers and then suddenly becoming EXCELLENT.

    The cape media is pretty influential.

  • Comment 11, posted at 14.05.08 17:12:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Seeing is believing,when it comes to Ollie & Rassie’s “mind games” :yawn:

  • Comment 12, posted at 14.05.08 17:22:32 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 6) : I’m actually a Robbie Harris fan. I feel he really started to come of age in the Currie Cup last year.

    Still a distant 4th behind BJ, Janneman and Pat, though…

  • Comment 13, posted at 14.05.08 17:27:52 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 10) :

    You guys notice I can even count….even though I needed some help from KSA, Clayty and Nessa…

  • Comment 14, posted at 14.05.08 17:29:35 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 11) :

    Imagine if Heinke played for them….LoL

  • Comment 15, posted at 14.05.08 17:30:26 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 11) :

    OK KSA, tell me what Mujati does outside the scrum. Nothing, he is nowhere on the field, no carries worthwhile, and his defense is nothing special. Add that to the fact he is a definitively average scrummager at 3 and a terrible scrummager at 1, how is he even decent?

    I take a line from RobD, he is about 5th in line at tighthead, behind BJ, Jannie, CJ, and yes, Carstens is even a better tighthead than he is, and Carstens is about 1000 times better at every other facet of the game. There are probably other tightheads I would put in front of him, but I am feeling charitable today.

  • Comment 16, posted at 14.05.08 17:36:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Mujati was overrated at the Lions, and now, with the Stormers, it is becoming a terrible joke. I hope he gets nowhere near a Bok jersey, especially since we finally have three world class tightheads in BJ, CJ and Jannie.

  • Comment 17, posted at 14.05.08 17:37:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • The Beast has been doing well at loosehead, but he has the same problem that Gurthro has, they rely 100% on strength, and both being very strong guys, are able to hold their own at loosehead. But watch either Carstens or Heinke scrum, their technique is far better, lower body position, better drive, and they work the tighthead, the Beast and Gurthro just hold the tighthead up with their strength. RobD will remember that I was saying this about Gurthro last season when comparing him to Carstens. Deon and Heinke make life hell for the tighthead, neither the Beast or Gurthro can do that.

  • Comment 18, posted at 14.05.08 17:40:56 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 16) : I wouldn’t go so far as to include Carstens. Ross Geldenhuys, maybe ;)

  • Comment 19, posted at 14.05.08 17:46:30 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 18) : I would seriously consider having both Beast and Deon in the match 22 this week. They both have uncanny strength on the drive and are damn near impossible to bring down. In fact, the least impressive prop on our books this year has been Jannie and he’s hardly done much wrong.

  • Comment 20, posted at 14.05.08 17:51:30 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Off subject, but worth commenting on:

    Am I the only one sad that Justine Henin has announced her retirement?

    Now we’ll all have to brace ourselves for an all-out assault from the Williams trannies – erm, sorry – sisters & the Russian Fembots… :cry:

  • Comment 21, posted at 14.05.08 17:51:30 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Sorry RobD, Carstens is a better tighthead prop than Mujati. His scrummaging is better and he does far more around the field. This is not so much a compliment to Carstens tighthead ability, but rather stating the fact that Mujati is about the most overrated rugby player in the world right now.

    Both Deon and the Beast are awesome around the paddock, but Deon is a better scrummager than the Beast, and puts more pressure on the tighthead. That being said, the Beast has only been playing prop for a few short years, give him another year or two, and he may well be as good or better than Carstens in the scrum. We should start with two props on the bench, but I believe that Carstens and BJ should start and once Carstens has properly f…..cked up the tighthead prop, then bring in the Beast to run them ragged.

  • Comment 22, posted at 14.05.08 17:56:18 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 21) : The Williams sisters took a moment to catch up after playing each other (for the umpteenth time) in the final of a major tournament. Serena said to Venus “ya know, sis, I’m a little concerned about these new supplements Dad has us taking.”
    “Why’s that?” Venus replied.
    “Well, I’m starting to grow hair where I never had it before,” whispered Serena conspiratorially.
    “Like where?” her sister inquired.
    “Like on my balls, for one thing!”

  • Comment 23, posted at 14.05.08 17:58:08 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 22) : Fair comment. Really hard to drop the Beast after the game he had last weekend, though. The strength of the man is just uncanny.

  • Comment 24, posted at 14.05.08 18:01:13 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Venus & p€nis. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 14.05.08 18:02:09 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 25) : :smile:

  • Comment 26, posted at 14.05.08 18:03:38 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 24) :

    We really need to get away from this idea that a player that is a better impact player is “dropped” when playing off the bench. Some players are always going to be super impact players and probably should start on the bench in a majority of games. Other players that have less experience in the skill facets of the game but are excellent around the park are not “dropped” because they play off the bench. That is where they help the team the most, and they are just as important to the team’s success as the starting 15. It is a 22 person team now, not just a 15 person team like in the past.

  • Comment 27, posted at 14.05.08 18:13:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • And yes, the Beast is amazingly strong, but the Sharks will be a better team in this match with Carstens starting and the Beast coming off the bench. In fact, I would dare to say that the Beast may even have a better game than last week playing off the bench. He may have more impact on the game. I believe he will have more impact off the bench.

  • Comment 28, posted at 14.05.08 18:15:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Albert van den Berg is another example, a super lock, but much more impact off the bench than when he starts. His best games are off the bench.

  • Comment 29, posted at 14.05.08 18:15:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Oh, and just because I think that starting Carstens is the best plan does not mean it is going to happen, in fact I would bet it will not. I would bet that Carstens does not even get a spot on the bench. Why did we even bring him on the tour? He only had one full game with the Wildebeeste before the tour. Carstens has kind of been screwed around this year since recovering from the injury.

  • Comment 30, posted at 14.05.08 18:19:39 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 29) : Agree. He just never seems to contribute as much when he starts, although he was very good last weekend

  • Comment 31, posted at 14.05.08 19:32:50 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Albert has had great games starting, but he is not consistent as a starter, he is always good off the bench in my opinion.

    Anyway, the Beast while better off the bench now, is not in the same boat, I don’t think he will always be an impact player, when he becomes a better and more aggressive scrummager, he will be a super starter.

  • Comment 32, posted at 14.05.08 19:39:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • sharks back to their strengths, which is their pack, no surprises back to winning ways with Ackerman and AJ and Bismarck there…whats more surprising is why they were dropped/retired before the end of season.
    damn good win, cheetahs pack with juan and cj back is no pushover at all.

  • Comment 33, posted at 14.05.08 19:40:16 by cab Reply

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  • cab, Ackermann retired of his own accord, so he was not retired by the franchise. I think the Sharks would have loved to have him for the entire season, and tried to keep him, I think it was Ackermann who wanted to retire. AJ didn’t seem to have his head in the game for the first half of the season. It just didn’t seem like he wanted to be there. Perhaps he was upset because he felt he should have been captain instead of Muller, but I don’t know. Interestingly since Muller has been hurt or missed games, AJ has stepped up, and last week played an excellent game. I didn’t see the stats but he had to be one of the Sharks top tacklers, he was a demon on defense. I was a little surprised the CJ let himself get shoved around by the Beast.

  • Comment 34, posted at 14.05.08 19:45:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 34) : CJ isn’t a great scrummager. I must say, I don’t really rate him as a great tighthead. Good wing!

  • Comment 35, posted at 14.05.08 20:13:03 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 35) :

    You might be right, he certainly does not do more around the field than Carstens, so why is he always ahead of Carstens for the Boks at loosehead. I thought he was a good scrummaging loosehead, perhaps not as good at tighthead, but most props are not as good at their second position.

  • Comment 36, posted at 14.05.08 20:15:02 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • oh right DB, well i cant understand how they keep enticing him back when panic stations, defnitely last season for he and AJ, but Ackers is key, i dont see how can replace him really, sykes is still a season off that presence at least.
    Beast has been a revelation, but its BJ who’s still the power in the scrums i reckon, but reckon beast-bj-bismarck are one of the best frontrows in the comp.

  • Comment 37, posted at 14.05.08 20:15:44 by cab Reply

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  • cab, agree. But read my posts up top, I think Carstens is a better scrummager than the Beast, and a Carstens/Bismarck/BJ front row is about as good as one will get in SA.

    Could not agree with you more about Ackers he is still a key to the Sharks pack, and there is not another lock around to fill his shoes at the Sharks. Perhaps Sykes in a year or two.

  • Comment 38, posted at 14.05.08 20:18:24 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 16) :

    Hey DB

    You seem to have missed me. :wink: i think Mujati is good/average, but don’t think he is great at all. he has a lot of media hype around him created by the CT press force. Had he stayed at the lions he would have half the attention he has now.

  • Comment 39, posted at 14.05.08 20:24:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • off subject but who cares. i have just had an awesome Asian buffet. Asian food to die for. :cool:

    Just a REAL PITY I can’t get myself to try Sushi. (even the veg only ones) :oops:

  • Comment 40, posted at 14.05.08 20:26:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 39) : Cape Town press over hyping average players? Never! :oops:

  • Comment 41, posted at 14.05.08 20:26:57 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) : ah – you’ll LOVE it if you do!

  • Comment 42, posted at 14.05.08 20:28:49 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 42) :

    not a great veg or seafood man. :sad: Love the spicy asian food though. :cool:

  • Comment 43, posted at 14.05.08 20:33:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • http://www.oasisresorts.net/restaurant/kodo.htm

  • Comment 44, posted at 14.05.08 20:34:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Fish & chips. Washed down with gin & tonic. :cool:

  • Comment 45, posted at 14.05.08 20:39:54 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 45) :

    Fish and chips YES
    G & T :ugh: Spiced Gold and Coke!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 46, posted at 14.05.08 20:41:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 21) : Me2 :!:

  • Comment 47, posted at 14.05.08 22:40:53 by Me2 Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 35) : :lol: @ Rob!!

  • Comment 48, posted at 14.05.08 22:45:52 by Me2 Reply

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  • I seldom get the chance to come on here during the day and enjoy catching up on various opinions after I have seen to my cooking duties etc.
    Rob, this answer thingie is great!!!

  • Comment 49, posted at 14.05.08 22:50:31 by Me2 Reply

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  • @Me2 (Comment 49) : glad you like it!

  • Comment 50, posted at 14.05.08 22:53:46 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Don’t you think that maybe all the hype about the Beast and Mujati is because SA rugby needs Black players in other positions other than on the wing. Don’t get me wrong both players obviously have their talents and the Beast is improving week by week, but SA Rugby desperately need to develop Black players in other positions. Not too sure how many 2m tall Black talent there is out there but it would help.

  • Comment 51, posted at 14.05.08 23:57:59 by Dynamite Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) :
    Was anti sushi for the longest time(i LOVE seafood) but im slowly starting to soften my stance.

  • Comment 52, posted at 15.05.08 07:28:05 by Slayton Caville Reply
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  • @Dynamite (Comment 51) : It would be so typical of the window-dressing sham that passes for “transformation” in SA Rugby if we took two essentially “developed” players from the top school in Zimbabwe and paraded them around as poster children to disguise SARU’s failures. Pathetic.

    No, to my mind, Beast and Brian are both just rugby players. Let’s evaluate them as such.

  • Comment 53, posted at 15.05.08 09:14:43 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Slayton Caville (Comment 52) : C’mon – a sophisticated man of the world (I hesitate to say metrosexual) like you should LOVE sushi!

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.05.08 09:21:13 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 53) :

    Top post mate!

  • Comment 55, posted at 15.05.08 09:30:28 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 55) : Not just a pretty face, eh? ;)

  • Comment 56, posted at 15.05.08 09:38:46 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Good morning all.

    TT – if you are around this morning, Happy Birthday to you!!

  • Comment 57, posted at 15.05.08 09:42:39 by Nessa Reply

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  • Geez – all these Taurus people around. :wink:

  • Comment 58, posted at 15.05.08 09:46:27 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 58) : My little one turns 3 tomorrow! Can’t believe it.

  • Comment 59, posted at 15.05.08 10:04:57 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 56) :

    Don’t know about that hey… :lol:

    Well…when SARU went on and on about transformation…I didn’t know they meant “CITIZENSHIPS”…trying to steal credit from the Dept. of Home Affairs for “making” more Boks of colour…

    Anyway…just remembered we are not into discussing “office stuff” around here so that’s that…

    Rob- have you ever thought of having the POLL option on the site?

  • Comment 60, posted at 15.05.08 10:13:14 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 59) :

    I remember she is the same age as my granddaughter who will be 3 on 10 June. They are little ladies already.

  • Comment 61, posted at 15.05.08 10:22:41 by Nessa Reply

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