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Muir faces semi selection posers


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Sharks, Super 14 on 19 May 2008 at 17:59

Sharks coach Dick Muir has some interesting selections to make ahead of the Super 14 semifinal against the Waratahs in Sydney next Saturday.

His rampant team crushed the Chiefs 47-25 in Durban last Saturday to set up a semifinal against the ‘Tahs.

Rugby 365 reports that Muir now faces some welcome selection problems, with most of his players close to returning to fitness, and no clear indications as to his most potent combinations.

The expansive running game the Sharks unveiled against the Chiefs has brought a new dimension to their armoury, and will have thrown all pre-existing ideas about the first-choice fifteen into disarray.

The Sharks have the option of using Tongan import Epi Taione in the play-off match after he completed his six-match ban for headbutting.

The Sharks and Taione have an interesting dynamic at the moment. The big Tongan utility player only had 25 minutes of Super 14 game time for the Durban franchise, before his gross indiscretion against the Hurricanes earned him a SANZAR citing which resulted in a lengthy ban.

It also incurred the wrath of Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl, who tore up Taione’s pay-as-you-play contract.

But it seems that Taione has been forgiven, and he could yet make a positive contribution to the Sharks in the play-offs.

Coach Muir will have to decide between Taione and AJ Venter for the blindside flank berth.

Another selection choice for Muir will come in the front row. Muir will have to pick one of two Springbok props, Jannie Du Plessis or BJ Botha, to wear the No.3 jersey on Saturday.

Botha missed the Chiefs match, but has been included in the tour group, which indicates that he is close to returning to action.

More posers await in the backline.

Frans Steyn damaged a rib cartilage in the Sharks’ 33-14 win against the Cheetahs two weekends ago. Steyn was also absent from the win over the Chiefs, but his injury should clear up in time for him to be available for semifinal selection.

The talented Springbok back has floated around in the Sharks backline this year, and has played at fullback, centre and flyhalf. Steyn has expressed on occasion that flyhalf is his preferred position, but the fact remains that Ruan Pienaar did a fine job at pivot on Saturday.

Muir’s selection at flyhalf will be crucial come Saturday. Picking Steyn at 10 could be a risk, especially after Pienaar’s fine display against the Chiefs.

The coach certainly has yet interesting puzzle to solve in midfield, after the combination of Ruan Pienaar, Adrian Jacobs and Brad Barritt really got the Sharks backline buzzing on Saturday.

Muir will have to make a big call with respect to the centre pairing as well, as the competition in that area has heated up significantly with another Springbok, forgotten man Waylon Murray, also in contention.

Captain Johan Muller came through the match after recovering from a calf injury that kept him out for a few weeks.

Meanwhile, Muir has admitted that he should have instructed the Sharks to play more expansively earlier in the Super 14 tournament.

Muir was a relieved man after the result and took much satisfaction in the fact that the Sharks made the semifinal, considering that they almost made a hash of it over the closing weeks.

“It just shows that maybe we were too conservative at times and I’ll take the blame for our conservative style,” he conceded.

“Maybe we overplayed that card, that conditions did not warrant an exciting approach, but we certainly have a group of players that can play, and against the Chiefs, it was nice to see them scoring long-distance tries. The passing and defence was outstanding as well.”

Muir looked back at the season, and explained that he chose the conservative style of play, because the team had lost some experience with the departure of key players such as Butch James and John Smit.

“This is such an amazing tournament,” he added. “You go through different phases and have to adapt, make bold calls and move on. I’m not embarrassed to say we were too conservative at times.

“We lost some really experienced personnel at the end of last season and the way we played probably didn’t allow players to grow as well as we would have liked, but it was good to see their confidence in this match.”

Muir, who will leave the Sharks at the end of this Super 14 campaign to join the Springbok management team as assistant coach, paid tribute to two young players who have had to adapt to new roles, according to the official Sharks website.

At one stage Ruan Pienaar was the incumbent at scrumhalf, but such was the form of import Rory Kockott who himself had to work hard to make the No.9 jersey his own, so Pienaar found himself sidelined.

But the injury to Frederic Michalak necessitated some reshuffling Pienaar certainly showed against the Chiefs that he had a big contribution to make at flyhalf.

“Ruan has come in and done an amazing job,” said Muir. “It’s the quality of the player, he’s so versatile and so dedicated making sure he gets the tackles in despite criticism over his defence. He has worked incredibly hard on his game.

“Rory is a nuggety player, and showed how difficult he is to play against.”

With the closing stages of his Sharks coaching stint fast approaching, Muir looked back on his tenure and wished his successors well. He also reiterated his desire to end on a high, and win some silverware with the Sharks.

“Looking back I am pleased that the whole group has grown,” he said.

“We have an unbelievable management team and great players. I probably didn’t give them enough respect in allowing them to express themselves, but for the group to continue to grow, this is the right time for Grant Bashford and John Plumtree to take over.”

“We have unfinished business. It will only be complete if we bring the silverware home.”



94 Comments

  • Surely Frans must play off the bench? The diff in the last 2 weeks has, I’m afraid to say, him not being there.

  • Comment 1, posted at 19.05.08 21:16:17 by HerbShark Reply
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  • @HerbShark (Comment 1) : Agree, Herb. It would be madness to change the backline now.

    Welcome to the site, BTW.

  • Comment 2, posted at 19.05.08 22:08:00 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Merci buckets. I’m ashamed to admit it but *gasp* I used to sometimes read keo.co.za… :oops:

  • Comment 3, posted at 19.05.08 22:20:29 by HerbShark Reply

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  • @HerbShark (Comment 3) : Don’t we all. I still comment there occasionally, but mostly just to stir ;)

  • Comment 4, posted at 19.05.08 22:48:15 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Rob…you still there??

    Just to let u guys know….Milissa had an awesome time at the game on Saturday! and she realy chose the right one to come out to….the crowd was fantastic and the game…..well….words fail me!!! :grin:
    After the game she met most of the guys as they were leaving and they signed her shirt, and had photos taken with them…your truly was the photographer :roll:
    I heard her tell her future m-in-law what a fab time she had had,and that she was definately heading back this way later this year.

    Unfortunately, shortly after the game ended, she received a message that her gran had died that afternoon, I’m sure you guys will all think of her, as she heads home.

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.05.08 23:00:09 by Me2 Reply

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  • Welcome to the site Herb.

    Am waiting with interest to see from your pic if your name is Herb or if you are implying to the leafy kind :wink:

  • Comment 6, posted at 20.05.08 05:40:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Hope the team stays the same with Steyn off the bench… AJ has a point to prove… whether he has it in him is another thing (starting to run far too upright in his old age)… Hope Deysel gets more time… really not sure what to do with Epi… probably shouldn’t even use him…

  • Comment 7, posted at 20.05.08 06:14:22 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 7) :

    I hope the same regarding the team, but think taione will be valuable with his contribution.

    Yes he has cocked up TWICE and cocked up BIG TIME on both occasions, but in between he played a great RWC and a great season in Japan where he was MOTM on quite a few occasions.

    His indiscretions may have been big but they are not regular.

    I say, use him off the bench.

  • Comment 8, posted at 20.05.08 06:40:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • As what KSA?

  • Comment 9, posted at 20.05.08 08:45:31 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • As Lossie or center cover.

    On one of the thread yesterday I mentioned that I would like him and Burden on the bench. it gives us great forward cover with better back cover.

  • Comment 10, posted at 20.05.08 08:48:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Thos is the team I suggested yesterday.

    If Steyn is injured for the weekend

    1. Tendai Mtawarira
    2. Bismarck du Plessis
    3. Jannie du Plessis
    4. Steven Sykes
    5. Johann Muller
    6. Jacques Botes
    7. AJ Venter
    8. Ryan Kankowski
    9. Rory Kockott
    10. Ruan Pienaar
    11. JP Pietersen
    12. Brad Barritt
    13. Adi Jacobs
    14. Odwa Ndungane
    15. Stefan Terblanche

    Bench
    16. Craig Burden (Forward and back Cover)
    17. BJ Botha
    18. Albert van den Berg
    19. Jean Deysel
    20. Keegan Daniel
    21. Epi Taione (Forward and back Cover)
    22. Waylon Murray

    If Steyn is fit then he replaces Epi or Murray

    After this comment rob suggested we leave Daniel out if Steyn is fit. I tend to agree.

  • Comment 11, posted at 20.05.08 08:55:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Ditto…

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.05.08 09:03:04 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • We lost the games against the Brumbies and the Tahs in the loose and at the breakdown. We have to get the right balance with our loosies and our game plan right for this aspect of the game.

    That is why Epi is back in the mix to add muscle to match Palu and Elsom. AJ has to up his game even further this week to be at his physical best. Kanko and Botes are not physical enough and if AJ doesn’t fire well on his own, he need to get the likes of Deysel and Epi on. Despite his 2 tries in the open Chiefs game I might be tempted to start Deysel ahead of Kanko and then bring Ryan on in the second half.

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.05.08 13:15:34 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 13) : Sacrilege. But I sort of agree.

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.05.08 13:22:34 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 13) :

    In fact Gary Tiechmann sees Kanko as supersub for the Boks, with them starting with Spies

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.05.08 13:22:53 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 11) :
    Yeah, Steyn would be a more than able loose (check spelling) forward replacement. :wink:

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.05.08 13:23:46 by Cru-El (BABVA) Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 13) :

    The other thing is Botes doesn’t come any where matching Waugh on turn overs….we have to work a way to counter that.

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.05.08 13:24:39 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Cru-El (BABVA) (Comment 16) :

    Hey that was a good match for the Crusaders over the weekend hey? ;)

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.05.08 13:25:33 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 17) : counter rucking… And not getting isolated at the tackle

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.05.08 13:28:33 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 19) :

    Ja Rob that is definitely part of the solution

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.05.08 13:30:05 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Cru-El (BABVA) (Comment 16) :

    spelling is correct. :wink:

    No man IF he does replace Epi or Daniel it would still give you a 5 – 2 split on the bench. which would be fine IMO.

    BUT

    I have since changed my mind and it MUST now be Daniel who he replaces.

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.05.08 13:31:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 20) : we don’t have somebody who can counter Waugh on the ground.

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.05.08 13:32:10 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 19) :

    And a 128KG Tongan should clean pretty well at the rucks.

    Waugh may find it difficult turning balls over when he is lying flat on his backside after being cleaned at a ruck.

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.05.08 13:33:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 22) :

    but we can squash him like a bug.

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.05.08 13:34:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 18) :
    :mrgreen:
    It can only get better.

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.05.08 13:35:38 by Cru-El Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 22) :
    @KSA Shark © (Comment 23) :

    The Bok solution when we ain’t winning the ball on the ground….I like

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.05.08 13:38:02 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • I will not be very popular for this…but if Steyn is really fit I would go for…

    1. Beast
    2. Bissy
    3. BJ
    4. Sykes
    5. Muller
    6. JB
    7. AJ
    8. Kanko
    9. Kockott
    10.Pienaar
    11. JP
    12. Brad
    13. Steyn
    14. Odwa
    15. Stefan

    Bench
    16. Burden
    17. Jannie
    18. v d Berg
    19. Deysel
    20. Epi
    21. Adi
    22. Waylon

    Reasons…

    -When we get our first scrum…I want BJ there…
    -AJ looked like a man on a mission last week …here comes the sequel…
    -Keegan can watch this from the stands…(Paddy owes us BIG TIME)
    -I trust Adi more than Steyn as an impact player :mrgreen:
    -Deysel had a decent spell on Sat but I need tries…and Kanko delivers…and if he can’t…he delivers :wink:

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.05.08 13:39:56 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 23) : Has Epi gained weight?

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.05.08 13:40:14 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 27) : some BIG calls… ok, only one BIG call. Adi ahead of Steyn. I can see your reasoning, but can’t say I agree with it.

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.05.08 13:42:01 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 27) :
    R U outa your mind, Marcus?
    #13 – Whoo-sa!

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.05.08 13:46:30 by Cru-El Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 27) :

    Kanko revealed in the open space we achieved through complete forward domination. We would never have been able to play the game we did against them if they had had 2 decent props and Lauaki up against us.

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.05.08 13:46:36 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 28) :

    Sorry 123kg tongan. :oops:

    EPI TAIONE
    Position: Loose Forward
    Physical: 1.93m; 123kg
    Born: 02.03.79, Kapa (Tonga)

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.05.08 13:47:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 27) :

    Happy with all but would start Adi ahead of Steyn.

    You don’t want to play catch-up rugby and RELY on your supersubs to win you the game. They need to come on and help you close it out. (as was doen this weekend)

    You don’t want the supersub coming on with MUST SCORE pressure (as we had to in the earlier rounds)

  • Comment 33, posted at 20.05.08 13:50:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 32) : 5kg is a lot of red meat to wolf down in one sitting ;)

  • Comment 34, posted at 20.05.08 13:53:41 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 33) : thank you. That would’ve been my next point.

  • Comment 35, posted at 20.05.08 13:54:43 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Kanko is not a one hit wonder…he’s probably been the most consistent Sharks player this season…and if the Tahs think they will push him around —good luck to them…bacause he’s not a banana.

    And let me stress that for this plan to work AJ will have to play his heart out. He’s not the biggest around…but if he’s up to it he can create the space that Kanko needs to operate.

    I trust our tight 5 … period.

  • Comment 36, posted at 20.05.08 13:56:06 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 36) :

    Kanko is a one hit wonder.

    When he tackles you you wonder which ONE of the Sharks HIT you

  • Comment 37, posted at 20.05.08 13:58:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Who was it who bounced AJ so hard in one of the matches when he went into the tackle so upright.

    Wasn’t it the Tahs

  • Comment 38, posted at 20.05.08 13:59:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) :

    Yip…..Palu

  • Comment 39, posted at 20.05.08 14:03:34 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 33) :

    Well…you might as well start getting used to it now…because if Steyn is fit he will be wearing a jersey on Sat and the number on his back will start with the digit 1…

  • Comment 40, posted at 20.05.08 14:03:50 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • Bad Barrit put in a moer-of-a-tackle on a Chiefs player over the weekend.

  • Comment 41, posted at 20.05.08 14:05:41 by Cru-El Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) : it was Palu

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.05.08 14:07:08 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Cru-El (Comment 41) : It was Callum Bruce.

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.05.08 14:07:48 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Cru-El (Comment 41) :

    Bad Barritt? :mrgreen: Are you trying to start a fight with Rob?

    I guess it’s PALU 1 – AJ nil then…

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.05.08 14:11:36 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) : And it was soon thereafter that the wheels started coming off.

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.05.08 14:13:22 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I think we are running the risk of focusing too much on one player here…

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.05.08 14:15:46 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • No team should take the field without Barrit in their side :!:

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.05.08 14:19:38 by Cru-El Reply

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  • @Cru-El (Comment 47) :
    Just to focus some more :lol:

  • Comment 48, posted at 20.05.08 14:20:22 by Cru-El Reply

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  • Have ALWAYS thought that there is room in the Bok squad for Kanko AND Spies. Spies is about out-and-out power, Kanko is about pace and elusiveness. Danie Roussouw was absolutely kak at 8 in the RWC, so I think we need a little depth there at test level. What if Spies pops a lung again mid-season (not being nasty, but seriously it’s possible)?

  • Comment 49, posted at 20.05.08 14:21:17 by Waz Reply

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  • @Cru-El (Comment 47) :

    sucking up to ROB?? :shock:

  • Comment 50, posted at 20.05.08 14:21:40 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Okay – I am back. What did I miss now?

  • Comment 51, posted at 20.05.08 14:22:42 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Cru-El (Comment 47) :

    Geez Cru – trying to score some brownie points? :wink:

  • Comment 52, posted at 20.05.08 14:23:29 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Waz (Comment 49) :

    I don’t know about “popping a lung” :twisted: but i think Kanko would complement spies rather well. I mean what’s the point of having the “same’ player on the field and on the bench?

  • Comment 53, posted at 20.05.08 14:25:46 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 45) :

    @Dive Pass (Comment 39) :

    Good so now AJ can use that to get himself mentally prepared for this match

  • Comment 54, posted at 20.05.08 14:26:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 52) :

    He’s trying too hard, ain’t he?

  • Comment 55, posted at 20.05.08 14:27:24 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • Hey Waz.

  • Comment 56, posted at 20.05.08 14:28:32 by Nessa Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 55) :

    BS – I think Rob will see right through him… :wink:

  • Comment 57, posted at 20.05.08 14:29:02 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 55) :

    Yup – don’t know what was in his porridge this morning.

  • Comment 58, posted at 20.05.08 14:29:14 by Nessa Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 54) :

    My thoughts exactly…

    You reckon this will be a high or low scoring game?

  • Comment 59, posted at 20.05.08 14:29:23 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 53) : Yup, fully agree there!

    There’s no doubt that Spies is world class, and can take on the monsters like Lauaki at their own game. I’m just hoping that PdV is wise enough to bring Kanko into the squad too.

  • Comment 60, posted at 20.05.08 14:32:03 by Waz Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 56) : Hello :)

  • Comment 61, posted at 20.05.08 14:33:10 by Waz Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 59) :

    2 MAYBE 3 tries each IMO

  • Comment 62, posted at 20.05.08 14:34:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 59) : Don’t see big scores stacking up against the ‘Tahs unless both teams play a very open game.

    Both sides are strong defenders and will not easily concede lots of tries.

  • Comment 63, posted at 20.05.08 14:36:51 by Waz Reply

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  • @Waz (Comment 60) :

    PvD had better put Kanko in or I am going to have to go there and hurt him!

  • Comment 64, posted at 20.05.08 14:36:56 by Nessa Reply

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  • On current form no coach would not have Kanko in their squad.

  • Comment 65, posted at 20.05.08 14:36:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Change of gameplan (and mindset) VS Change of personnel (more especially Steyn) …

    on a 100% split…how much did each contribute towards the Sharks performance last weekend?

    I think

    Change of gameplan 80%
    Change of squad 5%
    Home crowd 15%

  • Comment 66, posted at 20.05.08 14:37:33 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 65) :

    Agree with you there sweets! :wink:

  • Comment 67, posted at 20.05.08 14:39:05 by Nessa Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 54) :
    Agreed , just as the loss to the Tahs must serve as a motivational factor as opposed to a psychological stumbling block – ditto to the Canes.

  • Comment 68, posted at 20.05.08 14:39:39 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Waz (Comment 49) :

    Thinking Boks….assuming all are fit, it is Juan and Schalk, no question s asked, so that leaves the 8th man spot and it is interesting that a Sharks director, who himself was one of the great Bok no 8s has Spies ahead of Kanko as a starter but Kanko as a supersub.

    Kanko is brilliant and without peer on attack but he is weak when he runs into a bit of a beef around the fringes and his tackling leaves alot to be desired.

  • Comment 69, posted at 20.05.08 14:41:38 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 69) :

    Of course we still have to make place for Lobberts ;)

  • Comment 70, posted at 20.05.08 14:42:56 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 62) :

    @Waz (Comment 63) :

    It might come down to kicking … and I trust Kockott over Beale… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 71, posted at 20.05.08 14:43:53 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • Ice, Nessa – behave.

  • Comment 72, posted at 20.05.08 14:44:42 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 69) :

    @Dive Pass (Comment 70) :

    I have just put up an article where Peter bills says this is the time to play Watson. :evil:

  • Comment 73, posted at 20.05.08 14:45:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Spies is a poor man’s Kankowski.

    Spies is abviously the better athlete but rugby is about more than the physical thankfully.

    Anybody who picks Spies over Kanko needs their head read especially in the light of the fact that he has hardly touched a ball this year.

    Talented – doubtless. But starter above Kanko – you gotta be kidding me.

  • Comment 74, posted at 20.05.08 14:46:07 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 73) :

    I sort of agree with that to a degree.

    Dont think he should nail down a starting berth as yet but he definitely should get a look in at this point.

  • Comment 75, posted at 20.05.08 14:47:17 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 75) :

    Play him against Italy by all means but not against a major union.

    We have better players than him and why should ANY player be given a chance just for the sake of it.

  • Comment 76, posted at 20.05.08 14:49:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 76) :

    Squad rotation? Its one helluva long season.

  • Comment 77, posted at 20.05.08 14:54:44 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 76) :

    Just for the sake of it?….He is a previously disadvantaged player…. under White ;)

  • Comment 78, posted at 20.05.08 14:55:32 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 78) :

    …and he’s had a decent season…against players from major unions…

  • Comment 79, posted at 20.05.08 14:58:06 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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    I dont advocate “giving him a chance” by any means.

    I think he’s good enough to play. Especialyl with Burger injured.

  • Comment 80, posted at 20.05.08 14:59:00 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 69) : You think so DP? My impression has been that Kanko is relatively strong on defense: he has put in some very solid tackles this season, especially on opposing loosies. Problem with me is that I don’t remember things at the level of detail that you guys seem to, so I can’t drop any names. :razz:

    I’ve often felt we’re a bit weak at the breakdown (most of the time). Is this mostly attributable to the way our loose-forwards play, or just a general problem with the pack committing to the ruck and protecting the ball?

  • Comment 81, posted at 20.05.08 14:59:49 by Waz Reply

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  • You have to forgive KSA guys. Sometimes he gets confused and thinks he grew up in Pretoria… :wink:

  • Comment 82, posted at 20.05.08 15:00:09 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 79) :

    Decent but not in the same class as Juan, Schalk, Kanko, Spies and others

  • Comment 83, posted at 20.05.08 15:01:07 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Waz (Comment 81) : you drink a lot during games? ;)

  • Comment 84, posted at 20.05.08 15:03:57 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Schalk is injured…

    Spies might pop a lung…just kidding…but I honestly think Shorty has done enough to earn a run…

  • Comment 85, posted at 20.05.08 15:04:03 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 84) :

    I think you’ve just diagnosed me… :lol:

  • Comment 86, posted at 20.05.08 15:04:52 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 82) :

    JA!!!!!!!!!!!!

    [email protected] JULLE EK LOOP NOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 87, posted at 20.05.08 15:05:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Waz (Comment 81) :

    I find he tenders to hang onto the players very high and they get a good couple of metres with him dangling on them…..please don’t get me wrong I think Kanko adds a dimension on attack that very few of our backs can match and I hope he wears black and white until he is old and grey.

  • Comment 88, posted at 20.05.08 15:07:13 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • F.J.E.O.L.N!
    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 89, posted at 20.05.08 15:09:55 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 89) : Totsiens

  • Comment 90, posted at 20.05.08 15:10:59 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Glad you knew what that was all about Rob. :lol:

  • Comment 91, posted at 20.05.08 15:28:00 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 91) : well, he had the “O” in the wrong place, but I managed to piece it together ;)

  • Comment 92, posted at 20.05.08 15:34:47 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 88) : Yeah, that’s actually a pretty fair assessment. I suppose it’s very easy to become enamoured of players that attack very well.

  • Comment 93, posted at 20.05.08 15:50:28 by Waz Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 89) :

    :?:

    :smile:

  • Comment 94, posted at 20.05.08 15:55:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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