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Rassie’s raid on Free State


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Cheetahs, In the news, Stormers, Super 14 on 20 May 2008 at 14:37

Free State face a battle keeping two of their best young players in Bloemfontein as Western Province director of rugby Rassie Erasmus has his sights fixed firmly on 23-year-old Springbok Meyer Bosman and 21-year-old No 8 Duanne Vermeulen.

Free State president Harold Verster may have been successful in persuading Cheetahs captain Juan Smith to extend his contract with the union, but after the 60-20 humiliation suffered against the Bulls in their last game of the Super 14, Bosman and Vermeulen could be on their way to the Cape.

Dale Granger writes in Cape Argus that World Cup-winning Springbok captain John Smit’s immediate future is unclear as it appears the Sharks are sticking with Bismarck du Plessis as their first-choice hooker.

But Percy Montgomery could be heading back from France, where he played for Perpignan, for a fairytale Currie Cup swansong with Western Province, the union he started with in 1996.

The French club have apparently agreed to release Montgomery and within a few days the SACS old boy could be back in his home town.

Western Province managing director Rob Wagner said Erasmus would make the decision on the contracting of players and if Montgomery did play out his final season with Western Province, it would be in a role similar to that of All Black flyhalf Tony Brown, who was with the Stormers.

By early this week neither Bosman nor Vermeulen had extended their contracts with Free State, while both weighed up offers to sign for Western Province.

In 2005 Bosman came off the bench as a substitute at Loftus to score the try that won Free State the Currie Cup for the first time in 29 years. It was a fairytale for Erasmus in his first season of top-flight coaching and Bosman went on to be selected for the Springboks’ end-of-year tour to Europe and played against Wales and France.

This year the 21-year-old Vermeulen caught the eye in the early stages of the Super 14 as one of the outstanding South African No 8s in the competition.

Springboks Pierre Spies and Ryan Kankowski may be ahead of Vermeulen in the pecking order, but both are contracted by the Sharks and the Bulls until 2010 and are regarded as two of the biggest young stars in South African rugby.

Vermeulen, who worked with Erasmus in the Free State squad last year, may feel – along with Bosman – that the balance of power in South African rugby is shifting and that WP and the Stormers will feature more prominently than in recent seasons.

Erasmus’ interest in Vermeulen suggests that switching Luke Watson from openside flanker to No 8 was not a success for the Cape side this season.

This was particularly evident against the Lions at Ellis Park on Saturday when the Stormers consistently lost lineouts through poor throwing, but also without having a quality jumper at the tail of the lineout with Watson, Francois Louw and Pieter Myburgh making up the loose trio.

The Stormers used Schalk Burger in the lineout extensively before he injured his knee and in Vermeulen they would have a No 8 who, at 1.93m tall, would give them an added option in this vital setpiece.

But that will be for Allister Coetzee to decide. As expected, Coetzee was on Monday named as WP Currie Cup coach and will take charge of the team as Erasmus steps into his director of rugby role until next year’s Super 14.

Western Province have yet to name a replacement for last year’s Currie Cup coach, Gary Gold, who was an assistant with the Stormers and has now joined the Springboks’ coaching team.

They will also have to find a new physiotherapist to replace Rene Lombard, who has also joined the Springboks.



98 Comments

  • It seems he has become Ra$$ie Era$mu$ al right.

    Where is the WP union getting all this money from suddenly?

  • Comment 1, posted at 20.05.08 14:41:01 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • ja I thought they were in deep finacial “merde”…

    Smit, Percy, AJ will not come cheap, AND then there is also the acquisition of De Waal, Vermeulen & Bosman. Mega $$$.

    Sheesh, after years of raiding from their “parent province” Natal, now poor Free State have to deal with Rassie’s poaching. So I guess we can rule Free State out of a CC final this year…

    Now just one more question…what the hell of WP going to do with ALL these players? :shock: :?:

  • Comment 2, posted at 20.05.08 14:47:24 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 2) :

    excess players will be recycled to the Cheetahs………..

  • Comment 3, posted at 20.05.08 14:50:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Quinny, I dont think that they are buying that many new players, of course baring in mind this is all specualtion at this point, especially wrt de Waal, Smit, PErcy etc.

    As for the finacnes, I think a good showing in the s14 this year will have brought in loads of cash in gate takings (sell-outs every week) and I’m sure it’ll go a long way in sponsorship negotaitions.

  • Comment 4, posted at 20.05.08 14:51:48 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • It must be a nice feeling for Rassie to be the one being accused of buying the Cheetahs’ players rather than being the accuser. :wink:

  • Comment 5, posted at 20.05.08 14:52:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :

    The Lions…

  • Comment 6, posted at 20.05.08 14:53:02 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Can we believe this? ….this is Granger talking.

  • Comment 7, posted at 20.05.08 14:53:15 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Or the Bulls coem to think of it.

    How else did we rid ourselves of Hougaard, Lobberts etc.

    Although they still got a good deal – we gave the Lions Earl rose and Jac v Schalkwyk….

  • Comment 8, posted at 20.05.08 14:53:57 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :

    What provinces does Wyle Human still have to play for ? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 20.05.08 14:54:53 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 9) :

    The Sharks? :shock: :shock: :shock:

  • Comment 10, posted at 20.05.08 14:57:27 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • So I see we have the “power is shifting” bollocks again. Man, but these guys love blowing smoke up their own asses.

    Good luck in the semis, Stormers!

  • Comment 11, posted at 20.05.08 14:58:25 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 10) : nope – he’s played for us already

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.05.08 14:58:44 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 10) :

    No no, rest assured he has been in a Sharks squad – Super 12 I think, quite a few years back…

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.05.08 14:58:45 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 9) :

    Us I think. (HEAVEN FORBID)

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.05.08 14:59:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • In anycase, WE send our players to Western Province, not the other way round – unless they want to send us Grant & Bekker…

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.05.08 14:59:49 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Someone please tell Rassie to get the hell out of our rugby nursery :smile:
    These guys only produce so many quality players and we need them all.

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.05.08 15:00:44 by yossarian Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 7) :

    This is silly season.

    There is an article on RW that says Rassie has pinpointed wing and front row as the problem areas and he will be looking at CJ and Heinke etc.

    If we put all the articles together rassie will be buying a whole new team :wink:

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.05.08 15:01:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Where are all the prop names???
    Surely thats at the top of the shopping list.

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.05.08 15:01:14 by molly Reply
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  • Brace yourself for the Wyle’s squad history…

    2008
    Vodacom WP (Vodacom Cup)
    Vodacom Stormers (Vodacom Super 14)
    2007
    Golden Lions XV (Absa Currie Cup Compulsory Friendlies)
    Golden Lions (ABSA Currie Cup Premier Div)
    Lions (Vodacom Super 14)
    2006
    Lions (ABSA Currie Cup Premier Division)
    Lions (Vodacom Cup)
    Cats (Vodacom Super 14)
    2005
    Lions (ABSA Currie Cup Premier Division)
    Lions (ABSA Currie Cup Qualifying Round)
    2004
    Leopards (Vodacom Cup)
    2003
    Mobil Blue Bulls (ABSA Reserve Division Final)
    Mobil Blue Bulls (ABSA Reserve Div A)
    Mobil Blue Bulls (ABSA Currie Cup – Premier Div.)
    Sharks (Vodacom Super 12)
    2002
    Blue Bulls (Bankfin Currie Cup)
    Bulls (Vodacom Super 12)
    2001
    South Africa A (SA A tour to Europe)
    Vodacom Free State Cheetahs (Bankfin Currie Cup)
    Cats (Vodacom Super 12)
    2000
    Vodacom Free State Cheetahs (Bankfin Currie Cup)
    South Africa U/21 (South Hem. U21)
    South Africa U/23 (African Rugby Champs)
    Vodacom Cheetahs (Vodacom Cup)
    SA Sevens to Paris 2000 (IRB Sevens France)
    1999
    South Africa U/21 (South Hem. U21)
    Eastern Province (Vodacom Cup)
    1998
    Eastern Province U/21 (Bankfin Under 21)

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.05.08 15:01:36 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 15) :

    Well Grant is ours, he is just there until he graduates to big time rugby and that should be anyday now. :wink:

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.05.08 15:02:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • CJ van der Linde is rumoured to be signing for Leinster in Ireland…

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.05.08 15:02:26 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 19) :

    Seems only the Sharks have sense then. :wink:

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.05.08 15:03:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 11) :

    Ah mate, come on.
    If it wasnt for a few early season mishaps the stormers would have a home semi.

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.05.08 15:03:37 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Back to Wylie – so thats WP, Lions, Bulls, Sharks, Free State & EP… maybe the Boland Kavaliers are looking to replace John Daniels, should he ever retire?

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.05.08 15:04:27 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Is John Daniels really still playing or are you taking the piss Quinny?

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.05.08 15:05:41 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 23) :

    IF Frans Steyn had kicked the ball out last year, we would have WON the Super 14. Rugby isn’t a game of IF’s & BUTS unfortunately…

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.05.08 15:06:03 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Quinny, out of interest, where did you go for honeymoon?

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.05.08 15:06:04 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • PJLD:A loose forward and a centre, of course.
    PJLD:Ja we have a serious lack of players there.

    PJLD:Hows about buying a prop?
    PJLD:NAh,we dont need em.

    Im losing it!! :mad:

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.05.08 15:06:26 by PJLD Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 25) :

    Think he’s still playing believe it or not

    Thailand :mrgreen:

    Why, you planning that?

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.05.08 15:06:43 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 23) : yeah, but come on, dude… I am so sick of this “all the power is in the Cape” crap… The Stormers have done well this season, sure, but let’s just reel our necks in a bit, to borrow one of your catch phrases

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.05.08 15:07:32 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Oom John is still playing guys.

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.05.08 15:09:02 by PJLD Reply
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  • I wonbder if Problems will give us a good price for all our excess wheelchairs…

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.05.08 15:09:39 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • As a marra of fact he scored the winning try against WP in last seasons currie cup.

  • Comment 33, posted at 20.05.08 15:10:01 by PJLD Reply
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  • well, the power certainly ain’t at Cheetahs (in the Super14 at least)

  • Comment 34, posted at 20.05.08 15:12:33 by molly Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 23) :
    Forget the early season and its perceived mishaps – it was the latter part of the season that derailed the Stormers semi slot, more precisely the last game against the bottom placed team, no man they should have won that and been in the semi’s.

  • Comment 35, posted at 20.05.08 15:13:52 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Jeepers, this is coming from the Dark Side…:

    “Isma-eel Dollie will grow under James’ tutelage and is the most likely candidate to be fronting the Springboks’ 2011 World Cup campaign.”

  • Comment 36, posted at 20.05.08 15:14:11 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Problems should be looking at Pat Cilliers, Ronnie Uys, JC Janse v Rensburg, Ross Geldenhuys…

  • Comment 37, posted at 20.05.08 15:14:22 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 35) : they did win that

  • Comment 38, posted at 20.05.08 15:15:04 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 36) : until we see him playing head-to-head against the other contenders, we will never know

  • Comment 39, posted at 20.05.08 15:15:42 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 38) :
    Oh Boy an Ice moment – they should have won it with a bonus point.

  • Comment 40, posted at 20.05.08 15:19:39 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 39) :

    Sure, but WHAT a statement!

  • Comment 41, posted at 20.05.08 15:20:53 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • I think this is just the Cape press trying to make themselves feel better after the weekend……

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.05.08 15:27:44 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 29) :

    Thinking of heading to the East but not quite sure where.

    Might go back to Thaliand again but also considering Bali, Cambodia etc.

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.05.08 15:29:35 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 41) : Agree. Take it from whence it comes. Maybe they have a natural affinity with shorter players over there…

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.05.08 15:30:05 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 43) :

    I was so jealous when KSA and Kette went to Thailand. Tried to get them to fit me into their suitcase – but no luck! I really wanted to go to that tiger sanctuary. :sad:

    Going on holiday Vin or on business?

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.05.08 15:31:09 by Nessa Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 43) : Maldives is the way to go… take my word for it ;)

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.05.08 15:33:33 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • ‘Vermeulen, who worked with Erasmus in the Free State squad last year, may feel – along with Bosman – that the balance of power in South African rugby is shifting and that WP and the Stormers will feature more prominently than in recent seasons’.

    The author is merely speculating about what might motivate these players to move.

    Perhaps too much ‘reading between the lines’ it seems. :smile:

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.05.08 15:33:58 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 46) :

    Another destination I would kill to go to. So many places to see – so little time.

  • Comment 48, posted at 20.05.08 15:34:26 by Nessa Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 47) :

    The Cape Press create their own little world but the problem is they get others to believe it….particularly some Bok coaches who are based in C.T.

  • Comment 49, posted at 20.05.08 15:36:10 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • I don’t like leaving the house.

  • Comment 50, posted at 20.05.08 15:36:19 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 47) : but the balance of power has never been in the Free State. Why not rather play for the Province that ended 3rd in the Super 14 and beat all the other SA teams, for the second consecutive year?

  • Comment 51, posted at 20.05.08 15:36:59 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 50) : Gangs of hoodies waiting outside your door? ;)

  • Comment 52, posted at 20.05.08 15:38:08 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 51) : Too humid.

  • Comment 53, posted at 20.05.08 15:38:57 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 51) : I think it’s the Rassie factor. They know him, he knows them. Less uncertainty I suppose. And probably more Afrikaans speakers in the Western Cape…

  • Comment 54, posted at 20.05.08 15:41:04 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • Brighton’s usually nice this time of year. :wink:

  • Comment 55, posted at 20.05.08 15:45:16 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 49) : I think you guys give ‘the cape press’ far too much credit.

    Just like any region’s press they are simply biased towards their local side/players.

  • Comment 56, posted at 20.05.08 15:48:02 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 55) :

    And it is summer time there now. :wink:

  • Comment 57, posted at 20.05.08 15:51:31 by Nessa Reply

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  • It seems to me as if Rassie is building a second/currie cup side. Not sure how much Currie Cup the Boks will play, but Bosman could provide cover for JdV for instance and depth for the S14. Ditto Vermeulen etc.

    If all this is true, the Juan Smith might have to captain the Grey 1st XV in the Currie Cup.

  • Comment 58, posted at 20.05.08 15:51:44 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 56) :

    Ja but we like to think our press is biased in a less bigoted way…. ;)

    By the way sorry to interrupt your monologue….I sure you were aiming for 10 comments in a row….

  • Comment 59, posted at 20.05.08 15:52:26 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 57) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 60, posted at 20.05.08 15:53:04 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 59) : No worries. :grin:

  • Comment 61, posted at 20.05.08 15:54:15 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 45) :

    My trips all tend to be holidays nessa!

    This one promises to be a cracker!

  • Comment 62, posted at 20.05.08 15:54:47 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 54) :

    Let’s see

    Carstens
    Bis
    Jannie
    Sykes
    Muller
    vd Berg
    Botes
    Venter
    Deysel
    Pienaar
    Jacobs
    Strauss
    Terblanche
    Pietersen

    Nope… plenty Afriks there…

  • Comment 63, posted at 20.05.08 15:54:56 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 62) : problem with the Maldives is you tend to come back with a somewhat increased family ;)

  • Comment 64, posted at 20.05.08 15:55:50 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 46) :

    Ja I’d like to go to the Maldives but amongst my mates it’s become sort of the default choice of late and its put me off a tad to be honest.

    Its the same as Mauritius being the walking cliche for my parents generation…

  • Comment 65, posted at 20.05.08 15:56:29 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 62) :

    Lucky you!

    Well guys and girls – going home for the day. Have a good evening.

  • Comment 66, posted at 20.05.08 15:56:41 by Nessa Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 64) :

    lol. Priceless robbo!

  • Comment 67, posted at 20.05.08 15:57:11 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Surely as regular customers of the FS, the Sharks should be entitled to first picks of the “FS draft”?

  • Comment 68, posted at 20.05.08 15:57:26 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 64) :

    :twisted: Think you need to go back there then Rob! :grin:

  • Comment 69, posted at 20.05.08 15:57:46 by Nessa Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 65) :

    Be unique & do French Caribbean or Polynesia!

  • Comment 70, posted at 20.05.08 15:58:52 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Nessa (Comment 69) : yeah – that’s what my wife says

  • Comment 71, posted at 20.05.08 15:59:28 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 68) :

    Agh Quinny, you’e had first choice for many seasons – how do you think you even remained competitive in the Currie Cup?

  • Comment 72, posted at 20.05.08 15:59:33 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 70) : Guadaloupe? Martinique? Both should be good. I’ve heard Costa Rica is awesome as well. Then there’s always Cancun as well…

    Polynesia is just so damn far away! Bora Bora would be good, though.

  • Comment 73, posted at 20.05.08 16:00:33 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @ Vinnie :razz:

    didn’t get us many trophies lately…

  • Comment 74, posted at 20.05.08 16:00:39 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 63) : I meant in the region in general, but was only joking anyway. Should’ve added a smiley. :grin:

  • Comment 75, posted at 20.05.08 16:00:59 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 70) :

    Did Caribbean this Jan past and Polynesia is just too damned far.
    There is nothing that brings me down to earth faster than a 30 hour return flight after a holiday in the sun.

  • Comment 76, posted at 20.05.08 16:01:12 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 73) :

    Would kill to go to all of those places…

    Cuba too – before Castro dies. That place will become “americanised” & lose all remaining charachter when that happens…

  • Comment 77, posted at 20.05.08 16:01:41 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Some oke on the Sharks site now reckons that if the Sharks keep Smit, Province are on the verge of snapping up Bismarck ;)

  • Comment 78, posted at 20.05.08 16:01:46 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 75) : you should know me. I am a sour d**s with no sense of humour. No, wait, that’s Admin ;)

  • Comment 79, posted at 20.05.08 16:03:01 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 76) :

    Ok then, how about combining Laos, Thailand & Cambodia. How much time you thinking of?

    Have you considered Laos? I’ve heard it’s even better than Cambodia… And then there are some nice beach resorts along the south Vietnam coast – Hanoi also has a bit of a “european” inluence cause of the french colonisation – food, architecture etc.

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 78) :

    ja nee, now thats really “reading between the lines”.

  • Comment 81, posted at 20.05.08 16:06:11 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 80) :

    That is pretty much, in a nutshell, what I was thinking.

    Although I was thinking of doing Bali and then Cambodia/Thaliand.

    gonna be in Cape Town for a few days before heading out and so will probably be left with about 10 to 14 days for the holiday.

    It does pretty much mean I’ll be away from work for all of next Jan… glorious!

  • Comment 82, posted at 20.05.08 16:07:50 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 82) :

    so when is the wedding ;) ?

    14 days, eh… ja, you don’t really want to squeeze in too many countries else it becomes a little hectic. Bali can be a little touristy though – will be lots of Aussies. Depends what sort of a holiday you’re looking for really.

  • Comment 83, posted at 20.05.08 16:10:54 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 83) : could get nasty if you need visas for each place…

  • Comment 84, posted at 20.05.08 16:13:18 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 84) :

    Ja & Asian budget airlines are ridcilous with their checked-in baggage weight restrictions – its less than 15kg. We had to unpack our bags countless times, without the chance to pay-in. So in the end we had a ridiculous situation where we were carrying about 4 items of hand luggage each – weighing about 20kg per person.

  • Comment 85, posted at 20.05.08 16:17:23 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 85) : I am fighting the Schengen battle once again tomorrow morning. God, some days I hate being born South African

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 86) :

    lmao, it never ends. If it isn’t the Schengen battle, its Home Office & local SA consulate passport woes :roll:

  • Comment 87, posted at 20.05.08 16:22:46 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • The day they finally give me that little red boklet, I’ll celebrate by personally visiting Margaret Thatcher with a bottle of British bubbly & a box of biscuits!

  • Comment 88, posted at 20.05.08 16:23:54 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 87) : went to SA house on Friday and was pleasantly surprised. Everything went smoothly and I was out in 20 minutes. The woman even explained to me how to apply for a second active passport. Says that they have had passport coming back in 4 weeks, but I should still expect 4 months as a worst-case.

    Tomorrow I have a meeting mit se chermans. Have a flight booked for Monday and only one page left in my passport, so I need to get a long one out of them.

    Problem is, I only get my new UK Visa in May, so any Schengen visa I get can only be until end of Feb at the very latest. Not sure what I’m meant to do between Feb and May next year.

  • Comment 89, posted at 20.05.08 16:25:40 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 88) : how long do you still have to go?

    I received a letter from my MP today ;)

  • Comment 90, posted at 20.05.08 16:27:41 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 89) :

    LOL, that’s pretty much my problem at the moment as I get my new UK visa in October. Guess I need to look forward to a very “British summer”…

    There’s no point forking out £45 for an extremely short-stay Schengen, when I can get a 2 year Schengen in October – that’s right, les francais have started issuing 2 year schengen visas based on your visa status & prior Schengens issued!

  • Comment 91, posted at 20.05.08 16:28:51 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 90) :

    Quite a while :roll: :lol: …argh.

    So what did your MP say – “put up or go back to SA”?

  • Comment 92, posted at 20.05.08 16:29:53 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 91) : Can you send me some info about that/

    @Le Requinny (Comment 92) : I asked him what he thought of Brown’s plans to impose a “Super-Immigrant-Tax”. He told me he thought it hadn’t been properly thought out, like most of Labour’s plans. Bloody Tories ;)

    Anyway, he has offered to share my concerns with the shadow Home Secretary, so let me spend the next two years cosying up to this individual and then make damn sure to vote Tory in 2010 ;)

  • Comment 93, posted at 20.05.08 16:32:25 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 93) : I’m breaking my own golden rule, though – bringing up politics on a rugby site ;)

  • Comment 94, posted at 20.05.08 16:35:03 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 94) :

    Indeed!

    No additional info on 2 year Schengen visa – it won’t be listed on their website, but 2 of my friends have now received 2 years Schengens from les tres gentille Frogs & when they asked them in surprise when the 2 year visa came about, they said they’ve just started rolling them out BUT you need to have > 2 years left on your UK visa or indefinite leave to remain AND have had previous Schengen visas issued by the French embassy, though I’m not so sure that last bit is really a prerequisite – can be other embassies methinks.

  • Comment 95, posted at 20.05.08 16:39:27 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 95) : ok – well, hopefully that will be something to aim for once I’m all renewed next year. I have twice been issued Schengen’s by the Frogs, but never by the London Embassy. Wonder if that matters…

  • Comment 96, posted at 20.05.08 16:41:06 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • the London embassy??!!

    Back to the 2 year visa, obviously its also discretionary – they consider the application on an individual basis & I think you’ll also need to apply at the embassy itself – not via an agency.

  • Comment 97, posted at 20.05.08 16:47:31 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 97) : yeah – the French Embassy in London. My two French-issued Schengens came form Joburg

  • Comment 98, posted at 20.05.08 16:52:12 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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