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Sharks SA’s most successful Super side


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Super 14 on 20 May 2008 at 06:58

The Sharks, by reaching the semifinals for the sixth time, can lay claim to being South Africa’s most successful Super Rugby side since the intercontinental tournament started in 1996.

Superrugby’s Superwrap Team writes that although the Bulls have been South Africa’s only winners of the title the Sharks have been far and away the country’s most consistent performers in the 13 years the tournament has been staged.

Thirteen seasons equates to 26 semifinals and only the Crusaders, with ten, have a better record than the Sharks when it comes to reaching the playoffs — the Brumbies matching the Sharks’ six with the Blues and the Hurricanes (who have also never won the title) having been in the last four five times.

Of the other South African teams the Bulls have reached the semis four times and the Stormers and Cats twice each.

The Sharks* have reached three Finals, in ’96, ’01 and ’07, without ever emerging victorious while the Bulls* won the only Final they appeared in last year.

The Crusaders are the undoubted kings of Super Rugby, though, with six wins in the first 12 years. The Blues took the championship three times, the Brumbies twice and the Bulls once.

Interestingly only seven of the competing teams have appeared in Finals — the Crusaders, the Blues, the Brumbies, the Bulls, the Sharks, the Highlanders and the Hurricanes — which, put another way, means the Stormers, the Cats, the Lions, the Cheetahs, the Reds, the Force and the Chiefs (the only NZ team not to reach a Final) have never gone all the way.

In scoring 52 points to top the log this season the Crusaders set a new record; beating by a single point the number they accumulated to end up first in 2006. The Sharks topped the log with 45 points last year.

There has only been one “perfect” season — in 2002 (when it was the Super 12) when the Crusaders won all 11 their round robin matches and then also their semifinal and the Final to take the title.

*In the early years of the tournament the Sharks competed as Natal and the Bulls as Northern Transvaal.



35 Comments

  • So this answers the question then. :wink:

    What question?

    “Why are you Sharks so windgat when you haven’t won anything for ages?”

    The answer is simple really.

    Because we are always there or there about when the dust settles.

    SHARKS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 20.05.08 07:02:07 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • well, technically the lions as transvaal won the tourny, was super 10 but still super rugby..

  • Comment 2, posted at 20.05.08 07:53:20 by knersboy Reply
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  • @knersboy (Comment 2) :

    The only guys who keep trying to include that as part of the stats are the transvaal supporters :wink:

  • Comment 3, posted at 20.05.08 08:01:49 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Most consistent – yes. Success = Trophy.

    Hopefully the Sharks put that right over the next 2 weekends.

  • Comment 4, posted at 20.05.08 08:48:56 by racheltjiedebeer Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : That competition was rigged. The rules dictated that the final would be in South Africa! As I recall, Transvaal only played one game overseas the year they won it. It doesn’t count

  • Comment 5, posted at 20.05.08 09:00:46 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 5) :

    no need to convince me. :wink:

    You may have to convince Walter when he sees this thread though :wink:

  • Comment 6, posted at 20.05.08 09:09:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : I was more confirming what you said ;)

  • Comment 7, posted at 20.05.08 09:24:12 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 7) :

    oh okay. :wink:

  • Comment 8, posted at 20.05.08 09:46:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) : You soeking for a fight? ;)

  • Comment 9, posted at 20.05.08 09:55:26 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 9) :
    Oh okay then :lol:

    What you wanna fight about?

  • Comment 10, posted at 20.05.08 10:04:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : Brad Barritt ;)

  • Comment 11, posted at 20.05.08 10:10:58 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Now now children!!! :wink:

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.05.08 10:15:07 by Nessa Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 11) :

    No he’s a kak center choose something decent to fight about. :roll:

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.05.08 10:20:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 13) : Them’s figthin words… ;)

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.05.08 10:21:18 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • :mrgreen:

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.05.08 10:23:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Here we go again …

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.05.08 10:24:40 by Nessa Reply

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  • Hahahaha…

    No china’s this is scraping the barrel a bit dont you think?

    The Sharks have been the most consistent team edging the Stormers in one year only based on end-of-season ranking points.

    Successful?

    Show me the silverware…

    That for as long as any other team accomplishes the same thing, remains the Bulls bragging rights.

    Same as saying the Bulls are the most successful CC team but strangely enough, WP has won the Cup more…

    Go win it this year first before you lay claim to this!!! :twisted:

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.05.08 10:31:04 by MorneN Reply
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  • Typical Sharks media spin. :wink: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.05.08 10:36:31 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 17) : hey look – it’s the devil’s advocate ;)

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.05.08 10:37:42 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 18) : Exactly, they should change the name of this place to Sharksworld or something… :lol:

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.05.08 10:42:52 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 20) :

    So Morne – if you can’t beat them? … :grin:

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.05.08 10:45:16 by Nessa Reply

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  • look guys, dont get me wrong, i would love to ignore that transvaal win. i come from randfontein, big transvaal country, i started supoporting ther sharks when i was a laaitie just to piss everyone off, man did i hear about it over and over and over and over when they won the super 10.

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.05.08 10:51:17 by knersboy Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 20) : Good idea ;)

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.05.08 10:52:19 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • A trophy is something to brag about. Anything else is just wind.

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.05.08 12:01:14 by yossarian Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 20) :
    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.05.08 12:04:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Trophies are not everything… :mad:

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.05.08 12:07:43 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 26) : would you rather come second then :shock:

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.05.08 12:14:54 by yossarian Reply

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  • Saying trophies are not everything is as good as saying The Sharks should feel as bad as the Lions / Cheetahs (CATS) because they are always near the bottom.

    Do yourself a a favour and choose ANY sport that gives a points ranking for finishing positions. (F1, Moto GP, Any Athletics league, etc. ) Then take their points system and apply to the S14 finishing positions over the years and tell me which team comes out on top.

    PLEASE publish your results here.

    SHARKS have had the most success of the SA teams in Super rugby, including S10 or not.

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.05.08 12:17:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @yossarian (Comment 27) :

    Obviously a team would prefer the trophy

    BUT

    If we were second in the comp but the top SA team then we are still the most succesfull SA team.

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.05.08 12:18:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : Fair enough, but IMO it is akin to the idea of having a trophy for the SA team that gets most points against the other SA sides. Like we don’t rate ourselves to win the Trophy, so we’ll set up a little side competition. It just reeks of 2nd rate to me.

    As the Sharks we should be comparing oursleves to the top teams, not to the less successful ones. I don’t care whether the Sharks have been more consistent historically than the Stormers any more than the Highlanders or Reds. It just really means nothng in light of the fact that we never actually won this competition.

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.05.08 12:27:29 by yossarian Reply

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  • @yossarian (Comment 30) :

    We never win anything…. :roll:

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.05.08 12:29:41 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 31) : The consolation is we are still in the hunt this season, and next season prospects look good with a squad that will largely be coming to prime ( just a few tweaks needed ) and continuity in coaching.

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.05.08 12:34:56 by yossarian Reply

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  • The only ‘successful’ teams are the ones who actually win the tournament.

    Therefore the Bulls are the most succesfull SA side.

    Coming second/third/fourth, no matter how many times is not success.

    Consistent yes.

    Sharks are the most consistent side in terms of overall wins.

  • Comment 33, posted at 20.05.08 12:47:39 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • Sharks/Natal have 372 log points from 157 games. 2.36 per game

    Stormers/WP have 317 log points from 140 games. 2.26 per game.

    Didn’t bother with the other teams. They’re worse.

  • Comment 34, posted at 20.05.08 12:49:53 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • Saying trophies does not mean anything and you end up 2nd, 3rd or 10th is okay (if over a period of time) confirms only one thing:

    You are the best loser, because you don’t lose as badly as the others that end even lower!

    But that still does not make you a winner, you are still a loser – just the best around… :razz:

  • Comment 35, posted at 20.05.08 12:53:16 by MorneN Reply
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