Clayton(PJLD)

Super Sharks steal the show


Written by Clayton Saville (Clayton(PJLD))

Posted in :Sharks, Super 14 on 21 May 2008 at 10:30

After 14 weeks of high-intensity rugby, all that remains are the semifinals and final of this year’s Vodacom Super 14 competition. So how did the local sides fare? Jacques van der Westhuyzen takes a look.

Bulls

Won: six

Finished: 10th

Points: 28

Sure, they had a new coach and a number of senior players left the franchise, but with the rugby set-up at Loftus as formidable as it is, they should have fared better. They complained about the ELVs, couldn’t get their confidence up and, simply put, struggled. They won their first game at Newlands, but then lost to the Crusaders (54-19) and Sharks (29-15), both at Loftus, before a nightmare tour which saw them lose to the Reds (40-8), Chiefs, Blues and Force. They came home and were hammered by the Hurricanes (50-22). They turned matters around with four wins at the end, but, as the defending champions, one would have at least expected them to challenge for the semifinals.

Standout star:

Wikus van Heerden

Mark: 5/10

Cheetahs

Won: one

Finished: 13th

Points: 13

If the Bulls struggled, the Cheetahs virtually knocked themselves out of contention from the word go. They also had to get used to a new coach, while the loss of Willem de Waal, Ollie le Roux and Os du Randt was telling throughout. They simply lacked depth, a few wise heads and the ability to land the knockout blow. While they scored some scin-tillating tries, their defence was an utter shambles. They leaked 57 tries – 10 more than the second-worst defensive outfit, the Chiefs. The Cheetahs managed just one win all year, against the Reds, but it could have been so different had they been a little more clinical at times. They lost six of their 13 matches by seven points or less.

Standout star: Duane Vermeulen

Mark: 2/10

Lions

Won: two

Finished: 14th

Points: 12

It was another woeful season for the men from Johannesburg, and no matter what the coach says, there is no excusing the performances. Sure, they were in with a shout of victory on numerous occasions, but all that matters after 80 minutes is the result, and the Lions only managed two positive ones. They scored a paltry 23 tries in 13 matches – the worst in the competition – and conceded 44. They picked up only two bonus points – the worst in the competition. Losing Andre Pretorius and Jaque Fourie before the start of the campaign didn’t help their cause, but pro-vision should have been made for their absence. In the end, they just didn’t have the necessary experience or know-how to be a factor.

Standout star:

Cobus Grobbelaar

Mark: 2/10

Sharks

Won: nine

Finished: 3rd

Points: 42

They started like a house on fire, winning seven out of their first eight games, with the other result a 13-13 draw with the Hurricanes. At that stage it looked certain they’d finish in the top two, but injuries to the likes of Frederic Michalak and Johann Muller, and the inability of the side to really strike form resulted in coach Dick Muir regularly making changes to his team. They then lost three big games on tour – to the Brumbies, Waratahs and Crusaders – picking up just one bonus point in the process. Their failure to regularly score four tries for a bonus point meant the Sharks were always going to struggle to make the playoffs. But they played their best rugby in their last two games, picking up 10 points to finish third.

Standout star: Ryan Kankowski

Mark: 8/10

Stomers

Won: eight

Finished: 5th

Points: 41

To miss out on the semifinals by a single log point after losing their first three games was a wonderful achievement. They played the most sparkling and enterprising rugby of all the SA sides and probably got to grips with the ELVs a lot quicker than the others. After the dismal start, they hit back by winning eight out of their next 10 games, including three victories in Australasia – against the Reds, Chiefs and Force. They’ll be kicking themselves for drawing with the Waratahs at Newlands, and for not scoring four tries against the Lions. Coach Rassie Erasmus got the best out of a highly talented squad and their brand of rugby, combined with the winning, drew the crowds back to Newlands.

Standout star: Jean de Villiers

Mark: 7/10

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144 Comments

  • I’ve just emailed this article to rob & ksa…please ignore guys. :grin:

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.05.08 10:56:55 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply
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  • Will do :-)

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.05.08 11:10:50 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Interesting how the backline came alive with Adi Jacobs in the mix.
    I wouldn’t start with Frans this weekend even if fit. Maybe bring him on later as an impact player

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.05.08 11:19:06 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 1) :

    Have done :wink:

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.05.08 11:19:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 2) :

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) :

    :roll: Yeah…what’s new… :smile:

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.05.08 11:24:15 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 3) :

    I know Frans has been tried in a lot of positions but personally I think
    the “impact player” position should be left to the players who are very good at it. :twisted:

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.05.08 11:28:18 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 3) : Adi has, for my money, been the most consistently strong runner of the ball in our back-line. The angles he runs at almost always create plenty of space, and he off-loads the balls at exactly the right moment.

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.05.08 11:29:09 by Waz Reply

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  • @Waz (Comment 7) : I suppose it’s because when he’s anticipating to receive the ball…and then when get’s it…the first thing that comes to him naturally is to find a gap to run to and then pass…compared to some “other” people who think…”Should I kick, should I run, should I kick, should I pass…maybe I should kick”…

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.05.08 11:35:28 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Waz (Comment 7) :

    Sorry Waz – but I have to say it. That’s my boy!! :cool:

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.05.08 11:42:52 by Nessa Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 8) :

    And I am thinking “don’t kick – don’t kick”.

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.05.08 11:43:45 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 9) :

    Meaning both Waz and Adi – of course. :grin:

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.05.08 11:44:13 by Nessa Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 8) : Pretty much, I think. He gets the ball and he just motors into space.

    JP, Frans, Waylon, Odwa: all seem to hesitate upon receiving the ball which costs that precious half-second of momentum. In the last game, JP looked MUCH better simply because that hesitation was gone, and he took the contact like a man (though I still haven’t forgiven him for flopping like a dead fish on top of Tuqiri in the last ‘Tahs game).

    Ruan is another player with great vision, who lately seems to have really backed himself to run the ball.

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.05.08 11:46:48 by Waz Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 11) : :lol:

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.05.08 11:48:04 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Waz (Comment 12) :

    Still haven’t forgiven JP for pausing for what seemed like eternity with the ball in his hands when we played the Stormers… :neutral:

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.05.08 11:50:31 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 13) :

    Got to cover all my bases. :wink:

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.05.08 11:53:31 by Nessa Reply

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  • Why do I, as a Sharks supporter, feel dissapointed in the Stormers final efforts in closing off the season with a bang, when their own supporters are extatic with the way they finished off. To me they had done all the hard work in recovering from those first three losses to be real challengers down the home straight. That showed charachter but then what happened – they really should have been a shoe in for the semi’s.
    I suppose that looking at where they ended compared to last year and the type of rugby they played then the feelings of satisfaction could be justified but factor in where they were 4 weeeks ago and reality should kick in.

    I wonder if I am becoming a closetb Stormers supporter.

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.05.08 11:59:22 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 16) :

    Don’t worry – I was also feeling bad that the Stormers didn’t make the semis. I really felt after all that hard work – they deserved it.

    However – they knew they needed 5 points on Saturday (as we did) and they didn’t get them.

  • Comment 17, posted at 21.05.08 12:01:42 by Nessa Reply

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  • Kankowski has class written all over him and with Rory and Odwa, the stand-out players this season for them – the rest were average. Just imagine if they all fired.

    Hell some of the guys in the Sharks team even made Stefan Terblanche look good – no easy task!

  • Comment 18, posted at 21.05.08 12:01:59 by MorneN Reply
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  • Dont feel bad for the Stormers – with a mindset of; “We are happy with 5th and exceeded our expectations (aiming for 6th)” what do you expect with such a loser attitude?

    They were good enough to reach the final 4, and at one stage looking at a home semi even.

    They blew it, simple.

  • Comment 19, posted at 21.05.08 12:03:24 by MorneN Reply
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  • @Waz (Comment 7) :

    Try and explain this to “try time”… :roll:

  • Comment 20, posted at 21.05.08 12:04:12 by Charlie Reply

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  • I was really hoping Odwa would make the Bok squad this time – they most definitely have the wrong brother.

  • Comment 21, posted at 21.05.08 12:04:34 by Nessa Reply

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  • extatic = ecstatic
    closetb = closet

  • Comment 22, posted at 21.05.08 12:05:26 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 20) :

    We don’t need to Charlie – because Adi go the try this time (excuse the pun)! :wink:

  • Comment 23, posted at 21.05.08 12:05:55 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 21) : He still could…

  • Comment 24, posted at 21.05.08 12:06:33 by MorneN Reply
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  • @Nessa (Comment 17) : Agree with you 100% Nessa and that is what is making their satisfaction with their performance so confusing to me.

  • Comment 25, posted at 21.05.08 12:07:48 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I’m sure Clayton has a Shark’s jersey some where in his closet…..

  • Comment 26, posted at 21.05.08 12:08:21 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 16) :

    I don’t think you put that correctly.

    The Stormers fans are proud of their team after having a kak start and being 0 from 3 at the starts to comeback and finish with 8 form 13 and their last loss having been in round 6.

    Take away those first 3 losses and they are 8 from 10 in the last 10 rounds and of the two they didn’t win 1 was a draw.

    that must be one of the greatest turn arounds to a season IMO.

    And make no mistake they are giving the Stormers stick for not making the play offs, but the Stormers have performed way better than ANYONE would have expected after rnd 3.

  • Comment 27, posted at 21.05.08 12:08:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • their last loss having been in round 6.

    That is a 7 week unbeaten run BTW

  • Comment 28, posted at 21.05.08 12:10:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) : If you happy in ending 5th and using last year as an excuse then I suppose you will be happy – I am certainly not.

  • Comment 29, posted at 21.05.08 12:12:20 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 24) :

    I know – am still hoping.

  • Comment 30, posted at 21.05.08 12:13:59 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 23) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 21.05.08 12:15:20 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 20) :

    Heh :)

    Well we all have our pet faves and our pet hates when it comes to players.

    I’ll probably be biased (unfavourably) when it comes to Butch James, just because I always think of those ludicrous armless tackles he used to come up with. The fact that he’s a world class flyhalf who played superbly in the RWC is almost an academic thing, in my mind. :) It’s hard to shake old perceptions.

  • Comment 32, posted at 21.05.08 12:16:32 by Waz Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 29) :

    No mate if it was the Sharks ending 5th I would be blowing all kinds of steam.

    If i supported any other SA team (other than the Bulls) and they ended 5th I would be RELATIVELY happy with the performance as it is a much better finish than usual.

    As for the Bulls, nothing better than SF’s should have been acceptable this season. They can make any excuse they want, the only correct one is the players didn’t want to play for this coach.

  • Comment 33, posted at 21.05.08 12:17:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • How do you all feel about the Sharks going back “percentage play” after they”ve been so outstanding the last 2 weeks… :roll:

  • Comment 34, posted at 21.05.08 12:17:26 by Charlie Reply

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  • Charlie,
    RWC final says it all

  • Comment 35, posted at 21.05.08 12:18:26 by Ollie Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 29) : It could’ve been worse…so i guess they are right to be happy with coming 5th…and playing a good brand of rugby.

    But they are definitely not happy about missing the semi’s …because they really had a GOOD chance.

    Think of us last year…we we happy we made the finals…and we played great rugby…but we were not too happy about not winning it.

    It can’t be all doom and gloom…unless you support the Lions / Cheetahs… who had too many negatives and not enough positives.

  • Comment 36, posted at 21.05.08 12:20:43 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 34) :

    I say “don’t mess with a winning formula or a winning team”.

  • Comment 37, posted at 21.05.08 12:21:45 by Nessa Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) :
    Well exactly KSA and after all that momentum they let themselves get bullied in the last 2 games.
    It is exactly because of the great turn around that the damp squib at the end is bugging me.
    I havent read of too many Stormers fans being too upset (other than at the Lions :?: ) other than MorneN and PA.

  • Comment 38, posted at 21.05.08 12:21:46 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 34) :

    Not too good…there’s no sign of rain…what’s DM’s excuse now?

  • Comment 39, posted at 21.05.08 12:22:16 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Ollie (Comment 35) :

    As much as I loved the outcome of that game – I didn’t enjoy watching it. Had no nails left at the end.

  • Comment 40, posted at 21.05.08 12:22:45 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Ollie (Comment 35) : Boring :roll:

  • Comment 41, posted at 21.05.08 12:26:59 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 38) : I cry myself to sleep every night. :roll:

  • Comment 42, posted at 21.05.08 12:27:15 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 40) :

    That was a very compact game…but the fact that it was a WC final involving the Boks made it fun to watch.

    I don’t want us going there trying to match them pound for pound cos we might be a few pounds short (again). We’ve got talented backs and they’ve shown that they still have skills we were starting to doubt.

    Anyway- that’s just wishful thinking…if we have to win it like the Boks…so be it.

  • Comment 43, posted at 21.05.08 12:29:02 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • Charlie, true. but it brought back Mr. William Web Ellis

  • Comment 44, posted at 21.05.08 12:29:07 by Ollie Reply

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  • woohoo. I’m off to Virginia the week after next

  • Comment 45, posted at 21.05.08 12:30:11 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Ollie (Comment 44) :

    I know – I know. We do what we have to do – the outcome is the important thing.

  • Comment 46, posted at 21.05.08 12:30:15 by Nessa Reply

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  • By the way I dont really buy this “aiming for sixth and therefore happy with fifth” spin. No coach, if asked will really tell the world what he is aiming for – he will always go conservative by 2 and maybe 1 place – its much easier to put a positive spin on those predictions when the time comes.

  • Comment 47, posted at 21.05.08 12:30:22 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 34) : Bad idea. If we start the crap kicking again, we’ll be dead.

  • Comment 48, posted at 21.05.08 12:30:51 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 45) :
    They say the Free State is particularily splendid at this time of the year. Enjoy.

  • Comment 49, posted at 21.05.08 12:31:38 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 45) :

    And this is exciting because…? :???:

  • Comment 50, posted at 21.05.08 12:34:29 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 49) :

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 21.05.08 12:34:58 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 38) :

    Just to clarify for you. :grin:

    You do know that Morne and PA are the same person, right?

  • Comment 52, posted at 21.05.08 12:37:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 52) : No I am not!

    Yes you are!

    No I am not, shut up!

    You shut up!

    Quiet – okay, let’s go and settle this over a beer.

    Okay…

  • Comment 53, posted at 21.05.08 12:41:18 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 53) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 54, posted at 21.05.08 12:43:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 53) :

    BTW where are you still posting as PA?

  • Comment 55, posted at 21.05.08 12:43:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 50) : Lots of nice trees! :)

  • Comment 56, posted at 21.05.08 12:44:31 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 52) :

    And now it makes sense…I was wondering why PA has never ventured to this neck of the woods… :neutral:

  • Comment 57, posted at 21.05.08 12:44:56 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 55) : the short place

  • Comment 58, posted at 21.05.08 12:45:59 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 56) :

    Oh-kay! Hug a few when you get there…

  • Comment 59, posted at 21.05.08 12:46:36 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 55) : @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 58) : Exactly like Rob said – the short place.

  • Comment 60, posted at 21.05.08 12:47:19 by MorneN Reply
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  • I reckoned if people want to sue me they can take me on personally – apart from the short place of course, there I am still hoping they sue the shit out of them!

  • Comment 61, posted at 21.05.08 12:48:15 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 61) : Dude… where’s your long-awaited article? ;)

  • Comment 62, posted at 21.05.08 12:52:04 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Had no idea.@KSA Shark © (Comment 52) :
    Had no idea.
    I know when Sharksworld started PA was still PA here. Was there an official announcement or what?
    Anyway it makes sense because the other day on Keo he was telling us why he was not happy with Rasssi’s aims and objectives spiel. Thats also where I got the impression that most Stormers supporters were happy with the how the season ended.

  • Comment 63, posted at 21.05.08 12:52:20 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 60) :

    Oh okay, i don’t read keo’s comments section at all, just his arty’s

    He DOES write some good stuff. Someone told me yesterday that he has been voted SAB sports journo of the year.

    Didn’t know that.

  • Comment 64, posted at 21.05.08 12:53:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 62) :

    I think he stuck it on the wrong website………

  • Comment 65, posted at 21.05.08 12:54:41 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 62) : @Dive Pass (Comment 65) : Ja I was a bit dof yesterday after a couple of glasses of wine and forgot which website I was on…

    Old age is getting to me!

    I was referring to the feature arti elsewhere, will do something soon for here, just waiting until the Sharks gets their asses handed to them by the Tahs for a second time!!! :twisted:

  • Comment 66, posted at 21.05.08 12:57:37 by MorneN Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 65) : RW = Rong Website ;)

  • Comment 67, posted at 21.05.08 12:59:56 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 67) :

    Less people to criticise him there ;)

  • Comment 68, posted at 21.05.08 13:01:24 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 66) :

    :lol: :lol:

    We really don’t mind if you say Ruggaworld dude. :smile:

  • Comment 69, posted at 21.05.08 13:03:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 68) :

    Taking about less people …. I can’t believe there are only 32 people who read this website who want to send the Sharks a motivational message????….

  • Comment 70, posted at 21.05.08 13:04:50 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 70) :

    And i hope when Rob sends the message he changes the “Go Guppies” comment to “Go Sharks” :wink:

  • Comment 71, posted at 21.05.08 13:07:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 71) : Trust me. There will be some editing. Some people have a strange sense of humour ;)

  • Comment 72, posted at 21.05.08 13:07:58 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 69) : For a second there I forgot which website I was referring too!!!

    No seriously, I reckon most okes know where I post in anycase, so its no difference to me.

    Thank god I don’t post on 7 sites anymore, imagine how confused I would be then!

  • Comment 73, posted at 21.05.08 13:09:33 by MorneN Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 72) :

    I like the comment about buying a genuine Sharks jersey. :shock: Does he have a counterfeit one at the moment? :lol:

  • Comment 74, posted at 21.05.08 13:13:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 73) :

    7 sites :oops:

    i would get all confused

  • Comment 75, posted at 21.05.08 13:13:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 73) :

    You would be less confused if you supported a team like the Sharks…. ;)

  • Comment 76, posted at 21.05.08 13:15:22 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 76) :

    AND more happy :wink:

  • Comment 77, posted at 21.05.08 13:18:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 76) : I dont think so hey – every week I would have to support different players in different positions! Its like roulette!

  • Comment 78, posted at 21.05.08 13:19:14 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 78) : :mrgreen:

    :oops: OUCH Ja Nee, die waarheid maak seer :oops:

  • Comment 79, posted at 21.05.08 13:23:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 78) :

    Jeez we must be quite lucky then…..in the Gary Player sort of way ;)

  • Comment 80, posted at 21.05.08 13:26:14 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 80) : Nah mate, Gary Player actually won cup’s!

  • Comment 81, posted at 21.05.08 13:29:54 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 81) :

    Glass houses….glass houses

  • Comment 82, posted at 21.05.08 13:31:26 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Currently the State of Origin and a sell-out crowd here in Aus… one thing is for sure… the Bok’s (and rest of world) are lucky the Aussie’s don’t poach more of their league counterparts… both side’s back’s would be world class union players with their eyes closed!

  • Comment 83, posted at 21.05.08 13:31:51 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 83) :

    Was looking at some of the Origin Galleries from previous games :shock:

    Looks like tuff stuff.

  • Comment 84, posted at 21.05.08 13:36:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 82) :

    Although having said that, I think I may agree with Quinny that there is a good chance of the Currie Cup heading to the Cape this year depending on the Bok squad composition and whether the Cape Press’s ideal WP team dreams come off …

  • Comment 85, posted at 21.05.08 13:37:12 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • “The well-known punter placed $700,000 on Queensland on Sunday at $1.74 with interstate bookie Matt Tripp. He said the bet was one of the biggest sports bet of its kind with millions more expected to be wagered on the Origin encounter around the country.”

    Ouch… 14-4 to NSW with 18min’s to go…

  • Comment 86, posted at 21.05.08 13:37:14 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Lol… KSA… I’ve just noticed you’ve been hiding your recent tri-athlon forays from us here at SW?

  • Comment 87, posted at 21.05.08 13:40:02 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 87) :

    you been reading our family blog again. Kette was having fun with that post :lol:

  • Comment 88, posted at 21.05.08 13:41:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 86) :
    Dude that must suck

  • Comment 89, posted at 21.05.08 13:41:10 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 26) :
    I actually don’t own any replica jerseys :oops:

  • Comment 90, posted at 21.05.08 13:41:56 by PJLD Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 87) :

    Thankfully she never added the bit we were joking about. He was only going to do the cycle and run though because swimming is just not his thing. I would have thought he would have quite a bit of bouancy :smile:

  • Comment 91, posted at 21.05.08 13:44:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 88) :

    Lol… yeah I clicked your name to reply to you by mistake… she’s nasty to you innit…lol!

    @PJLD (Comment 89) :

    League fans aren’t the smartest… lol!

  • Comment 92, posted at 21.05.08 13:45:45 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 91) : Plus you don’t even need a swimming cap. :wink:

  • Comment 93, posted at 21.05.08 13:46:24 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 93) :

    :lol:

    Can I borrow your wetsuit? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 94, posted at 21.05.08 13:49:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 92) : He was probably drunk.

    Or is that only the players?

  • Comment 95, posted at 21.05.08 13:53:25 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • lol naar!

  • Comment 96, posted at 21.05.08 13:53:50 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 90) : We need to start a new gallery for guys showing off their jerseys… what do you folks think?

  • Comment 97, posted at 21.05.08 13:53:54 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Who says bookies don’t have a great life… no chance of QLD winning…looks like he’ll pick up AU$700k for a night’s work… lol!

  • Comment 98, posted at 21.05.08 13:56:06 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Only replica gear I have is Springbok gear. Beanie, scarf, jersey, silk boxers & socks.

  • Comment 99, posted at 21.05.08 13:56:50 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • ..and two or 3 caps.

  • Comment 100, posted at 21.05.08 13:57:12 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 97) :

    My old girl and I have matching Shark’s dressing gowns sent over from my folks…lol!

  • Comment 101, posted at 21.05.08 13:57:24 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 94) : It’s not a wetsuit so much as it’s a fashion statement. :smile:

  • Comment 102, posted at 21.05.08 13:57:52 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 97) :

    Which English one should I wear?

  • Comment 103, posted at 21.05.08 13:58:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I see John Smit is taking no prisoners.

    He wants 1,5 mil for his services in SA. :shock:

  • Comment 104, posted at 21.05.08 13:59:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 103) : I’m thinking send in a snap of you wearing each jersey you own.

  • Comment 105, posted at 21.05.08 13:59:39 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 104) : what, he’s worth only half what Vic is worth?

    Bollocks.

    R1.5M is supposedly the amount that Lensing earns for playing golf and gymming all day.

  • Comment 106, posted at 21.05.08 14:00:33 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • “He wants 1,5 mil for his services in SA”

    Lucky it’s only Rand…lol..

  • Comment 107, posted at 21.05.08 14:00:38 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • I have
    4 english Jersey
    2 bok jerseys
    1 CC Sharks jersey
    2 S14 jerseys 2006(Home and away)
    many beanies and caps.

  • Comment 108, posted at 21.05.08 14:02:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 104) : I reckon John must go to the Bulls – it would strengthen SA Rugby – WP has Schalk and Liebenberg to work with and they won’t become Boks – well not this year with John and Bismarck there.

    I get the feeling though the Sharks are going to be sorry snubbing John for Bismarck.

  • Comment 109, posted at 21.05.08 14:04:50 by MorneN Reply
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  • Rob, do golf shirts count?

  • Comment 110, posted at 21.05.08 14:05:55 by Ollie Reply

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  • In this exact scenario John Smit pre-/sans- World Cup success would have gone to the Bulls. However he is now a multi-millionaire so expect him to head to the Cape, get a luxurious pad, reap up the odd appearance or three, and be presenting on Top Billing within a couple of years :roll:

  • Comment 111, posted at 21.05.08 14:08:08 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 109) : I actually agree, but I don’t think it would happen. I don’t think John wants to play there, although maybe his relationship with Paul Anthony (and Chilliboy) might sway him

    Sharks need to find a way to accommodate both. Get John on the books, but give Bis a guarantee that he’ll start at least 80% of the games at hooker when he’s available. John could still develop into a formidable loose-head at provincial/S14 level.

  • Comment 112, posted at 21.05.08 14:09:59 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • “I get the feeling though the Sharks are going to be sorry snubbing John for Bismarck.”

    N’er mind the press… I don’t see it happening…

  • Comment 113, posted at 21.05.08 14:11:46 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 112) :

    I see you are moving him to loosehead now? ;)

  • Comment 114, posted at 21.05.08 14:12:11 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Ollie (Comment 110) : yeah – I guess so.

  • Comment 115, posted at 21.05.08 14:12:30 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 112) :

    John’s not worth it at THAT price – not if we only get him for half a season at a time…unless SARFU foots the bill…

  • Comment 116, posted at 21.05.08 14:13:55 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 114) : I’m not sure what to do with him, to be honest. Please don’t give me grief about this again! ;)

    It’s just occurred to me that the Bulls won’t be able to afford him. Not with the Super 14 they’ve just had and also breaking the bank to pay for that big showpony with the stupid beard.

  • Comment 117, posted at 21.05.08 14:14:04 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 116) : they’ll foot at least some of the bill, surely?

    What was John earning before? I’d be surprised if it was less than R1M a season

  • Comment 118, posted at 21.05.08 14:14:59 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Ok, so reading that article in it’s entirety, the Bulls certainly seem to be the ones making the loudest noises. I wonder how having John in the Kraal would sit with Vic and Fourie, especially given that the national captain would probably expect to captain his provincial team… I’m pretty sure Bulls captaincy was a pretty strong clause in Big Vic’s contract.

  • Comment 119, posted at 21.05.08 14:18:42 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 118) :

    Probably not, but the variables were different then weren’t they ;) ?

    Rather invest in a few young props & a decent locks with that money. I have my doubts as to whether JS post-WC will be as effective as pre-WC.

  • Comment 120, posted at 21.05.08 14:19:35 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 117) :

    Ok I won’t give you a hard time on Smit at prop….. I will just ask if you are referring to the Show pony that won MOM in the RWC final?

  • Comment 121, posted at 21.05.08 14:19:49 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • is there any reason why you guys aren’t discussing this on the RELEVANT thread? :wink:

  • Comment 122, posted at 21.05.08 14:19:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 121) : Yes – that is the show-pony I have in mind.

    I have this blue thing…

  • Comment 123, posted at 21.05.08 14:21:44 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 119) :

    Why should Smit be captain? As Victor Mafield is Bok vice-captain & has been with the Bulls for many seasons, I would expect him to be the Bulls skipper.

    Graeme Smith doesn’t captain Western Province by the way, when he plays for them…

    these guys are professionals – one would hope issues like throwing toys over captaincy don’t get thrown in the mix :roll:

  • Comment 124, posted at 21.05.08 14:21:57 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 124) :
    You sure quinny?

    Smith has thrown his toys out the cot on more than one occasion over the WP captaincy.

  • Comment 125, posted at 21.05.08 14:31:27 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 124) : I would think that John has every right to expect the captaincy of any team he plays for, given his accomplishments…

  • Comment 126, posted at 21.05.08 14:35:39 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 126) :

    I disagree. I think Victor Matfield would also have every right to expect the captaincy of any team he plays for, given his accomplishments…

  • Comment 127, posted at 21.05.08 14:36:58 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 127) :

    ok I meant the BULLS – substiute that for evry team he plays for.

    @PJLD (Comment 125) :

    PJLD

    He did in the past, yes, but I think he has accepted it. Ashwell Prince normally captains WP ahead of him.

  • Comment 128, posted at 21.05.08 14:38:19 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 127) : I think Matfield is an overrated showpony and has every right to expect me to dislike him because he plays for the Bulls ;)

  • Comment 129, posted at 21.05.08 14:46:20 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Ag both Vic and John are a bunch of girls man!

    Going overseas and then coming back expecting millions because of one silly medal.

    Look what living on past glories did for the Bulls in the S14 this year.

  • Comment 130, posted at 21.05.08 14:48:04 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 130) : and they’re not even proper metrosexuals either. I bet you John has never even tried a little eyeliner or lipgloss…

  • Comment 131, posted at 21.05.08 14:54:30 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Geez – I leave you guys for an hour or two and you are talking eyeliner and lipgloss? Seriously … :grin:

  • Comment 132, posted at 21.05.08 14:57:04 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 132) :

    LOL Ness :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 133, posted at 21.05.08 15:00:07 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Let me repeat KSA’s question…

    Why is the John Smit thing being discussed here?

    Anyway…I think R1.5 million is a LOT of money…

  • Comment 134, posted at 21.05.08 15:02:00 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • Hey Ice – I see you speak with a striped tongue on the “Support the Sharks” thread.

  • Comment 135, posted at 21.05.08 15:09:30 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 135) :

    Just conveying a mesagge…. :wink:

  • Comment 136, posted at 21.05.08 15:15:26 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 136) : so when is his highness going to pop in and visit us here? ;)

  • Comment 137, posted at 21.05.08 15:25:11 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 137) :

    WTF is his highness?? :shock:

  • Comment 138, posted at 21.05.08 15:27:21 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 138) : The oke who forwarded you the message from the Stormers Supporters Club ;)

  • Comment 139, posted at 21.05.08 15:29:54 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 136) :
    Good, I thought that “they” may have got to you – they nearly got me.

  • Comment 140, posted at 21.05.08 15:30:46 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 138) :

    Think he is talking about Roger.

  • Comment 141, posted at 21.05.08 15:30:57 by Nessa Reply

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  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Thought thats who you meant! :lol:

    mmmm…let’s see…NEVER?? :grin:

  • Comment 142, posted at 21.05.08 15:31:42 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 140) :

    NEVER EVER!!! :grin:

  • Comment 143, posted at 21.05.08 15:32:50 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • he he he. You ladies are too sharp ;)

  • Comment 144, posted at 21.05.08 15:39:08 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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