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Sharks know what NOT to do


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Sharks, Super 14 on 22 May 2008 at 05:37

The Sharks, having lost 25-10 to the Waratahs earlier this season, know well what they should not do when they play the Australians in the Super 14 semi-final here on Saturday.

Liam Del Carme writes Beeld that for that reason, the South Africans feel they are better equipped to win the rematch, even though it may necessitate a team change.

On their previous visit to Sydney, the Sharks came off second best in the mauls.

“We learnt a lot from the defeat,” Sharks coach Dick Muir said here on Wednesday. We have changed some things. We are certainly better, as a squad, than when we were here last.”

Muir has no doubt that the Sharks will have to stand up to the Waratahs in contact situations. The battle for the ball will be crucial.

“We will have to soften them up in the mauls. We can’t afford to come second in that department,” he said, without placing any cards on the table.

The possibility that Tonga’s Epi Taione will be included on the flank, has become stronger.

Taione served a six-week suspension after head-butting Jeremy Thrush of the Hurricanes earlier this season. He seems likely to be among the loose forwards as part of the Sharks’ plans to hold their own at breakdown points.

His chances of playing are probably better than those of Springboks Frans Steyn and BJ Botha are.

Assistant coach Grant Bashford thought on Tuesday that Botha had almost no chance of being fit to play but Muir seemed optimistic on Wednesday.

“We feel Frans and BJ should both be ready. We will finalise the team only on Thursday and will wait and see,” Muir said.

But even if Botha has recovered from his calf-muscle injury it may be risky to include the tough front-row star in the starting lineup.

The Waratahs are expected to stick to the team that beat the Reds last week, with the exception of Tatafu Polota-Nau, who will be replaced in the front row by Adam Freier.

There is also some doubt about the fitness of star wing Lote Tuqiri, who took a knock on a knee last week.

A probable Skarks team:

Stefan Terblanche; Odwa Ndungane, Adrian Jacobs, Brad Barritt, JP Pietersen; Ruan Pienaar, Rory Kockott; Ryan Kankowski, Epi Tainone, Jacques Botes, Johann Muller, Steven Sykes, Jannie du Plessis, Bismarck du Plessis, Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: Waylon Murray Frans Steyn; Jean Deysel, AJ Venter, Albert van den Berg, BJ Botha, Craig Burden.



76 Comments

  • A probable Skarks team:

    JP Pietersen, Ruan Pienaar, Rory Kockott, Ryan Kankowski, Epi Tainone, Jacques Botes, Johann Muller, Steven Sykes, Jannie du Plessis, Bismarck du Plessis, Tendai Mtawarira.

    Substitutes: Waylon Murray Frans Steyn; Jean Deysel, AJ Venter, Albert van den Berg, BJ Botha and Craig Burden.

    Something wrong with this team :?:

  • Comment 1, posted at 22.05.08 07:32:30 by Charlie Reply
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  • wonder what that may be

  • Comment 2, posted at 22.05.08 07:39:15 by PJLD Reply
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  • Congratulations to you PJLD and all the Man United fans.

    That’s what Chelsea gets for their stupid “SCOUSE-FREE AREA” banner…

    Now …you’ve won it THREE times…not too shabby hey… :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 22.05.08 08:23:37 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • Dankie blackshark

    i feel like death is kicking my arse

  • Comment 4, posted at 22.05.08 08:26:05 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 1) :

    Unless its a soccer team…

  • Comment 5, posted at 22.05.08 08:28:05 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 5) : :lol: :lol: :lol:

    SHARKS FC!

  • Comment 6, posted at 22.05.08 08:38:15 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 4) :

    What happened? Forgot to sleep again? :wink:

  • Comment 7, posted at 22.05.08 08:39:18 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 6) :

    You bet!! LOL (my smileys are gone…)

  • Comment 8, posted at 22.05.08 08:39:37 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Congrats to Bismarck with his 24th birthday today :!: :!: May there be many many more and may you spend most of them at the Sharks :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 9, posted at 22.05.08 08:48:58 by Reds Reply

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  • the return of 11 man Rugby???

    are we really that good??

  • Comment 10, posted at 22.05.08 08:51:08 by barend Reply

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  • @Reds (Comment 9) :

    Hi Reds…is he THAT old??…. :wink: Thought he was still a youngster like us…. :grin:

  • Comment 11, posted at 22.05.08 08:51:12 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 1) :

    Half the backs are missing???

  • Comment 12, posted at 22.05.08 08:54:52 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Morning all, happy birthday Bissie…geez 24 only
    Hello icey my stoutgat twin

  • Comment 13, posted at 22.05.08 08:55:55 by Debs Reply

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  • @Debs (Comment 13) :

    Hey Deboratjie!!! :cool:

    I have the need to make sh*t today…ever had that feeling?? :wink: :twisted: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 22.05.08 08:58:14 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Icey i have those days too often…only problem is i make so much s##$t and then i can never get out of it…hehehehe

  • Comment 15, posted at 22.05.08 09:05:30 by Debs Reply

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  • @Debs (Comment 15) :

    Also always up to the waiste.. :wink:

  • Comment 16, posted at 22.05.08 09:43:15 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • :oops:

    Okay i have hunted down the original article in Dutch and whoever did the transcribing from Beeld obviously thought the Sharks only needed 11 players.

    my :oops:

    Here is the Probable team of 15 players.

    Sharks: Stefan Terblanche; Odwa Ndungane, Adrian Jacobs, Brad Barritt, JP Pietersen; Ruan Pienaar, Rory Kockott; Ryan Kankowski, Epi Tainone, Jacques Botes, Johann Muller, Steven Sykes, Jannie du Plessis, Bismarck du Plessis, Tendai Mtawarira. PLAASVERVANGERS: Waylon Murray Frans Steyn; Jean Deysel, AJ Venter, Albert van den Berg, BJ Botha, Craig Burden.

  • Comment 17, posted at 22.05.08 09:50:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) :

    So they have Steyn as a farm replacement……

  • Comment 18, posted at 22.05.08 09:54:45 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • I don’t read much into this team. I don’t think Dick will start with Taione at all.

  • Comment 19, posted at 22.05.08 09:57:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 19) :

    We will hopefully find out in next 2 hours…..not that Muir kept to the time limits last week.

  • Comment 20, posted at 22.05.08 10:00:49 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Adi Jacobs to start 3 in a row :?: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 21, posted at 22.05.08 10:11:25 by Charlie Reply

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  • Muir waits on Steyn recovery – Mike Greenaway May 22 2008 at 08:26AM

    Francois Steyn will play inside centre for the Sharks against the Waratahs in the Super 14
    semifinal in Sydney should he recover from the rib cartilage injury that kept him out of the final pool game against the Chiefs, and tighthead prop BJ Botha has not yet been ruled out of the game, contrary to press reports.

    Speaking from Sydney, coach Dick Muir said that Steyn is “touch-and-go” to be fit to play and that if he does play, the fact that he might be on the tender sides means he has to start.

    “It is not wise to have a guy on the bench who might break down soon after he comes on (and the problem would be exacerbated if that happens early in the match),” Muir said. “Frans is a big game player (he has played in a Rugby World Cup final) and his enormous boot is a weapon most teams do not have at their disposal.”
    That ability of Steyn’s to kick goals from 60m was mentioned with trepidation by Waratahs coach Ewen McKenzie as early as Monday and it would be mostly on those grounds that Muir would trade Steyn for Bradley Barritt. The latter had an exceptional game when he reclaimed his No 12 jersey from Steyn for last week’s game.

    Interestingly, Muir said that he would not consider playing Steyn at 13 in place of Adrian Jacobs.

    “No, it would be a swap at 12,” Muir said. “I believe Adrian has done more than enough in recent games to warrant continued inclusion at outside centre.”

    Muir said Botha was still in a fitness race to make the starting line-up.

    “It is incorrect that he has been ruled out of the game,” Muir said. “He and Francois will again have late fitness tests and where both of them failed before the Chiefs game, we are hopeful that at least one of them will make it this time, and if it is both that will obviously be great.”

    The talk about Steyn and his ability to kick monster goals is in contrast to the heavy focus on try-scoring over the last fortnight, which saw the Sharks score 12 tries to qualify for the semifinals.

    “Obviously the context of this game is different,” Muir said.

    “No bonus points are required in a semifinal.

    “You take whatever points are on offer whenever you can, and you give the opposition as little opportunity to attack you as possible.”

    In other words, are the Sharks are going to be a lot more conservative than they were against the Chiefs?

    “Not necessarily,” says Muir. “We are in a situation where we are now very comfortable with playing two strategies: we kept it tight for eight rounds to go unbeaten and then in the last fortnight we have shown we an cut loose.

    “The trick for us is to know when to use which strategy in the same game. We want to play low-risk rugby but switch to all-out attack when the opportunities are there.”

    Muir said that the Sharks could not escape the growing din in Sydney over the hasty dismissal of coach McKenzie six weeks ago.

    “There is quite a lot of emotion about the coaching issue and it is a card the media is happy to play to stir up the players.

    “Frankly, I don’t see how anybody will nee any extra motivation when you are playing for a place in the Super 14 final.”

    This article was originally published on page 28 of The Star on May 22, 2008

  • Comment 22, posted at 22.05.08 10:14:23 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 22) :

    In other words, are the Sharks are going to be a lot more conservative than they were against the Chiefs?

    “Not necessarily,” says Muir. “We are in a situation where we are now very comfortable with playing two strategies: we kept it tight for eight rounds to go unbeaten and then in the last fortnight we have shown we an cut loose

    “The trick for us is to know when to use which strategy in the same game. We want to play low-risk rugby but switch to all-out attack when the opportunities are there.”

    Ahem ahem ahem ahem!!!!

  • Comment 23, posted at 22.05.08 10:21:57 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 22) :

    Charlie did Adi play 12 or 13 when he was part of the great Falcon’s centre pairing with Botha?

  • Comment 24, posted at 22.05.08 10:24:50 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • I just hope DM is sure about Epi. We can’t afford to loose any player due to red and yellow cards.

  • Comment 25, posted at 22.05.08 10:29:50 by Nita Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 24) :

    He played 12… :wink:

  • Comment 26, posted at 22.05.08 10:55:14 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 26) :

    Thanks Charlie

  • Comment 27, posted at 22.05.08 10:58:56 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 27) : Pleasure :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 22.05.08 11:00:30 by Charlie Reply

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  • Good morning all.

  • Comment 29, posted at 22.05.08 11:03:04 by Nessa Reply

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  • morning Nessa…..join us while we all wait to hear the Sharks team announcement

  • Comment 30, posted at 22.05.08 11:04:32 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Hi DP – just glad to hear it looks like my Adi will be starting again. :grin:

  • Comment 31, posted at 22.05.08 11:06:16 by Nessa Reply

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  • Did any of you see the picture of Plumtree on the Sharks official website? He has either dyed his hair blonde or the thought of being the Sharks head coach has turned him grey over night…..

  • Comment 32, posted at 22.05.08 11:08:00 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Hoezit? Wat sê allie Tjaaks fêns?

  • Comment 33, posted at 22.05.08 11:11:15 by Cru-El Reply

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  • Where do you see the picture of Plum? I see one of Bashie.

  • Comment 34, posted at 22.05.08 11:12:26 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 34) :
    :oops: ….that would explain it….lol

  • Comment 35, posted at 22.05.08 11:15:10 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • No problem – just thought I was looking wrong. :wink:

    He is such a nice guy.

  • Comment 36, posted at 22.05.08 11:16:59 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Cru-El (Comment 33) :

    Scares one u….you still in hiding after yyour teams hiding?? :wink:

  • Comment 37, posted at 22.05.08 11:30:57 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Do you think we will get a team announcement today? We didn’t last week.

  • Comment 38, posted at 22.05.08 11:49:21 by Nessa Reply

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  • What’s the ;atest that the team can be announced?

  • Comment 39, posted at 22.05.08 11:59:46 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • Ness – sure someone posted a team on another thread… :?:

  • Comment 40, posted at 22.05.08 12:01:16 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @Nessa (Comment 38) : “It is incorrect that he has been ruled out of the game,” Muir said. “He and Francois will again have late fitness tests and where both of them failed before the Chiefs game, we are hopeful that at least one of them will make it this time, and if it is both that will obviously be great.”

  • Comment 41, posted at 22.05.08 12:01:48 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 41) :

    Meaning? That he is waiting for last minute fitness tests again?

  • Comment 42, posted at 22.05.08 12:06:08 by Nessa Reply

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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 40) :

    Didn’t see one. :cry:

  • Comment 43, posted at 22.05.08 12:10:49 by Nessa Reply

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  • hey guys

  • Comment 44, posted at 22.05.08 12:20:17 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Hi Rob.

  • Comment 45, posted at 22.05.08 12:25:05 by Nessa Reply

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  • Hate to say I told you so…

    If Frans can play…he’s starting… :neutral:

  • Comment 46, posted at 22.05.08 12:32:12 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 42) : Seems so… :wink:

  • Comment 47, posted at 22.05.08 12:36:44 by Charlie Reply

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  • I think Muir has his team but he’s just trying to see how long he can delay the team before Ewen snaps… :twisted:

    Be patient guys…soon all will be revealed. We have to try every trick…including mind games…

  • Comment 48, posted at 22.05.08 12:39:18 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 48) : Ewan has already snapped… he named his team ages ago.

  • Comment 49, posted at 22.05.08 12:41:38 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Dick is trying to pull a Rassie. :grin:

  • Comment 50, posted at 22.05.08 12:43:08 by Nessa Reply

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  • I wish Dick would rather pull a Jake White and win the damn game ;)

  • Comment 51, posted at 22.05.08 12:45:29 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 51) :

    Good one Rob!!! :grin:

    And while he is about it – how about a double whammy – two in a row???

  • Comment 52, posted at 22.05.08 12:47:35 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 52) : that’ll do ;)

  • Comment 53, posted at 22.05.08 12:49:26 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Ha ha ha … we own the “DELAY” strategy…Rassie just borrows it now and again…

    I’m actually too calm for a Thursday…have a feeling the nerves will hit me big time on Saturday morning…

  • Comment 54, posted at 22.05.08 12:50:12 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 54) :

    :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

  • Comment 55, posted at 22.05.08 12:52:36 by Nessa Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 54) : I am also strangely relaxed. Not sure why

  • Comment 56, posted at 22.05.08 12:53:26 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Sharks Match 22:

    15. Stefan Terblanche
    14. Odwa Ndungane
    13. Adrian Jacobs
    12. Francois Steyn
    11. JP Pietersen
    10. Ruan Pienaar
    9. Rory Kockott
    8. Ryan Kankowski
    7. AJ Venter
    6. Jacques Botes
    5. Johann Muller ( Capt )
    4. Steven Sykes
    3. Jannie du Plessis
    2. Bismarck du Plessis
    1. Tendai Mtawarira

    Replacements
    16. Craig Burden
    17. Deon Carstens
    18. Albert van den Berg
    19. Jean Deysel
    20. Epi Taione
    21. Bradley Barritt
    22. Waylon Murray

  • Comment 57, posted at 22.05.08 13:02:55 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 56) :

    Have you had any trees? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 58, posted at 22.05.08 13:03:45 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • had = seen

  • Comment 59, posted at 22.05.08 13:04:13 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 57) :

    Is this the real thing?

    Oh well…guess BJ didn’t make it.

    Otherwise the team looks fine to me…we’ll murder the TAHS!!! :mad:

  • Comment 60, posted at 22.05.08 13:05:36 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • Brad onto the bench is a mistake :eek:

  • Comment 61, posted at 22.05.08 13:06:22 by Cru-El Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 60) :

    yip, hot off the wires…….

  • Comment 62, posted at 22.05.08 13:06:30 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Cru-El (Comment 61) :

    Well at least he is there if the wonderkind doesn’t delivery….just hope Steyn is told to play sensibly on his own try line!!!

  • Comment 63, posted at 22.05.08 13:11:12 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 63) :

    deliver not delivery

  • Comment 64, posted at 22.05.08 13:11:40 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • I thought Barritt was the axis around which the Sharks backline revolve.

  • Comment 65, posted at 22.05.08 13:20:00 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 65) :
    That little oval shaped thing called “the ball”…that’s the axis our backline needs to revolve around.

  • Comment 66, posted at 22.05.08 13:25:07 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 65) : He is. :(

  • Comment 67, posted at 22.05.08 13:36:57 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 67) : I suspect our national coach has requested this particular centre combination.

  • Comment 68, posted at 22.05.08 13:37:19 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 64) :
    Steyn better be Mr Delivery :mrgreen:

  • Comment 69, posted at 22.05.08 13:38:33 by Cru-El Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 68) :

    I doubt he would in the semi-final of the Super 14…..

  • Comment 70, posted at 22.05.08 13:39:45 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Cru-El (Comment 69) :

    :mrgreen: Oh yes he better be!

  • Comment 71, posted at 22.05.08 13:40:48 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 67) :

    Don’t cry RobDizzy…Superman will get his chance after Wonderkid !

  • Comment 72, posted at 22.05.08 13:40:52 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 68) : :wink:

  • Comment 73, posted at 22.05.08 13:41:28 by Charlie Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 72) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 74, posted at 22.05.08 13:41:54 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 73) : :grin:

    @Charlie (Comment 74) : :eek:

  • Comment 75, posted at 22.05.08 13:51:00 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 75) : :oops:

  • Comment 76, posted at 22.05.08 13:57:50 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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