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WP on Springbok hunting trip


Written by Clayton Saville (Clayton(PJLD))

Posted in :Currie Cup, In the news, WP on 23 May 2008 at 07:19

Stephen Nell , Die Burger

Cape Town – Western Province, determined to win the Currie Cup for the first time since 2001, have signed two Springboks, appointed Allister Coetzee as coach and held talks with Percy Montgomery to reach their goal.

AJ Venter and Willem de Waal will join the Cape side soon but Springbok captain John Smit and loosehead prop Ollie le Roux are not on WP’s shopping list.

Sharks stalwart Venter, whose WP contract runs from June 1 until May 31 next year, will play at lock.

“De Waal has also confirmed that he is coming,” WP Rugby (Pty) Ltd managing director Rob Wagner said on Thursday. “He has been contracted until 2010.”

“We are in discussions with Montgomery, possibly to help in the Currie Cup competition,” Wagner said.

Montgomery, who starred in the rugby World Cup tournament in France last year, could take on a role as mentor in the Currie Cup campaign, and even in the Super 14 next season.

“Our experience with Tony Brown and Federico Mendez has shown it works,” Wagner said, referring to the value of experienced players.

The union has also confirmed that Coetzee will coach the WP Currie Cup team this year.

Coetzee was an assistant to Springbok coach Jake White when South Africa won the World Cup last year and he has assisted Stormers coach Rassie Erasmus this season.

Build on Stormers’ success

White recommended last year that Coetzee should take over from him as national coach.

Coetzee now takes over as WP coach from Gary Gold who has been appointed as an assistant Springbok coach.

Coetzee wants WP to build on the success that the Stormers enjoyed in their last ten Super 14 matches.

“The Currie Cup is becoming an extension of the Super 14,” he said on Thursday.

“Good progress has been made in some areas in the Super 14. We can use it as a starting point.

“It is a tremendous honour for me to coach WP. It’s a massive opportunity.

“We want to win the Currie Cup. Much momentum has been created with the Stormers. We hope it spills over into the Currie Cup. It will also help in next year’s Super 14.”

Coetzee will have to make do without several top WP players who will be on national duty. He will therefore appreciate the reinforcements, especially at flyhalf.

Springbok Peter Grant and Isma-eel Dollie are both in the Springbok training squad and Coetzee says Dollie may also be called up to play for the Emerging Springboks in the Nations Cup tournament.

“To have someone with experience will be a bonus,” he said.

Province did not even qualify for the Currie Cup semi-finals last year but this week’s developments prove they are determined to break the long drought.

Nazeem Adams, Jacques Hanekom and Jacques Nienaber will assist Coetzee with the provincial team’s coaching.

news24.com



53 Comments

  • Signed two springboks? I count one

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.05.08 08:25:07 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Hell, for a province that pride themselves on producing talent they sure do a lot of shopping. Maybe they want to make sure that Alister Coetzee has a successful Currie Cup.

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.05.08 08:55:30 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 2) : OK, but one thing I do feel is that they should be applauded for appointing Coetzee. What a great coach he is proving to be.

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.05.08 09:03:59 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 2) :
    Nooot everyone is too happy about that Sal

    @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 3) :
    Agreed

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.05.08 09:10:32 by PJLD Reply
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  • What pisses me off is the way this AJ Venter signing has been handled by WPRU’s spin doctors – the Cape press… with absolutely zero tact! Why announce it now – in the lead-up to one of AJ & the Sharks’s most important games? Why not wait until next Monday? Just looking at the way Voldy is trumpeting about WP’s AJ “capture”, is enough to make you sick – TACTLESS.

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.05.08 09:14:28 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • By the way, if AJ is going to play as a lock, can we have one of the WP locks in return ;) ?

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.05.08 09:16:15 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 5) :
    Thought Rob would be the person to come out guns blazing.

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.05.08 09:16:46 by PJLD Reply
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  • You can have Rito Hlungwane :-)

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.05.08 09:17:40 by PJLD Reply
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  • Actually no wait you cant.

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.05.08 09:17:59 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 7) : Not really. AJ is surplus to requirements for us, I feel. I’m just ignoring the fact that Voldy and his pals are now going full-steam ahead with their “Province for the Currie Cup” campaign. We’ll talk about the Super 14 here, thanks

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.05.08 09:19:08 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 6) : It actually makes sense for them to have one extra enforcer lock… but if they want a tired old warhorse, why not use the one that’s on their doorstep?

    The only one we want is Bekker anyway and I doubt he’d come.

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.05.08 09:20:20 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 11) :
    He almost had pen to paper for you guys last season

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.05.08 09:21:29 by PJLD Reply
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  • Just think. If WP wins the Currie cup it will be won by South Africa as there is so many imported players in the team :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.05.08 09:23:24 by Reds Reply

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  • @Reds (Comment 13) :

    IF WP wins the Currie Cup, I’ll pull my hair out – think we might also have to plant a bug in Voldy’s website too, to save ourselves from all his propaganda…

    So where can one buy a Boland (aka WP-slayers) jersey?

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.05.08 09:25:37 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 12) : Was that, in fact, true? Thought it was just an unsubstantiated rumour…

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.05.08 09:30:22 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 3) :
    I’m not doubting his coaching ability, if Jake White recommended him for the Bok job then I’m sure he is even better than we want to give him credit for, but by going on this ridiculous “hunting trip” might be giving him the message that they don’t trust his ability and that they need to surround him with experience. It also makes a mockery of the Province age group and other structures which on last years form were up there and ahead of most other provinces.

    We are talking about the Currie Cup here, not the Super 14, where the experience that a wise older experienced player (Ackerman) can be the difference between playing with self belief or doubt.

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.05.08 09:31:14 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 15) :
    Me too and i had completely forgotten about it but not too long ago it popped up from someone that is well respected and not known for talking much bollocks,only thing is,i cant remember who the hell it was.

  • Comment 17, posted at 23.05.08 09:33:30 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 16) :

    Agree 100%. The irony is that WP are the union with probably the biggest pool of players to choose from…yet they go purchase has-beens from other provinces in a tactless fashion.

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.05.08 09:34:33 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 12) :
    Imagine how impressive he would then have looked in that pack. :twisted:

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.05.08 09:34:57 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Theres enough players in the WP vodacom cup team to step up to CC very easily, what we are trying to do by buying Bosman boggles my mind, Morgan Newman is damned good ,what kind of message must he get from this?

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.05.08 09:35:18 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 18) :
    And they still havent purchased any props. :?:

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.05.08 09:36:45 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 21) : :roll: tell me about it

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.05.08 09:40:00 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 20) :

    Ja and just look at the way they shafted Egon Seconds for the Fijian AND Wyle Human – granted die Wyle een actually didn’t stuff up this season yet…but the fact is that both wingers contracted ahead of Seconds are journeymen at best :roll:

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.05.08 09:42:35 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 21) :

    Give them half a chance & they’ll raid Natal & the Free State for our props…

  • Comment 24, posted at 23.05.08 09:43:18 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • PJLD
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    @PJLD (Comment 20) :
    I think what generally happens is that the Bulls buy them at bargain prices, somehow get the best out of them and then unleash them on Province. At that stage there normally is a huge outcry along the lines of “how did the WPRU let so an so go, and that one and that one…”

  • Comment 25, posted at 23.05.08 09:43:43 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Good on WP. Buying some experienced players to guide the younger, less experienced players. :twisted:

  • Comment 26, posted at 23.05.08 09:50:32 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 23) :
    True and the thing that makes the Egon story even crappier is that the season before he was Italy bound and they bent over backwards to stop him from going, a season later they send him to Hamiltons to play club rugger.

  • Comment 27, posted at 23.05.08 09:53:47 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 18) : It can only work well. Perhaps we can do a “new for old” swap? If the young players at Province perceive that there aren’t any opportunities for them to progress, they might just come and join our Academy

  • Comment 28, posted at 23.05.08 09:58:55 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 10) :

    Right now I couldn’t care less about who’s doing what for the Currie Cup.

    Will be a bit odd now to see AJ in that striped kit…but I guess i’ll get used to it…

  • Comment 29, posted at 23.05.08 09:59:33 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • If it was such a big deal or secret, I’m certain AJ or his agent could’ve requested the news be held back till later. I seriously doubt the Sharks will even give it a second thought in the run up to the match.

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.05.08 09:59:42 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 27) :
    Hell that sucks – sue them for loss of earnings.

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.05.08 09:59:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 27) : tell you what – I would LOVE Egon Seconds to play for us

  • Comment 32, posted at 23.05.08 10:00:07 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Hey hey it’s Friday – and there is no rugby!!

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.05.08 10:01:36 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 31) :
    Thing is Hammies has HUGE financiers,im sure he is doing ok though(Italies cash woulda still been better)
    Too much of a nice guy.

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.05.08 10:02:24 by PJLD Reply
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  • Meaning I am sad :cry: – after reading my last comment it looked like I was celebrating?

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.05.08 10:02:26 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 35) :

    Thanks for clearing that up Nessa…my day feels empty…

  • Comment 36, posted at 23.05.08 10:03:45 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 28) :

    I think we should send Rudi down to the Cape for “business”… Seeing as though Rassie will be rap!ng our feeder province soon, we can start a new “arrangement” with WP whereby we send them our has-beens in return for their youngsters who can’t break through. Once we make them Boks & get the best out of them, we then return to WP…

    Sounds good, ne?

  • Comment 37, posted at 23.05.08 10:04:37 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 36) :

    Hi BS. Thank goodness we have more rugby in June. That break from the end of the CC season to the beginning of the S14 season is way too long.

  • Comment 38, posted at 23.05.08 10:05:37 by Nessa Reply

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  • WP develop plenty of their ‘own talent’. Problem is there are so many wanting to play for Province, some are bound to slip through the net.

    Of the 50 odd contracted senior players how many have been ‘bought’?

  • Comment 39, posted at 23.05.08 10:07:53 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 38) :

    Yes! The tests will really come in handy…and I’m expecting great rugby there as well…

  • Comment 40, posted at 23.05.08 10:12:00 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • Just had the man himself confirm that the London Irish story is a crock of shite.

  • Comment 41, posted at 23.05.08 10:17:25 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 21) :

    :shock: They haven’t purchased any props?

    Wait- you mean props…as in the loosehead and tighthead kind?

    Or the kind they use for their annual Pre-Currie Cup stage production and street parade? :???:

  • Comment 42, posted at 23.05.08 10:22:02 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 42) :

    :twisted: :twisted:

  • Comment 43, posted at 23.05.08 10:24:53 by Nessa Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 42) :
    :lol: Nah they already have those kinds – stored at Pieter Toreins Theater on the Bay, I mean the beefy type that the hooker has to hold in place.

  • Comment 44, posted at 23.05.08 10:29:20 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 44) :

    Yeah but they don’t know what they are… :roll:

  • Comment 45, posted at 23.05.08 10:31:33 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 45) :

    LOL @ Quin.

    Deon once told me that the props are the guys that sat in the back of the class – and they weren’t the pretty boys of the class either. I told him not these days!

  • Comment 46, posted at 23.05.08 10:35:08 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 46) : I think Pat is a very nice looking young man. He would actually look great in the Stormers brochure next to Jean and Peter Grant.

    They need to get rid of Ricky and Schalk, though. That “Orc look” is so last season.

  • Comment 47, posted at 23.05.08 10:42:08 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 47) :

    :twisted:

  • Comment 48, posted at 23.05.08 10:44:30 by Nessa Reply

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  • Skeate, Sireli and someone else (just slipped my mind) got makeovers on Top Billing…

    Anyone see that?

  • Comment 49, posted at 23.05.08 10:45:37 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 49) :

    I’m sure Skeate REALLY enjoyed it :roll:

  • Comment 50, posted at 23.05.08 10:47:14 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @blackshark N.R.N.S! (Comment 49) :

    I didn’t see that but I have seen some of the pieces they have run on John, Butch and Percy.

  • Comment 51, posted at 23.05.08 10:49:14 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 50) :

    :smile: Except his trench-coat looked more like a waistcoat…

  • Comment 52, posted at 23.05.08 10:55:08 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 51) :

    Yes…I saw all those features…including that mean steak that John ate…

  • Comment 53, posted at 23.05.08 11:00:49 by blackshark N.R.N.S! Reply

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