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Contracting chaos scuppering Sharks


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 25 May 2008 at 10:30

Questions are starting to surface around Commercial Manager Rudolf Straueli’s autocratic and authoritarian approach to handling contracting matters at Sharks HQ.

Sharksworld has it on good authority that a group of influential ex-Natal players are fed up with the way the disgraced former Bok mentor is going about his business. One doesn’t have to cast one’s mind back too far to remember how influential this corps of superstars has been in the past: the firing of Kevin Putt set a recent precedent.

This is not the first time that we’ve heard rumblings in the undergrowth about dissatisfaction with Straueli either. As far back as 2006, I first heard rumours that he was not well liked in Durban and that his heavy-handed approach did not go down well. It was confirmed again by another source very close to the team a month ago, before this latest bombshell dropped by a man who knows more than most about the goings on in SA Rugby.

It seems that Big Rudi was pretty much influential in the Sharks allowing Butch James and John Smit to leave. In the case of James, he was never consulted or even informed about the decision to contract Fred Michalak; rather, the first he heard about it was what he read in the press. Our source, who knows both Smit and James very well, tells us that both are desperately keen to return to the Sharks, yet neither is able to thanks to Straueli.

We all know what the problem is regarding Smit – the frankly idiotic clause in Bismarck du Plessis’ contract that will allow him to walk away should John return. Anybody watching the dog’s breakfast that was Bismarck’s performance in the Super 14 semi-final will know that he still has a long way to go before he’s worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as John Smit – yet we won’t bring the latter in back at the risk of losing the youngster? How many other such clauses has Straueli inserted into other players’ contracts, one wonders? Will Jannie du Plessis be free to leave if his brother goes? Will Kanko be free to walk if his Durban hairdresser moves to Cape Town? The mind boggles at the possibilities.

And what of AJ Venter and BJ Botha? Something stinks about the way that Venter was released; further, it appears as though absolutely no attempts have been made to retain the services of our stalwart tighthead who has no equal in the country. Could this be a case of players being shown the door for having the audacity to challenge Oom Staaldraad? Or is it perhaps because he feels they’re trying to back him into a corner and he won’t have that?

Word on the street is that Straueli offered Frans Steyn a provincial contract for a third of what other juniors were being paid. Steyn’s old man ripped the contract up and we almost lost him as a result. Fortunately Straueli changed his mind in this case. How many other junior stars are being paid far less than their market value, thanks to Straueli? How much more money are we going to waste on big name signings that deliver no value: how many more Lensings, Farani’s, Michalaks and Taione’s will we need to endure, while other provinces, most notably WP, seem to have no problem in signing players with genuine pedigree?

The Sharks have done well thanks to a crop of incredibly talented youngsters that have come through in recent years. The stream is drying up, though and we are left wondering where the next big thing to hit Natal rugby is going to come from. Where is our quality depth? Why is our reserve team, the Wildebeest, so shocking?

Let’s just hope that those stalwarts who have the best interests of Sharks rugby at heart succeed in convincing Brian van Zyl to reign in his contracting fuhrer, hopefully in time to allow us to get back two heroes we should never have lost in the first place.



88 Comments

  • Questions that need to be answered

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.05.08 10:35:22 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • Kanko goes to the hairdresser? :shock: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.05.08 10:35:56 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 2) : You think the Hoff look happens by accident?

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.05.08 10:39:11 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • Straueli seems seriously old school. ‘Verkramp’ in fact.

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.05.08 10:39:21 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 3) : The Hoff look. :lol:

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.05.08 10:39:54 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • Surely the coach gets to decide who he wants to contract?

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.05.08 10:41:15 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 6) : Not in Shark country

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.05.08 10:43:27 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • I almost cannot comprehend the fact that someone like Straueli is in such a position of power at one of the premier franchises in SA.

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.05.08 10:48:08 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • In fact I cannot comprehend it. My brain doesn’t want to accept it. :evil:

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.05.08 10:53:16 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 8) : He did well at first. Or at least, he seemed to. Maybe it was a case of him taking credit for structures other people built. Either way, we had a freakishly talented bunch of guys coming through all at once. Also, some of the real stars in our team, JB, Ruan, Odwa, Bis et al were found by Putt

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.05.08 10:53:28 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @racheltjiedebeer (Comment 8) :
    Maybe its beecause of him that they are one of the premier provinces.

    As for Bismarks throwing in – was it really poor or had the Warratahs somehow got the line out calls. I think the latter.

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.05.08 11:40:15 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • not sure about this article Rob.

    I am a big fan of John Smit and Butch James, but both of them decided to leave the sharks. I think it would be great for the sharks to get them back, but within reason and budget.

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.05.08 11:48:41 by cab Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 11) : Either way, he had a very average day at the office

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.05.08 11:49:36 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @cab (Comment 12) : But we’ve ended up with no flyhalf and hardly any experience left in our team

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.05.08 11:52:37 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • Btw, cab, you’d probably see it differently if you knew who the source of this story was. Alas, I can’t reveal that

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.05.08 11:54:48 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • yeah i dunno, perhaps there is a problem with straui, god knows draadtrek was dom as can be, but cant see alogether how he can be blamed fo the sharks transfer woes.

    perhaps the source is right, and BJ will be a really bad loss, as was Smit and Butch, but i remember at the time they were lost there was not quite such an outcry as their seems to be now after a 1 or 2 results not meting expectations.

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.05.08 11:59:22 by cab Reply

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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 13) :
    On the teams performance yesterday average wouldnt be too bad. I am a huge Jon Smit fan and I took some stick for wanting him back at the Sharks from those who feel that in a professional world there is no place for sentiment or loyalty, but I feel singling out Bismark was unfair.
    By the way I thought that Brad Barrit was good once he got on and his presence and contribution will surely have answersd a few questions.

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.05.08 12:04:32 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 17) : I agree it’s not fair to single out Bis or any other one player for what was a poor team performance. My arguement is that he is by no means untouchable, though as he disappeared in a big game. He is not currently worth sacrificing John for

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.05.08 12:08:38 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @cab (Comment 16) : This probably seems knee jerk given the timing. Remember, though, that I am reporting what others are saying, interspersed with my own feelings. So this isn’t just me

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.05.08 12:10:14 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • anyway you okes are hurting, but 3rd spot is very credible.

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.05.08 12:11:33 by cab Reply

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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 18) :
    I totally agree that the clause in his contract is utter madness. BTW when was that contract signed or was the clause put in as a ryder when JS was known to be leaving. On the other hand if we had Jon Smit at the Sharks now what would you expect Bismark to do – play off the bench or in the Vodacom cup. And is it really fair to expect the world cup winning captain to play out of position as a prop. I said it the other day and it remains even more true after this weekend – SARU (by bringing JS back) have created a catch 22 situation for the NRU in which they will be the losers regardless of whether they contract JS or not.
    By the way I heard that JS is not going to cut short his contract with Cleremont and will be available for them until seasons end.

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.05.08 12:19:03 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @cab (Comment 20) :
    Agreed – I think we did exceptionally well considering our loss of personel, experience and our horrendous draw.
    I am proud of them and really feel they did us proud.

    Having said that I wish we had won the damn thing and that they had played a better game yesterday.

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.05.08 12:23:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • i can concur what rob has in the article is true and sadly so

    btw rob a well written article

    there is so much under the carpet we are not aware of

    all i do know is this is true and its time things got soughted out

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.05.08 12:45:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • what rob is saying in here is no thumb suck

    its facts and what makes it worse is we lost these players and could lose more ??

    it showed again yesterday that smit is the no 1 hooker in SA
    most supporters sadly so dont understand some of the basics of hooker play of much of the game

    fact is a hooker must do the basics 100 % first and bismark does not do that

    some on blogs have slted me for saying this but, what happened yesterday proves this
    BUT

    bismark isnt alone to blame
    our jumpers are not gelling

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.05.08 12:48:32 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • fact is we got beatin by a better side

    on the day that is

    what i am horrified to see is the way the sharks are being treated etc by so called sharks supporters

    its like some sharks supporters were calling smitty fat barney
    yet the same idiots were shouting his glory after the world cup

    and the fact is before one bad mouths or insults a person , make SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT or make sure you know the facts

    you dont know what you have till you lose it

    ROb whats sad to see is the same sharks supporters on the sharks blog is bad mouthing smitty again and singing bismarks glory ?? shows lack or knowledge in total dont it ???

    bismark is a great player but he has a lot to learn still and that we should respect

    butch wants to return to the sharks , but certain factors at the sharks is stopping that and rob has hit the mark in his article

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.05.08 12:53:37 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • as salmanoid said we are truelly proud of our sharks , they did their best and we cant ask for more

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.05.08 12:55:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 24) :
    What is it that Bismark , as a hooker, is not doing correctly. If you’r referring to his throwing in yesterday then I dont agree – I didnt see the first 20 minutes but from what I did see it seemed as if he was putting that ball in right down the middle and on target for our jumpers with the exception that their jumpers (mostly Vickerman) was the one doing the jumping to perfection. (a few times too often to be coincidental for my liking)

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.05.08 12:58:19 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • mate for the most smitty does the basics of hooker play better then any other hooker in SA

    things did seem wierd yesterday

    and this is why i dont blame bismark

    i blame noone , but things did not go to plan
    and most players made mistakes
    not just bissy

    but we do need smitty back even if he is to play tighthead etc

    but we need his captaincy

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.05.08 13:01:42 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 28) :
    I will go down on my hands and knees to get JS and Butch back, to me the only jersey’s they will ever look “right” in are those of the Sharks and the Boks. I also dont want Bismark to leave and I feel that its highly unfair to expect JS to play at tighthead if he wanyts to play hooker – of course if he is willing to play tighthead well then I’d want to know why he has’nt got a contract. If its financial, well then I would be willing to contribute to a fund if it would help in paying his dues.

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.05.08 13:11:37 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • What about the other points raised? The fact that we always seem to be bringing in lemons. I can think of exactly one big name signing that rudi has brought in that has worked. And he only came because his brother is with us

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.05.08 13:29:43 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 30) :
    The other points (R.Strauli) are, if true, very worrying and should be addressed.
    Regarding the signing of new players, I think Deysel will prove to be a good signing. Freddy Michalak is a class player and I think he will still thrive playing the ELV,s, whether for the Sharks or someone else remains to be seen. Stefan Terreblanche was contracted to replace Percy after performing admirably in last years CC. Basically, other than those mentioned all other positions were covered by incumbents from last year.
    If our academy was working properly would it be necessary to buy in hoards of players, yes some but not on the scale that Province is doing at the moment. Maybe this should be reassesed and if it is felt that the Accademy youngsters are not going to make it then the funding that goes into the accademy could be rerouted for player procurement and Rudi Straueli or someone else can become purely a procurement officer.
    Ultimately the players coming into the Sharks team should be coming through the ranks – academy – age group – Wildebeest – Sharks, with a few exceptions as and when required.
    We must also remember that this is a very young Sharks team and could potentially be together for many years to come.

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.05.08 14:27:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • think the sharks must just be calm and perhaps try and stop a few tranfers like BJ going thru and try strike a comprise with bismark and john and butch. i dont think epi cost that much, but think he was a good buy, just a series of unfortunate events. this is precisely the sort of forward the sharks need imo…botes does not give this muscle and neither does kanko, both v good but need that balance. at lock, ackerman was a BIG loss imo, unforunately sykes needs time to develop into a 4.

    its still a very good team, but i think to be no 1 they’d need a no 4 lock like bakkies, a 7 like juan smit and a speed strikerunner like Habana, Naqueluviki or Chav. Then again they might win it next year with their current squad.

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.05.08 14:38:32 by cab Reply

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  • remember the Crusaders are probably the best side in the world and the sharks are not far off, let the sharks play either the Tahs or the Saders at home and it might be a very different result.

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.05.08 14:41:15 by cab Reply

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  • Cheers all.

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.05.08 14:41:33 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • cheers, yip also off, enjoy sunday, dissapointing but still a good season.

  • Comment 35, posted at 25.05.08 14:46:58 by cab Reply

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  • even with all the problems we did good, im proud of the boyz. Quote from alice in wonderland ‘of with his(straulli) head

  • Comment 36, posted at 25.05.08 15:53:07 by jarsonx Reply
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  • Hi All

    First off

    Commiserations

    i must admit I do have a fair bit of Schadenfreude- but hey- Sharks was the best SA team in the S14 2008- so lets stick to that.

    Robd- remeber a discussion that we had a while ago- on the trend of players going overseas/

    my point was that the Sharks will suffer to attract quality?

    Dont blame RedNoseRudi for everything Boet- Deben has just lost most of its sparkle and its not the biGgest blingfactor anyway, anymore…

    a reality to be faced.

  • Comment 37, posted at 25.05.08 16:43:38 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Both Bismarck and jaNNie had Rudi on the rack- so he had to agree on their terms- as the Loftus Contracts were lying on the table.

    I dont believe the Cape offer to jannie was ever seriously considered- but for a bargaining tOOl- Bethlehem is tOO far away from the Cape- but fits nicely between Bloem, Deben and Tswane!

  • Comment 38, posted at 25.05.08 16:47:54 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Players has wisened up on the issue of player constipation in the senior pro ranks- and the Coach erasmus in the Cape who will use his own moNNy to attract a player he likes- even the $harks oFFerings can be maXed!

  • Comment 39, posted at 25.05.08 16:49:47 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Rudi might be a plank- but DaPPerDick should shoulder the full blame for Saturday’s implosion.

  • Comment 40, posted at 25.05.08 16:50:49 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Oh and as an afterthought- I doubt it that Rudi was directly involved in the decision of John Smit to play in France.

    I guess the aftershock of the whole jake White thing and the abundance of euro’s were quite instrumental in that decision being made.

    BTW- John Smit had a very gOOde game against Brive the other night.

  • Comment 41, posted at 25.05.08 16:57:17 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Sadly- the mantra of “losing without excuses and wiNNing with humility” do not have a place in the pro game anymore.

  • Comment 42, posted at 25.05.08 17:03:48 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Evening all,

    I don’t think that Sharks ought to be worried about their academy, from what I hear it’s a good set-up. Good youngsters tend to come through in batches every 3 years or so – I’ve no idea why.

    What they should worry about is their reserve team, I could only bring myself to watch 3 wildebeest games this season and was appalled by the standard of rugby. Blignaut and Hargreaves look good but are too lightweight at the moment. I can’t remember the names of the flyhalf and fullback (Marx somebody perhaps?) but they weren’t much good.

    I agree with OO that the Sharks couldn’t but agree to Bismarck’s contract clause, they’ve done well to get the 2 brothers. But there must be some way to fit both Smit and Bis in the same team.

    The Sharks also need Butch (or any chance of stealing Grant? – he is Natal boy after all) & as cab said; a burly lock (Greg Rawlinson is playing at Worchester – he can’t be happy there) and a physical flank who can carry and fetch the ball (Cobus Grobbelaar would be my 1st choice).

    Playing Steyn at fullback ignites the back 3 – I’m certain that steady old Terreblanche playing almost nullifies our winger’s attacking potential.

    There is certainly plenty of work to be done at Kings Park before the new season starts.

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.05.08 17:18:06 by Flashman Reply

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  • How sour are those grapes, exactly? :-)

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.05.08 17:19:38 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • hehehe- no vinegar stuFF from me RoBBieDee

    just a facing of reality

    :grin:

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.05.08 17:22:40 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Thirteenth is a lOOOng way oFF from second- but even coming second is still first of the lOOsers- as you have realised last year!

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.05.08 17:24:48 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • @Flashman (Comment 43) : Tiaan Marx and Danie Dames. Neither look like they’re about to set the world alight.

  • Comment 47, posted at 25.05.08 17:26:08 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • I agree it’s time for old Stef to step down. He has a nasty habit of bottling it in play-off games

  • Comment 48, posted at 25.05.08 17:28:16 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • Anyway- how is the hedge coming along- some sprouts of green as yet?

  • Comment 49, posted at 25.05.08 17:28:34 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • @Oranje Orakel (Comment 49) : yeah – it’s pretty much in full leaf, but growing very slowly. Going to take a long time before it actually resembles a hedge

  • Comment 50, posted at 25.05.08 17:50:25 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • BTW, Flashy – that’s an AWESOME user pic!

  • Comment 51, posted at 25.05.08 17:50:52 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • Thank you.

  • Comment 52, posted at 25.05.08 19:26:36 by Flashman Reply

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  • Rudolf Straulie is very bullish….

  • Comment 53, posted at 25.05.08 22:06:26 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Even with his kids…but I guess we cannot comment on that….everyone needs to bring-up there kids as they find best….

  • Comment 54, posted at 25.05.08 22:07:08 by Hmmm Reply

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  • But every team can play their players they know that they are leaving to the end without crap…

  • Comment 55, posted at 25.05.08 22:08:42 by Hmmm Reply

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  • LIONS:

    Habana; Schalk Brits; Januarie; Jantjies…the only problem was Mujati cozz he did not honer his contract and cheated himself out of it….so that is understandable…

  • Comment 56, posted at 25.05.08 22:11:42 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Bulls had plenty last season…

  • Comment 57, posted at 25.05.08 22:12:28 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Cheetahs had plenty…

    Why only do the Sharks have issues when someone decides to continue elsewhere????

    I mean AJ played with the young flanks forwards under his wing for a few years now….and the Sharks have a good few new ones that need to ind their own…which most of them have shown they could….
    I could not think of a better time for him to go?

  • Comment 58, posted at 25.05.08 22:14:41 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Stroolie rears he’s head again…thank goodness he is no longer involved with the Boks , he is probably aiming to take over the mantal from Maargraaf.

  • Comment 59, posted at 26.05.08 00:40:39 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • Ah. When you don’t know who to beat up on anymore, there is always RS.

  • Comment 60, posted at 26.05.08 03:15:37 by fyndraai Reply
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  • I arrived at the TV just before the game started due to my kid playing school rugby. Could not believe AJ in the pavillion. Was he injured?

  • Comment 61, posted at 26.05.08 08:47:01 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 61) : The official story is that he hurt his hand. The rumours are far more sinister

  • Comment 62, posted at 26.05.08 08:50:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • Oh well hopefully it will give him more reason to hot up when WP meets the Sharks in the CC open game. :cool:

  • Comment 63, posted at 26.05.08 09:21:17 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 63) : He could well make a massive difference to your campaign. Still, I reckon that a lot of the success or failure of WP this year will depend on whether Mujati ends up with the Boks or not.

  • Comment 64, posted at 26.05.08 09:34:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 62) :
    In that case Johan Muller is part of the conspiracy because he made reference to the injury in the after match interview.

  • Comment 65, posted at 26.05.08 09:37:42 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 65) : who knows how deep this thing goes? ;)

  • Comment 66, posted at 26.05.08 09:38:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • How is it possible that Mujati qualifies to play for the Boks?, Is he a SA citizen, has he got residency?

  • Comment 67, posted at 26.05.08 09:41:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Here’s what Mike Greenaway had to say:


    One wonders what the full situation was with Venter. Conspiracy theorists might wonder if he was making a silent protest after being told that he would not be offered a contract for the Currie Cup and next year’s Super 14, forcing him to sign a contract for that period with Western Province and bringing to an unfortunate end his nine-year career with the Sharks.”

  • Comment 68, posted at 26.05.08 09:42:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 67) : I’m not sure of that… in fact, I have a nasty feeling that there’s homework that hasn’t been done here.

    Beast apparently only becomes elgible in June or July. He has been in the country for at least 4 years though, by my reckoning. I don’t recall Mujati being here for as long

  • Comment 69, posted at 26.05.08 09:43:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • He is and always will be a plonker.

  • Comment 70, posted at 26.05.08 09:55:33 by Sauce Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) :
    Well 6 months ago, apparently, Mujati didnt have a work permit.

    One wonders how this tide of xenophobia in SA must be working on the 3 ZimBoks’ psyche. They must all have friends and family that are or could be affected, hell they themselves could be directly affected. Maybe that s for another thread on another day.

  • Comment 71, posted at 26.05.08 09:57:41 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 71) : on another site.

  • Comment 72, posted at 26.05.08 09:58:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Sauce (Comment 70) : maybe we should lock you and fyndraai in a room together ;)

  • Comment 73, posted at 26.05.08 10:01:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 72) :
    Surely if it started affecting provincial / Springbok rugby players you would discuss it? or not? :shock:

  • Comment 74, posted at 26.05.08 10:20:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 74) : No. There are plenty of other places to discuss political violence.

  • Comment 75, posted at 26.05.08 10:32:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • Wow, so if Beast was intimidated into fleeing the country it wouldnt warrant a mention here.

  • Comment 76, posted at 26.05.08 10:55:32 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 76) :

    No that would be mentioned, but if his auntie’s, uncle’s, cousin’s sister in law got killed, while extremely sad, it would have nothing to do with rugby and a lot to do with the political situation in the country which can then be discussed elsewhere.

  • Comment 77, posted at 26.05.08 11:01:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I was amazed when Straueli was originally appointed at the Sharks. He did not do too badly as coach here, but surely an HR related position was not on after his WC debacle ?

    Someone told me at the time that it would come back to haunt the Sharks. :(

  • Comment 78, posted at 26.05.08 11:02:42 by yossarian Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 77) :
    Well that reasonable.
    My original posting was to do with the psyche that the situation could have on the Zim players and if one considers that there could be 3 of them on the field in the Bok team at any one time then how your friends and family are being treated by the people who you are now representing will have an effect on you.
    I personally think that these guys already need some special attention.

  • Comment 79, posted at 26.05.08 11:11:54 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 79) : let’s just cross that bridge if and when we ever come to it, ok?

  • Comment 80, posted at 26.05.08 11:15:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 80) :
    OK

  • Comment 81, posted at 26.05.08 11:33:54 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • there are too many questions that cant be answered here.
    i just want to know who we’re going to have available for the cc but have to wait for PdV to make his choices

  • Comment 82, posted at 26.05.08 11:35:25 by spykerbaard Reply

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  • Oh f*ck… I just hope Salmo doesn’t find this arti :)

  • Comment 83, posted at 07.11.08 15:05:15 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • So this where Keo now posts his anti-Strauli nonsense?

  • Comment 84, posted at 07.11.08 15:40:19 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 84) : he he

  • Comment 85, posted at 07.11.08 15:54:26 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • Well I wouldn’t have if you hadn’t dragged it out of the abyss.

    Maybe its about time to revisit this story and forever lay bare the stories about Rudolf.
    I can only presume that your source was Brad Barrit – considering that he is the only one of this “very unhappy” team to be leaving, that and your very good friendship with him. :wink:

  • Comment 86, posted at 07.11.08 16:21:23 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 86) : scandal! No… the source here was (allegedly) Jake White. Brad is far too loyal to ever say shit like this.

    Look – I think it’s true that I DO actually have to do a positive piece about Strools. I will tell you that he is not universally liked within Natal circles, but a lot of what was said above is, in all likelihood, not true. At the time that I wrote this, though, I did believe that it was.

  • Comment 87, posted at 07.11.08 16:25:21 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 87) :
    You’ll give the guy a heart attack if its too positive.

    Never for 1 minute thought it was Brad, but just thought that by mentioning him, as the only leaver, would sort of further highlight how NOT unhgappy the squad probably are.

  • Comment 88, posted at 07.11.08 16:55:14 by Salmonoid Reply
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