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Did Bok fever trip Sharks?


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Sharks, Springboks on 27 May 2008 at 09:11

The Sharks’ poor showing against the Waratahs in Saturday’s Super 14 semi-final may have been the result of players’ anxiety over Springbok selection.

News 24 reports that, that was the view of Springbok coach Peter de Villiers on Monday when he reflected on the Sharks’ sloppy performance which resulted in a 28-13 hammering in Sydney on Saturday.

“Maybe I am the cause of their (Sharks) performance,” said De Villiers.

“Maybe what we did wrong was to fill the gaps that were left after their names were withdrawn because they reached the semi-final.

“What happened then was that at the back of their minds they would have been asking themselves: ‘where do I fit in, and if I fit in (the Springbok picture)at all’. Stuff like that.

“We will never know but we’ll have to sit down so that if the same situation plays itself out again next year, we’ll be able to do the right thing for the players.”

De Villiers said the decision to omit the names of the semifinal-bound players was taken by the Super 14 coaches and himself, mainly because it was feared that the matter of Springbok selection could affect the mindset of the players and equally, prove distracting.

“Next time we will definitely ask the players for their views on the matter.

How the players feel on this subject is what should really count, they are the most important.

De Villiers said it was quite possible that if players had known that they were in the Springbok training squad they might have lifted their personal performances to prove that they were worthy selections.

He added that on the flip side, players who had failed to make the training squad would also have gone out to prove that the selectors had erred.

Both scenarios he felt would have enhanced the Sharks’ performances on the day.



40 Comments

  • Some Valid points but answer me this then.

    What was Epi’s excuse? :wink:

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.05.08 09:12:38 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    There timing has always been sumwhat of a problem… :mad: Hope they do start thinking before they speak in future…at least someone has noticed… :roll:

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.05.08 09:18:10 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • It is a difficult call IMO.

    So the 11 guys who made the squad could maybe have ben more relaxed and more bouyed by the fact that they were in the squad, thus making them play better.

    The ones who didn’t make it are the concerns though, would they have upped their game to show the selectors got it wrong (as suggested above) or would they have “sulked” and lost? (that will differ from individual to individual IMO)

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.05.08 09:23:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I don’t know – I think it was more of an in-house problem on the eve of the semi. Think the guys were not happy and it showed.

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.05.08 09:26:33 by Nessa Reply

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  • Hello All

    I am back from my trip to SA. Man, the atmosphere at the Chiefs game was AWESOME…such a pity that we couldn’t have snuck a home semi. Can’t complain about the result in Sydney, we were totally outplayed!

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.05.08 09:43:16 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 5) :

    Thanks for organising to have a drink with me… :roll:

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.05.08 09:49:02 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Doesn’t make much sense to me. Could just as well say it was because Jupiter wasn’t properly aligned with Uranus.

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.05.08 09:53:30 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

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  • I think we must be honest and say that the Waratahs gave a flawless performance of controlled agression that shook us off our game.
    We can debate internal bust-ups but the truth is the Aussies were just damn good on the day. Of course it didn’t help that the Epic Mistake knocked on 5 times in the first receiver channel, and Ruan was practising soccer headers. In short we were wussies and we rolled over and played dead. So much for the Stormers having the gay pack.

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.05.08 10:00:10 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Nessa (Comment 4) :

    Vanessa – I agree 100% – but my opinion was of their timing in general – not sepcifcally this one…although it could also have had a impact – i dont think that is the rootcause though…

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.05.08 10:02:33 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 8) :

    I agree with that, no matter whether the players were announced or not, the Tahs would still have beaten us with our performance that day.

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.05.08 10:02:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) :

    KSA…but THAT’s the thing…IF there was no worrying about being bok or not, or in-house politics inside the camp…would our performance not perhaps have been that of the champions we shoudl be?

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.05.08 10:05:02 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 11) :

    I don’t think so. The tahs played damn good rugby they beat us by 15 points twice this season.

    Our excuses (legit or not) were different each time, but we DI still lose.

    I will not be surprised (actually hope) if the Tahs manage a win this weekend. Then we at least lost to the champions :wink:

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.05.08 10:10:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : we have lost to both of the sides playing on Saturday ;)

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.05.08 10:13:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • Come on let’s not look for excuses for the defeat…. we were beaten by a team that played better rugby….period.

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.05.08 10:16:14 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Outplayed by a superior brand…

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.05.08 10:16:32 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) :

    Men cannot reason.. :roll: :wink:

    In other words…if all was well in the camp and we played like we played against the chiefs for ex….then maybe we would not have lost. The Tahs played great – no doubt – but if all was well the outcome might have been different – saying that we played shockingly on Saturday…we dont always play like that – imo one of our worst performances this year..so if we played even one of our average games (as we did for most of the season) the results may have been different….I am not good with words – but are you at least seeing my reasoning? :wink:

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.05.08 10:16:45 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) :

    :lol: TRUE!!!!!!! :oops:

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.05.08 10:19:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 14) :

    I agree and not looking for excuses – ON THE DAY we were beaten by the better team…but we also played a bad game ON THE DAY… :cool:

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.05.08 10:19:42 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • The Tahs played great – no doubt – but if all was well the outcome might have been different

    That is where we differ.

    Might have been, Could even have been, but i don’t think it Would have been. :sad:

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.05.08 10:20:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 19) :

    I said MIGHT…. :wink: Give me my little bit of hope you glass-half-empty male! :wink:

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.05.08 10:21:47 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 6) :

    Ja – I think it’s favouritism personally. :wink:

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.05.08 10:25:39 by Nessa Reply

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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 20) :

    Obviously your husband doesn’t have you under control. In MY house the Glass is always FULL. :wink: (even if I have to fill it myself :oops: )

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.05.08 10:29:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 22) :

    There is no controlling Ice – not by her husband or by anyone. :wink:

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.05.08 10:30:03 by Nessa Reply

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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 20) :

    Maybe being the Forever-optimist is why a am so good at sticking in my support for the Sharks…. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    @Nessa (Comment 21) :

    Sies vir julle… :twisted:

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.05.08 10:30:32 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 16) :

    They took us apart in consecutive games…

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.05.08 10:31:07 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 24) :

    :oops: Sorry – meant it in a good way. Like you just the way you are.

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.05.08 10:32:16 by Nessa Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 22) :

    Nope he is not… :twisted: :twisted: but no worries…i also have to fill te glass myself.. :wink:

    @Nessa (Comment 23) :

    Come to think of it…not even I am in control of Ice.. :wink:

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.05.08 10:33:37 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 25) :

    Bryce – yeah they did.. :oops: maybe would have been not such a hammering though..or (just give me another say)..I dont blame the bok thing – I am simply saying…if the mind set was right and everything else was RIGHT – it was do-able…no team is unbeatable…I mean – we have beaten them before so the Crusaders…we get beaten by the bulls an other times we beat them with 14 men…

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.05.08 10:36:43 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @Nessa (Comment 26) :

    No harm done, Nessie…just unhappy that I was not invited for the drink…I get phoned at an ungawdly hour the night before the game.. :wink: but I cannot be taken for a drink.. :twisted:

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.05.08 10:44:51 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 29) :

    At least you got a phone call! :sad:

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.05.08 10:46:06 by Nessa Reply

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  • LOL Ness = from # 21 I concluded you did go for a drink! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.05.08 10:51:36 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 31) :

    Nope.

    Rob is the only one who was brave enough to have a drink with you and I.

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.05.08 10:53:53 by Nessa Reply

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  • @Nessa (Comment 32) :

    BraveHeart Robs… :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.05.08 10:55:22 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Ice, what the guys are saying is that we support a second rate team and that no matter how good or crap they play they will still lose. I on the other hand think that you have a point.

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.05.08 11:52:06 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 34) : Second rate game plan…

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.05.08 12:12:52 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 34) :

    GEEZ – there is ONE thats understanding me!!! :grin: :grin:

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.05.08 12:21:39 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 35) :
    Saturdays performance, strategy, execution, everything… was below second rate. They can do better and they can beat the Tah,s – if at the top of their game.

    @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 36) :
    Well if I didnt understand your point then I too would have to agree that the team is playing without the hope of winning anything – I dont buy that.

    And whats more the “sweets” bit did it for me the other day.

  • Comment 37, posted at 27.05.08 12:44:48 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Yur such an intelligent and understaning guy, Sweets! :wink:

  • Comment 38, posted at 27.05.08 12:55:08 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 38) :
    I get that sometimes – just dont understand why its only from the blondes. :wink:

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.05.08 13:00:11 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 39) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: We are obviously more insightful than the others… :wink:

  • Comment 40, posted at 27.05.08 13:17:05 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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