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Pulling down the maul legalized for Tri-Nations


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Tri Nations on 2 Jun 2008 at 17:44
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Collapsing of the maul will be permitted in this year’s Tri-Nations, which kicks off with a match between South Africa and New Zealand on July 5, following an agreement by the Sanzar nations to implemented the ELVs in the tournament.

At a meeting of representatives of South Africa, New Zealand and Australia in New Zealand on Monday it was agreed that the Experimental Law Variations that were used in the Super 14 tournament will also be put into practice in the Tri-Nations – plus the addition of two additional new laws to permit the pulling down of the maul and remove the requirement that teams match numbers at the lineout.

Dan Retief writes for Superrugby that the additional laws will be in operation when the new laws are trialed worldwide from August 1.

“We believe the laws we will play in the nine matches of the Tri-Nations will provide a rigorous examination of the most fundamental of the ELVs,” said Jonathan Stones, CEO of SA Rugby.

”We discussed a range of laws options from playing under the old laws, (as they will apply in our June tour programmes) to the “new” ELVs that will apply worldwide from August 1.

“We could not immediately agree on which set to apply as all of them had their merits within the complex laws schedule that has been a product of the ELV process in the southern hemisphere. However the solution we agreed on allows our players to approach the competition with the confidence of having played a full Super 14 season under these laws while adding in two that are straightforward, clear-cut and leave no room for the nuances of interpretation.”

The Springboks will play the All Blacks in Wellington on July 5 in the first match of this year’s nine-test programme.



23 Comments

  • I know of a few people who will be happy about being allowed to collapse the maul.

    I will be interested to see how the number in the LO is applied.

    In simpler language from 365: In the line-outs numbers will not count. Teams, regardless of whether they are throwing in or not, will be allowed to put as many players as they like into a line-out.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.06.08 17:48:16 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Collapsing the maul and hands in the ruck were the two worst laws in the Australian Rugby Championship… the breakdown became a stalemate of wrestling every time…

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.06.08 17:57:42 by bryce_in_oz Reply
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  • hmmm, i dunno about introducing new laws into test matches where the players haven’t even had a chance to play them. sure these laws have been trialed, but the test players have never seen them.

    there are some limits to this maul collapse maul are their not? can’t just collapse any maul, can’t remember what they are, anyone know?

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.06.08 18:09:09 by knersboy Reply
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  • should be

    “maul collapse law are there not”

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.06.08 18:20:29 by knersboy Reply
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  • @knersboy (Comment 3) :

    it is the same laws as the S14 with these two added and it is only being trialed in the 3N’s.

    The will be very few if any players who didn’t play S14 who play 3N’s.

    allows our players to approach the competition with the confidence of having played a full Super 14 season under these laws while adding in two that are straightforward, clear-cut and leave no room for the nuances of interpretation.”

    Remember that the Wales and Italy test are still being played under the old laws with NO ELV’S in them.

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.06.08 20:18:52 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) : Confusion city!

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.06.08 20:56:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • Is there a minimum number of players required for a line out?

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.06.08 22:13:02 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 7) : 2?

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.06.08 22:13:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : No idea. But think it’s a good law. Maybe refs can now concentrate more on crooked throw ins.

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.06.08 22:17:29 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • with players able to pull down a maul, there won’t be any need for defending teams to load the lineout. it means 3 big players can stand in the lineout and a second defensive wall can be made 5m away. this could lead to some innovative defensive play. this is definitely going to make teams think twice about going for a lineout when they receive a penalty in the oppositions 22. this may even lower the number of tries scored per game, epecially in sa where domkrag is most of the teams gameplay. teams like the bulls are definately going to be effected badly. and thank goodness dick isn’t bringing his conservative attitude to the sharks anymore as a large portion of the sharks tries scored in the s14 came from mauls and lineouts. this is great news for backline players. they will feature a lot more in games now. it is about time the backline earned their spots. rugby was definately turning into a 10 man game.

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.06.08 10:14:21 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 10) : well, there’s no point in contesting a lineout at all anymore. You would never have more than 1 guy opposing it, cos there’d be no point

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.06.08 10:28:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • rob but you’ll need at least three big guys to pull down a maul or set up a ruck. but different tactics will be used depending on where the lineout is set. it opens up a lot of new avenues to score.

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.06.08 10:31:07 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 12) : ok – it’s 4h30 where I am :)

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.06.08 10:33:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • where ru hiding out now?

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.06.08 10:41:36 by try time Reply

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  • one interesting thing though, before the s14 started everyone said that the elv’s would do away with big strong forwards. how wrong they were. the s14 showed that without a big pack you cannot get go forward ball to release the backs.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.06.08 10:45:54 by try time Reply

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  • although a point being missed here is that the maul cannot be pulled down by taking out players legs. it has to be brought down by pulling the player from above the hips down. this means a good team will still be able to keep a maul going.

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.06.08 11:04:12 by try time Reply

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  • Rugby is a game for players on their feet. Why should pulling down
    or collapsing of the maul not be allowed? The lawmakers are trying
    to make the game a more fair and open contest and look like winning.

    In the laws a line-out is formed by at least two players from each team lining up in readiness for the ball to be thrown in between
    them.

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.06.08 11:07:11 by rugby brain Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 14) : Reston, Virginia

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.06.08 11:12:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : sis man rob keep your sexual.., oh sorry i missed the ‘i’.

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.06.08 11:17:36 by try time Reply

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  • i tyhought you were resting on….oh never mind. :lol:

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.06.08 11:19:11 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 19) : @try time (Comment 20) :
    Tch! :smile:

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.06.08 12:50:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • This is actually good news…

    If you are allowed to collaps a maul you will not need too many people in the line-out…so even if the team that throws in wins the ball and start to drive they can be stopped by one player (if he comes from an on-side position of cozz)…

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.06.08 16:25:43 by Hmmm Reply

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  • This will also mean that there will be a lot more competition in the line-out and a greater need to a Victor Matfield type lock….

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.06.08 16:26:48 by Hmmm Reply

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