KSA Shark ©

Why Boks can claim Tri-Nations trophy


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks, Tri Nations on 10 Jun 2008 at 22:51

After watching Saturday’s dismantling of Wales, I can’t help but feel that this year presents the best chance the Springboks have had in a long time to claim southern hemisphere bragging rights and in doing so, hold the World Cup and Tri-Nations trophies at the same time, writes Murray Staats.

Staats writes in The Daily News that just looking at the Bok bench that included Victor Matfield, Percy Montgomery, C J van der Linde, Ruan Pienaar and Bismarck du Plessis, and with Ryan Kankowski, Frans Steyn and JP Pietersen waiting in the wings, it highlights what incredible depth Springbok rugby has at the moment.

When you compare this to the retirement of Wallaby stalwarts George Gregan, Stephen Larkham and Chris Latham who boast more than 320 international caps between them and the exodus All Blacks like Luke McAlister, Carl Hayman, Jerry Collins, Aaron Mauger, Doug Howlett and Chris Jack that will stretch coach Graham Henry’s resources to the limit.

I thought the Springboks put in a relatively well-drilled performance against the northern hemisphere champions, and the only concern for Peter de Villiers would be the set scrums where debutant Brian Mujati struggled at times.

Although it must be said it doesn’t often happen that a Springbok scrum is outweighed by 60kg.

The other debutant, Andries Bekker impressed and now joins his dad Hennie Bekker on the Springbok father and son roll of honour.

Dad, Hennie, who inexplicably only earned two Test caps, was unfortunate to play in the same era as such formidable locks like “man mountain” Louis Moolman, Moaner van Heerden, Kevin de Klerk and Schalk Burger snr.

The towering 2.08m Andries has a similar problem with Bakkies Botha, Victor Matfield and Johann Muller around, but at 24, time is definitely on his side and the smart money is on him passing his dad’s Test cap total.

Butch James took off from where he left off at the World Cup, hardly putting a foot wrong, deservedly earning the man of the match plaudits and on his outside Jean de Villiers was a consistent source of irritation for the Welsh defence.

Former Springbok captains Naas Botha and Gary Teichmann continuously stress the importance of settled combinations and this is where I believe the Tri-Nations will be won or lost. I’d bring back C J van der Linde’s stability and experience as the starting tighthead, return to the Matfield and Botha lock status quo and my loose-forward trio would be Schalk Burger, Juan Smith and Ryan Kankowski or Pierre Spies.

On Super 14 form, Enrico Januarie deserved his call-up, but his suspension because of “rowdy” behaviour would have done little to improve his chances of usurping Fourie du Preez, despite the latter’s indifferent form this season.

Impact

I’d like to see a centre pairing of Steyn and De Villiers, and Adrian Jacobs used as an impact player with Montgomery, Bryan Habana and Conrad Jantjies completing the back three.

At the end of this month De Villiers and his Springboks will head for Wellington where the Tri-Nations campaign kicks off, followed by the daunting prospect of games in Dunedin and Perth in consecutive weeks.

While the young guns like Kankowski, Bekker, Mujati, Peter Grant and Tonderai Chavhanga all deserve their places in the squad for Down Under, warming up in a change room at Dunedin’s “House of Pain” ahead of a game against the All Blacks, will be a lot less intimidating, surrounded by the calm, experienced presence that the likes of John Smit, Matfield, Burger, James and co can offer.

The All Blacks fielded six new caps in their unconvincing win over Ireland on Saturday, and the time is ripe to capitalise on this inexperience.



65 Comments

  • The Ab’s might have appeared unconvincing, the weather wasn’t. O Driscol was so cold after the game he couldn’t talk. Its cold enough as it is, then add a little water to the equasion and its murder. So I wouldn’t read too much in this last weeks performance. The AB’s scrum chewed up the Irish. And if Mujati is as inept as he sounds( I didn’t see the game) theses AB’s are going to eat up the Bok scrum, even without Haymans and co. And that then will translate into how the backs will play, and if we start playing mindless SA kicking game well thats the Tri Nations hopes gone. Play your strongest pack and leave the rest to the backs to create.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.06.08 01:48:29 by Dynamite Reply
    DynamiteVodacom Cup player
     
  • @Dynamite (Comment 1) :

    The AB front-rowers were some of the most impressive I have seen all year… loose and tight… particularly in that weather (O’Driscoll looked dangerously like he had hypo-thermia afterwards… serious hospital territory)… so too the loosies… it’s going to be interesting to see what the Wobblies do this weekend…

    Facing up to a huge 3N… but for once we have a decent bench…

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.06.08 02:25:00 by bryce_in_oz Reply
    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
     
  • Steyn :evil:

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.06.08 07:39:39 by Charlie Reply
    CharlieSuper Rugby player
     
  • Some good Bok sides have gone to NZ (&Oz) and lost. I’ll adopt a wait and see approach for now. As they say the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.06.08 08:00:57 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply
    McLovinAssistant coach
     
  • Ah the eternal optimist blinded by a RWC win and weak northern hemisphere team….i suspect this chap will be the first to call for Div’s head post the first Tri-nations game.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.06.08 08:06:59 by Sauce Reply
    Author
    Worcestershire SauceCurrie Cup player
     
  • Another call for Steyn? Eish the guy has been so woeful in form he doesn’t deserve to be in the 22, Butch, JDV and Jacobs were excellent as
    a 10, 12 & 13 – why muck with it?

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.06.08 08:12:17 by Sauce Reply
    Author
    Worcestershire SauceCurrie Cup player
     
  • Ah, the voice of reason…

    We need you to write an article or two Sauce.

    Come on! Put the drink down and put pen to paper (or start typing) :roll:

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.06.08 08:16:47 by wpw aka The Tank Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • Talking 3N already? Hhayi-bo ! :shock:

    Let’s get our combinations right and then go to the tournament as WC and underdogs. So that means all editors should chuck these kinds of articles in the recycling bin.

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.06.08 08:18:43 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • bs

    Do you agree that Steyn should not start for the Boks???

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.06.08 08:26:24 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • @wpw (Comment 9) :

    For the next game – YES. But I’d like him to play off the bench.

    He needs to regain his FOCUS and put his skills to good use. He’s doing himself a lot of injustice right now but I’m certain that he’ll turn the corner.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.06.08 08:39:36 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • He should play CC to regain his confidence.

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.06.08 08:45:05 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • @wpw (Comment 9) : I don’t even think this should be debated.

    Jean and Adi have carried their s14 form to the BOKS. They were just so PRESENT in the game . If the centres are scoring and creating tries – what more can we ask for ?

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.06.08 08:46:43 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • @wpw (Comment 11) : I’d be happier with Ruan going back to the CC to play 10. :grin:

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.06.08 08:48:20 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • But won’t Barritt be playing 10?

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.06.08 08:57:41 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • You don’t disgard a player of obvious talent after a average season(being shunted by the Sharks coaching staff) to boot , JP Pieterson an example and is being rightfully given a chance to regain he’s 2007 form..and so should Steyn be given that opportunity.

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.06.08 08:59:41 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

    csbSuper Rugby player
     
  • @wpw (Comment 14) : Then Barritt will move back to 12…

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.06.08 09:05:29 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • CSB

    You also don’t pick a player who is hopelessly off form for the Bok side.

    As much as I rate Steyn and Pienaar and JPP, they shouldn’t be involved with the Bok 22.

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.06.08 09:10:31 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • wpw, I guess so but its still done and sometimes it pays off.Conradie a case in point , was not even a regular starter at the Stormers and comes in and now is probably the #1 9 for the Boks at present.And if you gonna give these players a go to regain form then against Wales is the way to go.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.06.08 09:16:59 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

    csbSuper Rugby player
     
  • For the record I’ll keep the midfield as is , All the talk of Adi being a liability on defence was proved wrong on Sat. I watched the game again and he’s defence was solid against Wales.

    I stand by though that Steyn needs to be on the bench and given a run..personally don’t think its healthy to shut the youngster out.

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.06.08 09:20:28 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

    csbSuper Rugby player
     
  • CSB

    Who will you drop from the bench? Ruan?

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.06.08 09:50:21 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • @wpw (Comment 20) : you’re just waiting for him to say “Peter Grant” so you can have a little rant, aren’t you?

    Predictable in your old age, Wesali! ;)

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.06.08 09:52:34 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • @wpw (Comment 20) : Peter Grant

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.06.08 09:53:39 by molly Reply
    Competition WinnerCompetition Winner Author
    mollySuper Rugby player
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : Dammit and I fell for it

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.06.08 09:54:18 by molly Reply
    Competition WinnerCompetition Winner Author
    mollySuper Rugby player
     
  • Mind you, will Pienaar be on the bench this time with Januarie coming back?

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.06.08 09:55:46 by molly Reply
    Competition WinnerCompetition Winner Author
    mollySuper Rugby player
     
  • @molly (Comment 24) : I would have Bolla starting and Januarie on the bench this week

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.06.08 09:58:31 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • Not really Rob. I was expecting him to say Ruan.

    If it is Ruan then who will cover 9?

    Anyway, i’d prefer Grant on the bench than the overrated Steyn.

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.06.08 10:05:44 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • My team for this week:

    Percy
    Chavs
    Adi
    JDV
    Habana
    Butch
    Bolla
    Kanko
    Juan
    46
    Matfield
    Bakkies
    Mujati
    Smit
    CJ

    Bench: Beast, Bismarck, Spies, Bekker, Januarie, Grant, JPP/Odwa

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.06.08 10:08:40 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • To suggest Steyn had a woeful season in a backline not performing… is to suggest you did not watch the entire Shark’s season… but I’d expect nothing less from the Jaco’s… Adi was the 2nd choice 13 for the Sharks and had 2 games starting… one woeful and one ‘good’ at best… he shone against a crap Wales side with Butch and JDV inside him… IMO so to would Steyn and most other of the Bok centres…

    Steyn can do plenty the rest don’t seem to be able to do… against proper opposition…

    I’d have him on the bench this weekend and starting against Ireland…

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.06.08 10:11:54 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
     
  • You could drop JPP/odwa for Steyn.
    But i don’t see PdV dropping Jantjies from the match 22.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.06.08 10:13:16 by molly Reply
    Competition WinnerCompetition Winner Author
    mollySuper Rugby player
     
  • @wpw (Comment 27) : BJ for Mujati and you’ve got yourself a deal

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.06.08 10:23:18 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • When are we playing Ireland Bryce?

    Steyn is hopelessly off form. He does’nt deserve to start or play from the bench.

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.06.08 10:24:43 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • Rob

    I thought BJ was injured. If he’s available he should play.

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.06.08 10:26:11 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • @wpw (Comment 32) : I think he’s available… I heard he was training in te shadow team cos Mujati was sore…

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.06.08 10:27:21 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • @wpw (Comment 31) : “hopelessly” is a strong word, don’t you think?

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.06.08 10:29:18 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • @blackshark (Comment 34) : yes. When a player has that much raw talent, there’s always hope ;)

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.06.08 10:34:28 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • bs

    Maybe it is too strong.

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.06.08 10:52:55 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • @wpw (Comment 36) : I wouldn’t have him in the starting team right now, but would definitely try find a spot for him on the bench

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.06.08 11:00:55 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : …in place of Ruan…who must go back to the Sharks to hone his flyhalf skills. This will enable Brad to move back to his position at centre. This will be good for the Sharks and also increase their chances of selection for the Boks in future. :wink:

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.06.08 11:09:40 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • But Ruan will probably stay with the team till FdP returns anyway…so…

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.06.08 11:14:40 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • @blackshark (Comment 39) : problem is, we’ve got the idiot Frenchman wandering around as well… My (vain) hope is the the Sharks have only one option at flyhal, they’ll be forced to play him all the time and that way we’ll get some continuity.

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.06.08 11:18:15 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • I hope that one person will be Ruan…then the continuity would make more sense for the Sharks’ and Boks’ long term plans.

    Playing Brad there for the entire Currie Cup will just take us back to square one.

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.06.08 11:40:14 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • @blackshark (Comment 41) : unless we than play him there in next year’s Super 14 as well, with Steyn at 12?

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.06.08 11:53:17 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 42) :
    not tooo shabby

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.06.08 11:57:12 by Bok-El Reply

    Kal-ElCurrie Cup player
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 42) : Mmmhh…and then what would we do with Mr. Pienaar?

    I’m still not sure of PdV’s intentions with him either… :???:

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.06.08 11:58:55 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • @blackshark (Comment 44) :
    He will then be outside centre…

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.06.08 12:02:16 by Bok-El Reply

    Kal-ElCurrie Cup player
     
  • Sorry to interupt you lot, but myself have only one wish before even thinking about a 3 Nation win. The biggest prize in rugby (ja bigger then a WC), only ONE win on NZ soil will do it for me.

    Think we can do it this year.

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.06.08 12:06:28 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
     
  • @Bok-El (Comment 45) : And Keegan will play fullback… yes…it all makes sense now. :cool:

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.06.08 12:08:44 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • PB,that sir,would not be bad at all.

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.06.08 12:08:49 by PJLD Reply
    Administrator
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
     
  • @PaarlBok (Comment 46) : :razz: Oh…just thinking about it…

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.06.08 12:09:50 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • Think if we can break that duck, we’ll be in good shape whoever come in front of us. Then I’ll take the nr1 tag.

    Long time no see, struggle a bit with all this rainy weather. :cool:

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.06.08 12:12:25 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
     
  • You struggling?I took a boat to work this morning!

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.06.08 12:14:41 by PJLD Reply
    Administrator
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
     
  • PB

    We can definitely do it this year. It all depends on the team PDV selects.

    If he selects a young side our chances will be as good as the Sharks winning the CC in the next 10 years. :lol:

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.06.08 12:15:00 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • PJLD

    I hope its not a ‘slowboat’

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.06.08 12:15:32 by wpw Reply
    Administrator
    wpwAssistant coach
     
  • @wpw (Comment 52) :

    He is pretty much on the right track if you ask me. When the big boys like Schalk, Mossie (hope he get back soon)& FdP we’ll be in a great position. We just need to get the newbies like Watson, Mujatsi, Chavangha exct get over their green jersey jitters to have a great squad.

    I am not that prov biased but really the WP was always our missing ingredient on the Bok table.

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.06.08 12:20:37 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
     
  • @PaarlBok (Comment 54) : For South Africa to have a strong squad we need all the unions to be on fire. So it’s all good…

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.06.08 12:54:48 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!Super Rugby player
     
  • Im gonna get in to trouble for this :twisted: but here goes I can bet u anything if Steyn was black he’d be in the 22 without a doubt :shock: He is not hopelessly overrated, peoples memories a rather short I’d hazard a guess.

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.06.08 14:30:31 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

    csbSuper Rugby player
     
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 56) : you are. Stoppit immediately, I say! :wink:

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.06.08 14:44:43 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • Sorry Robd :razz: My man love for Steyn is in the same vein that wpw had for Big Steady Eddie :wink:

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.06.08 14:50:11 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

    csbSuper Rugby player
     
  • If I could steal one player from the Sharks for the Lions it would be Steyn… :grin:

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.06.08 14:52:06 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

    walter van Lions WorldCurrie Cup player
     
  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 59) :

    Wise words Walter

    But then- You dont have the iSSue that Bradley MUST play!

    :grin:

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.06.08 14:58:12 by Oranje Orakel Reply

    wiLLemVodacom Cup player
     
  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 59) :

    Absolutly Walter along with Smit we could build a good team around them.

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.06.08 14:59:42 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

    csbSuper Rugby player
     
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 61) :

    John Smit? Noooooooooooo! I’d rather take Bismarck and Kanko!

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.06.08 15:04:53 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

    walter van Lions WorldCurrie Cup player
     
  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 62) :

    We’ve lacked good leadership since the days of Jannie Breedt.. :smile:

    But hey throw in Kanko and Bismark I won’t complain.

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.06.08 15:10:29 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

    csbSuper Rugby player
     
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 63) : keep dreaming, boys. The maid will be in shortly with clean sheets ;)

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.06.08 15:11:57 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylanHead Coach
     
  • “I am not that prov biased but really the WP was always our missing ingredient on the Bok table.”

    Hello Jaco…

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.06.08 15:39:00 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
     

Add Comment

You must be logged in to post a comment.