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Humble pie


Written by Jonathan Burt (VinChainSaw)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 11 Jun 2008 at 13:37

So rumours have it that I am due a good serving of humble pie following on my selection article of last week.

Now while I feel you are understandably outraged that I had the audacity to question the mighty brains trust (an oxymoron if ever there was one) in SA Rugby, I also feel a modicum of perspective is needed.

First and foremost, I still stand by my comments in the article. Nothing I saw on the weekend made me change my mind, especially in the light of that excuse of a performance that Gatland’s men delivered.

They came to South Africa looking for respect. Now answer yourself honestly if they deserved any after Saturday? No? Me neither and thus I cannot in all honesty retract my comments because I don’t think they were tested adequately.

First up, de Villers did say he would be picking on S14 form. Along with that mysterious pecking order list that never came to fruition, I didn’t see the form selections.

As such, despite the weekend’s performances, I still feel Kanko and Kockett were hard done by. The fact that Bolla had his first stormer in 4 seasons doesn’t change that fact.

Secondly, Spies is not currently a better player than Kankowski. He had a few barnyard runs and probably ended up having played a fairly good game but, in my humble opinion, Kanko would probably have had an even better game. Sorry but based on what I’ve seen this year Kanko is light years ahead of Spies currently.

As for Bolla, I didn’t think he deserved to be there based on his patchy Super14 form. I’m sorry but one Slaptjips Roussouw performance still hasn’t changed my mind. If any of you are willing to change your opinion of a player based on one performance then I’m sorry but I’m not prepared to debate the merits with you.

My other criticism was of the lack of kicker. Fair enough Butch proved me wrong and for that I’ll have a wee bite of humble pie. But how was I supposed to know he would have an immaculate kicking game? He’s never been a bloody kicker and only kicked three penalties for Bath in an entire season! Yes he kicked superbly well on Saturday but the fact remains that, despite this, it was still a high risk manoeuvre from Piet Snor.

And finally I feel it needs to be said that Wales were shit. The side that dawdled around the pitch on Saturday was a far cry from the side that won the Six Nations, both in terms of playing personnel and in terms of the game they actually played.

So yeah, I’m well chuffed with the victory but let’s not go overboard. I’ll have a sliver of humble pie but I do not think any questions were answered and it was always a game we were going to win, irrespective of what happened based purely on SA’s player depth, superior fitness from the ELVs and homeground advantage.

If you think that with all this going for us that this was some sort of miracle victory or some sort of smashing then you are sorely mistaken. This game played perfectly to the playbook and the result went the way it should.

This bodes as a good year for Bok rugby but I do get the feeling that’s due to the shambles that almost every other rugby playing nation is in currently, Wales simply being the first to be put to the sword.

So let me have it but remember, it was only Wales. And not even a good Wales at that.



94 Comments

  • Yeah okay let me have it.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.06.08 13:39:28 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Did I mention Wales were shit? :razz:

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.06.08 13:45:46 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Ah Some legacy VinMeister stuFF

    That “pie” might just get riper/ going oFF as the season progresses
    :grin:

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.06.08 13:51:48 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Secondly, Spies is not currently a better player than Kankowski. He had a few barnyard runs and probably ended up having played a fairly good game but, in my humble opinion, Kanko would probably have had an even better game. Sorry but based on what I’ve seen this year Kanko is light years ahead of Spies currently.

    I’m buying you a beer! ;)

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.06.08 13:53:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • Come on Boet, you make it sound if we will lose the test. Get it over and done.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.06.08 13:55:05 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @Oranje Orakel (Comment 3) :

    Could very well be.

    Not that it’ll be difficult with NZ goign through a rather bare patch.

    I think if ever there was a time to crush them in NZ then it is now.

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.06.08 13:55:27 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 6) :

    Agree- But we will have to go there prepared and wiLLing to die

    There is no such thing as a “Bad” AB team

    And remember

    Whatever A game they have- they will play A+ against the boKKe!

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.06.08 13:57:01 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 5) :

    Not at all PB.

    It was a good solid victory.

    I was just commenting on the feedback I received after last week’s article where I was crucified to an extent.

    It seems some here seem to think that a victory over a poor Wales suddenly means some players are fantastic when they’ve been playing shit (or not playing at all) most of the season.

    Yes it was a good victory but let’s not get ahead of oursevles.

    It must be noted that I am a PdV fan. I just dont think we can stop criticising because they had a reaosnably good game.

    With silence comes complacency and with complacency comes a 4 year patch like what England went through post 2003.

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.06.08 13:57:51 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Sorry but based on what I’ve seen this year Kanko is light years ahead of Spies currently.

    It might be because you could not see much of Spies since he was ill for the best part of 8 months?

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.06.08 13:58:48 by MorneN Reply
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  • What’s a barnyard run? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.06.08 14:00:05 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • Typical response from RW’s resident suurgat! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.06.08 14:00:25 by wpw Reply
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  • You also had a lack of combination fobbe. So you eat Bolla in stead of humble pie and Butch kick the bolla out of your arse. Spies was my MOTM, he wasnt great he was HUGE. I am just happy we have two quality 8s. No word about Fluke?

    Myself think Piet Snor did a good job , just the way the experiense lot play show they need a bit of a scare. If Jake was still on board all of them would have had big heads.

    PB have his knive in for you! :cool:

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.06.08 14:01:13 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 11) : :lol:

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.06.08 14:02:26 by MorneN Reply
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  • Anycase I am off, cheers to you all.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.06.08 14:03:13 by MorneN Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 12) :

    :lol:

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.06.08 14:07:10 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • ‘He’s never been a bloody kicker and only kicked three penalties for Bath in an entire season!’

    Hate to be anal but were does that stat come from?

    According to Bath’s website Butch kicked 8 conversions & 8 Penalties in the 2007/8 season.

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.06.08 14:13:05 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • Another snippet form Bath’s website:

    ‘Renowned for his accurate goal-kicking’…

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.06.08 14:14:40 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • I was vrekken worried all last week & weekend for this Bleekbene Dragon Druids. Sies vir jou Vinnie, all your fault.

    Credit to you for taking it on the chin broer. :wink: No hard feelings.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.06.08 14:15:40 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • I cannot in all honesty retract my comments because I don’t think they were tested adequately.

    Did we really have to field our “best” side for a side that couldn’t even test the squad you clearly regard as “poor”?

    But how was I supposed to know he would have an immaculate kicking game? He’s never been a bloody kicker and only kicked three penalties for Bath in an entire season!

    Maybe you should’ve asked yourself these questions before going on an all out attack against the coach who clearly had more insight than you on Butch’s kicking abilities and form.

    Yes he kicked superbly well on Saturday but the fact remains that, despite this, it was still a high risk manoeuvre

    and since when is it illegal for a coach to take risks? especially against “shitty” opposition?

    So let me have it but remember, it was only Wales. And not even a good Wales at that.

    I don’t even know what to make of your closing statement. I respect people’s opinions, especially yours, but I’d rather you didn’t write this article. It left a funny taste in my mouth…worse than the first one…and certainly much worse than the humble pie you’re supposed to be munching on.

    That said, we all had our opinions…you were just one of the few who had the time to turn it to a long article. Butch could’ve missed 9 kicks, the Boks could’ve played badly…and the balance would’ve shifted…but none of those things happened…so take a big bite Vinny. Next time it will be someone else’s turn. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.06.08 14:19:35 by blackshark Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 12) : “Spies was my MOTM, he wasnt great he was HUGE”

    Ummm, what exactly did he doe that was so great? I saw a lot of standing around, falling off tackles, poor hands and worse decision-making.

    Spies is a legend that I’m afraid I don’t quite understand.

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.06.08 14:27:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • I started on my Pie well into the 2nd half on Sat and will now have more faith in PDV and his assistants.It could also be argued as woeful as Wales was we did not allow them to be any good cause of the immense pressue we put out on them.Anyhow I think they’l; be better come this Sat but I’m afraid the result will be pretty much the same.

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.06.08 14:40:17 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) :

    Rob I am a neutral in this Spies vs Kankowski fight. I watch the test twice and Spies had a big test from what I see. You may call it standing around , falling off tackles , poor hands but he was everywhere.

    I am not a kind of First XV , best team kind of a Bok supporter. I want 30 players in my squad, two in each position and the one able to replace the other without the team losing strength.

    If Spies & Kankowski is even, just the better. No way 15 players will play all the test and we need to get to the All Blacks level and higher when it comes to rotate or replace.

    For me both are rugby freaks and freak athletes. Spies have that bit of Schalk in him. Everywhere and able to break a game or doing hard yards. We should be thankfull we have such players.

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.06.08 14:40:18 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • South Africans are in love with players’ phyical stats.
    Spies = bloody big and very quick. Hence why South Africans think he is good.

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.06.08 14:40:58 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Robbie Fleck is a bigger legend than Pierre ‘i take steroids’ Spies

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.06.08 14:42:12 by wpw Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 19) :

    Very good commetns Blackshark.

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.06.08 14:46:40 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 22) : I don’t mind him in the squad, as long as he’s in his rightful place, which is behind the great Kanko. To be honest, on Super 14 form, I thought Vermeulen was better than him too.

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.06.08 14:47:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 21) :

    I really hope they’ll be better CSB.
    We need them to be better to make it an interesting game.

    I have no doubt the points difference will be even bigger but I also hope its because we construct tries and dont get given them through poor defence or soft turnovers.

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.06.08 14:48:16 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) :

    He has no super14 form Rob… becuase he hardly played!

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.06.08 14:49:08 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 22) :

    I agree to a certain extent PB. Especially yuour part about spies havign a bit of Schlk in him.

    But likewise Kanko has a bit of skinstad about him. And not the Skinstad of 2007 but rather the skinstad of 2000.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.06.08 14:50:12 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • He shouldn’t be playing full stop. He should think about his health…
    Bleeding lungs are not something you should mess around with in your twenties.

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.06.08 14:51:45 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 30) :

    What’s the EPO recovery time?

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.06.08 14:52:38 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Again I am neutral as a Stormer, like both this players. Kankowski will get his turn and hopefull this two will push each other to new levels even the All Blacks will dream about.

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.06.08 14:54:21 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 32) :

    It would be fantastic to see PdV use the two of them like Gatland uses Hook and Jones, the one being used to win games and the other to close down games.

    Problem is that both Spies and Kanko are ball carriers and, although their style is somewhat different, they are also very similar in that neither really like to scrap when the game gets ugly.

    Both are superb at running riot when the game breaks down a bit.

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.06.08 14:59:59 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • My 5 cents worth – I think Kanko offers much more. Let’s hope he gets a turn this weekend.

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.06.08 15:00:14 by Nessa Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : Likewise Ruan Pienaar

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.06.08 15:10:17 by PJLD Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 33) :

    Think Spies is more of a grinder and will start with him. Kankowski to cut lose as the game breaks, but really not much differense between the two. Its only the Sharks & Kiwis that think Kankowski is better and only the Brute Bulls that think Spies is better.

    I’d love to see a trio of Schalk, Spies & Smith starts in the 1 test against the Kiwis in Kiwiland. I am not sure but Spies & Schalk havent played many tests together, maybe the Poms last year?

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.06.08 15:11:10 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • Even when Spies was scoring tries regularly for the Boks (ala versus England in 2007) he was still not the finished article.

    He is not as good as people make him out to be.

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.06.08 15:20:03 by wpw Reply
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  • Last Saturdays game was a funny game – I came away from it thinking, “wow this was good” but then on analysing it, as Vinnie has done here, then a bit of the gloss is chipped away. Ironically if it wasnt for the one bit of humble pie that Vin has to eat (Butch’s kicking contribution) then the result would be pretty worrying. Four tries to two maybe a more sobering statistic considering how poor the Welsh really were.
    To me Pierre Spies was very quiete until just before the break but from there on he just grew as the game progressed. Having said that I think Kanko would have revelled in the amount of space that the Boks were given/created.

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.06.08 15:21:55 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Vin apart from the Butch’s kicking, I agree with you. It was a nice start but I still don’t know if I wanna face the AB or Wallabies with this side. The AB’s will slaugther us in the scrums and around the outside backs where Adi and Chavanga is doing duty.I reserve judgement till the 3N.

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.06.08 16:23:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) :

    Totally agree.

    You get the feeling that with a bit of pre-match video analysis a good side will identify and exploit weaknesses. If Chavanga is proven to not be a great tackler do you really think the likes of Rocokoko and co wont run at him all day instead fo running against de villiers or habs?

    But its early days yet and hopefully this was just a side put together to show we could smash those baby dragons.

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.06.08 16:26:00 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 40) : I saw a picture of Adi standing next to Frans and I couldn’t believe the difference in size. I don’t think that Frans deserves to be there but I would much rather run at Adi than Frans. Let’s see,there is 2 more weeks of experimenting maybe the 3N team might look a lot different.

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.06.08 16:30:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Having said that,I don’t think the AB’s are at there best and I have a sneaky feeling the Wallabies are gonna be our biggest problems. The Waratahs really impressed me this year

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.06.08 16:32:08 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Pokkel, how was the fishing last weekend?
    Where did you fish?

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.06.08 16:41:44 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Obviously the Vinmeister is allergic to humble pie. :twisted:

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.06.08 19:29:06 by Big Fish Reply
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  • I agree with you to an extent Vinnie…e.g Kanko ahead of Spies…although I have been reminde3d several times that Spies has never had a bad game for the Boikke…as I thought I remembered it I thought he had a bad game in the 49-0 but was told he was the only player that did not have a bad game (and this by LIONS/Sharks/Cheetahs supporters)…

    But Kockkett does not deserve to be in the final 30….was dissapointed that neither him nor Vermakk was called into teh training squad but thats about it…

    But there has to be a place for Knako!??!

    And Mujati is useless…there has to be a place for Heinke…and not cozz I am a LION…same as there has to be a place for Kanko there has to be a place for Heinke….

  • Comment 45, posted at 12.06.08 10:24:31 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) : @VinChainSaw (Comment 40) :

    I disagree….I will face the AB and Wallabies with this side…not saying we will be all out winners….but surely will stand our ground and have a good shot at beating either…

  • Comment 46, posted at 12.06.08 10:31:24 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Howzit Hmmm?

    We missed you yesterday… :wink:

  • Comment 47, posted at 12.06.08 10:34:56 by wpw Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 46) : Really ? The same starting 15 ?

  • Comment 48, posted at 12.06.08 10:41:29 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 43) : I went fly fishing with a friend up in the Balele Mountains near Utrecht. Didn’t catch a lot of fish,but did manage to catch 2kg beautifully spotted Brown Trout. It was freezing up there and spend more time drinking red wine than fishing.

  • Comment 49, posted at 12.06.08 11:04:01 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 49) : sounds like every fishing trip I’ve ever been on

  • Comment 50, posted at 12.06.08 11:07:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 50) : To the sceptical it might, but I have spend numerous days fishing non stop for 8 hours on end. It did however hit -4 deg on Saturday night and Sunday morning wasn’t much warmer so the fire place was so much more attactive

  • Comment 51, posted at 12.06.08 11:15:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 51) : eina, that is cold!

    I’ve never been a very accomplished fisherman, though

  • Comment 52, posted at 12.06.08 11:21:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) : Neither am I, but it’s a good excuse to get outside and just get away from everything

  • Comment 53, posted at 12.06.08 11:27:54 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 53) : ah – that’s why I run

  • Comment 54, posted at 12.06.08 11:35:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • I just sit in the garden and drink.

  • Comment 55, posted at 12.06.08 11:40:08 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 53) : 2kg spotted brown that’s huge… was it in a stream or stocked dam?

  • Comment 56, posted at 12.06.08 11:58:51 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 56) : i run,then i drink.

    get drunk a lot quicker thereby spending less money

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  • @PJLD (Comment 57) : Thought you okes could drink all day and night on tik? :lol:

  • Comment 58, posted at 12.06.08 12:11:28 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 49) :
    Lovely part of the world that but like you say very cold. I used to know the resident Mondi Timbers forester. He had this cottage on the Pivaan river where I spent many a good weekend flyfishing. I also fished at one or two stillwaters in the area, one named Balele (I think). Do you know the Alberts’ (Afrikaans version)

  • Comment 59, posted at 12.06.08 12:13:16 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 58) : I’ve heard similar stories,tell me something, how do you manage to juggle blogging and sheep shagging? :wink:

  • Comment 60, posted at 12.06.08 12:17:22 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 60) :

    A hellava lot of Gaffer tape and stirrups… :wink:

  • Comment 61, posted at 12.06.08 12:24:58 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • :lol: nort!

  • Comment 62, posted at 12.06.08 12:32:49 by PJLD Reply
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  • What the hell is that thing in your pic…

  • Comment 63, posted at 12.06.08 12:37:43 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 63) :

    LOL!! I was trying to work that out as well just now!! Looks like “ZET”…who had too much tik! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 64, posted at 12.06.08 12:39:55 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 64) :

    Lol… ZET… I remember having a crush on the Lady with the big hair in that when I was a wee laaitie… :oops:

    It looks like road-kill washed up on the beach…

  • Comment 65, posted at 12.06.08 12:46:30 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Looks like a flattened turd to me.

  • Comment 66, posted at 12.06.08 12:51:36 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 65) :

    I did not have a crush on the lady… :oops: :oops: but i was also a wee little girl then… :wink:

    Padkos?? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 67, posted at 12.06.08 12:54:35 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 65) : I had a huge crush on Natasha Sutherland back in the “Kideo” days…

  • Comment 68, posted at 12.06.08 12:56:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 66) : i haven’t studied all that many flattened turds in great detail ;)

  • Comment 69, posted at 12.06.08 12:58:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 63) : it is Zet since being retrenched

  • Comment 70, posted at 12.06.08 12:59:47 by PJLD Reply
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  • don’t know if you guys have seen this:
    http://www.sarugby.co.za/default.asp?des=article&id=257732

  • Comment 71, posted at 12.06.08 13:00:23 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 68) : :lol: @ rob Big teeth Natasha?

    bryce…how did you feel about Mr. Chinwag…or do you people have a thing against donkeys? :lol:

  • Comment 72, posted at 12.06.08 13:00:29 by blackshark Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 71) : nice one …to you and PdV…

  • Comment 73, posted at 12.06.08 13:02:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 71) : Didnt steve spyker her?

  • Comment 74, posted at 12.06.08 13:02:24 by PJLD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) : Not so much flattened as just ‘slap’.

  • Comment 75, posted at 12.06.08 13:02:31 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 70) :

    I am the most cleverest blonde you guys know!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 76, posted at 12.06.08 13:02:54 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 74) :

    Its his WIFE…

  • Comment 77, posted at 12.06.08 13:03:54 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • so he did then :mrgreen:

  • Comment 78, posted at 12.06.08 13:07:12 by PJLD Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 72) : I always reckoned if she could handle the donkey, she must be something special ;)

  • Comment 79, posted at 12.06.08 13:10:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 78) :

    If he was not too busy with the 120 pretoria fans…..then I suppose he did..LOL!!

  • Comment 80, posted at 12.06.08 13:10:57 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) : :shock: :cough:

  • Comment 81, posted at 12.06.08 13:11:06 by PJLD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) :

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 82, posted at 12.06.08 13:12:18 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 74), @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 75), @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 77), @PJLD (Comment 78) : what are you guys talking about?

  • Comment 83, posted at 12.06.08 13:13:13 by molly Reply
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  • he he he … so are you guys gonna ignore the Bok squad for the whole day?

  • Comment 84, posted at 12.06.08 13:13:42 by blackshark Reply

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  • Kideo

  • Comment 85, posted at 12.06.08 13:14:34 by PJLD Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 84) : Theres a thread up bs

  • Comment 86, posted at 12.06.08 13:15:37 by PJLD Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 77) : So she is/was…lol…

    @blackshark (Comment 72) :

    I’m not fussy…

    Different topic… did you guys read the American in Africa snippet on the Sharks website… didn’t realise she was the SW Milissa… interesting…

  • Comment 87, posted at 12.06.08 13:18:01 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Comment 88, posted at 12.06.08 13:19:34 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 88) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    @bryce_in_oz (Comment 87) :

    Yip – the one and only! :wink:

  • Comment 89, posted at 12.06.08 13:23:43 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 88) : ?

  • Comment 90, posted at 12.06.08 13:26:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hi u mob!!!
    Milissa is coming back in Sept. & wants to organise some tout fishing for Brian, who she is marrying in August!

  • Comment 91, posted at 12.06.08 13:32:45 by Me2 Reply

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  • @Me2 (Comment 91) : Hello! Entering the Fantasy League, I hope!

  • Comment 92, posted at 12.06.08 13:39:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Me2 (Comment 91) : Hi me2 … generally the touts come to you in RSA…but if the American insists on fishing them out – we can make a plan. :lol:

  • Comment 93, posted at 12.06.08 13:40:29 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 90) : doooont worry

  • Comment 94, posted at 12.06.08 14:01:20 by PJLD Reply
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