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WP say ‘no Dollie’ to Eagles


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Currie Cup, In the news on 11 Jun 2008 at 22:34

The South Western Districts Eagles can forget about acquiring the services of talented flyhalf Isma-eel Dollie for the Currie Cup rugby competition.

Stephen Nell writes in Die Burger that Eagles coach Phil Pretorius wants Dollie in his side but Western Province coach Allister Coetzee has already shot down the idea.

“The Eagles may show interest but there’s no way it will amount to anything,” Coetzee said on Wednesday.

Pretorius confirmed that he would like Dollie to play for the Eagles. “We need someone in the role of flyhalf, general and goal kicker. Isma-eel is that kind of player,” Pretorius said.

“In my opinion, he is one of the best flyhalves in the country. If Western Province are not going to make use of him, we’d like to borrow him.

“We can’t afford to succeed with only 40% of our kicks at goal. If we could have someone like Dollie, we’d be able to match any team in the country,” Pretorius said.

The Eagles lost 29-15 in a friendly against the Blue Bulls last week and Pretorius said he intended approaching WP about acquiring the services of Dollie, who was loaned to Boland last year.

Coetzee said Dollie would have been with the WP squad had he not been selected to play for the Emerging team in Romania.

“One needs two or three flyhalves and Ricardo Croy is still in his first year. Esma-eel is part of my plans.”

WP recently acquired the services of former Cheetahs flyhalf Willem de Waal, who joined the squad at their training camp in Somerset West on Wednesday.

With the whole WP backline on national duty, the experienced De Waal is expected to play an important role in the early stages of the Currie Cup competition

Dollie was not part of the Stormers squad coached by Rassie Erasmus but he is expected to be in the WP 22 for most of the Currie Cup matches.

Pretorius may now shift his focus to former WP flyhalf Gareth Wright.



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    Eagles shock Cavaliers

    Robertson – South Western District Eagles shocked the Boland Cavaliers 20-17 in a friendly rugby match played in bitterly cold conditions on Wednesday night.

    Boland led 12-7 at the interval after an impressive performance by their forwards – especially in the tight scrums.

    Hooker Conrad Burke was first to score for Boland in the opening minutes.

    Duwayne Smart then ran more than 50m for a brilliant SWD try which was converted by flyhalf Ambrose Barends.

    Just before half-time Boland flyhalf Elgar Watts regained the lead for his side with a try close to the posts which was converted by fullback Justin Peach.

    The Eagles were first to score in the second half when Barends succeeded with a penalty.

    SWD regained the lead after Smart charged down a Peach kick to score his second try for Barends to convert.

    Soon afterwards Barends increased the Eagles’ lead to 20-12 after another penalty.

    But the Cavaliers hit back right towards the end with a fine try by left wing Alvin Hugo.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.06.08 22:59:38 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • SHarks should snap up Dollie.

    With the physical presence of Rory, Brad and Waylon around him, any defensive issues should be covered, while he is to my mind one of the most skillful ball-players in SA in some time.

    Built like a Thai lady-boy though.

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.06.08 23:09:04 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 2) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.06.08 07:42:06 by Charlie Reply

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  • Charlie, we need to hook up lad – will call you soon.

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.06.08 08:07:00 by Big Fish Reply
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  • The few times I’ve seen him play made me think he is highly over-rated

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.06.08 08:36:20 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 4) : Make that call buddy :twisted:

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.06.08 08:40:46 by Charlie Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 5) : Like Fransie Steyn… :roll:

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.06.08 08:41:19 by Charlie Reply

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  • Walter

    He is actually a very good CC player.

    Played very well for Boland last season (I stand to be corrected) as well as being the leading points scorer in the VC this year.

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.06.08 08:43:47 by wpw Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 3) :
    Beware the Fish, he ended his last post about Thai lady Boys and in the same breath wants to hook up with you. :wink:

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.06.08 08:51:02 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Something tells me that Dollie is not going to get much game time this year. I know he is a loyal Province man but surely the time has come for him to move on. The acquisition of de Waal should drive the messsage home quiete clearly.

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.06.08 08:55:07 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I’ve seen him play for WP under 21 and a few matches for WP in the Vodacom Cup and didn’t see what the excitement over him in WP circles is all about.

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.06.08 08:56:19 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 10) : Not about loyalty,every time he tries to leave they block the move.

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.06.08 08:58:38 by PJLD Reply
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  • Salmonoid

    After reading my copy of SA Rugby magazine last night i came to same conclusion about Paul Delport.

    There’s an article/interview which focuses on his career with the Baby Boks, WP and the Cats.

    He was also in hospital of 3-4 weeks with glandular fever and went from weighing 85kg’s to 68kgs.

    Added to all these setbacks is that his brother recently committed suicide. HECTIC!!!

    He is clearly not rated by Rassie and really needs to move to another province.

    Maybe the Lions or Cheetahs could do with his services.

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.06.08 09:01:47 by wpw Reply
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  • Salmonoid… Whatcha doing tonight? :mrgreen:

    Dollie has silky skills – I dont know if he can cut it at the highest level, but we will never know if he doesn’t play.

    Pack up and leave son!

    Delport hasn’t done anything to impress me.

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.06.08 09:07:18 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Coincidentally enough, PJLD’s msn message says he is looking to meet transvestites.

    Anybody able to assist him?

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.06.08 09:10:56 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 14) :
    Sorry, busy tonight – have to pull on my fishnet stockings for another damn online casino ad that we are shooting.

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.06.08 09:25:36 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Shucks!

    Is Salmonoid contagious? :shock:

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.06.08 09:33:34 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 15) : pathetic attempt at shifting the attention elsewhere! ;)

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.06.08 09:43:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • Salmonoid is not contagious, but can be caught.

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.06.08 09:54:24 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • This is what is wrong with SA rugby.

    WP bought De Waal, has Grant who will be back sometime this season and also Croy.

    SARU, for the sake of developing Dollie seeing De Villiers rates him, should force the union to borrow him to SWD where he will get plenty game-time.

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.06.08 11:18:52 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 20) : might make more sense for him to end up playing Premier League CC, though… Lions? Sharks?

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.06.08 11:22:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • Morne

    Does that mean SWD has to pay his salary???

    If they do then WP are really being a bunch or cnuts. Why would you keep a guy who won’t be playing much and pay him a salary for just training with the team?

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.06.08 11:29:14 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 22) : to stop anyone else using him

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.06.08 11:35:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 22) :

    Yes they do pay his salary, in addition to finding him a place to stay for the duration of the competition and allowances players would normally get.

    This salary will normally be subsidised as-well but WP will not ‘borrow’ him for free.

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.06.08 11:40:14 by MorneN Reply
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  • I just don’t get it…

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.06.08 11:45:00 by wpw Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 24) : you mean “lend” :)

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.06.08 12:15:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • “Esma-eel is part of my plans”

    Where have I heard tht before???

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.06.08 13:41:12 by Bok-El Reply

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  • @Bok-El (Comment 27) : :mrgreen: Serena Williams is part of mine – but that’s as far as it goes.

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.06.08 13:45:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 28) : Serena? Don’t you find her a little, erm, “Butch”?

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.06.08 13:48:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : sometimes :lol:

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.06.08 13:51:30 by blackshark Reply

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  • blackshark

    I cannot agree with you bru.

    Now if you said Ana Ivanovic or Kournikova. YUMMY!!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.06.08 13:55:07 by wpw Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 30) : you like that, dontcha? ;)

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.06.08 13:55:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 31) : Wipe the keyboard dude…

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.06.08 14:01:03 by blackshark Reply

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