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Sharks may have lost Deysel


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Sharks on 16 Jun 2008 at 09:40

The Sharks scored eight tries in their 44-12 victory over Northern Free State in Welkom on Friday night in a friendly match that caretaker coach Grant Bashford described as “a very worthwhile exercise”.

The bad news is that one of the best players, No 8 Jean Deysel, might have broken his hand, according to Mike Greenaway on IOL.

Deysel will learn more on Monday and, if his hand is seriously injured, it would be a big blow for the Sharks ahead of their Currie Cup opener against Western Province on Friday night.

The tough former Lions loose forward was expected to fill the void created by A J Venter’s move to Western Province.

With new captain and flyhalf Bradley Barritt directing play, the Sharks backs were too sharp and pacey for the home side.

Barritt left his kicking boots at home, missing all five of his conversion attempts that could have boosted the scoreline.

The Griffons competed well at forward and their new loose forwards worked tirelessly with the Shimlas flanker, Albert Parsons, scoring one of his side’s two tries.

Bashford said that Steven Sykes had had a promising game at blind-side flank but that he still had a fair amount to learn about the running lines (lock is his customary position).

“We learned a lot about our depth,” Bashford said. “Last year we did not have a warm-up game before the Currie Cup and we suffered as a result. In this game we looked at club players and blooded a number of youngsters off the bench. We were very good in the beginning of the game and at the end, but in the middle we became a bit disjointed because of the changes we had made so that everybody had a run.”



59 Comments

  • This could possibly have come at a worse time, but I’m not really sure how.

    I guess someone like Jacques Potgieter or Mike Rhodes is going to have to take the step up. It’s a huge risk, though, having two new guys in the loose trio. Makes me think that we’re probably going to have to put Sykes back at lock and play Daniel and Botes together against Province.

    I am not liking this at all.

  • Comment 1, posted at 16.06.08 09:42:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • This is TERRIBLE news. I’m predicting Deysel could be one of the stars of the CC. I’m extremely impressed and he adds the bulk to our loose trio which is vital!

  • Comment 2, posted at 16.06.08 09:52:54 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 2) : yeah. Of all the players that I just did NOT want to be without this CC, he’s top of the list.

    How long will a broken hand keep you out? 3-4 weeks?

  • Comment 3, posted at 16.06.08 09:57:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • of course, to make matters worse, he’s in my fantasy league team

  • Comment 4, posted at 16.06.08 10:00:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • we all know Keegan disappeared in the later games of the Super14 (i think playing with injuries had something to do with that), but how can you forget his man of the match performances against the Bulls and Blues with their big loosies… he can definitely come back and outplay allcomers… i expect that from him

  • Comment 5, posted at 16.06.08 10:28:24 by spykerbaard Reply

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  • It shows a worrying lack of depth amongst the loosies, especially as we only have one with the Boks. How good are those 2 youngsters you mentioned Rob?
    Daniel and Botes are good players but are just too ineffective at the break down to play in the same loose trio.

  • Comment 6, posted at 16.06.08 10:35:53 by Flashman Reply

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  • @Flashman (Comment 6) : Flash, I’ve heard Rhodes is good. Downey is another guy who could possibly come in… very quick and good skills.

    They’re all so young, though and haven’t been tested at this level. But I like to believe that real class will show through under pressure, so who knows?

  • Comment 7, posted at 16.06.08 10:41:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Time for the Sharks academy to prove its worth!

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.06.08 12:52:57 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 8) : agree. Happy birthday to your little one, BTW

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.06.08 12:57:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 8) : alternatively, I wonder if there’s still time to acquire Duane Vermeulen

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.06.08 12:58:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) :
    :wish:

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.06.08 13:17:15 by Bok-El Reply

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  • why does :wish: not work on SW?

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.06.08 13:18:02 by Bok-El Reply

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  • @Bok-El (Comment 12) : because we’re about reality here ;)

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.06.08 13:29:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : I WISH!! He would be the best signing we could make!

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.06.08 13:33:04 by Villie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : Thanks Rob. If I remember correctly your little one is of similar age. Is her birthday soon?

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.06.08 13:33:54 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 14) : you got Oom Rudi’s fax number?

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.06.08 13:34:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 15) : it was on 16 May.

    Man, the 3s are worse than the 2s… ;)

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.06.08 13:35:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : I can get it! Maybe we should bombard him?

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.06.08 13:39:35 by Villie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : Oh sh!t!! hehe

    Thanks for the warning!

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.06.08 13:40:50 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 18) : it seems too good an opportunity to miss, really…

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.06.08 13:42:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 19) : yeah, they just seem to throw all the boundaries out of the window ;)

  • Comment 21, posted at 16.06.08 13:43:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • hello DB…

  • Comment 22, posted at 16.06.08 15:57:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : Hello Rob, sorry issues at work keeping me from blogging. Really bad news about Deysel, but it does seem to indicate that the Sharks are really lacking in loosie depth. A little surprising, but honestly I know that Keegan had some poor games as the Super 14 went on, but he has had some very good games as well at flank. His lack of size is a bit of a concern, but he is a very good player and as long as he behaves, he will not let down the Sharks.

  • Comment 23, posted at 16.06.08 16:29:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 23) : Problem will be finding the right “bruiser” to effectively balance Keegan and JB.

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.06.08 16:31:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : What about Blignaut, or is he no longer a Shark?

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.06.08 16:44:37 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 25) : he is. Missed out on the trip to Welkom because of a family illness, or something, but should be in the frame for Friday.

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.06.08 16:47:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : He seems like a bruiser type that should fill Deysel’s shoes well, not so?

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.06.08 16:49:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I remember a year or two ago that Botes played 8 with Keegan at 6 and AJ at 7. How about Keegan at 6, Botes at 8 and Blignaut at 7?

  • Comment 28, posted at 16.06.08 16:50:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 28) : yeah – I think we may well have to do something like that.

    Blignaut is a big guy with reasonable pace, but he’s nowhere near as quick or as skillful as Deysel, I fear.

  • Comment 29, posted at 16.06.08 16:59:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : Does Blignaut have better pace, quickness and skills than Sykes at 7?

  • Comment 30, posted at 16.06.08 17:06:28 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 30) : one can only hope. Sykes is a pretty quick bugger for his size, though. Still, I wonder if they would have played him at flank had Blignaut, Rhodes or Downey been available for the match.

  • Comment 31, posted at 16.06.08 17:12:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) : Right and when is Hargreaves going to be ready for the big time? I find it strange that someone with his physical attributes, leadership ability, and skills is still not ready for CC or Super 14.

  • Comment 32, posted at 16.06.08 17:14:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 32) : well, he did play on Friday night. Not sure how he went. He’ll struggle to get a start at lock with Muller, Big Al and Sykes all in the mix, though.

  • Comment 33, posted at 16.06.08 17:27:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hey – it sounds like we might have Pietersen available this weekend. He’s been sent home from the Boks

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.06.08 17:28:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • Is Sykes much older than Hargreaves? I thought they were about the same age. To be honest, I have been waiting for quite a while for Hargreaves, and I was hoping he would have more potential than Sykes. Seems I am quite wrong. I have something to throw at you….I actually like the idea of Sykes at lock with Muller, and Albert at 8.

  • Comment 35, posted at 16.06.08 17:29:54 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : I am glad he will get some game time, but I suppose that means that either we are going to see Chavs leaking tries on Saturday or Odwa must start. I really hope Odwa gets the nod, he deserves it.

  • Comment 36, posted at 16.06.08 17:30:48 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 35) : yeah, you won’t find me disapproving of that. I touted Big Al as a possible loosie candidate some time ago already.

  • Comment 37, posted at 16.06.08 17:41:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 36) : we’re playing the blind school. Chavs is more likely to score 6 tries…

    Agree that Odwa should get it, though.

  • Comment 38, posted at 16.06.08 17:41:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : I don’t care how bad this Italy team is, if Chavs plays defensively the way he has been playing, they will score tries on his side. Sorry, but his defensive liabilities are not only going to be evident against the top international teams, but weaker teams like Italy as well. Even against the US he would leak tries, he may score six, but he is just as likely to leak 3 or 4. If he continues with Chavs in this game, that will imply that Chavs is his wing for the Tri-Nations, and that is a huge mistake.

  • Comment 39, posted at 16.06.08 17:47:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 39) : not arguing about that last point

  • Comment 40, posted at 16.06.08 18:00:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : hehehe, but you do think his defense will be acceptable against the Italians?

  • Comment 41, posted at 16.06.08 18:01:28 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 41) : depends what sort of game we play. I don’t anticipate them having enough ball for it to be a real issue.

  • Comment 42, posted at 16.06.08 18:13:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 42) : It only takes 1 ball to their 11 and they will score a try. :wink:

  • Comment 43, posted at 16.06.08 18:14:33 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 43) : true

  • Comment 44, posted at 16.06.08 18:18:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • OK, Chavs would not be a terrible hindrance against Italy, but I go back to my earlier post, if PdV does not replace Chavs in the game against Italy, then he is planning to use Chavs in the Tri-Nations, and that would be a terrible hindrance to the Boks winning.

  • Comment 45, posted at 16.06.08 18:20:24 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Barritt left his kicking boots at home, missing all five of his conversion attempts that could have boosted the scoreline.

    I presume our CC kicker wasn’t playing?

    Rory Kockott.

  • Comment 46, posted at 16.06.08 19:27:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 45) :

    He needs to play his 3N team against Italy and give them a chance to “gel” before the 3N starts.

  • Comment 47, posted at 16.06.08 19:28:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 46) : correct

  • Comment 48, posted at 16.06.08 19:40:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • I just don’t rate Blignault at all. Either as a lock or flank.

    I’m excited about Johan Snyman though. Saw him in one game a couple of years ago and he looked a talent of note.
    Hargreaves really needs to start putting his hand up. If he doesn’t make the grade soon then not sure he ever will!

  • Comment 49, posted at 16.06.08 22:37:48 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 49) : I have bad news about Snyman

  • Comment 50, posted at 16.06.08 22:41:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 50) : Really? Don’t tell me he’s left the Sharks?

  • Comment 51, posted at 16.06.08 22:43:04 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 51) : he’s playing out the season in New Zealand. Will be back come October. He told me that he’ll weigh up his options at that point.

  • Comment 52, posted at 16.06.08 22:46:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • Oh okay…that is not too bad. Can only do him good playing a year over there. Just as long as he returns afterwards!

  • Comment 53, posted at 16.06.08 22:56:02 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 53) : That’s the thing. I’m not sure he wants to stay

  • Comment 54, posted at 17.06.08 08:36:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 54) : Ja the Kiwis know a good thing when they see one and have probably whispered a few things in his ear!! :roll:

  • Comment 55, posted at 17.06.08 09:38:23 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 55) : I’ll keep working on him

  • Comment 56, posted at 17.06.08 09:39:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) :

    You busy stalking the players again… :wink:

    Morning Villie and Robs!

  • Comment 57, posted at 17.06.08 09:40:58 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) : Me too.

    I think I’ll also have a word with Duanne Vermeulen! :lol:

    Morning Icey!

  • Comment 58, posted at 17.06.08 09:45:09 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 58) : please do

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