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WP coach not convinced with penalty


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Currie Cup, In the news, Sharks, WP on 23 Jun 2008 at 18:32

Rory Kockott’s last-gasp penalty sealed a victory for the Sharks last Friday, though Western Province (WP) coach Allister Coetzee was adamant that the kick was not taken from the correct spot.

Rugby 365 reports that Coetzee did however give his team a vote of confidence after their narrow 25-28 defeat to the Sharks in their Currie Cup opener in Durban last Friday.

“It is unfortunate that a match should be decided by a penalty. I don’t have a problem with the penalty itself, but with the fact that the penalty was not awarded at the place the transgression took place,” Coetzee told WP rugby’s official site.

“That made the angle so much easier. They say they are innovative by referring decisions to the Television Match Official (TMO), but if they really want to be innovative they should go back to the TMO and ask him to check where the penalty should be awarded,” he added.

The coach made it clear the WP side was not happy with the result.

“We are far from happy with the defeat. That is part of the culture in this team.

“When you have an opportunity to win a game you should take it. And Friday night was an example of that. We didn’t come home empty-handed though and there were a lot of positives coming from that game.

“One of those is that we earned a bonus point in an away game after just about everybody wrote us off. Nobody gave us a chance, but in the end we almost won the game.”

The coach lauded his players for their attitude and approach to the game.

“The guys put their bodies on the line. I am fortunate to work with players who want to achieve for this union and that is good.

“Our scrums weren’t strong in the beginning, but we finished strongly. Our lineouts were good and the debutantes all played well – guys like PJ Vermeulen and Alistair Siegelaar. Wicus Blaauw also got a run.

“Deon Fourie was outstanding and Pieter Myburgh was excellent on the ground. The whole pack played well though and I don’t want to single out players. All of them worked really hard,” Coetzee said.

Coetzee would be keenly awaiting news from the national camp about the Tri-Nations squad come Tuesday.

Some of the players who are not selected will be released back to their provinces and the WP coach would welcome any reinforcements before Saturday’s clash with the Blue Bulls at Newlands.

Coetzee also reported a clean bill of health for his squad after last Friday night’s pipe-opener



120 Comments

  • I see Naas Olivier is back. :shock:

    Back from an unsuccessful stint with French club Auch, Naas Olivier was also present at the training session in Durbanville. Olivier is still on WP’s books and will only feature in the Absa Currie Cup if there are a number of injuries to the men ahead in the queue.

    “I wasn’t aware that he’d be available, but he’s more than welcome to join us at training,” said Coetzee. “One thing we can’t control is injuries, so it helps to know he still can play

    From Keo

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.06.08 18:53:32 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I see there is a huge debate about the Sharks Web Site. Are there plans in place preventing the same happening to this site. I do sometimes feel we are critical of an individual, forgetting this is a team sport and as we were told so often in the Army “we are only as fast as the slowest one”. So maybe we need to be collective in our critisism. So the Sharks played badly on Saturday. Are there any positives we can take from this game forward, what were the negatives can we rectify them and use them as a learning opportunity. I suppose also the players don’t select themselves, so how accountable are the selectors. If a player is on a contract surely he has to perform at a certian level like any employee is expected to, and if not well then why is he still on the books. I don’t like the idea of bringing in mercenaries whenever we feel to “lig in die broek” we need to show loyalty to our guys in the trenches, but maybe they do need performance appraisals and if something pertinant was said by an amature on a web site the players must be made to face the music. Also if the Union is not performing and their supporters are that agitated that they start writing harsh comments, well the last thing they should be doing is threatening legal action, maybe their media liason needs to clarify and placate these supporters who are obviously irritated and want answers.

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.06.08 23:43:38 by Dynamite Reply
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  • @Dynamite (Comment 2) :

    I see there is a huge debate about the Sharks Web Site. Are there plans in place preventing the same happening to this site.

    :?: :?: :?:

    I know that Sharksrugby.co.za (one of my favourite sites BTW) has closed down it’s blog section, but have missed the debate on the subject, so I wouldn’t be able to say why it was closed.

    I don’t see how the same thing can happen to Sharksworld though. Sharksrugby is the official Sharks Website and in such it’s content owned / controlled by the KZNRU / Sharks. Sharksworld is a privately owned website / web blog.

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.06.08 06:33:53 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :

    I see on the other thread it was discussed, but as I said above. Sharksrugby is owned by the Sharks.

    For them to give “us” (I sue that term losely becasue i really don’t want to associate myself with anyone who would pass comments of such a bad nature that it could invite legal action because of their insults/derrogatory nature.

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.06.08 07:16:13 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • bloody whinging alistair. he is lucky his player wasn’t red carded or cited. call the easier kick justice for not losing a player.

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.06.08 08:16:49 by try time Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 5) : thought this thread was going to just fall to the wayside,no such lick then.damn you Allistair!

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.06.08 08:21:44 by PJLD Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : :vomit:

  • Comment 7, posted at 24.06.08 08:33:04 by PJLD Reply
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  • He has a point, no point bitching about it though – there is no point.

    You would expect however that the TMO, who made the decision, is the one to point out where it happened?

  • Comment 8, posted at 24.06.08 08:39:54 by MorneN Reply
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  • morne that is the task of the assistant referee. problem is he came onto the field to talk to the ref and got his bearings wrong. remember a few phases were also played after the incident so that would have also got him out of position. lets just call it justice and move on.

  • Comment 9, posted at 24.06.08 08:46:56 by try time Reply

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  • I love this story – now I know WP is back on track to reliving their old days.

    Maybe somebody should also tell Alister Coetzee that when the scores are equal it doesnt mean that WP has won or that the Sharks lost.

  • Comment 10, posted at 24.06.08 08:49:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I think it was a fair call….I watched it over and over nd it was def intentional…from where the penalty was given – thats another story….but what the hell – I am not complainig!!!! :wink:

    BTW – Rory Kocket played like a DEMON!!! So enjoyable to watch!!! :grin:

  • Comment 11, posted at 24.06.08 08:55:06 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 9) :

    Nope sorry that won’t fly.

    It was a line-out offense or an offense that occured just after a line-out where a maul was formed. It happened in the 15-meter area and thus the penalty should have been awarded within this area, at best, on the 15 meter – not 5 meters off center-field.

    The TMO looked at about 10 replays off this, surely he was aware of where it happened?

    Over and above this, Skeate went up to the ref and told him it is the wrong spot. If the referee or touch judge were so quick to go to the TMO to look if there was an offense committed, why not go to him again to get the spot of the penalty too?

    Justice is following the laws of the game, what you are trying to do is give excuses.

    And since I know this will come up, let me say it now. If this stomping was that bad, if there was a boot to the face intentionally, then there would have been a citing after the match. There was none, and yes, you could see the number of the player whose boot ended up on the player.

    The penalty is justified, the execution of the law was not.

    And I would love to see how this one gets applied consistently through the season since you can pull a maul down, and you will have guys ending up at the bottom of the maul with players walking over them.

    I mean that is all we want hey? Consistency. Now WP is accused of being whingers but I can bet you R100 that this will happen again this year, to another team, and then people will bitch and moan that our game is becoming soft…

  • Comment 12, posted at 24.06.08 08:57:08 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 8) :

    Correct.

    Under normal circumstances if the ref calls advantage and play moves on it is the TJ’s responsibility to keep the mark of the advantage.

    In this case it was rtefered to the TMO, so he should be able to say where it happened.

    @try time (Comment 5) :

    How can you card a player for standing on someone who is under his feet? I know the CT media think their players are superhuman, but even they won’t expect the players to levitate.

  • Comment 13, posted at 24.06.08 09:09:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • morne the tmo can only answer the question asked. you should know this. the lineout was over. so it wasn’t an offence in the line out. the game still went on a bit so you cannot expect an exact position. i like the result. i think it just. and although i feel the player should have been given some time off to reflect on his stupidity, i also would like wp to be at full strength to beat the bulls. so take the loss and move on. it was the right result.

  • Comment 14, posted at 24.06.08 09:12:24 by try time Reply

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  • groan

  • Comment 15, posted at 24.06.08 09:12:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 12) :
    MorneN, who was the player, the TMO said he couldnt identify the number, I tried and also couldnt.

    I agree with you regarding the players laying under the feet of a moving maul and the players will just have to check where they put their feet, not check where the guys head is, place the studs on the target (head) and then apply downward pressure with the intention of hurting – as was the case in this game.

  • Comment 16, posted at 24.06.08 09:13:33 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 16) : Francois van der Merwe, I think

  • Comment 17, posted at 24.06.08 09:16:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 13) : for a ref i thought you would know what a tmo can and cannot rule on. the first time deon was stood on accidentally. but the last movement was a kick/stomp as the player was already over and past him when he kicked out. so your argument holds no water. makes me wonder about your referee decisions on the pitch. even alistair agrees with the tmo/referees/ass referees decision.

  • Comment 18, posted at 24.06.08 09:16:51 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 18) :

    Geez TryTime…that’s a bit personal??? :mad:

  • Comment 19, posted at 24.06.08 09:18:23 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 18) : easy, Sparky… no need to get nasty and personal. We’re all (supposed to be) friends here.

  • Comment 20, posted at 24.06.08 09:18:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • a ref i thought you would know what a tmo can and cannot rule on.

    :?: :?:

    Yes I do know. He can only rule on what he is asked and in the PREVIOUS situation of only being allowed to rule on what happened in goal when a try was scored and not being allowed to comment on what happened in the build up to the try, your point would have been valid.

    NOW however he was asked about foul play and that is what he gave his answer on. There is NOTHING ANYWHERE in the law that says the ref was not allowed to ask him to confirm the spot of the infringement.

    makes me wonder about your referee decisions on the pitch

    Let’s not get personal………………

  • Comment 21, posted at 24.06.08 09:20:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • ksa is a nice guy, but i expected more from him as the resident referee here. i am not attacking him personally just his strange referee opinions, apologies if it came out wrong.

  • Comment 22, posted at 24.06.08 09:21:41 by try time Reply

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  • “In this case it was rtefered to the TMO, so he should be able to say where it happened.”

    the positioning of the infringement was not requested so how can you blame the tmo. he did his job.

    “How can you card a player for standing on someone who is under his feet? I know the CT media think their players are superhuman, but even they won’t expect the players to levitate.”
    i may have misread this one. so apologise if i did. it looks as if you feel deon wasn’t trodden on. if however you do feel deon wasn’t stomped then i respond to this by saying alistair, the tmo, the commentators and the ass ref all agreed the player intentionally stomped deon. and the last time i heard an intentional stomp is an automatic card.

  • Comment 23, posted at 24.06.08 09:30:32 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 14) :

    The line-out was over, a maul formed. Hence I said at best it should have been awarded on the 15. It never moved beyond the 15. As KSA mentioned, the TMO was called in to ‘call’ the offense, not the touch judge, the TMO’s responsibility then is to give the ref the mark.

    The touch judge was correct in giving the mark horizontally, but did not or could not give the correct mark vertically (width of the field) because he was on the far side. So it is not the touch judges fault, it is also not the referee’s fault because he followed the game. It is the TMO’s duty to give the mark.

    And what it this the TMO can only answer what has been asked? It has long moved past that, TMO’s make decisions on specific instances and advise the referee, i.e. the ball was knocked, foot in touch, etc. The TMO was the ‘power’ who made the call to award a penalty, he has to ensure that it was taken from the right spot.
    @Salmonoid (Comment 16) :

    Lock

    @try time (Comment 23) :

    The spot was questioned, or asked for. The problem came in when the referee asked the touch judge for the spot, and not the TMO.

    Simple thing here. TMO is the one who awarded the penalty, not the ref, or TJ, Allister Coetzee makes a valid point that the TMO should have been the one called in to indicate where the penalty should be awarded.

    This is a new thing they brought in (which I do not like BTW) and this is obviously something they did not consider when bringing in this new system, and hopefully something they now are aware of, because the execution in the law was wrong – as per my first post. To me there is no debate surrounding that fact.

    The penalty justified, the execution of the law was wrong.

  • Comment 24, posted at 24.06.08 09:51:38 by MorneN Reply
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  • Kumbaya me Lord Kumbaya!!!

    (sing it wiff me) :roll:

  • Comment 25, posted at 24.06.08 09:55:39 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 25) : amen brother!

  • Comment 26, posted at 24.06.08 09:59:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 25) : …oooooh loord, kumbayaaa. :smile:

  • Comment 27, posted at 24.06.08 10:00:16 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 25) :

    Yoh boetie, congrats on the new addition to the family!

  • Comment 28, posted at 24.06.08 10:01:09 by MorneN Reply
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  • All of this and the most important bit of news is being ignored….
    Naas Olivier was also present at the training session in Durbanville. Olivier is still on WP’s books…” :evil:

  • Comment 29, posted at 24.06.08 10:01:59 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 29) : probably as a tax write-off ;)

  • Comment 30, posted at 24.06.08 10:03:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • Thanks Morne.

    He is gonna be play for Bafana Bafana one day. Eish, I’m so proud! :shock:

  • Comment 31, posted at 24.06.08 10:07:06 by wpw Reply
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  • a write off….exactly what that jong is.

  • Comment 32, posted at 24.06.08 10:07:31 by PJLD Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 24) :
    Thanks MorneN but does he have a name or number.

    @wpw (Comment 25) :
    “Someones singing Lord, Kumbayaaa

    @PJLD (Comment 29) :
    When they signed de Waal I said Dollie must be disheartened but now I think the message must be very clear.
    Maybe now they will let him go to SWD.

  • Comment 33, posted at 24.06.08 10:15:27 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) : Dollie even got replaced for the final game for the emerging boks, he must be VERY disheartened. Replaced by Jody Rose nogal.

  • Comment 34, posted at 24.06.08 10:17:17 by molly Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 31) :
    Its good that you have easily attainable goals for your kids.

  • Comment 35, posted at 24.06.08 10:18:23 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) : WP won’t let him go

  • Comment 36, posted at 24.06.08 10:21:28 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) :

    Not so sure on D-o-l-l-i-e (I know there is one in the somewhere :wink: ) going to SWD. Coetsee seems pretty clear in his message that Olivier will only make it if there are injuries.

    I actually like his ” welcome to join us at training” comment. Reminds me of Jake’s ” i don’t beg or blow wind up and player” attitude.

  • Comment 37, posted at 24.06.08 10:24:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 34) :
    So he isnt injured then. Puk, but he must be having a crap week.
    Why was he replaced – surely not for anything that happened in the semi against England, there it all started with a pack rhat got monstered – any ball that the backs got was real pressure ball.

  • Comment 38, posted at 24.06.08 10:26:42 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 37) :
    Apparently SWD want him and WP dont want to release him on loan. They really cant have any excuse to hold onto him now.

  • Comment 39, posted at 24.06.08 10:31:14 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 38) : HUH????

  • Comment 40, posted at 24.06.08 10:31:18 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 38) : you’re confusing the under 20s with the Emerging Boks, aren’t you? ;)

  • Comment 41, posted at 24.06.08 10:32:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • I have it on good authority that Dollie will NOT move to another union cos his family is in CT.

    (And this is from my SOURCE) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 24.06.08 10:32:29 by wpw Reply
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  • morne: the referee wasn’t aware of the incident. it was the assistant referee that had his flag out and pointed it out to the referee. so he is responsible for noting where it happened.

  • Comment 43, posted at 24.06.08 10:32:36 by try time Reply

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  • I think Dollie might actually play from the bench for WP while Allister is coach.

    I doubt he thinks size is NB hence he’s selection of Aplon and Joe Pietersen in the starting 15. :shock:

  • Comment 44, posted at 24.06.08 10:34:17 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 42) : you have a sauce? Oh my word…

  • Comment 45, posted at 24.06.08 10:36:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 42) : Ai,they are discussing something similar on wp club site wes.

  • Comment 46, posted at 24.06.08 10:39:41 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 38) : not the under-20, the emerging boks, not sure why he was dropped, but the kicking for posts was poor without him.

  • Comment 47, posted at 24.06.08 10:41:24 by molly Reply
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  • And my source knows Dollie personally. They from the same hood.

  • Comment 48, posted at 24.06.08 10:41:42 by wpw Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 39) :

    I am aware of that, but let’s look at it this way.

    SWD want a flyhalf. You are presuming that Naas will be ahead of Dollie in the pecking order.

    I think Dollie will be ahead of Naas, so why not let SWD have Olivier. He already has experience in the “player for hire” department

  • Comment 49, posted at 24.06.08 10:43:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 39) : can’t they release Olivier to them, I think thats a prefectly good excuse right there.

  • Comment 50, posted at 24.06.08 10:48:11 by molly Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 42) :

    That is good news because I think he is useless and I keep hearing rumours that the Lions are interested in him. They shouldn’t be!

  • Comment 51, posted at 24.06.08 10:48:37 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 49) : dammit, I’m a slow typer

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  • @molly (Comment 52) : better a slow typer than a slow learner ;)

  • Comment 53, posted at 24.06.08 10:55:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 40) :
    Geez, confusion reigns in my psychedelic brain.

  • Comment 54, posted at 24.06.08 10:55:28 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Walter

    He is much better than anything the Lions have at the moment…

    You guys would do well if he played for you…

  • Comment 55, posted at 24.06.08 10:58:10 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 49) :

    KSA, No not presuming anything about the pecking order at WP, I felt that he should have gone when they signed de Waal and I said it. He will definatly, at best, be 3rd choice when Grant returns.

    Anyway if he doesnt care whether he gets game time or not then who am I to bust my nut wheteher he is hard done by.

    @molly (Comment 50) :
    But maybe they (SWD) dont want Olivier. :wink:

  • Comment 56, posted at 24.06.08 11:09:30 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • anyone know the song “Where do you go to , my lovely”, by Peter Sarstedt?

  • Comment 57, posted at 24.06.08 11:10:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 55) :

    I don’t know about that WpW…yes Rose sucks at 10 (his recurring match time mistakes have greater effect on the game at 10…and he gets more ball there so his mistakes tally is always higher at 10)…

    Jaco is limited…his is ok in everything but not wow in any…

    But what does Naas have?

  • Comment 58, posted at 24.06.08 11:14:28 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Is it bad that i do :neutral:

  • Comment 59, posted at 24.06.08 11:15:40 by PJLD Reply
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  • Is he really crying cozz the kick was not taken from the right spot!???!

    How many kicks are actually taken from the right spot and would that have made a difference…was it 4/5 meters away from the right spot where it might actually have made a dif????

  • Comment 60, posted at 24.06.08 11:16:07 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Who said anything about Naas? We are talking about Dollie. :smile:

    It’s actually sacrilege that his parents named him after the Great Naas Botha…

  • Comment 61, posted at 24.06.08 11:18:14 by wpw Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 59) : no – it’s a great song.

    But in one of the verses he says
    “When you go on your summer vacation
    You go to Juan-les-Pins”

    That’s where I was last night ;)

  • Comment 62, posted at 24.06.08 11:18:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • But where do you go to my lovely
    When you’re alone in your bed
    Tell me the thoughts that surround you
    I want to look inside your head, yes I do

  • Comment 63, posted at 24.06.08 11:20:02 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Alrighty then!!!

    Welcome to Karaoke.co.za :mrgreen:

  • Comment 64, posted at 24.06.08 11:23:55 by wpw Reply
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  • hey guys what has all this to do with the above article. i tried to keep to the topic and i got shot down. go to your chat rooms and sing love songs there. or rob create a daily, talk rubbish thread.

  • Comment 65, posted at 24.06.08 11:25:15 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 62) :
    Did you see the Aga Khan while sipping your Napoleon brandy.

  • Comment 66, posted at 24.06.08 11:25:19 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I went to gym last night,but thats about it.

  • Comment 67, posted at 24.06.08 11:26:10 by PJLD Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 64) :
    And now by special request WP will sing “Achy Breaky Heart”

  • Comment 68, posted at 24.06.08 11:28:01 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 66) : trying to figure out where to keep the sodding horse ;)

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  • @try time (Comment 65) : I reserve the right to talk as much rubbish as I please where and when I choose to ;)

  • Comment 70, posted at 24.06.08 11:30:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 70) : then shouldn’t we call this site keo or ruggaworld?

  • Comment 71, posted at 24.06.08 11:35:48 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 71) : why are you so determined to try my patience today? ;)

  • Comment 72, posted at 24.06.08 11:38:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • …and all the Sharks guys will sing ‘It’s raining Men’ :shock:

  • Comment 73, posted at 24.06.08 11:45:19 by wpw Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 56) :

    He will definatly, at best, be 3rd choice when Grant returns.
    Agreed but until then they will ONLY have De Waal (well at that stage anyway) Going through the CC with one flyhalf would have been suicide IMO.

    Unfortunately that is the nature of having the Boks join halfway through the season though. one moment you have just enough or not enough players and the next you have to many. (well if you are the WP backline coach anyway) (Lions don’t have that problem :wink: )

  • Comment 74, posted at 24.06.08 11:45:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 71) :

    No, those names are already taken.

  • Comment 75, posted at 24.06.08 11:46:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 61) :

    Who said anything about Naas? We are talking about Dollie.

    It’s actually sacrilege that his parents named him after the Great Naas Botha…

    :mrgreen: Says he changing the subject back to Naas :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 76, posted at 24.06.08 11:50:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 61) :

    Well I thought you were talking about Naas…

    Dollie I would agree…might not be all that now but before the season is out he will be a revelation I think…

  • Comment 77, posted at 24.06.08 11:52:51 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 74) : Going through the CC with one flyhalf would have been suicide IMO

    So what we are doing is worse than suicide? ;)

  • Comment 78, posted at 24.06.08 11:54:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • How did Naas Olivier’s parents know he was going to be a flyhalf?

  • Comment 79, posted at 24.06.08 11:56:15 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • :lol:

  • Comment 80, posted at 24.06.08 11:57:54 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • @Oranje Orakel (Comment 80) : hello, my Orange friend

  • Comment 81, posted at 24.06.08 11:59:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 74) :
    I felt that Dollie was in line to be WP’s flyhalf with Grant at the Boks. It was then announced that De Waal was coming to WP and that SWD were interested in Dollie but that WP were not interested in letting him go. I felt that he ws not properly appreciated at WP and that he should move and that he would be unhappy there because of them bringing in someone ahead of him.
    I was obviously wrong because it appears from wpw and pjld that his ambitions stretch to being able to see table mountain on a sunny day, no doubt while on a handsome contract – game time does not seem to be an issue.

  • Comment 82, posted at 24.06.08 12:01:11 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 78) :

    Fooking right mate.

    That guy at #10 (I forget his name) should be the Bok 12 not a CC # 10 :roll: :lol: :wink:

  • Comment 83, posted at 24.06.08 12:07:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Oranje Orakel (Comment 80) :

    You gotta say WHAT you are laughing at dude. :wink:

  • Comment 84, posted at 24.06.08 12:08:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • but i thought johnny wilkinson was going to be wp’s first line flyhalf. or is he 4th in line after dollie. or is naas 4th in line. hang on where is tony brown. and frans isn’t he a flyhalf. damn this is far to cofusing let me re read the article, i am sure it relates to the topic at hand. oh sh…….

  • Comment 85, posted at 24.06.08 12:08:37 by try time Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 75) : keo.kak and ruggaworld.kak aren’t taken.

  • Comment 86, posted at 24.06.08 12:09:24 by try time Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 82) : Salo, ok uhm on previous occasions that Dollie tried to bounce he was blocked,he did succeed once when going to the spears but that fell through, wp then signed him again and put him in the u/21 team again.

    As Walter pointed out earlier there were strong rumuors thats the Lions wanted him and that he wanted to go but that also got blocked and now this story with SWD.

    My comment on wess sauce was a bit vague,i was not referring to Ish specifically but more so on the attitude of the laaities in the shade of the mountain that hang onto mommies apron strings like its a sin to ever let go of it.

  • Comment 87, posted at 24.06.08 12:10:39 by PJLD Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 86) : let it go dude

  • Comment 88, posted at 24.06.08 12:11:02 by PJLD Reply
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  • HowZit Rob

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    @wpw (Comment 64) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 75) :

  • Comment 89, posted at 24.06.08 12:11:45 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Hey OO!

    How’s things in Mielieland???

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 90, posted at 24.06.08 12:21:16 by wpw Reply
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  • @Oranje Orakel (Comment 89) :
    :smile: :wink:

  • Comment 91, posted at 24.06.08 12:22:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 87) :
    I must have misunderstood, because it really is a crap attitude for a professional sportsman to have, give them laaities a klap around the ears.

  • Comment 92, posted at 24.06.08 12:28:24 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 90) :

    poPPing boet- poPPing!

    And wiFF you?

  • Comment 93, posted at 24.06.08 12:30:50 by Oranje Orakel Reply

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  • Lekker soes n Cracker!!! :cool:

  • Comment 94, posted at 24.06.08 12:39:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 62) :

    Talking bout great songs…Mine is “Ballad of Lucy Jordan”…had a good cry on my birthday this year on that song…. :wink:

  • Comment 95, posted at 24.06.08 12:46:23 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 95) :
    Funny when rob first mentioned the song I thought abou Lucy Jordan. Theres a common thread in the two songs.

  • Comment 96, posted at 24.06.08 13:13:32 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • see you guys, you know you are off topic when ice joins the conversation.

  • Comment 97, posted at 24.06.08 13:15:12 by try time Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 96) : yes both songs don’t relate to the topic.

  • Comment 98, posted at 24.06.08 13:16:16 by try time Reply

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  • :mrgreen: TT

  • Comment 99, posted at 24.06.08 13:19:19 by wpw Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 98) : : :grin:
    Sorry, what was the topic, Im too lazy to scroll up?

  • Comment 100, posted at 24.06.08 13:19:30 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Nothing in ‘the rules’ about talking kak. :cool:

  • Comment 101, posted at 24.06.08 13:21:45 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 101) : good point, why aren’t there? i love talking kak as you all know, but why can’t we talk kak on a dedicated off the topic thread. and we save the blogs for related points of view. it is great to see what people have to say about a topic, but it is a pain in the buttocks to scroll through the rest of the stuff. on this article the the first relevant post was number 5, i then get attcked and i then attack back then i apologise for punching the crotch and then everyone starts singing to eachother. probably ten percent of the posts actually relate to the article, therefore a lot of other stuff to wade through.

  • Comment 102, posted at 24.06.08 13:30:03 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 102) : Don’t think there should be rules for talking nonsense. It’s lekker. Otherwise it’s way too restrictive. As long as the no politics rule is adhered to, I reckon we’re safe.

  • Comment 103, posted at 24.06.08 13:34:33 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 103) :

    That has worked well for ages and also see no reason to fiddle with anything. this place rocks.

  • Comment 104, posted at 24.06.08 13:38:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 97) :

    Dont you have money to count – its close to month-end…or were you retrenched or fired and have nothing to do than give us kak??? :evil:

  • Comment 105, posted at 24.06.08 13:39:15 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • cool just thought i would throw the idea in there to get mauled. the site is about the bloggers anyway. not necessarily about rugby…

  • Comment 106, posted at 24.06.08 13:41:43 by try time Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 83) : you’re just sucking up ;)

  • Comment 107, posted at 24.06.08 13:46:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 107) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Some call it sarcasm,……………others, very few mind you, call is sucking up. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    for a while there I thought you hadn’t taken the bait. :wink:

  • Comment 108, posted at 24.06.08 13:53:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I was impressed with the Wee Pee hooker Deon Fourie. Very lively and ubiquitous!

  • Comment 109, posted at 24.06.08 13:55:22 by Villie Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 104) : It does. that’s why I keep coming back. :grin:

  • Comment 110, posted at 24.06.08 13:55:50 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 108) : I was having lunch

  • Comment 111, posted at 24.06.08 13:57:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 110) : thanks. Tell your friends

  • Comment 112, posted at 24.06.08 13:59:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 112) : unless they enjoy talking rugby, or like keeping to the topic. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 113, posted at 24.06.08 14:01:50 by try time Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 112) : I have no friends.

  • Comment 114, posted at 24.06.08 14:07:12 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 114) :

    Awwwwwwwwww I consider you a friend :wink:

  • Comment 115, posted at 24.06.08 14:09:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 115) : Thanks, I’m welling up. :smile:

  • Comment 116, posted at 24.06.08 14:11:58 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 113) : I think one of your buttons got stuck

  • Comment 117, posted at 24.06.08 14:12:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 114) : you won’t believe it, but a nice guy like me also doesn’t have friends.

  • Comment 118, posted at 24.06.08 14:13:00 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 118) : conversation killer :wink:

  • Comment 119, posted at 24.06.08 14:22:52 by molly Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 118) :

    Now THAT is a shocker!!!! :wink:

  • Comment 120, posted at 24.06.08 15:41:20 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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