WP need to front up physically

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, In the news, WP on 26 Jun 2008 at 07:30

Western Province are not promising to compensate the Newlands faithful for last week’s dour Test fare when they host the Blue Bulls there in a Currie Cup match on Saturday.

The performances of the Springboks and Italy left a bitter taste in the mouths of some 36 000 fans after the teams settled for conservative playing patterns in inclement weather, according to

On Saturday, fans can expect more of the same but this time the two fairly evenly teams, in the best traditions of traditional North v South rivalry, will show far more passion.

“We cannot say we are going to play running rugby,” said Allister Coetzee, at Wednesday’s WP team announcement. “If we think that’s what we are going to do, then we’re living in a fool’s paradise.

“One just have to look at what the Bulls are renowned for. They’ve got a helluva good side, and it does not matter how many players they have out through injury.”

Coetzee was referring to the injury-stricken Bulls captain Wikus van Heerden who will be out of action for the next few weeks. However, his loss will effectively be offset by Danie Rossouw, who has been overlooked for Tri-Nations duty by the Springbok selectors.

Last week, Coetzee tried to counter the threat posed by the massive Sharks pack by loading the bench with five forwards. This time Coetzee has reverted to usual 4-3 (four forwards, three backs) split, but he pointed out that he did not mean he had less regard for the Bulls pack.

“We’ll have to front up physically to the Bulls. That’s a huge challenge, and we know what Rossouw brings to their pack. I am not underestimating the Bulls’ forwards in any way,” said Coetzee, a former Springbok assistant coach who has worked with Rossouw for three seasons.

“Last week I had a gut feel to go with five forwards on the bench because we were scrummaging against a Springbok tight five.

“The team needs the forwards to provide quick, quality ball for the backs.

The backs need the platform to strike out wide.

“We know we can defend well, and we’ve shown that in the Super 14 season, and also in the game against the Sharks.

“This week our biggest challenge will be at the breakdowns. That’s the area that has been crucial throughout the Super 14, and we have to be more accurate there.”

WP’s lack of accuracy at the breakdowns last week cost the side 17 penalties and six of those were converted into matchwinning points on the scoreboard.

Any repeat of that ill-discipline could prove equally costly this week because the Bulls Bulls have an excellent place-kicker in Morne Steyn.

The return of the the Springboks and the Emerging Springboks has resulted in hot competition for places in the matchday squad of 22, and capable players like Naas Olivier and Joe Pietersen have been left in the cold.

In the next week or two WP will also have Fijian international Sireli Naqelevuki back. The Stormers winger has been playing centre for Fiji, and he has been hugely impressive at the IRB Pacific Nations Cup.

“The Currie Cup comes with its challenges, and the players have to fight for places,” said Coetzee. “On the other hand, as the coach I have to ensure that the team has cover allround.

“One also wants to bring in continuity,” said Coetzee. “I’d like to start with the same backline – seven of them, because I feel it takes longer for backs to settle a combination.

“The forwards seem to settle down far quicker, and easier.”


  • No shit Sherlock. :roll:

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.06.08 10:03:54 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply
    McLovinAssistant coach
  • ra-cheltjie de’ va-rk


  • Comment 2, posted at 26.06.08 10:16:39 by Hmmm Reply
    HmmmSuper Rugby player
  • Oh well , the brutes are not use to AJ in a province jersey. Thats why we got him. Also read this morning in our local newspaper Genl de Waal contacted Rassie to come back to his roots and Siegelaar all eager for the Bulle.

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.06.08 11:24:17 by PaarlBok Reply
    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • PB

    Is Siegelaar from Paarl?

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.06.08 11:28:34 by wpw Reply
    wpwAssistant coach
  • @PaarlBok (Comment 3) : Let Siegelaar go!!!! :razz:

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.06.08 11:45:06 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • Siegelaar is a Paul Roser. He kept Marnus Hugo (Boland 9) out of Craven Week in 2004/5.

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.06.08 11:49:26 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • Must say this parts keep on producing now quality 9s, Marnus/Siegelaar/Duvenhage/Hoffman and now the current Gimmie & WP capt also a goodie.

    Think it wont take long before they spread heir wings because we also have from the top Januarie/Bolla in line.

    We can only have this amount of 9s.

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.06.08 11:53:00 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • @PaarlBok (Comment 7) : You mind taking some of them 9s you got,giving them some steak and producing a few props buddy?
    Because that would be swell :wink:

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.06.08 11:58:02 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • Havent even mention Delport also up there. :oops: Duvenhage already nearly a Cheetah. Hawies keep on poaching our lot from Boland. Myself rate him & Hoffman big time.

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.06.08 11:59:02 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • Whatever happened to Festers famous signigs, Duimpie Theron and Attie Winter?

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.06.08 11:59:34 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • @PaarlBok (Comment 9) : How is Hoffman coming along?

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.06.08 12:00:05 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • @PJLD (Comment 8) :

    Lots of fatties coming through also. Adriaanse Emergency Bokke the first one. Look like the get to much drinking time at Maties but waiting for “Spike” Carlo Prinsloo to make the stepup. The fatties take a bit longer, Jean Rossouw also SA U20.

    Dont know much about Hoffman but he’ll be back.

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.06.08 12:12:15 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • One fatty to watch in the Craven Week for WP is Ruan Smith. He played last year Aus A schools as a 17 year old but is back and a farken big unit. Scored 7 tries for Gimmies this year already.

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.06.08 12:14:15 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • 7?!for a fatty :shock:

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.06.08 12:20:12 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • hi everyone! Its sad about delport. He really needs game time, he’s a hugely talented no.9, better than siegelaar and Hoffman (in my opinion) :grin: but he never gets a chance. I dont know why coetzee is gambling with his chances by playing an inexperienced siegelaar ahead of paul. The problem with province is that there are huge amounts of talent but instead of developing it and reaping the benefit, they just go out and buy experienced players and then lose the homegrown talent to other unions, who are willing to spend time on players that have another 5-8 years in their careers. Paul has been neglected. It seems likely that the same will happen to hoffman and siegelaar when ricky and bolla return…all impressive players that will eventually move to other unions, and we will be left with two men who have peaked and only have another couple of years left

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.06.08 12:26:05 by wpforlife Reply

    Academy recruit
  • @wpforlife (Comment 15) : BUY THIS MAN A BEER!

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.06.08 12:33:43 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • Paul was really crappy after returning from illness but that was to be expected, after a while he looked to have gotten his form back and yet he has to play second fiddle to everyone.

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.06.08 12:35:45 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • @wpforlife (Comment 15) : oh and welcome WP brutha

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.06.08 12:36:58 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • @wpforlife (Comment 15) :
    True but really I think this amount of talent pushing Januarie and Bolla into the kind of form there for all to see. I thought Rassie look like pushing Duvenhage in the Stormers squad at the start of the season. This kid scored last year two tries against the Cheetahs on CC debut for Boland. Then Hoffman got the nod but in my books both of them some real rough talent. Both more then capable kickers and exciting to watch. I wont be surprise to see them in Bok colours in a few years.

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.06.08 12:37:19 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • Ja cheers wpforlife, think the more WP posters here the better. :lol:

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.06.08 12:40:34 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • Thanks for the big welcome :wink: gotta overrun these sharks!

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.06.08 12:47:10 by wpforlife Reply

    Academy recruit
  • I see your point, bolla and ricky are in great form at the moment, but it has a lot to do with how much game time they have had. When Ricky first came over he was fat and lazy, and Bolla was expected to retire shortly. Shouldnt we have stuck it out with Paul, whose form seemed to be getting back to its best, instead of buying ricky in the first place? The young guys need experience and time on the field to become great…we are overrun with n0.9s with a serious shortage in weight (props) not the best way of spending the budget?

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.06.08 12:55:31 by wpforlife Reply

    Academy recruit
  • Did you guys hear that Paul Delport’s younger brother committed suicide recently??? :shock:

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.06.08 12:55:58 by wpw Reply
    wpwAssistant coach
  • I wouldn’t mind if Bolla went overseas after this season’s CC. We need to blood Hoffman and Delport and the time to do it is NOW!

  • Comment 24, posted at 26.06.08 12:57:15 by wpw Reply
    wpwAssistant coach
  • Ya, it happened over a month ago..on the same day as the last vodacom cup match :sad: How hardcore is that!? And now after he’s come back from yet another huge set back, they wont even play him!

  • Comment 25, posted at 26.06.08 13:06:46 by wpforlife Reply

    Academy recruit
  • @wpforlife (Comment 21) :
    If you manaage to overrun the Sharks here maybe robdylan will allow you to change the name to wpworld.

  • Comment 26, posted at 26.06.08 13:07:52 by Salmonoid Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld
    Salmonoid the SubtleAssistant coach
  • Now theres an idea!

  • Comment 27, posted at 26.06.08 13:18:35 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • @PJLD (Comment 27) :

    Ah Rob is away and the WP supporters think they can over throw the Sharks supporters in their own virtual land ;)

  • Comment 28, posted at 26.06.08 13:23:15 by Dive Pass Reply

    Dive PassCurrie Cup player
  • @Dive Pass (Comment 28) : :grin: Dont worry broer, will be difficult, the masses of mountain goats is at Keo, we only want real WP supporters. :wink:

    Anyway back to the WP topic, dont look like Mallet is very popular around here but he did mention a very valued point on B&A last week, we have riches of schoolboy talent here, the key to any coach here is to stick the talents in WP.

  • Comment 29, posted at 26.06.08 13:35:41 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • I cannot wait for WP to win the CC this season… :roll:

  • Comment 30, posted at 26.06.08 13:44:51 by wpw Reply
    wpwAssistant coach
  • PB

    That is so true…

    And yet we gave guys like Andrews, Greeff, TGHMQD, Gus Theron, Louis Skoen, Chris Rossouw many caps at WP while allowing good players like Lobberts, Januarie, P3, Russell (in his prime), Heinie Adams, Pat Barnard, Hougie (in his prime) to leave for greener pastures.

  • Comment 31, posted at 26.06.08 13:47:53 by wpw Reply
    wpwAssistant coach
  • Test

  • Comment 32, posted at 26.06.08 13:54:44 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 26.06.08 13:55:19 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • @wpw (Comment 31) :

    Ja Oom Gert & Fester did us a lot of harm. If we could have hold our senir players that left it would not been necesaary for Rassie to buy the experiense lot now.

    Sad we could not have Jouba in the Bok 13 jersey now with Mossie gorne. I was sort of praying something cn happen to see him & jean next week in Wellington NZ.

    Jouba’s mum working at Paarl Girls and Piet Snors girl is in school there and John now staying with him I sort of hope to see him getting back for the BIG test.

    To late and keep on wishing!

  • Comment 34, posted at 26.06.08 14:39:36 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • @PaarlBok (Comment 13) :

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    Taken from last saturday de Kuilen match

  • Comment 35, posted at 26.06.08 14:49:09 by PaarlBok Reply

    PaarlBokCurrie Cup player
  • Im off gents, ons praat weer more.

  • Comment 36, posted at 26.06.08 14:52:16 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain

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