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John’s coming home


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks, Tri Nations on 7 Jul 2008 at 13:00

Springbok captain John Smit will not play in the remaining Tri-Nations away Tests against New Zealand in Dunedin and the Wallabies in Perth over the next two weekends because of a groin strain and returns to South Africa on Wednesday.

SA Rugby Monday advised Smit had undergone a scan and it was confirmed he had sustained a strain of his hip adductor in the first Tri-Nations Test against the All Blacks on Saturday, according to a SAPA report on www.iol.co.za.

Bulls captain Victor Matfield, who has previously captained the Boks in four Tests, will skipper the team in the absence of Smit.

Smit was forced to leave the field after he was lifted in a tackle by Brad Thorn and then dumped. Thorn was afterwards cited for the tackle and suspended for Saturday’s Dunedin Test.

Andy Marinos, SA Rugby’s manager of national teams, described Smith’s injury as a massive blow.

“John is in my view the most respected and experienced international rugby captain at the moment so his absence is a big setback for the team. We have two tough tour matches remaining but are fortunate to have in Bismarck du Plessis and Schalk Brits two very good replacements,” Marinos explained.

“Victor’s got great leadership abilities, the players respect him too, he’s already our official vice captain … I don’t think it (losing Smit’s captaincy) will be such a great loss. However, we will be left with less leaders on the field and that is something we will have to overcome,” De Villiers is quoted as saying.

Western Province and Stormers hooker Schalk Brits is set to arrive in Wellington late on Monday night as a replacement for Smit.



52 Comments

  • That’s our tour fucked. Sorry to put it that way, but there’s no way this team can win abroad without John. Matfield has the leadership skills of a damp handkerchief and there are few others in the team that will stand up and be counted.

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.07.08 13:03:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hate to say it but i agree.

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.07.08 13:06:57 by billy Reply

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  • Rob

    One of the moegoes on Reitzworld actually thinks the Lions hooker Wepener should get a look in for the Boks. :shock: :shock: :shock:

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.07.08 13:11:07 by wpw Reply
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  • I don’t agree, Bismarck is a (MUCH) better player than Smit..and why do you need a leader on the field? These guys are pros, they know what to do.

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.07.08 13:12:33 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 3) : why do you waste your time there? ;)

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.07.08 13:18:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • Walter

    Francois Pienaar was also not the best in his position and yet he was crucial to our WC victory in 1995.

    Have you ever seen Matfield speak to referees???

    He gives them the beady eye and looks out of his depth whenever he captains the Boks.

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.07.08 13:18:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 4) :

    Walter, because they are human as well.

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.07.08 13:19:39 by Ollie Reply

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  • Let’s not panic….Hell if NZ can beat us with a guy that has never captained them before why in the world can’t we win with a guy who has captained the Boks before and captained a Super 14 winning team?

    @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 4) :

    I agree that Du Plessis brings a lot to the Bok game, he is incredibly strong, both in taking the ball up and ripping it off the opposition.

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.07.08 13:20:28 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Comment 5, posted at 07.07.08 13:18:14 by robdylan

    Just wanted to read what the bigots have to say…

    Shame… poor Ollie was defending PDV all on his own. :neutral:

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.07.08 13:22:45 by wpw Reply
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  • wpw, sad isn’t it, one match lost to NZ in NZ and the coaches head must roll. What crap.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.07.08 13:23:46 by Ollie Reply

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  • I hear there is a Hooker and a Flyhalf looking for a new province…

    Anyway, new World Rankings out, we dropped a place.

    http://www.transvaal.co.za/worldranking.asp

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.07.08 13:24:29 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • Which two players Walter???

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.07.08 13:26:44 by wpw Reply
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  • Walter

    I noticed that Earl Rose is in your FL team… :mrgreen:

    And yet you said you wouldn’t mind if he returned on a flight back to CT. :roll:

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.07.08 13:27:37 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 13) :

    It doesn’t mean I want him in my REAL team if he plays in my FANTASY team.. :mrgreen:

    Let’s be honest, he had a blinder on Friday, probably his best CC match since joining the Lions, and I already said that if he can keep that level up, he can stay in JHB.

    I also heard that he read some of the comments on my site about him..perhaps we inspired him a bit!

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.07.08 13:31:46 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 12) :

    A Hooker and a Flyhalf that might not start at their current province..

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.07.08 13:33:52 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 15) :

    So it’s quite easy to work out who they are and why their current province are going to lose them.

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.07.08 13:35:21 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • Oh now I definitely know who you are talking about Walter…

    Thanks for making it so clear!!! :roll:

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.07.08 13:39:29 by wpw Reply
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  • Please don’t tell me they are at WP…

    Peter Grant? Dollie???

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.07.08 13:40:22 by wpw Reply
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  • Must be the sharks. With Smit and Butch being back.

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.07.08 13:41:43 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 19) : But do we have a flyhalf to spare?

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.07.08 13:43:56 by blackshark Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 3) :

    Why?????????? Is Wepener an AWB member? :wink:

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.07.08 13:44:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • This is a serious blow to our tour, it really is. I know Vic is the automatic choice, but i would be tempted to suggest Juan Smith as his replacement.

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.07.08 13:44:52 by Sauce Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 16) : Richardt Strauss and JLP. Simple, really…

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.07.08 13:46:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • molly

    The Sharks don’t have a flyhalf… remember!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.07.08 13:46:20 by wpw Reply
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  • :mrgreen: KSA

    Hoesit boet???

    Was wondering why you are so skaars…

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.07.08 13:47:11 by wpw Reply
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  • Please Let PdV see the light and make JdV captain and NOT Wetfart, ag I mean not Matfield. :roll:

    And while PdV is making changes………….please play Grant ahead of Franscois Steyn at Flyhalf sub.

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.07.08 13:47:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I’m with Vinnie on this one.

    JDV should be captain. He did a sterling job with the Stormers this season and he’s performances have been brilliant as well.

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.07.08 13:48:14 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 25) :

    Am on dail-up in Dbn and have LOTS of house work :sad:

    Saw on Sky that John is coming home and thought I better check how the news is being taken.

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.07.08 13:48:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 17) :

    I still have no clue :sad:

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.07.08 13:50:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Hey…who captained the Bulls when they won the S14 ?

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.07.08 13:50:32 by blackshark Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : I don’t think wes does either :lol:

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.07.08 13:51:31 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 30) : Let that oke grow up and captain the Boks.

    don’t wanna mess with JdV’s form…

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.07.08 13:53:41 by blackshark Reply

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  • Very bad news but time for the rest of the boys to stand up now. Bismark now had a chance to make his mark from the start. Let’s hope for a dry day in NZ in Sat! :roll:

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.07.08 13:55:29 by Villie Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 32) : He’s in great form but still people want him to shift for an underperforming Steyn.

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.07.08 13:56:01 by molly Reply
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  • Matfield has already been named captain for Saturday guys….live with it

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.07.08 13:57:25 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • and please start with Bolla and Mujati…

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    NOT!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.07.08 13:57:54 by wpw Reply
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  • Dive Pass

    We’ll do more than just live with it… We’ll support him (Matfield)
    all the way…

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.07.08 14:01:13 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 36) :

    Well unless CJ recovers they may well be starting with Mujati cos there is no official word on BJ heading for NZ…

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.07.08 14:01:49 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 36) :

    lol. You cancelling your supporters club subscription to their fanc clubs wpw?

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.07.08 14:02:10 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 38) :

    You’ve got to ask yourself if Graham Henry would be flying BJ out if the roles were reversed. I’d like to say yes he would, yes definitely!

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.07.08 14:03:28 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Not really Vinnie.

    I still think if called upon Bolla Tokolosi COnradie will do a better job than the inconsistent Pienaar.

    As for Mujati… he should not have been on tour… the potential is there but he shouldn’t be playing against NZ.

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.07.08 14:07:15 by wpw Reply
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  • Well, at least Jaques Fourie and Fourie Du Preez are making their comebacks this coming weekend…

    I wonder what ever happened to Sicknote Pretorius of the Lions…

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.07.08 14:08:38 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 37) : Agree…and he must return that favour by performing his duties.
    The man has spent so much time with John and I’m sure JS regards him as his sidekick…so he should go out there and act like he knows what he’s doing.

    Go Bokke!

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.07.08 14:15:31 by blackshark Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 40) : Hallo Vinnie :mrgreen: So Adi was God’s gift to the Bok backline on Saturday – that pass to JDV was something special :wink:

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.07.08 14:33:23 by Charlie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 3) :

    You must be kidding?

    Yes behind Schalk maybe as the Bulls and Cheetahs don’t have better…but not ahead of Schalk…

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.07.08 14:38:17 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 41) :

    The NZ commentators actually said the inclusion of January ahead of Pienaar was an eyebrow raiser, quote: “January included ahead of Pienaar raised eyebrows”…

    They are clearly seeing something in Pienaar that we don’t…no ways should he be in ahead of January….maybe Bolla yes cozz he clears faster than Bolla and has a greater veriety to his game…but no way ahead of January…

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.07.08 14:41:47 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 42) :

    Andre Pretorius is out for the year, will only play again in 2009.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.07.08 15:02:34 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 46) :
    The NZ commentators had forgotten how he rattled Carter in previous matches.

    Actually I would take Pienaar ahead of Januarie in dry conditions in Aus. I don’t think one is better than the other, just different playing styles for different game plans and conditions.

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.07.08 15:03:01 by Ollie Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 47) : :shock: Only one year?

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.07.08 15:06:29 by blackshark Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 42) :

    Lost a leg or something in practice…
    Apparently all his health issues are due to his excessive drinking and partying habits…apparently there was a time that he was drunk almost every day…could also contribute to his inconsistency in my opinion…
    But he would have done great in Saturday’s conditions…he can control a game…but then again how well behind a struggling pack…we need to bear that in mind…could not have been easy for the Bokke 9 and 10 on Sat?

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.07.08 15:57:21 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 42) :

    Is JFourie really coming back this weekends?

    That will be a great plus for the Bokke if JF plays as he did in the last 2 games of the S14…unfortunate for Adi though…

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.07.08 15:58:53 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Ollie (Comment 48) :

    I donno…January exerts himself on the game these days….Ruan has not stood out for a while…I’ll go January…yes his kicking was not all that great Saturday…but it was tough conditions….

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.07.08 16:01:41 by Hmmm Reply

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