Province push panic button

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, In the news, WP on 14 Jul 2008 at 09:46

Western Province coach Allister Coetzee may make a couple of changes to his side for Friday’s Currie Cup clash against the Valke in Brakpan after his team produced their “worst performance of the season” against Griquas this past Saturday.

Ashfak Mohamed reports for IOL.

Province went down 21-20 in Kimberley, which Coetzee described to the Cape Times on Sunday as “very disappointing”. WP made a bright start, but after the opening quarter they played without any direction or purpose against a tough Griquas side that never gave up.

One player who is likely to miss out on the Valke game is flank Pieter Myburgh, but through injury. Myburgh hurt his knee on Saturday and Coetzee said that he will go for a MRI scan today.

“We will wait for the scan, but Pieter will possibly miss Friday’s game,” he said.

“I may make a couple of changes because this was not an acceptable performance, but I first want to go through the game carefully before I make any definite decisions. We as coaches and players must take responsibility.”

Wing Tonderai Chavhanga left the field early in the second after a “bump to the head”, according to Coetzee, but he should be fit to play. Loosehead prop Wicus Blaauw took a knock to the shoulder, but should also be fine.

Coetzee was extremely upset after his team produced a poor effort. WP went down after Griquas fullback Riaan Viljoen kicked over a 63m penalty with seven minutes left. “We made a good start, but the players may have thought that this was going to be easy,” said Coetzee.

“We made so many unforced errors. I mean, that try they scored early in the game was gifted to them by us. That is just unacceptable.

“In fact, the way we played was very disappointing. It was our worst performance of the season.”

The WP backline were unable to find a way through or past the Griqua defence as they ran too laterally. The ball was just shifted to wings Wylie Human and Tonderai Chavhanga without any space being created by the inside backs.

Captain Gcobani Bobo tried hard to take the initiative, but halfbacks Alastair Siegelaar and Willem de Waal were not able to take charge.

Coetzee said that Province’s inability to create opportunities on attack showed that certain players were not able to adapt their games to a situation which required a more attacking approach.

Province had only scored three tries in as many matches before the Griquas game.

Coetzee said last week that WP would be focusing on improving their attacking play ahead of the Griquas clash, but there was very little evidence of improvement in Kimberley.

“In the wet games we’ve had, the game was a bit slower. But in dry conditions and a hard field like we had in Kimberley, we need to have more speed in our game and play at a higher tempo,” he said.

“And I don’t want to single out anybody, but I think that some people got found out. They could not produce what we wanted from them.

“When we had to start playing a bit, we couldn’t do it. I thought that we didn’t get the ball out quick enough from the breakdowns, and we battled a bit at No 9 in this game.

“We had to run at them a bit and hold on to the ball, but there was no intensity after the first 10 minutes up to the last 20. Towards the end of the game we started playing a bit better, but it was too late.”

One of those players who may have been “found out” was No 8 AJ Venter. One could argue that he is out of position as he was signed by WP as a lock, but he has played as a loose forward for most of his career. But he was just too slow to keep up with the fast-paced game on Saturday.

Adriaan Fondse has entrenched himself as the “enforcer” lock at WP, so Venter, who would fulfil a similar role, will have to displace Fondse from the starting line-up if he hopes to start in the second row.

Coetzee should consider starting Justin Melck in the loose trio against the Valke, while another loose forward, possibly Pieter Louw, could come in for the injured Myburgh. Louw, who recently returned from a long-term knee injury, is a specialist No 8, so Melck may fill in at flank.


  • Province were truly, truly, utterly poor.

  • Comment 1, posted at 14.07.08 10:20:30 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply
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  • They probably reckoned they only have to show up and take the points.

  • Comment 2, posted at 14.07.08 10:21:48 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply
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  • Thank goodness i didn’t watch the game… De Waal should have been rested for Dollie and the same can be said of Siegelaar was has been pretty useless the last few weeks.

    Come on Allistar! Give Delport and Dollie a run!

    You also need to replace Wylie ‘slow coach’ Human for Kakerlakie…

  • Comment 3, posted at 14.07.08 10:41:58 by wpw Reply
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  • I was hoping for this result so that the LIONS can move to 3rd spot on the log…so thank you Griekwas…
    And the Griekwas no 8 (I think his name is Wyne van Heerden)…WoW…put in some massive hits…jinne he knocked those WP players back…
    Bobo put in two good inside passes putting players into gaps…but other than that he was nowhere….very pedestrian…
    And the fact that he said the only difference in the two sides was the passion in the post match interview was a concern…it is the captains duty to get the players heads into it….
    Newman looked good at 13…he just needs a proper 12….and they need Fiji back and they will have a far more competitive backline….

  • Comment 4, posted at 14.07.08 11:09:14 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Delport did look good as well…I will def start him…
    But Province should be getting Bolla back for the home stretch of the 3 N anyways…

  • Comment 5, posted at 14.07.08 11:10:36 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Racheal…

    Lets give credit where credit is due….Griekwas did play very hard and put in some monstrous hits that put province off their game….

    All I have to say is: LIONS…you may have put in the best performance of the year thus far and scored the most points of the season in a game…but you are in for it this coming Saturday in Kimberly…after the victory against WP the Griekwas are going to be even more determined to show what they are worth….

  • Comment 6, posted at 14.07.08 11:13:11 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Bobo put it down to lack of passion from the team…and in that case he should take responsibility….that is his job…

  • Comment 7, posted at 14.07.08 11:13:51 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 6) :
    And likewise WP are in for a bruising game in Brakpan this coming weekend.

  • Comment 8, posted at 14.07.08 11:23:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 8) :

    If the Valke can pull off a win there that would be even better…
    What is the injury situation of the Valke…anyone know!??!

  • Comment 9, posted at 14.07.08 11:34:18 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 9) :

    With a win in Kimberly the LIONS would be a good few points clear of WP on the log…then all they have to do is to ensure a win against either WP or the Sharks (only other two gamkes of this round) and pick up a bonus point in the other then they will be well clear..

    If the Valke can even prevent WP from scoring a bonus point that will be second prize…

  • Comment 10, posted at 14.07.08 11:37:41 by Hmmm Reply

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  • The Currie Cup is NOT won in July.

    Some people think the competition has reached its peak. Aai…

  • Comment 11, posted at 14.07.08 11:46:34 by wpw Reply
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  • On the subject of AJ, something just does not look right there, firstly the blue and white stripes just dont do it for him and then even thgough he cant be accused of being a passenger he just does not seem to have the fire that he is known for – and I am not talking about this last game but the previous few. Maybe the passion for that blommetjie is not there yet.

  • Comment 12, posted at 14.07.08 11:52:20 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Salmon

    He played well in the first two games but seems to be struggling at the moment.

    He should be playing off the bench imho.

    A guy like Justin Melck will make a huge difference as well as Pieter Louw.

  • Comment 13, posted at 14.07.08 12:01:12 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 13) : hmmmm….

  • Comment 14, posted at 14.07.08 13:14:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • Their performance was indeed worrying but credit to the Griq forwards…especially Van Heerden

    The game was actually entertaining. :grin:

  • Comment 15, posted at 14.07.08 13:35:34 by blackshark Reply

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  • hehehe…what do Wee Pee expect when they have De Waal at flyhalf. He will kick penalties all day but he’s not going to ignite a backline!

  • Comment 16, posted at 14.07.08 13:45:14 by Villie Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 3) :

    I truly agree with WPW.
    The great Willem de Waal had to be rested and replaced by Isma-eel.
    Anyway the Currie Cup is not won in July.
    So we (Streeptruie) shall win it next October.
    Go Goats!

  • Comment 17, posted at 14.07.08 13:46:44 by H.O. Reply

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  • @Villie (Comment 16) : He is rather “stiff”…no flair whatsoever…what a waste of a boot.

  • Comment 18, posted at 14.07.08 13:53:37 by blackshark Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 11) :

    Ja Naas…
    But if you do not score enough log points by July…you won’t even have the opportunity to win it in October (won’t make the semi’s)…as a WP supporter you should know that (last year)…
    As a LIONS supporter I still remember 2006…every week is important…leave too much for the stretch and it might just be that….TOO MUCH….

  • Comment 19, posted at 14.07.08 13:55:01 by Hmmm Reply

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  • I agree Villie and blackshark.

    De Waal will do just fine in the tighter games against the bigger unions like the Sharks, Cheetahs and the Bulls.

    We should select Dollie when we play the minnows like the Lions, Boland, Valke, etc…

  • Comment 20, posted at 14.07.08 14:03:19 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 20) :

    Well when last did WP make the semi’s…or even worse…the finals for that matter….if not mistaken WP have not reached the finals since 2001….
    I guess they the minnows then!??!
    But can understand how that could be difficult to admit for a supporter of the ONCE fierce Western Province….
    Been a while since they can be called that though!??!

  • Comment 21, posted at 14.07.08 14:13:20 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Hmmm

    Just cos you made the final in last years ‘watered down’ CC doesn’t mean your team is any good.

    No one was watching in any case. Everyone was too busy watching the Boks at the World Cup.

  • Comment 22, posted at 14.07.08 14:45:06 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 22) :

    Well the only teams watered down were Bulls and Sharks…so WP had no excuse for doing so utterly poorly….

  • Comment 23, posted at 14.07.08 15:18:56 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 22) :

    And the previous 7 years when you did not make the finals!??! Was no one watching that either….
    WP…the most overrated minnows in the CC….

  • Comment 24, posted at 14.07.08 15:22:29 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Minnows hey hmmm? what was there 300 people at Pepsi Park the other night? Oops, sorry i meant Coca Cola Park… What a joke of a union…

  • Comment 25, posted at 14.07.08 19:34:27 by wpw Reply
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