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Ruan to play more flyhalf?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 21 Jul 2008 at 01:36
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Versatile Ruan Pienaar could be deployed at flyhalf when South Africa play Argentina in a rugby Test match in Johannesburg on August 9.

Stephen Nell speculates on News24.

Butch James was again disappointing when the Springboks went down 9-16 in their Tri-Nations match against Australia here on Saturday.

The team’s management may now use the match against Argentina to weigh their options before the start of the Tri-Nations matches at home.

Pienaar replaced James late in the recent match in Dunedin, where South Africa beat New Zealand 30-28.

Former Wallaby Coach Eddie Jones suggested last year, during the time he spent with the Springboks, that Pienaar be utilised at No 10.

However, Springbok coach Peter de Villiers was cautious when he spoke about James’s position after Saturday’s defeat.

“The fact that Butch has been singled out in the media for alleged late and high tackles could unnerve him a little because he may feel he is being watched all the time,” De Villiers said.

“That is why it is good to talk to the referee before a match; to find out what he will be looking at.”

Pienaar is a good distributor of the ball and kicks well. He also replaced James during the second half when the Springbok beat Namibia 105-13 at Newlands last year.

Frans Steyn was not a success when he played at flyhalf against Italy earlier this season and Peter Grant has not had an opportunity to prove himself at Test level.

Hooker Bismarck du Plessis, who will be eligible to play on August 4 after his suspension, will certainly replace Schalk Brits in the SA starting line-up.

The selection of the reserve hooker will be interesting. Adriaan Strauss impressed with the way his got stuck in when he took over from Brits after 52 minutes of the Test in Perth.

“We missed Bismarck’s hard work up front,” De Villiers said. He added, though, “All 28 players who came on this tour feel part of the success. It will be easier now. One can do with 23 or 24 now and release the rest to play Currie Cup rugby.

Schalk Burger’s neck injury will determine how much game time flanker Luke Watson will have during the next month or two.

Seeing that he has been part of the squad all season, Watson is the logical choice on the open side if Burger is ruled out for some time.

Wikus van Heerden of the Blue Bulls and Heinrich Brüssow of the Cheetahs could also come into contention.

The selectors will also take a good look at the fitness of stalwarts from the Jake White era, such as Fourie du Preez and Jaque Fourie.

Du Preez was the best scrumhalf at the World Cup tournament last year. His willingness to take responsibility and absorb pressure took much of the pressure off James’s shoulders.

Ricky Januarie’s individual brilliance won the Dunedin Test for South Africa but he had problems on Saturday because of the immense pressure that the Wallabies exerted.

Fourie won’t have an easy route back into the team either. Adrian Jacobs should recover from his hamstring injury in time to play against Argentina and Steyn remains in the picture.

Depending on Bryan Habana’s shoulder injury, the selectors may also have to make a change on the wing.



40 Comments

  • So now Pienaar and Steyn are being selected ahead of Peter Grant. :evil:

    Am I the only one who finds this unacceptable???

    And it has nothing to do with Grant being a Stormers/WP player.

    It seems Dick is really influencing PDV. :roll:

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.07.08 14:34:07 by wpw Reply
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  • WPW “It seems” . . .
    How do you think we beat NZ???
    :twisted:

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.07.08 14:44:01 by hellbent Reply

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    We beat them with a Stormers player scoring the winning try!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.07.08 14:55:48 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 3) : Nice one :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.07.08 15:14:21 by PJLD Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 1) :

    we know its not because his a stormer/wp player, cause his going to be a sharks player soon… :lol:

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.07.08 15:20:24 by VanWilder Reply

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  • seriuosly now wpw – ruan is a real Brent Russel in the making. Jack of all trades, master of none… his a real fine scrumhalf, if he doesnt make the team cause there is someone better than him, so be it. then he has to raise his game. i agree, peter for flyhalf… and not peter de villiers, but peter grant (ABC for rugby learners) :smile:

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.07.08 15:24:14 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 5) : there’s something I like about you ;)

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.07.08 15:29:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 5) :

    Well you lack a decent all round flyhalf…

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.07.08 15:37:31 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 1) :

    If was evident that Grant is not selected as back-up fly-half when he came on at centre when he replaced a very very off form Butch on Saturday…with Steyn moving to fly-half…

    I mean surely we have better centres to play off the bench!??!

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.07.08 15:40:07 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 1) :

    But agree…Grant would have done better than Butch in all 3 games…and surely better than Pienaar!??!
    Pienaar struggled at fly-half at S14 level…

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.07.08 15:42:53 by Hmmm Reply

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  • I really rate Butch but he hasn’t been as good as he was last year.

    He will be back to his best and once he returns (if he returns) to the Sharks he will perform the way we know he can.

    Grant has been very good for more than 2 years now. And not in the CC but at S14 level.

    He is an all round flyhalf and is a much better player (at 10) than either Steyn or Pienaar.

    I just don’t understand why PDV would take Grant down under if he was not going to play him. :evil:

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.07.08 16:05:53 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 11) : Butch isn’t coming back to the Sharks. He still has 2 years to go with Bath

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.07.08 16:13:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 11) :

    Back-up centre it seems…

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.07.08 16:14:18 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) :

    But what is wrong with him?

    Is he too slow for the ELV’s?
    He played well under the old rules!??!

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.07.08 16:16:36 by Hmmm Reply

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  • guys – just a question. Do a team (lets say in the currie cup) HAVE to set out a starting line up before a match?? why even do it? why not see the other team`s line up when u see them on the field?

    this is way of the topic but, i feel PDV talks to much. he said in last week that we are going to play an expansive game, what do the aussies do? counter our rucks and mauls! its difficult to play an expansive game without the ball… and counter attacking then is easy…

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.07.08 16:17:28 by VanWilder Reply

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  • PDV has Dick Muir disease!

    Play a player anywhere except in his best position and then leave your two best flyhalves (James and Grant) doing nothing.

    Both James and Grant need game time, stop fooking around with other flyhalves.

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.07.08 16:23:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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    What did you think of Steyn’s performance on Saturday??? :roll:

  • Comment 17, posted at 21.07.08 16:29:39 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 17) :

    Not tooooo much.

    Another point on the grant James issue. Grant may have a province to play for to gain gametime in the next few weeks but James doesn’t. You can’t expect butch to play no matches for 3 weeks (4 weeks (27 days)if he doesn’t play against the Argies) and then come back firing on all cylinders against the AB’s in CT for a vital match.

  • Comment 18, posted at 21.07.08 16:45:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 3) : @PJLD (Comment 4) :

    You guys are delusional – that try only tied the scores. It was the kick that won the game. Now who was it that really won the game for us?

  • Comment 19, posted at 21.07.08 16:45:49 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 19) : Wahl Bartmann ;)

  • Comment 20, posted at 21.07.08 16:58:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) :

    I think he meant a different game :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 21, posted at 21.07.08 17:05:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 21) :

    Definatlyn a different game – Im just trying to get the Province guys to not get too far ahead of themselves.

  • Comment 22, posted at 21.07.08 17:16:43 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • There are no provinces when the boks are playing you dorks. Sheesh! :twisted:

  • Comment 23, posted at 21.07.08 17:24:59 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 23) : there are always Bulls :evil:

  • Comment 24, posted at 21.07.08 17:27:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : yes, I will concede that. I suppose the only Bull to put up their hand is the one that wants to leave Bull territory, does he count?

  • Comment 25, posted at 21.07.08 17:34:46 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 25) : yes – he’s still one of them. He had a huge game, though.

  • Comment 26, posted at 21.07.08 17:43:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • I’m a little bit chipped about this.

    Have we really got to a spot where we are just giving players a go?
    I mean first we gave Steyn a go to play flyhalf in a sort of desperate move to find his position. Not in CC or S14 rugby but in a bloody test!

    And now we have another player that has no track record in the position to speak of also getting a go at test level.

    What the hell does Peter Grant need to do to get a start?

    It’s a bloody disgrace the way he is being treated with all these players, iostensibly not even in good form and with little to no experience in the position, being picked ahead of him.

    And now we have approached the farcical situation where our second-choice national flyhalf hasn’t even taken the field in almost three months because he has been holding tackle bags.

  • Comment 27, posted at 21.07.08 17:44:21 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : Can’t believe he got subbed, he was doing all the hard work. Only because Matfield was the captain.

  • Comment 28, posted at 21.07.08 17:45:35 by molly Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 27) : You may have missed his 2 minute cameo on Sat. Oh wait, that wasn’t at flyhalf. My bad.

  • Comment 29, posted at 21.07.08 17:46:43 by molly Reply
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  • Here’s a thought, how about JdV at flyhalf? Maybe Adi Jacobs too. Lets give them all a go.

  • Comment 30, posted at 21.07.08 17:47:28 by molly Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 15) :

    There is a requirement to release a team. But that team can change after that, somethign Rassie used to do all too often.

    I’m unsure of where the law/rule comes from but there is definitely somethign that says you have to release a side, I’m also unsure as to how long before the game but for some or other reason I seem to think it’s 48 hours before kick-off, presumably why most coaches name their sides on the Thursday before the game.

  • Comment 31, posted at 21.07.08 17:47:28 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 30) :

    Beast?

  • Comment 32, posted at 21.07.08 17:47:55 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 31) : I think its so the programmes can be printed with the team names.

  • Comment 33, posted at 21.07.08 17:48:15 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 29) :

    lol. I didn’t see the whole game – was stuck out on a golf course on Saturday in the pissing rain.

  • Comment 34, posted at 21.07.08 17:48:37 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Seriously, someone with way more experience at flyhalf is being left off the list… 46.

  • Comment 35, posted at 21.07.08 17:48:54 by molly Reply
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  • I feel an article coming on…

  • Comment 36, posted at 21.07.08 17:49:14 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Something along the lines of: ‘Tache shafts Grant.

  • Comment 37, posted at 21.07.08 17:49:47 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Wot did u guys think of the two runs ay THE BEAST? The guy has some serious pace 4 a prop…

  • Comment 38, posted at 21.07.08 19:28:04 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 38) : Beast rocks!

  • Comment 39, posted at 21.07.08 19:35:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 38) : in fact, Beat is the one player that I’m REALLY glad to have back. He just adds something to the team.

  • Comment 40, posted at 21.07.08 19:41:22 by robdylan Reply
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