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Nokwe in, Brits out


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks, Tri Nations on 28 Jul 2008 at 18:17
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The national selectors have added Fourie du Preez, Jaque Fourie and Jongi Nowke to the 30-man Springbok squad for the Mandela Tribute test and the remaining Vodacom Tri-Nations matches, it was announced today.

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Du Preez and Fourie, both members of the 2007 World Cup-winning Springbok team, missed the previous six Springbok Tests this year due to injury.

Vodacom Free State Cheetahs wing Nokwe, a member of the initial expanded Springbok training squad, also received a recall to the squad.

The Springboks assemble on Wednesday morning in Pretoria where they will stay until Sunday, before transferring to Johannesburg to continue with their preparations for the Mandela Tribute Test against Argentina on 9 August in Johannesburg.

Springbok hooker and captain, John Smit, was not considered due to injury. Smit will continue with his rehabilitation under the supervision of the Springbok medical and conditioning staff.

The Springbok squad for the Mandela Tribute Test and the Vodacom Tri-Nations:

Backs (in alphabetical order according to first names):

Adrian Jacobs (The Sharks)
Bryan Habana (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
Butch James (Bath)
Conrad Jantjes (Vodacom Western Province)
Enrico Januarie (Vodacom Western Province)
Fourie du Preez (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
Francois Steyn (The Sharks)
Jaque Fourie (Xerox Lions)
Jean de Villiers (Vodacom Western Province)
Jongi Nokwe (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs)
JP Pietersen (The Sharks)
Odwa Ndungane (The Sharks)
Percy Montgomery (Vodacom Western Province)
Peter Grant (Vodacom Western Province)
Ruan Pienaar (The Sharks)

Forwards:

Adriaan Strauss (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs)
Andries Bekker (Vodacom Western Province)
Bakkies Botha (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
Bismarck du Plessis (The Sharks)
Brian Mujati (Vodacom Western Province)
CJ van der Linde (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs)
Gurthrö Steenkamp (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
Joe van Niekerk (Xerox Lions)
Juan Smith (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs)
Luke Watson (Vodacom Western Province)
Pierre Spies (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
Ryan Kankowski (The Sharks)
Schalk Burger (Vodacom Western Province)
Tendai Mtawarira (The Sharks)
Victor Matfield (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
Not considered due to injury: John Smit (The Sharks)



49 Comments

  • so much for all the speculation. It’s only Brits and Chavanga that have been dropped.

    Bad news for the Sharks

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.07.08 18:18:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well there is good news in this (or am i hoping in vain)

    And that news is that a Captain hasn’t been appointed.

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.07.08 18:25:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) : yeah, but the bad news is that Longshanks is in the team…

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.07.08 18:31:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • With PDV talking about His wings not finishing, I think we can expect Nokwe to be given a chance against Argentina.

    And then when he scores three to be played in the 3Ns.

    It’ll be a bit like trying to make a player a Springbok because he played well in the CC against some minnow team.

  • Comment 4, posted at 28.07.08 18:31:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) :

    But not named as Captain. :ccol:

    PLEASE LET IT BE JDV???????

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.07.08 18:32:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • PLEASE RESIST THE URGE TO EXPERIMENT???????

    Leave that for the end of year tour.

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.07.08 18:46:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Seems PDV doesnt have faith in Odwa + JPP. How can u give a player 1 or 2 tests to prove his worth?

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.07.08 18:47:55 by wpw Reply
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  • I wonder wot Reitzworld + Voldy have to say bout Nokwes inclusion

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.07.08 18:50:06 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 7) :

    If he wins the 3N and then comes out and says he is taking players on the EOYT to check their abilities. I will not have an issue if he comes back from the tour with a kak record.

    He will be the 3N champions’ coach.

    Use the Arg test to settle the team and then Thump the AB’s a week later with a relatively settled side.

  • Comment 9, posted at 28.07.08 18:53:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • With Fourie (the one i like :wink: ) back it does creat a bit of a selection poser at 12 / 13.

    I would go for JDV & Fourie

  • Comment 10, posted at 28.07.08 19:14:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Personally I don’t Nokwe is bad selection..who knows he may thrive under the Bok enviroment..Truth is we don’t have speedy wingers and maybe he can gain from this experience..Chavanga dissapionted.

    Also for me I would have considered Ludik or maybe even Benjamin :wink:

    Pitty Watson is there..if he doesn’t produce the goods in the next 4 matches then the guy MUST be dropped. Wickus,Baywatch are much better players imo.Actually the same applies to Spies he has had his chance and is also in the last chance saloon.Chavanga was dropped after 2 matches hell Britz after one..so the same should apply to others that under perform.

  • Comment 11, posted at 28.07.08 19:32:26 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • think :oops:

  • Comment 12, posted at 28.07.08 19:32:51 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • I have some questions for whoever wants to answer me:

    1) whether Heinrich Brussow had not injured in the last weekend, Snor would have called him?

    2) I think the following players are still missing: Jacques Botes, Morné Steyn, BJ Botha and Heinke van der Merwe;

    3) I think the following players shouldn’t have been called:
    James (out of form)
    Mujati (not an international class player, sic…)
    Steenkamp (struggling in the scrums…)
    No. 46 (not an international class player, just a political selection)

    4) Jongi Nokwe is a political selection?

  • Comment 13, posted at 28.07.08 21:15:03 by H.O. Reply

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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 11) :
    “Also for me I would have considered Ludik or maybe even Benjamin”
    :shock: :shock: :shock:

  • Comment 14, posted at 28.07.08 21:19:09 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 14) :

    I was kidding about Benji..but rather serious about Ludik though..

  • Comment 15, posted at 28.07.08 21:22:09 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 14) :

    pardon, Benjamin who?

  • Comment 16, posted at 28.07.08 21:22:31 by H.O. Reply

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  • HO. Enough with the political comments. This is NOT Ruggaworld or Keo.co.za… In future please keep ur comments about ‘Political selections’ to yourself.

  • Comment 17, posted at 28.07.08 21:46:39 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 17) :

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    I just asked about Jongi Nokwe.
    As I do not know him I just took the freedom to ask.
    All right now?

  • Comment 18, posted at 28.07.08 21:54:42 by H.O. Reply

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  • If u dont know him why do u ask if he is a political selection? would u have asked that question if his name was Jaco Louw?

  • Comment 19, posted at 28.07.08 21:59:14 by wpw Reply
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  • Nokwe is a decent selection. No right winger has nailed down the spot as yet. JPP is the best option at the moment. Nokwe was very good in the Super 14′s and has exceptional pace. He has also improved his defence enormously over the past couple of years. I think he deserves an opportunity to train with the Boks and build up his confidence.

    I would not play him against the Aussies or AB’s just yet because they would target his wing with the high ball and he doesn’t have the best hands.

  • Comment 20, posted at 28.07.08 22:00:21 by Villie Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 19) :

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    unfortunately you don’t know me…pity…you are judging me for some words I wrote without having the intention to offend anyone…anyway no problem…I respect your (wrong) view on me…

  • Comment 21, posted at 28.07.08 22:01:26 by H.O. Reply

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  • I CANNOT believe that we are still leaving out both our top tighthead and top loosehead. Heinke Vd Merwe and BJ are leapyears ahead of the next best props in SA. We are dicing with danger continuing with the scrum that we played in the first 3 games. They only scrummed well in the 2nd AB test!

  • Comment 22, posted at 28.07.08 22:02:30 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 20) :
    thanks Villie for your opinion on Jongi Nokwe… :razz:

  • Comment 23, posted at 28.07.08 22:03:55 by H.O. Reply

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  • Villie. Id have Beasts workrate ahead of Heinke anytime.

  • Comment 24, posted at 28.07.08 22:12:47 by wpw Reply
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  • Heinkes scrummaging…

  • Comment 25, posted at 28.07.08 22:13:31 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 24) : It’s about opinions. Heinke is much stronger in the scrums but doesn’t offer as much around the park.

    I would prefer a more solid scrum and then bring Beast on off the bench in the 2nd half! I’m seriously concerned about our set piece!

  • Comment 26, posted at 28.07.08 22:14:27 by Villie Reply
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  • @H.O. (Comment 23) : No problem HO.

    We have a shortage of quality wings in SA so need to experiment. PDV is looking for wings who can finish and those with lightning pace so fair to see if Nokwe can make the step up!

  • Comment 27, posted at 28.07.08 22:15:51 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 27) :

    Anyway Habana and JPP are strong tacklers and can always be dangerous weapons with oval in hands.
    People tend to think about them like they ought to have the same displays shown during last RWC…

  • Comment 28, posted at 28.07.08 22:25:05 by H.O. Reply

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  • @H.O. (Comment 28) :
    Nokwe has really upped his game since last season already, but I agree very strongly with you here – nobody should be expecting our wings to score tries with the problems we have had upfront, and even at halfback, particularly with James not adjusting well yet.

    Habana and JPP have shown that they can tackle and score when it matters – we should be very reluctant to cast that aside.

  • Comment 29, posted at 28.07.08 22:36:06 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 29) :
    In fact I should keep them in the starting lineup.
    Should pick Peter Grant at losskakel and Percy behind all to give calmness and experience

  • Comment 30, posted at 28.07.08 22:42:38 by H.O. Reply

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  • Fransie Steyn for losskakel, please! Want sy skakelaar is duidelik los!

  • Comment 31, posted at 28.07.08 22:46:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) :
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    Franswa is een heelagter……

  • Comment 32, posted at 28.07.08 23:30:55 by H.O. Reply

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  • @H.O. (Comment 32) : ongelukkig weet hy dit nie.

  • Comment 33, posted at 29.07.08 07:19:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • HArdly see the point of swopping Chavanga for Nokwe…

  • Comment 34, posted at 29.07.08 09:01:55 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 34) : Neither offers much on defence

  • Comment 35, posted at 29.07.08 09:11:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) :

    you didn’t come up with that on your own did you? :lol:

    pretty good actually

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.07.08 09:25:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 36) : I did. Remember I’m also part bonehead :-)

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.07.08 09:29:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : One knows the ‘plan’ or ‘lack of plan’ a bit better than the others…

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.07.08 09:34:22 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @Villie (Comment 20) :

    Agree…no 14 is worth mentioning twice…
    And all that have played at 14 have been quite invisible 90% of the game…especially if compared to a Hayens who was not passed the ball out wide even once in the SA test but had a much bigger impact on the game than our wings had…
    Need someone that looks for work…my opinion why the Ausies are doing well….EVERYONE is looking to get in their…no matter their traditional positions…

  • Comment 39, posted at 29.07.08 09:42:18 by Hmmm Reply

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  • With all this moaning about not having a 14, are we going to see J Fourie given a go on the wing with Adi and JdV at center?

  • Comment 40, posted at 29.07.08 09:43:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 24) :

    I’ll have both!??!
    Heinke to scrum it up most of the game with Beasts fresh legs in the last 30 minutes!??!
    A definite winning combo…

    The other sided of the scrum is the real problem though!??!
    Will give CJ his dues…he did well in his last 2 games…think he was the only prop’s who scrummed in the Ausie test that did not give either a free kick or penalty away in teh scrums…

    Must say I almost wet myself when the Aussies had a 5 meter scrum and PdV brought Mujati on :shock: Luckily a free kick was given against the Ausies on the hit…
    Prayers are answered in sports….

  • Comment 41, posted at 29.07.08 09:50:20 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) : Seems so… :wink:

  • Comment 42, posted at 29.07.08 10:04:48 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 42) :

    No I didn’t ask what you WANTED, I asked what will happen :wink: :grin:

  • Comment 43, posted at 29.07.08 10:07:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) : Not a bad idea…

  • Comment 44, posted at 29.07.08 10:09:42 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • People talk about Heinke not being effective around the park…

    I ask you to follow him the next game…
    He puts in quite a number of tackles a game…yeh not in the numbers you’d expect from a loose forward or centre…but more than average for a prop…
    Plus he is at almost every tackle ball situation clearing or securing the ball…

    Yes he is not a ball carrier and you don’t see him carrying the ball up over the advantage line…but he does the ground work people often don’t see…
    Plus he is a awesome scrummiger….and gets the better of his opponent more times than not….

  • Comment 45, posted at 29.07.08 10:12:25 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 44) :

    I think it would be awesome and then depending on how the ganme goes the coach has the option of subbing either 13 or 14 when the time comes.

    Can’t sub 12, he will be the Captain. :wink:

  • Comment 46, posted at 29.07.08 10:12:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 43) : PDV’s obvious choice… :wink:

  • Comment 47, posted at 29.07.08 10:14:47 by Charlie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 46) : I sincerely hope so :mad: Matfield is not a Captain’s derriere end!

  • Comment 48, posted at 29.07.08 11:02:44 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Oh and by the way…Bolla is out too!??!

  • Comment 49, posted at 29.07.08 11:07:42 by Hmmm Reply

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