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Is Rassie coaching WP?


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Currie Cup, In the news, WP on 29 Jul 2008 at 11:55

Did anybody notice Rassie Erasmus on the Western Province bench during the Boland match at the weekend?

The Cape Times reports that Erasmus was constantly busy shouting into a walkie-talkie during the game, possibly discussing tactics with WP coach Allister Coetzee.

He was also shouting out instructions to the players whenever they came to his side of the field.

It is a bit of a role reversal, as in previous games Coetzee was either on the walkie-talkie or cellphone. Was he maybe on the phone to Erasmus? Who knows!

The late and rather odd changes to the starting team also had Erasmus written all over it.

Schalk Brits started at No 8 instead of hooker, while we had to wait until match-day to find out that Peter Grant would start ahead of Willem de Waal at flyhalf.

Erasmus has also been playing a major role at the WP practises this year.

Initially he only helped out with the lineout drills, where he assisted forwards coach Jacques Hanekom.

But during the last few weeks, he has been getting more involved with the on-field preparations by the day.

But then who is actually in charge of the WP Currie Cup team?

Erasmus is the WP senior professional coach. He only coaches the Stormers and then he is supposed to help build up the structures of all the WP representative teams.

His duties also include recruiting and contracting players for the senior professional teams.

So I don’t know why he is at the side of the field on Currie Cup match days!



38 Comments

  • Didn’t Coetzee mention that Rassie will have a ‘hands on’ approach during the CC?

    Well, I for one am yet to see Coetzee do anything good with WP since he took over.

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.07.08 12:02:58 by wpw Reply
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  • Very interesting question.

    I have two thoughts on the subject.

    1) I am not so sure anymore that I am upset that AC didn’t get the Bok job. WP have not done to well so far this season (neither have we actually :sad: )

    2) If Rassie is now getting involved with the WP side then i think it is damned unfair and windgat. WP may have lost against two of the minnows, away from home, in the CC and have now beaten the third minnow convincingly in CT. So if Rassie is involved it suddenly looks as if he is the saviour.

    That is so wrong IMO. I think WP would have beaten Boland in any case.

    Let’s see if Rassie is as involved against the Lions and let’s see who wins.

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.07.08 12:03:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I agree KSA Shark.

    And let us not forget that Rassie lost his first 3 games of the S14 season.

    Lets give AC a chance. I still don’t think he is such a great coach though.

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.07.08 12:07:28 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 1) :

    The actions described above seem a little more than hands on.

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.07.08 12:08:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 3) :

    And what happened after those first three games wes?

    You lot are hard to please.

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.07.08 13:20:00 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 5) :

    I think you misunderstood his comment.

    He is saying Rassie never got given a hard time or interfered with after his 1st three losses, why is Rassie interfering with AC after three losses?

    (Well that’s the way I read what he said) :wink:

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.07.08 13:29:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Spot on KSA Shark. :cool:

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.07.08 13:36:26 by wpw Reply
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  • Ahhh fair enough lads.

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.07.08 14:27:04 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • The coaches seat is too close to the field for Rassie, he prefers an elevated view.

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.07.08 15:47:08 by PJLD Reply
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  • Ther sooner Allister quits WP the better.
    I should give full lead to Rassie… :shock:

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.07.08 16:08:42 by H.O. Reply

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  • Agreed HO.

    I reall dont see why you need a separate s14 coach to CC coach when it’s essentially the same pool of players.

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.07.08 16:24:51 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 11) :

    Right man.
    I cannot write further personal opinions here, otherwise “wpw” answers me and says I write “HO we have enough of your politics”.
    let me have your email address so we can swap opinions.
    what do you think?
    if you agree just ask robdylan or ksa shark to let me have yours…
    tot siens

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.07.08 17:21:39 by H.O. Reply

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  • HO,

    Try me at vinnie[at]sharksworld.co.za

    I check it from time to time.

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.07.08 17:34:17 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @H.O. (Comment 12) : wpw is just a trouble maker ;) Nobody else takes him seriously.

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.07.08 17:35:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) :

    I think “wpw” is a keen and very competent rugby pundit. :shock: :shock:
    Pity yesterday he wanted to teach me how to post a comment… :lol:
    None is perfect so I am sure I make many mistakes nonetheless! :oops:

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.07.08 18:41:16 by H.O. Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 13) :

    Have a look at your email.
    I have just written you.
    Let me know :shock:

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.07.08 18:41:46 by H.O. Reply

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  • I shout instructions when the players run to my side of the field. I guess I am officially coaching the Sharks…

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.07.08 19:05:29 by blackshark Reply

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  • So, Heyneke Meyer only “assisted” Pote Human when he coached the Bulls CC team during a crisis, Dick Muir also assisted Plumtree last year when he was spotted at training during the CC, in the midst of a similar team crisis; but rumours suddenly abound that PDV and Coetzee are really not the real coaches at their respective sides, since other coaches are spotted at training.

    Really nothing wrong with those assumptions are there? :roll:

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.07.08 19:16:02 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 17) :

    Congratulations.
    Last Saturday you shouted so well the Sharks won 16-11. :wink:
    So go on shouting… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 29.07.08 19:16:36 by H.O. Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 18) :
    Allister really is a very bad coach.
    Snor (PdV) is not a coach at all…

  • Comment 20, posted at 29.07.08 19:17:50 by H.O. Reply

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  • @H.O. (Comment 20) : After failing to win at Dunedin for so many years…some wiz from SARU realised the secret to success was sending a randomly selected team without a coach…and it worked.:roll:

  • Comment 21, posted at 29.07.08 19:33:09 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 21) :
    unfortunately a new miracle won’t arise again.
    the sooner Snor is fired, the better…

  • Comment 22, posted at 29.07.08 19:34:50 by H.O. Reply

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  • HO. How come the only coaches u dont rate just happen to be non white? Yesterday u asked if Jongi Nokwe was a political selection cos u have never heard of him… Did u ask the same of Francois Steyn wen Jake selected him the 1st time wen hardly anyone knew who he was?

  • Comment 23, posted at 29.07.08 20:56:05 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 23) :

    Unfortunately you go on writing things on me that you don’t know.
    Moreover you write wrong words.
    I did not write that I had never heard of Jongi Nokwe.
    I just wrote I did not know his as a player that is I seldom remember to have seen him in action.
    In my opinion it’s a very different matter.
    Whether Allister and PdV (Snor) are bad coaches those are matters confirmed by many factors.
    I don’t care of people’s skin colour.
    Anyway you can fancy whichever you like on me.
    Just have a read to my previous comments posted here and you will notice I don’t like No. 46 (Luke Watson) for instance.
    In your opinion No. 46 is a black or coloured player?
    I can add I am a supporter of both Habana and JPP: are they two white players? I like very much Waylon Murray as a centre: in your opinion is he a white player?
    When I met Naas Botha some years ago I told him that Errol Tobias was much better than him as a flyhalf.
    In your opinion Naas Botha is a non-white people?
    And Errol Tobias is a white man?

  • Comment 24, posted at 29.07.08 21:19:04 by H.O. Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 23) :

    During the 1990′s I was a huge supporter of former WP senter Tinus Linee and of utility back Vlok Cilliers.
    If you remember both, let me know if they were two white players…

  • Comment 25, posted at 29.07.08 21:20:33 by H.O. Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 23) : Uuuhhh!! Politics my good man!!!!! :cool:

  • Comment 26, posted at 29.07.08 21:22:48 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • This article is pointless…so what if Rassie is helping out , why wouldn’t/shouldn’t he.Alistar can only learn from the assistance and news flash they coach together for the super14.It smacks of undermining AC.

  • Comment 27, posted at 29.07.08 21:56:15 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 27) :
    Exactly! Why is this suddenly such shocking news?

  • Comment 28, posted at 29.07.08 22:00:28 by Big Fish Reply
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  • I wish the Sharks could get a Backline Coach to sit on their sidelines and shout some instructions. Look at how Lote Tequiri is playing for the Ausies has that guy stepped it up a notch or 2 he looks very hungry. I just don’t seem to get the feeling there is a hunger to achieve in the Sharks at the moment. Only Adi seemed enthusiastic when he came on the field. Its that enthusiasm which is missing its like its just another day at the office for the rest.

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.07.08 00:57:49 by Dynamite Reply

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  • @H.O. (Comment 25) : @wpw (Comment 23) : If the two of you intend to carry on with this particular discussion, kindly do it somewhere else

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.07.08 06:53:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • Thanks a lot to the Cape Times for writing a pointless article…do they recruit from voldy ?

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.07.08 08:34:26 by blackshark Reply

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  • @H.O. (Comment 25) : :cry:

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.07.08 08:51:03 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 32) : And then ? You miss them so much ?

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.07.08 08:56:58 by blackshark Reply

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  • :lol: hit the wrong icon

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.07.08 09:10:22 by PJLD Reply
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  • Dont be mistaken, Rassie has been very involved in this team from the outset. he may not have been at all of the practices but he has dictated team selecton and strategy. The previous losses are as much his fault as they are coetzee’s, but I think that he has been using coetzee as a puppet to take the blame for chances taken that dont work. I have it on good authority that coetzee would phone rassie from the changing room at half time to get instructions for the second half. Sad…really sad.

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.07.08 10:33:30 by wpforlife Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 34) :

    Heheheheheh Plonker!!!!!!!!!

    Had me trying to figure out why you found it sad as well.

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.07.08 10:37:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) :

    you have my word I won’t go on discussion with “wpw” neither on this thread nor in future ones.

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.07.08 14:30:05 by H.O. Reply

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  • @H.O. (Comment 37) : ok – probably the most mature way to deal with it. You can talk to the rest of us ;)

  • Comment 38, posted at 30.07.08 14:51:32 by robdylan Reply
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