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De Waal blow for Vodacom WP

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Currie Cup, In the news, WP on 4 Aug 2008 at 21:30

Vodacom WP are ravaged by injury before their Absa Currie Cup match against the Natal Sharks at Newlands on Friday evening.

wprugby.com reports that Flyhalf Willem de Waal on Monday was ruled out of Friday’s match due to a hip injury.

WP coach Allister Coetzee confirmed De Waal will see a specialist on Tuesday to assess the extent of the damage, but the initial feeling is that it could be serious. The former Cheetahs pivot will thus definitely not play against the Sharks at Newlands in the first round of the Absa Currie Cup competition.

The news is a huge blow for Province, who will be down to their fifth-choice pivot. Springbok Peter Grant is out for two months with a shoulder injury while Isma-eel Dollie is on loan to Boland. Ricardo Croy is also unavailable due to his involvement with the South Western Districts Eagles.

Coetzee was uncertain about a possible return for Dollie, who shone for Boland in their narrow defeat to the Cheetahs the past Saturday.

“I’m not sure if he would come back at this stage,” Coetzee commented. “He’s just got there. I think if he came back to WP now, he wouldn’t be able to go back.

“What it does go to show is how this would have been the perfect opportunity for him to step into the starting line-up. If he had been more patient he would have got an opportunity.”

WP under-21 flyhalves Coenie van Wyk and Matthew Rosslee alternated at 10 at the senior side’s training session on Monday. Coetzee was yet to decide which player will face the Sharks.

Apart from De Waal, centre Dylan des Fountain is out of action with a dislocated toe. One of Morgan Newman – who replaced him on Saturday – or PJ Vermeulen should fill that gap.

Exciting hooker Deon Fourie is another doubtful after splitting his upper lip against the Lions in the defeat to the Lions in Johannesburg on Saturday. Schalk Brits could move back to hooker, and subsequently promising 19-year-old Nick Koster could be starting at No 8.

Prop Brok Harris is also on the doubtful list with a bump on the knee, but the WP camp was hopeful that he would be ready to take his place.

Coetzee however had only positive things to say about Brits’ performances at the back of the scrum. “It becomes clearer that we need speed amongst the loose-forwards. Francois Louw played excellently. I know there are people who say Schalk doesn’t belong at No 8 but he has speed and turned over four balls for us.”

The coach admitted that he has a tough week ahead of him in the build-up to Friday night’s game against a Sharks team that’s been bolstered by three returning Springboks.

“I’ve got a lot of hard decisions to make this week, but you have to give these youngsters a chance. I still have (flyhalf) Naas Olivier available but you also want to give these guys an opportunity.

“It may seem like a gamble but look at guys like Robert Ebersohn and Nick Koster who’ve already made such an impact.”

Province are now fifth on the point’s table after their defeat in Johannesburg and need a win to stay in touch with the top four.


  • OUCH!

    This is playing into our hands nicely

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.08.08 21:32:18 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • Bad luck for the Pink Ladies.

    Lets hope they play Naas “Revolving Door” Olivier at 10. :twisted:

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.08.08 21:39:07 by Big Fish Reply
    Big FishAssistant coach
  • Is this just Rassie playing games?

    Or is it Murphy, who says that the minute you let the flyhalf you have ignored all season go to another province, you will need him.

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.08.08 21:40:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Oh and Hold off on wasting 10 points to trade De Waal for the Fantasy league until you KNOW what his prognosis is :wink:

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.08.08 21:43:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :
    Yeah, well, as you know, Murph has a very weird sense of humour.

    Wonder how that crazy bugger is doing?

    Cant blame Dollie for leaving – not easy watching your career stall to a complete stop.

    Look at Earl Rose – was pretty ordinary for 2 seasons, but Loffie played him out of necessity, and his skill shines through more and more.

    I enjoy watching him play – a smart player with very quick feet. I think he will have another good season.

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.08.08 21:45:37 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 5) :

    Yip Rose has certainly made me sit up and take notice this season. Nobody would have said that Rose has a dman good chance to be the Highest point scorer in the CC this year 7 weeks ago.

    AND NOW he is 31 points ahead of his nearest rival :shock:

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.08.08 21:53:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) :
    He will never be the most physical player, but he brings oodles of skill and vision to the party, not to mention a very mean side step.

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.08.08 22:28:39 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 7) :

    I WILL however stick to my age old tradition of first seeing how he plays in the S14 next season before I voice final opinion on his abilities though, but agree with what you are saying for THIS level.

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.08.08 22:31:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) :
    Fair enough – I’m not saying he should be a Bok, but I do enjoy watching his brand of rugby in amongst the hulking players we have nowadays.

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.08.08 22:37:36 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 9) :

    That much was clear to me. :wink:

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.08.08 22:40:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Remember how confident we were going into the last game against Province

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.08.08 22:45:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) :

    Yeah and we won that!

    Who cares that it was only by 3 points :roll: :oops:

  • Comment 12, posted at 04.08.08 22:48:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) :
    I got a good feeling dude – the Black and White will win big.

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.08.08 22:52:52 by Big Fish Reply
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  • We just have to build on last week, use those Bok gains and those WP losses to our advantage.

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.08.08 22:56:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Exactly what I needed…one more dash in my FL… Not bad for the Sharks though…

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.08.08 07:06:35 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 15) : Did you get my mail?

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.08.08 07:21:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • de waal is sick and tired of playing behind crap forwards, and is kak bang the sharks are going to klap him one way pillay. he’s tchoening it is better to fake an injury than take the snotklappe. as i said yesterday come friday there will be chumming in newlands.

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.08.08 07:41:17 by try time Reply

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  • rassie must be getting peed off with how coetzee has turned all his good work to shit. he will have to rebuild the team again next year.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.08.08 07:43:10 by try time Reply

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  • makes you wonder what the rugby administrators in this country are thinking. why have two seperate coaches for cc and s14. not only do the players have to adjust to the different styles, the better coach always has to repair the damage made by the weaker coach.

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.08.08 07:50:22 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 19) :

    Chune us what you really mean…lol!

    Sharks 38- Chum 18

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.08.08 08:52:58 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • No mention of WP having signed Lobberts for a year?

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.08.08 09:15:09 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 21) :

    Doubt they will now they have Vermeulen…

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.08.08 09:24:55 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 22) : It was announced in the Cape Times this morn. Let me find the article.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.08.08 09:41:53 by molly Reply
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  • anyone got a Cape Times subscription?
    You have to be a subscriber to see the article:

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.08.08 09:47:15 by molly Reply
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  • If it was in the Cape Times this morning then it will be on IOL a bit later today :wink:

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.08.08 09:51:56 by PJLD Reply
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  • According to IOL Frans has been practicing at 12 Michelak at 10 and Ruan at 9, looks like all will be happy on Friday lets hope the supporters will have another good weekend! What will happen I wonder if Ruan rediscovers his Mojo and has a cracker at 9 this weekend? He is hungry for that jersey, may be all the motivation he needs to reclaim it.

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.08.08 11:20:39 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 7) :

    I am a bit skeptical about him at 10…he does not always make the best decision and his accuracy in his passing lets him down…plus he is a liability in defense in that channel…
    He is in my opinion the best 15 in the comp…he uses the space he has at 15 really well…and his best passages of play the last weekend was when he fell back to field kicks when Ludik was caught up in a ruck or on defense…

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.08.08 11:21:32 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 19) :

    Why ADMINISTRATORS, It is only WP who have that situation

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.08.08 11:25:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • If this was the injury he picked up against the LIONS during the game…then he did not perform too badly…
    The coach needs a smack for not placing cover for him at 10 on the bench….

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.08.08 11:26:04 by Hmmm Reply

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  • I’ll so play Newman at 13…even when the Bokke are back…

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.08.08 11:27:06 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Yeh…all the other provinces the coaches are the same in both comps!???!

    A WP problem…not a SA rugby problem…

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.08.08 11:28:02 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Lets just say the Sharks win…and neither team gets a bonus point…that will put Province with at least a bonus point victory from 4th place…
    And the past has shown that is a bigger gap to make up in six games as it looks…
    Second round all teams tend to get bonus point victories over the likes of Valke/Griekwas/Kavaliers…and even if you beat the 4th placed team, they tend to get a bonus point and still maintain a 2 point gap…then you are reliant on them losing to all the front runners and your team beating all the front runners….

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.08.08 11:40:13 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 24) :

    or you could just post the whole article here :wink:

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.08.08 12:52:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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