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Pietersen retains WP #10 spot


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Currie Cup, In the news, WP on 11 Aug 2008 at 07:08

Western Province coach Allister Coetzee, who bemoaned the inexperience that cost his side dearly as the Sharks ran out 32-10 winners in their Currie Cup encounter at Newlands last Friday, has revealed that Joe Pietersen will continue in the No.10 jersey.

Rugby 365 reports that Pietersen, a fullback or wing, made his Currie Cup debut in the No.10 channel – when he came up against the Sharks’ veteran French international Frédérick Michalak.

However, despite his obvious lack of experience in this position, De Villiers says he will persist with the youngster as his pivot.

Coetzee felt that the final scoreline was not a true reflection of the match between Province and the Sharks.

“I must say the Sharks were clinical and their experience showed in the match,” said Coetzee.

“The score, however, was not a true reflection of the way the game went.

“Despite the defeat, there were positives, one of which was the splendid debut [in a run-on XV] by Nick Koster, he was outstanding.”

Once again WP surrendered an early soft try and Coetzee said it was bound to happen. The Sharks scored after only 40 seconds through Skipper Badenhorst after WP failed to gather a line-out deflection.

“With so many youngsters in the mix, mistakes are bound to happen and again we gave away a soft, early try. It’s something that we’ve been aware of because it’s happened before.

“I was pleased with Joe Pietersen at flyhalf, and I’m forced to persevere with him. He took a heavy knock which forced him to leave the field.”

At one stage in the second half, WP fielded several Under-21 players who had entered the fray from the replacements’ bench in the second half.

“I was very pleased with the way the youngsters played, and I was pleased with the physicality we showed,” said Coetzee.

“Physically we stood up to them, although many of their players were much bigger than ours.”

WP captain Gcobani Bobo said he was impressed with his side’s display, despite the defeat.

“I’m happy that the younger guys are kicking on, and keeping the traditions of WP rugby alive.”

John Plumtree, the Sharks coach, said WP were “impressive” but his side finished well.

“WP were playing a type of game that we really could not crack,” said Plumtree.

“We only gained the upper hand in the last 20 minutes of the match.

“I’m sure that WP will feel that the scoreline did not do them justice.

“It must be hard for Allister [Coetzee, and WP] because the expectations are high but he has to work without so many of his Springboks.”



30 Comments

  • Who cares if the Springboks are not available???

    These idiots need to stop making excuses and find solutions.

    Sending 2 of your flyhalves to other unions is just plain stupid and it IS coming back to haunt them.

    Pietersen is NOT a flyhalf and is clearly not good enough, not even at CC level.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.08.08 08:00:50 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 1) :

    And add to that the fact that they would rather use a Non-flyhalf at flyhalf than Roslee who IS a flyhalf and you have to start asking some serious questions.

    Rassie and Alister need to have a good look at what they are doing.

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.08.08 08:11:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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    What would happen if Grant, De Waal and Brown (if he does get contracted again) gets injured (heaven forbid) during or at the start of next years S14???

    Who will Rassie call up to replace them??? Pietersen???

    They are being so short sighted… They should have given Croy or Dollie some game time to gain experience and because THEY ARE WP’s other contracted flyhalves.

    Oh and one last thing… (for Vinnie)

    Did you know that Dollie does NOT have any caps for WP at CC level???

    SO your claim that he is not good enough isn’t justified. How can he be judged if he hasn’t played for WP at CC level???

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.08.08 08:26:01 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 3) :

    Who will Rassie call up to replace them??? Pietersen???

    All the Boks will be available so he can use Luke 46 . :wink:

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.08.08 08:34:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 3) :

    On a serious note though.

    I do believe that Dollie MAY be being short changed by WP. He IS contracted to them so should really get a chance to play.

    BUT

    Someone was saying that Dollie can’t even get as spot at his club SKW becasue so other flyhalf is keeping him out of the team. So it is not just WP that are not selecting him though, it is his club as well.

    Is he maybe JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH? The problem I have with that is that it seems he will never be given a chance to prove that. Although he IS being played at Boland, how is he doing there?

    (More questions than answers in that post I am afraid)

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.08.08 08:39:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) :

    Dude

    I’m being serious. :evil:

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.08.08 08:39:19 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 6) :

    So was I. Well in my next post anyway :wink:

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.08.08 08:44:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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    I was the one who said that…

    I’ve been in contact with a friend of Dollie’s (who happens to be one of our clients)

    Look, the guy seems to be playing well for Boland and why does WP contract him if they do not intend on playing him???

    It just doesn’t make sense.

    I’ve seen him play and I think he is quite good. I also think its just plain ridiculous that Pietersen is being selected as a flyhalf and he is a winger cum fullback.

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.08.08 08:46:09 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 8) :

    I agree 100% and know EXACTLY how you feel. Cast your mind back to my rants in the S14 about Steyn being played everywhere axcept 12 :sad:

    Hopefully the next Boland match will be on TV so that i can also have a good look at Dollie for change as i have very little to form an opinion on at this stage.

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.08.08 08:51:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • We can always do swop a few props (Cilliers + Carstens/Beast) for Dollie and Croy.

    Both are much better players ‘imho’ than Dumond. :twisted:

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.08.08 08:55:08 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 10) :

    I think we may be needing props in Dbn soon. Why else would we have bought the Argentinian?

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.08.08 09:02:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :evil:
    Pieterson was such an abortion at 10 it hurt to watch ,ill put a thread up about it later but im still playing work catchup.

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.08.08 09:08:10 by PJLD Reply
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  • I was just looking at the fixtures to se who your next match is against and it struck me that your next match is only on 29 August.

    Why are they making this call on who will play 10 so early? Surely they have time to go looking at SKW etc before the 29th?

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.08.08 09:16:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 9) : careful what you wish for. Boland’s next game is against the Sharks.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.08.08 09:16:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) :

    Well then I will certainly be watching it.

    Pity that I will be wishing for Dollie to have a shocker though :wink:

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.08.08 09:19:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • As a club rugby player in the WP I do not believe this story that there aint any better 10′s playing in Slaapstad then Joe Pietersen… :evil:

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.08.08 09:44:19 by Charlie Reply

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  • Wow, WP get a 22 point hiding, a 4 tries to 1 hiding and all and sundry at Newlands are happy.FFS, this game was played at NEWLANDS.

    And we were getting annoyed with Johan Muller telling us week in and week out how the Sharks must improve and that they are not happy with what they were putting out on the park – this while they were winning.

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.08.08 09:45:56 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 17) : Who was happy?

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.08.08 09:48:51 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 18) :

    Dollie not having to be behind this poor excuse of a team…

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.08.08 09:52:44 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 18) :
    Management and captain dont come across as too stressed to me. Fans are not happy.

    @bryce_in_oz (Comment 19) : :twisted:

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.08.08 09:58:27 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • At stages WP were looking good and the scrum even stood up well, the players were running into gaps and it was great to watch.
    After a while they started running into players instead of space, actually its like everyone was aiming at one player , Jean Deysel ,i just want to know whose brilliant idea that was. :?:

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.08.08 10:10:11 by PJLD Reply
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  • I only watched the game on TV, but never once got the impression that the Sharks were under the kosh and felt any serious pressure. I felt that there were still a few gears that they could have gone up if it was necessary. All in a days work actually.

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.08.08 10:22:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 22) :

    I agree but feel the need to add that while we were not under pressure I was expecting a lot bigger score come half time and was surprised that we had such a slender lead.

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.08.08 10:27:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 23) :
    I also thought so but in hindsight Im sure the Sharks realised that the Stormers would come at them hard in the first half and then hopefully be a spent forc in the 4th quarter.

    On Superbru I had the Sharks by 19 so can’t complain too mush. :lol:

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.08.08 11:24:14 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • it was a great performance against a team that was nowhere near as weak as they were made out to be. 4 tries to 1 against Province at Newlands? It’s downright petulant to expect better than that, boys!

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.08.08 11:27:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • Agree, hence my #17 post.

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.08.08 12:02:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I just read the most bizzare post on another rugby site.

    Apparently Joe Pietersen has the attributes of former New Zealand flyhalf Nick Evans.

    bwahahahahahahaha

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.08.08 15:33:43 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 27) : lemme guess… KEO

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.08.08 15:58:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • Not even close…

    I found it on a WP Club rugby site… one of the eejits on the site…

    :cool:

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.08.08 16:06:52 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 29) : you seem to hang out with a lot of eejits ;)

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.08.08 16:31:16 by robdylan Reply
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