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Epic battle awaits


Written by Morné Nortier (Morné)

Posted in :Original Content, Tri Nations on 13 Aug 2008 at 11:34

The teams have been named and we are all set for a battle of epic proportions this coming Saturday.

If we take all the emotion out of the equation like Percy’s 100th test cap he will earn this weekend and Juan Smith’s 50th, everything boils down to one thing – this will be one of the most important tests since the 2007 World Cup Final and definitely a test in which Peter de Villiers’ short reign will define his future as coach.

A win for either team will put them in a strong position to go on and win the Tri-Nations. For New Zealand this is vitally important. Their coach, Graham Henry, is under just as much, if not more pressure than Peter de Villiers, and with their World Cup failure, the New Zealand public will accept nothing less than a Tri-Nations title.

For Peter de Villiers, constantly in the firing line, it will be his first big test at home with a loss basically spelling the end of South Africa’s hope to win the Tri-Nations, also surrendering the number 1 ranking we currently have. And that, for the World Champions will be unacceptable to the South African public.

De Villiers who has met stern resistance in the media and public already will find it hard to find guys to support him and his vision if the Springbok are going to lose.

The selection of the teams, specifically on De Villiers’ side indicates that this game is a win-at-all-costs game for him, where he fell back on the tried and tested and apart from injuries, selected almost everyone from the World Cup winning side of 2007.

Conservatism it seems, has won the battle over adventurism, and it is clear that for now, experimentation is put on the backburner in favour of going the tried and tested route.

Winning means a lot to South Africans when it comes to rugby. And not only winning the big tournaments like the World Cup, but winning every test. Just ask Jake White when he tried to justify his selections at times in his building towards the World Cup!

Playing at home will be a major advantage to the Boks, but playing the Kiwi’s at Newlands in Cape Town might not count for all that much. The weather, height above sea-level and conditions underfoot is something New Zealand is quite used to and likes, and with Richie McCaw back and Dan Carter in great form it is going to be an almighty battle.

The Boks have been slightly weakened by the loss of Bakkies Botha, one of the very few Boks who played with high intensity throughout the test season so far delivering man-of-the-match performances in just about every game.

The earlier loss of John Smit is also huge, especially since the captaincy armband seems to affect Victor Matfield’s overall performance since he took over.

The All Blacks made a mockery of the South African scrum in Wellington, and in Cape Town I certainly do not expect the Boks to suddenly dominate this aspect of the game. If the Boks, like against Argentina, can hold their own in this department it will be good enough – but I have my doubts about that even.

The line-out’s are also not the secure platform and force it used to be for the Boks. Victor’s slight dip in form, the loss of Botha and a new hooker in Bismarck all plays a part in this, so for my money the All Blacks should be on par with the Boks in this department.

Richie McCaw is back, and against the Aussies a couple of weeks back it is quite simple to see what influence this guy makes to a team. Luckily for South Africa they have Schalk Burger back, but it will take a collective effort from Schalk, Spies and Juan to gain parity at the breakdown – a very important part of the modern game.

The problem we have here is that Juan Smith too has not been at his best form since the World Cup last year and Pierre Spies is yet to convince most that he is the machine we saw last year ripping defences apart.

Fourie du Preez is a major boost for the Boks, and a clever selection by De Villiers in my view. Many will cite the influence January had in 2005 when the Boks beat the Kiwi’s at Newlands where he put Carter under immense pressure, but people also tend to forget that the Kiwi’s lost their star scrummy at the time, Kelleher, in the opening exchanges of the game who is just as good at hassling his opposite number.

Du Preez brings clinical, crisp service and is one of the reasons Butch had a great World Cup last year. His educated boot, in a territorial dominant war will also be crucial where Butch can concentrate more on his natural game.

Carter is in my view in the form of his life at the moment, and it will take some stopping to get this guy to stuff up like he did in 2005 – but I know one thing, if the Kiwi’s are on the back foot, not even Carter has an influence.

For the Boks the selection of Habana, Pietersen and Monty is vital and a good move again by De Villiers – these three guys and their experience will be vital to negate the tactical game Carter is sure to employ.

Monty of course is deadly accurate with his penalties, and offers a left boot as an option in addition to Fourie’s base kicking which again will help Butch tremendously.

I believe the All Black centers and back three are their weak points when comparing it to the Boks. Kahui is a talented player, but far from an international class wing. He is up agains Habana who is due a big one and if Jean de Villiers can give Adi Jacobs a bit of space, I believe Jacobs could own Conrad Smith.

Nonu does nothing but crash the ball up. There is little variety in his play and apart from turn-over ball from which any team is dangerous, the All Blacks creativity on attack falls flat at Nonu.

I would love to see the Boks implement a rush-defence closing in around Nonu quite often and giving Smith no space – something I have not seen enough this season yet – but I will have to wait and see.

I believe it is going to be an extremely tight game, turn-overs are going to be vital and if tries are going to be scored, I believe it will be against the run of play, or from turn-overs, not from constructive attacking rugby.

This is the biggest area of concern for me as the Boks concede far too many turn-overs.

A lot is going to depend on how the game will be controlled specifically at the breakdown, and if the referee applies strict laws here the Boks will definitely benefit more than the Kiwi’s.

Heart will always say Boks, but head says the Kiwi’s might take this one by 5 points or so thanks to our ability and skills, or lack thereof at the breakdown.

If our loosies and tight forwards come to the party though, we are good enough for a win at home by at least 8 points.

Too difficult to call but we will always hope for a Bok win.

Teams:

Springboks

15 Percy Montgomery, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Adi Jacobs, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Butch James, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Juan Smith, 6 Schalk Burger, 5 Victor Matfield (c), 4 Andries Bekker, 3 CJ van der Linde, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.

Replacements: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Brian Mujati, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Luke Watson, 20 Ricky Januarie, 21 Frans Steyn, 22 Conrad Jantjes

All Blacks

15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Richard Kahui, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Sitiveni Sivivatu, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Jimmy Cowan, 8 Rodney So’oialo, 7 Richie McCaw (c), 6 Jerome Kaino, 5 Ali Williams, 4 Brad Thorn, 3 Greg Somerville, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tony Woodcock.

Replacements: 16 Keven Mealamu, 17 John Afoa, 18 Anthony Boric, 19 Adam Thomson, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Stephen Donald, 22 Isaia Toeava.



88 Comments

  • Yea go Bruce Lee and bad synching !

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.08.08 11:56:21 by Sauce Reply
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  • awesome preview – thanks Morne!

    GO BOKKE

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.08.08 12:00:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • Really a 50/50 game , I also believe the breakdowns will decide this game and the AB’s have one over us in that department I think. What you failed to mention is our terrific defense and we could win this game without most of the posession and from defensive turnovers.It’s gonna be epic and hopefully a great rugby spectical

    I can’t wait it’s gonna be great.

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.08.08 12:03:37 by Pokkel Reply
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  • The kiwis only managed to score 2 tries (at home) against the boks in 160 min of rugby AWESOME

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.08.08 12:05:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I would feel a lot more comfy if this test was being played at Loftus or some other altitude venue. I look forward to a nail biter regardless though.

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.08.08 13:00:46 by Ollie Reply

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  • @Ollie (Comment 5) :

    I disagree, we got some of our biggest snottings at Loftus where the field is hard, air is thin and the play is fast.

    We need trench warfare stuff.

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.08.08 13:14:50 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 6) :

    Maybe, but if memory serves me correctly we have a bad win ratio at Newlands. Please correct me if I am wrong.

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.08.08 13:21:48 by Ollie Reply

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  • Before 2005, we last beat the AB’s there in the 70′s when Morne du Plessis was captain…

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.08.08 13:33:31 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 8) : are you named after him, BTW?

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.08.08 13:41:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • I honestly dont know mate, wouldn’t put it past it though.

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.08.08 13:44:04 by MorneN Reply
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  • If we play to our potential we can actually beat them comfortably…

    We are after all THE WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!

  • Comment 11, posted at 13.08.08 13:47:52 by wpw Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 10) : Nice piece Morne, I think is going to be EPIC and I hope that it isn’t a disappointment for us die-hard Bok fans

  • Comment 12, posted at 13.08.08 13:49:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I checked my stats, we’ve played the All Blacks 8 times at Newlands, Won 3 and lost 5.

  • Comment 13, posted at 13.08.08 13:50:21 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • Ok so Victor snotted Byron so hard he had to go home to his porn star girlfriend the last time round , who can we knock the f*%k out this time?

  • Comment 14, posted at 13.08.08 13:51:15 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 10) : according to Edward Griffiths’ book, “The Captains”, Morne du Plessis was only the second person ever to be born in SA with that name. It was a name that didn’t really exist as a popular name in SA before du Plessis’ rise to fame in the 70s. The inference is that EVERYONE born in the late 70s or early 80s with the name Morne is most likely named after him.

  • Comment 15, posted at 13.08.08 14:01:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : :shock:

  • Comment 16, posted at 13.08.08 14:02:31 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 13) :

    Thanks Walter, and do you have the stats for Ellis Park please?

  • Comment 17, posted at 13.08.08 14:05:03 by Ollie Reply

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  • Other local venues vs New Zealand:

    JHB – played 11, won 8
    Pretoria – played 5, won 1
    Durban – played 7, won 4
    Bloem – played 2, won 0
    PE – played 4, won 4
    Rustenburg – played 1, won 1

  • Comment 18, posted at 13.08.08 14:06:14 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 14) : easy, Mr Furious ;)

  • Comment 19, posted at 13.08.08 14:07:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) :

    It’s true!! I had a childhood friend who was named after him…and he was quite a good rugby player and cricketer..

  • Comment 20, posted at 13.08.08 14:07:59 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • WEll then lets take the tests to ol Boet Erasmus!!!!!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.08.08 14:08:23 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • Pretoria – played 5, won 1
    Bloem – played 2, won 0

    So much for thinking the Boere heartland gives us any advantage against the old foe.

  • Comment 22, posted at 13.08.08 14:08:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 18) :

    We should play in PE more…

  • Comment 23, posted at 13.08.08 14:08:56 by MorneN Reply
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  • @PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 21) :

    Hehehehe, that would make a couple of my family members plenty happy. :smile:

  • Comment 24, posted at 13.08.08 14:09:45 by Ollie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) :

    Interesting…

    Like I said I would not put it past it – having being born into a rugby mad family I would say the chances are pretty good.

    But then as far as I know the name also comes from French descent of which I am 3rd generation.

    @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 20) :

    Did we know each other when we were younger? :lol:

  • Comment 25, posted at 13.08.08 14:11:59 by MorneN Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 18) :

    Thanks

  • Comment 26, posted at 13.08.08 14:13:02 by Ollie Reply

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  • The only thing is that those 4 PE tests go way back…

    1928, 1949, 1960 and 1970…LOL!

  • Comment 27, posted at 13.08.08 14:13:41 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • Bench just doesn’t inspire me that we’ll be able to play the 22 man 85min rugby required (Strauss, Mujati, Watson)…

    I think some underrate the AB’s backs… if they play the same 1-10 brutal rugga they played against the Wobblies, they won’t need more than Nonu, Mils and Sivivatu anyways…

    AB’s by 12 points…

  • Comment 28, posted at 13.08.08 14:15:47 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 27) :

    Before they discovered wind in PE… ;)

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.08.08 14:16:08 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 29) :

    When Something Good burgers where still just that, something good. :grin:

  • Comment 30, posted at 13.08.08 14:19:38 by Ollie Reply

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  • @Ollie (Comment 30) : when James Small was the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion at Barneys Pool Bar… ;)

  • Comment 31, posted at 13.08.08 14:28:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) :

    hehehehe

  • Comment 32, posted at 13.08.08 14:38:56 by Ollie Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 25) :

    Maybe maybe…. :wink:

  • Comment 33, posted at 13.08.08 14:43:02 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 28) : Yeah well…if you put it like that it really looks uninspiring but I really hope Mujati won’t go backwards, Luke will play loose-forward and actually hustle for some possession and that Strauss will be able to throw high enough to find Bekker.

  • Comment 34, posted at 13.08.08 14:57:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 34) : I really enjoy Strauss… reckon he’s a gem.

    I would move Bis to 6 when he comes on. Then swap Luke for a proper loose forward

  • Comment 35, posted at 13.08.08 15:00:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : Another hooker that has impressed me lately is Willie Wepener..recon he’s gonna be Springbok material soon..and he’s from Newcastle. Played hooker for Newcastle High School and my younger brother was prop in the same team

  • Comment 36, posted at 13.08.08 15:07:11 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 36) : Wepenaar has been looking real good but now that Strauss has been capped do you reckon they going to throw another hooker into the mix?

  • Comment 37, posted at 13.08.08 15:13:40 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : I also have nothing bad to say about Strauss. He got his chance and he’s using it well so far. Let’s just say South Africa has no shortage of hookers. :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 13.08.08 15:14:25 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 36) : really? Another that we’ve lost…

    Although we can’t really complain about hookers at the moment.

  • Comment 39, posted at 13.08.08 15:14:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • I also think Wepener won’t let a Bok side down, but for some reason a lot of people (I think it was here) thinks otherwise?

  • Comment 40, posted at 13.08.08 15:16:52 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • Also, he did finish his high school in JHB, so you can’t really claim him (Wepener)

  • Comment 41, posted at 13.08.08 15:18:24 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) :

    You don’t?

    Skipper?

  • Comment 42, posted at 13.08.08 15:23:52 by MorneN Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) : Yeah…plenty of those in Durban too…

  • Comment 43, posted at 13.08.08 15:24:19 by blackshark Reply

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  • @PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 37) : No I don’t think they will try someone new now , but should there be injuries he could get a look in

  • Comment 44, posted at 13.08.08 15:25:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 41) : he he. We could only claim him if he finished his schooling on Jock Meiring Street.

    Certainly wasn’t me slating him, though. Reckon he’s a great hooker.

  • Comment 45, posted at 13.08.08 15:26:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 42) : well – it would be a bit harsh to bring in another hooker now, because he’d get ZERO Super 14 game time with Smit, Bissie and Burden around.

    Hell, even old Skip has looked pretty bloody good the last two weeks.

  • Comment 46, posted at 13.08.08 15:27:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) :

    I’m pretty sure it was here though, as it’s the only rugby website I visit other than my own these days…LOL!

  • Comment 47, posted at 13.08.08 15:29:54 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 47) : high praise indeed! I think it’s time I banned myself from Keo again. It’s just not worth it.

  • Comment 48, posted at 13.08.08 15:32:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 34) :

    Team dynamics more so with them particularly lOOK… I don’t get that ‘back each other up at all costs’ feel when I see him on the bench…

    The other big thing is we are playing without a captain… and not just any captain…

  • Comment 49, posted at 13.08.08 16:04:55 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Great article – stop reading my bloody mind! :wink:

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 50) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 14.08.08 08:14:34 by Charlie Reply

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  • Copy and paste:

    “Don’t blog here much so gonna stick me neck out far in advance:
    * Dry weather: RSA 28 – NZ 23
    * Wet weather: RSA 21 – NZ 17

    Simply stated RSA by around 5

    Comment 27, posted at 10.08.08 11:02:18 by saffa_bok “

  • Comment 52, posted at 14.08.08 08:36:43 by saffa_bok Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : Nobody are born with a name. :roll: :roll:

  • Comment 53, posted at 14.08.08 08:50:33 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Copy and paste:

    “Don’t blog here much so gonna stick me neck out far in advance:
    * Dry weather: RSA 28 – NZ 23
    * Wet weather: RSA 21 – NZ 17

    Simply stated RSA by around 5

    Comment 27, posted at 10.08.08 11:02:18 by saffa_bok “

    @saffa_bok (Comment 52) : Hey dude, you just answered a question of mine which no-one cared to do… :evil: :evil: :grin:

  • Comment 54, posted at 14.08.08 09:02:03 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Great news guys Pat Cilliers is back in action, and playing this weekend in the U21, coming off the bench, but boy oh boy the Sharks are looking ever more menacing :grin:

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  • Legendary Springbok flyhalf Naas Botha has always had a gift of making money for himself. Here he shares his opinion on how to save the CC from mediocrity with Craig Lewis. A lot of what he says makes sense to me!!

    By Craig Lewis

    Springbok legend Naas Botha believes having “privately owned” local rugby unions that could buy the best players from around the world may be a way to spice up the Currie Cup.

    Botha said a system of this nature, similar to cricket’s Indian Premier League (IPL) and soccer’s English competitions, could be worth considering as a means of improving the Currie Cup that is “sometimes not up to standard”.

    Reflecting on the inter-provincial competition so far, Botha said there had been some “fantastic” matches but also a few where “ridiculous mistakes” were being made.

    “The Currie Cup is vital to local rugby and we can’t do without it. But realistically we need to find a way to ensure it is of the best possible quality,” he said.
    “I think it is worth considering the possibility of having privately owned unions. In that way franchises can go and buy whichever players they want, even if they are based overseas.

    “This would solve the problem of having players involved in the Currie Cup who aren’t good enough to be there,” he added. “We can make rugby a fantastic sport in this country. We just need to all sit down and consider the best way to achieve that.”

    What about rescheduling the tournament so that the Springboks could have a larger involvement in the competition?

    “Ja, some teams seem to be just waiting for their Boks to return and, of course, when they do, there will be some phenomenal matches, but there is no way we could reschedule the tournament,” Botha said.

    “The players’ schedules are too packed already and the Super 14 and Tri-Nations cannot be changed because both competitions are very important in terms of marketing the sport.”

    The former Springbok flyhalf added that he did not think cutting some teams out of the Currie Cup or reducing the number of games would be the way to go either.

    Commenting on whether he thought Sharks stars Ruan Pienaar and Frans Steyn needed to specialise in one position, as has been suggested by Bok coach Peter de Villiers, Botha said the duo should choose where they wanted to play and then needed to receive the support of their coaches.

    “I have always believed that the two of them are good enough to establish themselves in one position. They must play wherever they want to. If Ruan wants to play at flyhalf and so does Frans, then they must take each other on.

    “It’s not good to see them constantly being shuffled around. We must stop wasting their time. In many ways, coaches have put these two players in an awkward position where they haven’t been given a fair and lengthy opportunity to show what they can do in one position.”

    And did he think it was a major blow to Springbok rugby that Sharks centre Brad Barritt has signed a three-year contract with London club Saracens?

    “Yes and no. Players must go where they want to go. The grass is not always greener on the other side, but it can be a good experience.

    “In professional sport you will always have players who want to play elsewhere and that is fine. If he is good enough, then one day he could come back and play for the Boks, but if he wants to play for England then so be it.”

    Botha said it was too early to predict a winner in the Currie Cup and said he did not expect the Boks to just “turn up and run over” the All Blacks in the Tri-Nations this weekend.

    This should have been a thread, do not let me stop you.

  • Comment 56, posted at 14.08.08 09:31:04 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Good morning guys , heres an aritcle some might wanna see about the sharks
    I know its off the article above but i reckon some good news none the less

    Patric Cilliers will make his much-awaited return to competitive rugby this weekend as the Absa Under 21 and Under 19 competition gets underway for the Junior Sharks’ sides against Free State.

    Although he did get some game time in the Vodacom Cup for the Wildebeest earlier in the year following a knee injury sustained in the Currie Cup a year ago, he had to undergo a minor procedure earlier this year and is now back in action as the competition gets going for the age group teams, with a number of games already having been played.

    In the Under 21 competition, the Blue Bulls lead from the Lions and Western Province, the only three sides having played matches, with Boland, Free State, Leopards and Sharks sides all yet to play in Group A.

    In the Under 19 competition, the Lions have won and drawn their opening two matches and top the log, with the Bulls in second and Western Province last, following their 47-19 defeat by the Lions. Twins Guy and Ross Cronje form the half-back pairing, with scrumhalf Ross captaining the side.

    The junior teams had a successful outing against Griquas two weeks ago, both sides putting 40 points over the Kimberley side in their warm-up matches, and will go into this game buoyed by that fact, but with the knowledge that this is traditionally a tough encounter.

    Sharks U21 vs Free State U21 (Friday 15th August, 4pm)

    15. Damien Jansen van Rensburg
    14. Senzo Sibiya
    13. Ian Adendorff
    12. Luzuko Vulundlu
    11. Danville Erasmus
    10. Wesley Dunlop
    9. Tiaan Meyer (Vice Captain)
    8. Warren Whiteley
    7. Eric Ngoie (Captain)
    6. Thiliphatu Marole
    5. Anton Bresler
    4. Luvuyiso Lusasani
    3. Wiehahn Herbst
    2. Gareth Light
    1. Dylan Rutherford

    Replacements
    16. Ulrich Pretorius
    17. Patric Cilliers
    18. Sewes Oosthuysen
    19. Lee Thompson
    20. Alexander Kock
    21. Olaf Eggers
    22. Menzi Ngidi

    Sharks U19 vs Free State U19 (2.30pm)

    15. Faizel de Bruin
    14. Mark Richards
    13. Arno van Zyl
    12. Wynand Pienaar
    11. Daniel Ojiambo
    10. Guy Cronje
    9. Ross Cronje (Captain)
    8. Meyer Swanepoel (Vice Captain)
    7. Lambert Groenewald
    6. Jason Kaschula
    5. Kenechukwu Okafor
    4. Jan Andre Marais
    3. Pierre Hanekom
    2. Johannes Snyman
    1. Dale Chadwick

    Replacements
    16. Kyle Cooper
    17. Dexster Fahey
    18. Francois Robertse
    19. Carl Marks
    20. Justin Botha
    21. Yazeed Johnson
    22. Logan Basson

  • Comment 57, posted at 14.08.08 09:41:09 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Springbok legend Naas Botha believes having “privately owned” local rugby unions that could buy the best players from around the world may be a way to spice up the Currie Cup

    And how would that help South Africa ?

  • Comment 58, posted at 14.08.08 09:43:47 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 58) : Good point, they will be like England in Soccer with the Strongest Soccer League in the world, and its clubs doing the Best in Europe, only problem come Euefa or World Cup England fails to qualify because all the stars leave to play for their country. While I am sure if the scouts did their job instead of being lazy and opting to buy the talent, they would find that there is talent in the country.

  • Comment 59, posted at 14.08.08 10:03:49 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 59) : Talent will be bought…

  • Comment 60, posted at 14.08.08 10:05:29 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 58) : Money would flow into the country. Local talent will be snapped up. Talent from abroad ( imagine Dan Carter ) will attract people. People generate money. Lots of pro’s actually.

  • Comment 61, posted at 14.08.08 10:10:49 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 61) : Could we really compete, the OZ Dollar is R7,00 we will not even go into the Sterling and Euro! Would we attract the real stars or just players that their country don’t want at the expense of our own?

  • Comment 62, posted at 14.08.08 10:13:37 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • damn this site is getting more difficult to even get a good morning

  • Comment 63, posted at 14.08.08 10:18:19 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • guess just wonder off back to keo

  • Comment 64, posted at 14.08.08 10:19:09 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 62) :

    Last I heard our players on average earns more than Aussies and Kiwi’s

  • Comment 65, posted at 14.08.08 10:20:12 by MorneN Reply
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  • RSA has more than enough talent to keep the CC exciting. The problem is the unions with money get all the good players.

    I’m all for injecting money to make all the unions competitive but there has to be another way. Let’s keep the CC as local as possible.

  • Comment 66, posted at 14.08.08 10:20:57 by blackshark Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 63) : Good morning! Coffee? Tea? Biscuit?

  • Comment 67, posted at 14.08.08 10:22:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 57) : check the piece that just went up ;)

  • Comment 68, posted at 14.08.08 10:22:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 62) : I believe he said ” privately owned “, which to my mind does not say the owner have to be a South African. Therefore currency would not be that important.

  • Comment 69, posted at 14.08.08 10:55:33 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 56) : Craig has promised to write us a piece about his discussion with Naas, amongst other things. I don’t want to steal his thunder.

  • Comment 70, posted at 14.08.08 11:08:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 70) : Did I stuffed up here? If so :oops:

  • Comment 71, posted at 14.08.08 11:15:31 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 71) : no – not at all.

    Just explaining why it hasn’t gone up as its own thread.

  • Comment 72, posted at 14.08.08 11:18:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 69) : Ok that would work! @MorneN (Comment 65) : Currency related or are They just getting more Rands? ’cause I also earn a hell of alot more than my cousin in Italy but hell she can afford a lot more and When I go there with my many rands I can only afford a coffee!

  • Comment 73, posted at 14.08.08 11:19:18 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 72) : “Did I” sounds wrong “Have I?” Help a troll out.

  • Comment 74, posted at 14.08.08 11:21:53 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 74) : Should be “Have I stuffed up”… or it could be “did I stuff up”, but that wouldn’t sound as natural.

  • Comment 75, posted at 14.08.08 11:28:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) : Fanks. :grin:

  • Comment 76, posted at 14.08.08 11:32:22 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 73) :

    Currency related.

    How many Zim dollars do you earn a month?

  • Comment 77, posted at 14.08.08 11:58:55 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 77) : She’s using her fingers to count. Will you kindly wait till…………… :cool:

  • Comment 78, posted at 14.08.08 12:12:48 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • slow day – is everyone else working?

  • Comment 79, posted at 14.08.08 12:18:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) : What the fooooook you mean Bubba? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

  • Comment 80, posted at 14.08.08 12:25:51 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 61) :
    SILVER, Old Friend Old Pal…Dan Carter has already got MY attention…. :wink: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 14.08.08 12:30:03 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 81) : It was meant for you Blonde one. I strive not to be too obvious. :razz: Are you by any chance an answer on @robdylan (Comment 79) : hopes? :grin:

  • Comment 82, posted at 14.08.08 12:34:45 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 82) :

    i am working too – but a day without visiting my fav website, is not a succesful day!! :wink: :wink:

    Sliver – How’s THAT for sucking up!! :twisted:

  • Comment 83, posted at 14.08.08 12:37:13 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 80) : there’s nobody around today :)

  • Comment 84, posted at 14.08.08 12:39:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 83) : We all do at times!! But why? I like you. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 85, posted at 14.08.08 12:40:12 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 83) : you can have anything you want ;)

  • Comment 86, posted at 14.08.08 12:45:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • Slow day, yes?

    Two old men sat in the park. By 09h30 one sighs ” Ja “.

    By 16H20 the other one sighs ” Ja- nee”.

    18Hoo ” Please be quiet for a change!!”

    Slow day, no?

  • Comment 87, posted at 14.08.08 12:51:11 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 78) : OK I have finished counting on my fingers and realised I earn South African Rands now I have to start all over again :twisted:

  • Comment 88, posted at 14.08.08 15:50:27 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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