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SA v NZ. Springbok Player ratings

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :All Blacks, In the news, Springboks, Tri Nations on 17 Aug 2008 at 06:15

The Springboks failed to live up to their pre-match billing as they suffered a 0-19 defeat at the hands of the All Blacks in their Tri-Nations clash at Newlands.

The game, which marked Percy Montgomery’s 100th Test cap, turned out to be a nightmare for the Boks as they failed to use their opportunities despite Kiwi flyhalf Dan Carter having an uncharacteristically poor day at the office with the boot.

Phil Coetzer of Rugby 365 does the honours this week and rates the Springbok players’ performances!

15 Percy Montgomery – A reasonable performance in his landmark match, but Monty will probably not remember it too fondly. A few errors in the second half and two poor kicks at goal put an end to Monty’s party. 6/10

14 JP Pietersen – One of the few Bok player to shine on the day. Pietersen’s star is certainly on the rise. He allowed an early high ball to bounce, which is never a good idea, but he raised his game from there and performed admirably. 7/10

13 Adrian Jacobs – Once again he seemed threatening without really punishing the All Blacks. Possibly butchered a try when he chose to go for the line instead of throwing the ball wide. 6/10

12 Jean de Villiers – Always dangerous on attack and posed the Boks’ biggest threat. Broke the line repeatedly but blotted his report card with a suicide pass to Keven Mealamu, although the contest was already lost. 7/10

11 Bryan Habana – The World Cup star is really struggling to find the form of previous seasons. He had few chances, but he seems to be guilty of forcing play at times, and his frustration is reflected in his recent performances. Left the field injured. 5/10

10 Butch James – He struggled to put his stamp on the game, and also made a number of errors when kicking. As always solid on defence though. 5/10

9 Fourie du Preez – Not his greatest game for the Boks unfortunately, and he was also not helped by a few unkind bounces that, like James, took the ball too far and over the dead-ball line. Got increasingly frustrated by the inability of his forwards to recycle the ball at the breakdown. 5/10

8 Pierre Spies – Some really great moments, such as flattening Ma’a Nonu on the charge. Seems to be picking up confidence, but still made a few crucial errors at important times. 7/10

7 Juan Smith – A player that had a profound impact at the World Cup, but had limited effect against the All Blacks. Smith was way too quiet during the match. 5/10

6 Schalk Burger – Always an energetic tackler, Burger sans blonde locks put in yet another good shift on defence. Struggled to get over the advantage line with ball in hand though. 6/10

5 Victor Matfield (captain) – Questions over Matfield’s form and ability as captain will increase after this performance. He’ll always be an ace in the line-outs, but the team never seems inspired under his captaincy. 5/10

4 Andries Bekker – A good home Test from the big lock, he seems destined to become a regular in the Bok team when the Matfield-Botha combination is no more. A very talented player in both the set phases and the in loose. 7/10

3 CJ van der Linde – The Bok scrum did pretty well against their Kiwi counterparts on the day, and the props must take credit. Little else from Van der Linde on the day though. 6/10

2 Bismarck du Plessis – Du Plessis sways from the sublime to the ridiculous in each match, and in open play, refuses to pass the ball before taking contact, which invariably spoils many opportunities for the wings. Lots of promise, but very poor decisions at times. 6/10

1 Tendai Mtawarira – What a player this man promises to be! Fantastic in the loose, stepping and running like a wing. Equally sensational in the scrum, Beast was the catalyst in a much-improved scrumming effort. 8/10

Replacements (20 minutes or more to be rated):

16 Adriaan Strauss – Did not play long enough to be rated.

17 Brian Mujati – Did not play long enough to be rated.

18 Danie Rossouw – Did not play long enough to be rated.

19 Luke Watson (replaced Schalk Burger in the 60th minute) – A few touches for Watson, but nothing match-altering. Went about his business in his usual low-key manner. 6/10

20 Enrico Januarie (replaced Fourie du Preez in the 60th minute) – Looked industrious and purposeful, and seemed keen to kill off memories of last week’s poor performance. Sloppy at times when the team needed a spark of inspiration. 6/10

21 François Steyn (replaced Schalk Burger in the 60th minute) – Failed to make much of an impact after replacing Montgomery in the second half. 5/10

22 Conrad Jantjes (replaced Bryan Habana in the 48th minute) – A few good claims from the high ball, but didn’t have all that much to do on attack. 6/10


  • Okay Sharksworld here is your assignment for the day. :wink:

    Please have a look around and see if you can find any other player ratings out there.

    I will do a piece this afternoon/evening calculating the average rating for each player from these ratings.

    This should remove any bias that each rating has :wink:

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.08.08 06:19:07 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • This guy is dreaming. CJ and Bismarck both get a six, CJ’s was an “adequate performance” and Bismarck’s more of a condemnation of his mistakes. CJ got pinged at one scrum and otherwise offered very little outside of that. Bismarck stole 2 or 3 balls, made some runs, and generally put in a huge effort. Spies gets a 7 but if you look at his play, he actually never really accomplished anythng special. Makes an argument for Kankowski.

    Luke 6/10 for “nothing match-altering and … usual low-key manner.”

    These smack of favourites rather than an attempt to be objective and rate a player on his performance rather than personal preferance.

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.08.08 08:26:24 by Baldrick Reply
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  • How can nobody get below 5 when we were so comprehensively stuffed? Will do my own ratings

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.08.08 09:30:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • Agreed, 5/10 is a passmark, and we didn’t really pass muster did we?

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.08.08 09:44:51 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 4) : no – average team performance must be 3.5 or lower… maybe Matfield was meant to get -5?

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.08.08 10:04:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 2) :

    @robdylan (Comment 3) :

    That’s why i asked for other ratings :wink:

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.08.08 16:13:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : did you find mine on the other thread?

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.08.08 16:56:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • here are Keo’s :

    Percy Montgomery (5) – The great man was distinctly average today with his most telling contribution being hooking two crucial penalties that would have put the Springboks ahead in the second half. He showed good anticipation and positional play, but his tactical kicking was ordinary. Worryingly he clearly lacks the pace to threaten defences on the counter-attack and looked decidedly uneasy under the high ball.

    JP Pietersen (4) – Chased tactical kicks all afternoon and never came off his wing looking for work. He has to up his work-rate if he is to be considered a truly world class winger. One line break in the second half set up a great scoring opportunity for Conrad Jantjes but unfortunately he wasn’t able to hold onto Butch James’ pass.

    Jean de Villiers (6) – He gifted the All Blacks their third try with a speculative pass, but that must not detract from another very good performance. Made a try saving hit on Tony woodcock when the All Blacks were sure to score with a four man overlap and had the better of Conrad Smith all afternoon.

    Adi Jacobs (6) – Good break early in the game and looked threatening throughout. Took the wrong option in the first half when there were numbers out wide, but can hardly be blamed for backing himself. Defensively he again shut up his detractors.

    Bryan Habana (6) – Dropped a high ball early on but improved thereafter, looking dangerous from broken field. The Springboks missed him when he was forced off with injury early in the second half.

    Butch James (4) – His kick-off to start the match drifted out on the full and that set the tone for an ordinary performance behind a pack that stood up well. His tactical kicking lacked accuracy and his option taking lacked variation. He’ll be under pressure t

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  • Comment 8, posted at 17.08.08 16:57:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • I had to suffer through the game listening to the kiwi commentators. It’s not fun. They do give you a different perspective though.
    They were not at all impressed with the Beast’s sideways running. He killed off several moves.

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.08.08 17:01:57 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : Man, the way they open each discussion with ” dragon this or dragon that ” cracks me up. :roll:

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.08.08 17:21:09 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 10) :

    It BURNS my crack. :evil:


  • Comment 11, posted at 17.08.08 17:56:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 11) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.08.08 18:15:16 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 11) : TMI

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.08.08 18:17:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • I have never liked Matfield, but at least he used to be able to play rugby. now he can’t catch or contest for the ball at line outs, his leadership, as usual his below par if there at all, I think its time we sent Victor back to France :twisted: I guess on Saturday we finally saw who really did the work in that combination!

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.08.08 07:43:22 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • These would be my ratings, I didn’t feel like talking about this game, but I’m ready to get it of my back today.

    Percy (4) – It was actually painful to see Percy play like this on his 100th test match it’s the worst game I saw him play. Bad Kicking, positional play, decision making, it was all just really horrible.

    JP (6) – He was quiet, accept for one break and a few chases after kicked ball, I think he needs to be brought into play more, players tend to go to Habana’s side and he’s having a dip in form.

    Adi (6) – He had a good game, combining well with Jean, spreading the ball wide nicely, always creating some sort of space for the guys next to him.

    Jean (6) – Tempted to give him less because of that stupid pass, but the Boks were basically out of the game by then. Aside from that he had a solid game.

    Habana (4) – I’m kind of excited that Nokwe gets a chance this weekend, Habana hasn’t been on his game, knocks, bad decisions (like that throw in at the start of the game) he’s pace is the only thing of his game that he has maintained.

    Butch (6) – He’s to harshly judged, his service to the backline was excellent and a couple of his passes put our guys into space, I agree his kicking wasn’t great, but the rest of his play was good.

    Fourie (4) – for a guy who was put in the team to take some pressure of his flyhlaf with his kicking he had a horrible game. I think it might have been a mistake to replace January who has been playing good rugby.
    His passing to the backline was quick and efficient though and that made our backs look a little better than previous weeks, but his kicking put the boks on the back foot constantly.

    Pier Spies (5) – Good in open play, but still not getting involved in the rucks, which is costing the Boks. I believe Joe van Niekerk did a better job at cleaning out the rucks and slowing down opposition ball and he is pretty good in open play too.

    Juan Smith (4) – His defense, that’s all I can give him points for. A loosie needs to be involved in play more, Juan needs to get back his form, guys like Wikus van heerden, Jean Deysel, Cobus Grobbelaar and Duanne vermuelen would have been a good replacement.

    Schalk (4) – He tried really hard, but if we want to believe everything the ref said he failed horribly. He gets to many of the rucks, but fails to have an impact. He’s transparent in carrying the ball and never got over the advantage line. There’s plenty of other fetchers who would love to have a shot at this position, Schalk needs to do what he became known for again.

    Matfield (3) – Well, I don’t even know where to start, but losing his temper with the ref must be somewhere at the top of the list. It shows incredible immaturity and has a negative effect on the ref and his players. The rest of his game wasn’t great either, looks like Victor needs Bakkies to look good in the line-outs, whatever it is, it needs to be sorted out soon.

    CJ (6) – Our front row really surprised us with their scrumming, I would still like to see him as a more effective player in securing clean ball. A lot of our guys seems to be just dead body weight around the ruck.

    Bismark (7) – John smit’s leadership and captaincy is really missed, but aside from that Bismark is doing a good job, he’s a strong ball carrier and is one of the guys who really gets involved in the rucks effectively. I think he and one of our guys on the bench was the only two who stole a couple of balls.

    Beast (7) – Good scrumming, good defense, good ball carrying, good rucking. Good overall.

    The bench, Strauss didn’t do anything wrong the 1 min he was on the field, Mujati, I think he just went on to get a cap and then the game was over, Danie Rossouw, maybe should have replaced our captain earlier, to bad it’s our Captain, Luke Watson didn’t really have enough time on the field, but did get involved in a couple of rucks, Steyn, I don’t like rating players out of position, so until Steyn gets a position I’ll just say it’s his coaches fault, January, not really an improvement on Fourie, Jantjes had a couple of gaps he just never saw, but he did play better than Percy.

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.08.08 17:39:06 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 15) : Bekker?

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.08.08 18:02:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : He he he, very observant!!! :lol:

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.08.08 18:39:15 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 17) : I do my best

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.08.08 18:51:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • Think 3 is being kind to Matfield.

    Any captain that repeatedly argues with the referee deserves to never pull on a jersey again, irrespective of how shocking he is reffing.

    This isn’t bloody roundball.

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.08.08 19:09:27 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • I’ve got the feeling that Paddy o’ Brian has shut both him and PDV up at least for the coming weekend.( Though I do think ole Paddy & Co need to look into their closet as well )

  • Comment 20, posted at 21.08.08 05:52:09 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Andries Bekker (7) – Had a good game did everything that could be expected of him, we need another big lock like Bakkies or even Danie R to combine with him, Matfield and Bekker aren’t a good combination, but Bekker could easily replace Matfield when Bakkies has recovered from his injury. Again to bad Pdv sees him as our Captain.

  • Comment 21, posted at 21.08.08 05:58:12 by Letgo Reply
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  • Just thought I’d quickly shut you lesser mortals up. Liam Del Carme writes for Supersport:

    “Thanks to Matfield, the Springboks did well in the lineout when they lost to the All Blacks last week. They also had New Zealand under pressure in the scrum.”


  • Comment 22, posted at 21.08.08 06:43:42 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Here’s a statement made by PDV which I, not having travelled abroad, do not understand completely. Would some knowledgeable soul care to eplain to me?

    “It (travelling) will always favour them,” De Villiers said on Wednesday. “When they come here, the time difference favours them. They gain a day but we lose a day when we fly there. ”

    Now I know that to fly into another timezone are supposed to affect your bodies’ clock, but is it really that significant? And does flying forwards or backwards into timezones play a different role? :???: :???: :???:

  • Comment 23, posted at 21.08.08 06:56:03 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • According to me the only thing traveling through time zones does is screw up your sleeping patterns, but most of these teams has methods to couter that by now.

    I know you loose a day when you go to Australia and New Zealand, but that only means you have to fly a day earlier to arrive the same day Aus or NZ would flying a day later.

  • Comment 24, posted at 21.08.08 07:01:56 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 24) : You lost me at “but that only means you have to fly a day earlier to arrive the same day”…..

  • Comment 25, posted at 21.08.08 07:07:00 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • If a SA team wants to arrive in Aus monday they will have to fly early Sunday/Saturday, but when a Aus team wants to arrive in SA on monday they can fly late Sunday/Monday. Not that it really makes a diffirence, because the time of the actual flight never changes and when we fly back we make up that time.

  • Comment 26, posted at 21.08.08 07:33:49 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 23) : Apparently it’s worse flying east through time zones than west. Not sure about the science behind it.

  • Comment 27, posted at 21.08.08 07:41:59 by McLovin Reply

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  • “Though the body clock has difficulty adjusting to time zone travel, it prefers flying in an east to west direction. This is because although we live on a 24-hour day, the natural rhythm of our clock is programmed to operate on a day that is longer than 24 hours. So our internal clock can naturally extend our day, but it finds it very difficult to reduce the hours in our day.

    When flying west you are adding hours and going in the natural direction of your internal clock. For example, flying westward from London to New York involves extending your day by five hours, while the eastward flight from New York to London results in shrinking your day by five hours.”

  • Comment 28, posted at 21.08.08 07:56:58 by Letgo Reply
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  • The increase in long distance travel means that more people are experiencing the condition known as Jet Lag. Jet Lag is caused by flying across time zones in a short space of time. This causes the body’s ‘internal clock’ to fall out of sync with the present location. It may take some time – sometimes several days – before the body is able to adjust.

    Jet Lag is now recognised as a Sleep Disorder and affects millions of travellers each year. It occurs when the body’s Biological Clock stays in its original time zone as it tries to adjust to the new location. Designed to sleep during darkness and stay awake during daylight the brain produces the hormone Melatonin that creates drowsiness. This is produced during the night and ‘switched off’ when daylight breaks. The body’s pattern of sleep and wake is controlled by this internal Body Clock.

    A new location will require adjusting to different daylight hours, and other timetable changes such as mealtimes and leisure or business schedules.

    Jet Lag (Desynchronosis) is different from other sleep disorders as it affects even those who normally sleep well. It is the result of crossing the earth’s meridians which define time zones. This means that the body has to acclimatise itself to the affect of new Circadian Rhythms which affect sleeping patterns.

  • Comment 29, posted at 21.08.08 07:57:50 by Letgo Reply
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  • Fly East for Bad Jet Lag
    Article #1261
    by Ned Rozell
    Alaska sports teams often have difficulty winning a game against their competitors when they travel to other states, thousands of miles and several time zones away. The home-field advantage has been an accepted–and proven–cliche since Napoleon tried to invade Russia in the winter of 1812.
    Alaska and other western teams might face more during away games than a hostile crowd, bad hotel food and an unfamiliarity with the quirks of a certain playing field, however. According to a study recently published in Nature, teams that travel east suffer more from jet lag than those traveling west.
    Three researchers from Massachusetts decided over lunch one day to inspect major league baseball records to see how jet lag affects teams. Lawrence Recht and William Schwartz, of the University of Massachusetts Medical School, and Robert Lew, of the Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, poured through three years of game results from the 19 major league teams on the east and west coasts to find a link between home-field advantage and directional jet leg.
    Almost everyone who has flown over a few time zones has felt some of the symptoms of jet lag: fatigue, an inability to fall asleep, body aches, digestive problems and disorientation. All these feelings occur because human body processes are tuned to cycles called circadian rhythms. Organisms, from one-celled creatures to humans, synchronize to the earth’s 24-hour rotation cycle. This cycle dictates when they sleep, wake, secrete hormones and perform other bodily functions.
    Humans develop circadian rhythms even if they’re isolated in a cave, according to Schwartz, a professor of neurology. Even without sunlight or clocks, people develop cycles that dictate body temperature changes, waking and sleeping. These cycles are slightly longer than 24 hours, Schwartz said.
    Light and dark periods, temperature, humidity and social interactions all fine tune the human body to a 24-hour day. When these variables are mixed up–such as when one flies from Anchorage to Miami–body processes don’t catch up immediately. It takes several days for most people to adjust to the environmental stimuli of a new place.
    Many studies show that heading east is worse than heading west. In tests of U.S. Army soldiers who recently transferred between the U.S. and Germany, it took three days for the soldiers who flew home to the U.S. to adjust to time and environmental changes. Those transferring eastward to Germany took eight days to adapt, according to the 1983 study in the journal Aviation, Space and Environmental Medicine.
    The baseball researchers found the same thing–crossing time zones from west to east was worse than traveling from east to west. Baseball teams playing at home won 56 percent of all games studied, but the researchers found quite a difference if the visiting team had just traveled eastward. The home team scored 1.24 more runs each game when the visiting team had just completed west-to-east coast travel. Home games played in the west showed no statistically significant difference in runs per game.
    Why is it harder to adapt to traveling east? Schwartz pointed to the fact that, devoid of stimulus, the body develops rhythms slightly longer than 24 hours. He suggests that it might be easier for the body to adapt to a longer day (such as when an airline passenger gains four hours on a trip from New York to Los Angeles), than to a shorter day when traveling eastward.
    “When you fly from east to west, you’re lengthening the day and going in the natural direction the (internal) clock wants to go,” Schwartz said. “When you’re flying from west to east, you’re compressing the day.”
    Maybe the next time an Alaska team needs to play a team from Michigan, the coach should schedule a west-bound flight via Tokyo and London, purely for scientific purposes of course. I volunteer to go along and record the results.

  • Comment 30, posted at 21.08.08 07:58:56 by Letgo Reply
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  • http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEED9163CF931A15756C0A96E948260&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

    This link, if it works, has a long explanation of how Jet Lag works.

  • Comment 31, posted at 21.08.08 08:02:15 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 31) : Gee thanks Letgo, remind me not to ask you for too many explanations. :razz:

    Now consider this: If you travel to an Eastern location, you can start out in an Eastern direction. Or you can start out in a Western direction. You should still get to your intended destination, be it at different times. So, in order for the Boks to turn their disadvantage into an advantage, they should merely get the Airline to take the other way around. It will probably result into a longer flight, but that would just give them more of an advantage! Heck, I could become famous. :cool:

  • Comment 32, posted at 21.08.08 09:17:05 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • from personal experience, the jet lag shags you MUCH worse when flying East

  • Comment 33, posted at 21.08.08 09:19:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : I have mentioned that I lack 100% in personal experience, so treat most questions I have about this as serious. Is it really as bad as to affect your play? Or is it possible that it become a handy mental excuse? Would it be much the same thing as when you wake me at 2am and tell me to go and play a rugby game?

  • Comment 34, posted at 21.08.08 09:27:52 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Yes Jet Lag, sucks, but most coaches and their coaching staff should be equipped and informed to limit the effects to 2 days at the most.

    @Silver Fox (Comment 34) : It basically has something to do with your sleeping routine. When you get to practice the first day in Aus, you feel like you should be sleeping and when you get to your hotel you can’t get yourself to sleep, but there are other factors 2.

    Jet Lag is a bitch, but I would have thought SA teams would have found ways to counter it by now. One good way would be to fly down as early as possible. In the super14 for example, you could take the risk to use a couple of your reserves for the game just prior to your travel game and send some of your best players and coaching staff over earlier, therefore they won’t be Jet Lagged by the time of the game.

    PDV could have gone over earlier, but he chose to use all his first team players for the wales test, you just have to think smart and stop whining, it makes SA teams look really stupid.

  • Comment 35, posted at 21.08.08 09:41:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 34) : it’s not as cut and dried as that… just a case of your whole clock being completely stuffed up – so you feel tired at strange times of the day. I’ve had times, coming back from the States, when I was literally so shattered that I could hardly move – comes on suddenly in the middle of the day.

  • Comment 36, posted at 21.08.08 09:49:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 35) : @robdylan (Comment 36) : Thanks guys, I understand it better now. I am inclined to agree with Letgo that we should just find a way to deal with that problem. This is not aimed at PDV, for he is but one in a long line that had to cope with it. :grin:

  • Comment 37, posted at 21.08.08 09:57:45 by Silver Fox Reply

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