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Bok coach getting Gatvol


Written by Clayton Saville (Clayton(PJLD))

Posted in :In the news, Springboks, Tri Nations on 21 Aug 2008 at 13:28

As the pressure mounts on Springbok coach Peter de Villiers, after three defeats in four outings in the Tri-Nations, he has issued a warning to his experienced players.

“The guys who have played well so far are mainly the younger players and not the old hands,” De Villiers told a Cape Town radio station earlier this week.

“I’m trying to get into the heads of the more experienced players. I’m going to make it clear that if I can’t win matches with the experienced players in the team, I’d rather lose with inexperienced guys.

“If their sell-by dates have come and gone I’ll have to act accordingly. We’ve had hard words and now we need to see if we can turn it around.”

De Villiers did not name the “experienced” players who are in the firing line, but it’s obvious that fullback Percy Montgomery might be one player who will not feature in the Boks after the Tri-Nations.

There was a great deal of sentiment about his selection for his 100th Test match, played against the All Blacks, at Newlands last week.

Montgomery failed to make an impression and has been dropped for this Saturday’s clash against Australia in Durban. He has been replaced by Conrad Jantjes.

Another player who could be under scrutiny is flyhalf Butch James, who has been well below his best this season. He is clearly fatigued, physically and mentally, but remains South Africa’s best flyhalf.

Individually performances have not been calamitous, but the team seems to be struggling to come to grips with De Villiers’s coaching philosophy. The coach is coming under increasing pressure because of poor results and it appears he is prepared to lay a part of the blame on the players.

Whatever he might think about the attitudes of senior players, De Villiers would be better served if he didn’t publicly attack them. It’s a sure way of losing the dressing room, and more games.

“We can turn it around, but what concerns me is that the guys are not able to keep their performances at a high level,” De Villiers said. “I’m asking myself, ‘How do they keep the passion of playing for their country?’”

If the players are losing their passion for playing for the Boks, then De Villiers has a massive problem on his hands.

Original article By Craig Ray in www.thetimes.co.za



32 Comments

  • Hier kom ‘ n ding :shock:

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.08.08 13:30:54 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • can we please add some names?

    Victor Matfield
    Juan Smith

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.08.08 13:37:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : MUST BE

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.08.08 13:40:26 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • When’s he announcing the team for Sat?

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.08.08 13:51:24 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 4) : Tuesday…

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.08.08 13:56:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : :oops: It’s all coming back to me now…

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.08.08 14:02:34 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 6) : been a long week, has it?

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.08.08 14:09:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • :lol:

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.08.08 14:10:02 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • got to find a way to get my comment count past oubaas’s

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.08.08 14:20:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • Post all day every day and maaybe

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.08.08 14:25:48 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • @PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 10) : just maybe ;)

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.08.08 14:40:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • What about the Aus team?

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.08.08 14:43:57 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 12) : ah – good point. I think it’s just been named

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.08.08 14:50:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Maybe Meneer Snor has a point. Two years a Bok team rolled over to take 49 – 0 in Australia. Hey some of those players are even the same individuals –
    Matfield, Juanne Smith, Spies, Habana, Monty – thats a third of the starting team. Januarie and Fourie Du P swopped rolls in that test ie. Januarie started the 49 – 0 and Fourie was on the bench.

    Is this a coach thing or a player thing ?

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.08.08 15:25:50 by yossarian Reply

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  • @yossarian (Comment 14) : Good question

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.08.08 15:29:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @yossarian (Comment 14) : I’d say player. Not to relieve the coach from any responsibilities that are his, but I think that we in SA might be too lenient on our players.

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.08.08 15:30:59 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 16) : With so many of the assholes on other sites determined to crucify the coach, I’m going to continue backing him out of sheer bloody-mindedness, if nothing else

  • Comment 17, posted at 21.08.08 15:39:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : Sorry, I missed out on the other side, but take it as not worthwhile to see? And of course you have to be talking your favourite? :smile:

  • Comment 18, posted at 21.08.08 15:51:16 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • IMO I beleive Coach is still learning his job, which is not to say he should not get support now – he should get a chance to grow into the role.

    Jake did get a chance. Ok he won his first tri nations but he made numerous blunders in 2005 and 2006. He also grew as a coach and was finally able to deliver a World Cup and a No. 1 ranking.

    As far as the players go, as I said in a previous post, some of them never woke up after the WC. They need a kick in the pants. If that doesn’t get through then Coach is quite right, they need to be shown the door.

    Playing for your country is not a right, even if you do have a WC medal and the only win in 100 years in Dunedin. It is a priviledge that you earn every single match day.

  • Comment 19, posted at 21.08.08 15:53:26 by yossarian Reply

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  • @yossarian (Comment 19) : I’d like to print that and stick it up in their change room. Well said, Yoss

  • Comment 20, posted at 21.08.08 16:09:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) :

    arrange more business trips or vacations for me :wink:

  • Comment 21, posted at 21.08.08 17:56:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • PdV is getting concerned for no reason.

    All he needs is to find someone who is capable of leading the boks in the absence of their Captain.

  • Comment 22, posted at 21.08.08 17:57:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • so simple, so true

  • Comment 23, posted at 21.08.08 17:58:25 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 22) : Hi KSA. People are slowly getting more optimistic, though I still get the sneaky feeling that there are some secret school holidays going on, on account of it being quiet on Sharksworld. :???:

  • Comment 24, posted at 21.08.08 18:12:11 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 24) :

    I realised something very early on in the days after Sharksworld was created.

    We have a lot more traffic during provincial matches than Internationals. Come next week when the Sharks play there will be a surge in activity as well as another surge the week after when ALL the teams are up and about.

  • Comment 25, posted at 21.08.08 18:17:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 25) : You be right off course. People can talk ( or mope ) about the Boks for only so long.

  • Comment 26, posted at 21.08.08 18:21:51 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 26) :

    Banter between CC/S14 unions also accounts for a lot of traffic. Either way we are still going great guns with the amount of people reading us.

    http://www.amatomu.com/cat.php?cat=6 (Look who is at Number 5) :cool:

  • Comment 27, posted at 21.08.08 18:25:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) : Hey, great that!! And off course that will change for the better still. I have only recently accessed some of those sites, like Ou Grote. I am cyber travelling, absorbing…..

  • Comment 28, posted at 21.08.08 18:31:40 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 28) : still trying to work out who runs that site

  • Comment 29, posted at 21.08.08 18:41:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : Can you not just ask?

  • Comment 30, posted at 21.08.08 18:43:50 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 30) : I could. I suspect the answer is “the ghost of Zandberg Jansen”

  • Comment 31, posted at 21.08.08 18:47:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) : One up to date ghost that…

  • Comment 32, posted at 21.08.08 18:55:21 by Silver Fox Reply

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