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Sharks snap up minnow pair – Confirmed


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 1 Sep 2008 at 11:49
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The Sharks look to have bolstered their ranks with the acquisition of two promising players from smaller unions. Note that this is all subject to confirmation, but it appears as though Len Olivier and Lionel Cornelius will both play for the Sharks in 2009.

Rumours that Valke pivot Olivier may be on his way to Durban surfaced a few weeks ago, when the de facto Valke website, SupaRugby, mentioned that the former Affies boy was weighing up offers from both the Sharks and French outfit Aurilliac. A snippet in Sunday’s Rapport would seem to indicate that the Sharks have won the race. I’ve sent messages to both Len himself and the journalist who wrote the story, so we’ll definitely update you if we get confirmation of this story.

The 22-year-old Olivier has shone playing at flyhalf for the unfancied East Rand side this year and appears to have a good mix of kicking and running skills, just what one needs in a modern pivot.

Boland centre-cum-flyhalf Lionel Cornelius is another 22-year-old who has shone despite playing for an outclassed team for much of the season. Cornelius looked particularly good when Boland ran the Sharks close at Kings Park earlier this season and combines incisive running with an accurate boot. He reminds me of a young Adi Jacobs and we can only hope that he continues to develop in a similar vein.

The Cornelius signing was also mentioned as an aside in a Rapport article, so we will provide confirmation as soon as we can.

Update: I’ve confirmed both of these rumours and am convinced they’re legit. Thanks to Rapport for their co-operation in this regard. 



78 Comments

  • 22. A great age. :cool:

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.09.08 11:54:34 by McLovin Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 1) : I vaguely remember it ;)

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.09.08 11:56:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 1) :

    i cannot wait till MY 22nd birthday!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.09.08 11:57:58 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : I struggle to remember yesterday, let alone when I was 22. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.09.08 11:59:10 by McLovin Reply

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  • @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 3) : Really? You don’t look a day older than 20. :wink:

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.09.08 11:59:53 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 5) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.09.08 12:01:08 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 1) : Yes it is … I support the acquisition of these players.
    They are young…yet they will come with reasonable experience.

    @robdylan (Comment 2) : :lol:

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.09.08 12:02:21 by blackshark Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 5) : interesting picture. What is it?

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.09.08 12:02:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • Len Olivier was good for the Valke and i enjoyed his play, but he was their 2nd choice not their 1st choice.

    Have the Sharks looked at True Blue Smit who is their first choice.

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.09.08 12:02:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : :shock: Don’t stare at it…it will hypnotize you into a WP supporter.

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.09.08 12:03:59 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 7) : shit dude… I am almost more excited about Cornelius than I am about Olivier. Did you see him play in Durban? Really exciting guy… will be dynamite in a stronger team

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.09.08 12:04:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) :

    I think he is bending over… :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.09.08 12:09:44 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 9) : dude… with a name like that, he’ll never fit in in Durbs

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.09.08 12:09:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 12) : that’s what I thought too! ;)

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.09.08 12:11:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : :lol: Mos’ def’…

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.09.08 12:11:41 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) :

    Too Truee (blue), too true… :wink:

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.09.08 12:12:36 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 10) : @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 12) : @robdylan (Comment 14) : Sharksworld comedy club? :roll:

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.09.08 12:14:14 by McLovin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) :

    Okay how about Riaan Smit then? We can call him Ryan in Durban so that he fits in :wink:

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.09.08 12:16:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 10) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.09.08 12:17:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Not to sound negative, I mean this is the age of pro rugby.

    But why no rumblings from the Sharks academy and talent coming through like 2 years ago?

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.09.08 12:21:11 by MorneN Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 18) : Ryan Smith?

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.09.08 12:25:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 18) : Hey Ryan Brrru… sound better… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.09.08 12:25:29 by blackshark Reply

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  • Ok – now where can i find a player profile on Cornelius…i need to study it and see if he will play ‘entertaining” rugby…for the girls sake, you know… :wink: :twisted:

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.09.08 12:26:43 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 20) : I’m going to let you rethink that statement for just a minute ;)

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.09.08 12:27:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 23) : you want a picture of him, in other words ;)

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.09.08 12:28:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) :

    Coming through the ranks and keeping them?

  • Comment 26, posted at 01.09.08 12:28:39 by MorneN Reply
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  • we can even make a few pounds and make it Ronaldo Smith… Maybe Real will try and buy him, and we make a killing? not even mentioning the revenue out of sharks shirts…?

    i`m taking it too far, am i?

  • Comment 27, posted at 01.09.08 12:30:14 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) :

    eksakitily :cool:

  • Comment 28, posted at 01.09.08 12:31:58 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 20) : It’s not easy to raise a full team ( at the same time)…make some…buy some… :wink:

    @VanWilder (Comment 27) : Nothing’s too far for VanWilder…

  • Comment 29, posted at 01.09.08 12:33:22 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) :

    Riaan Swanepoel seems to fit in okay… :wink:

  • Comment 30, posted at 01.09.08 12:35:02 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 28) : How did they even think of recruiting a player without checking his credentials with I’ce ?

  • Comment 31, posted at 01.09.08 12:37:02 by blackshark Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 26) : if anything, our problem was that we had too much young talent all coming through at once, hence losing Brad.

  • Comment 32, posted at 01.09.08 12:38:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 30) : ah – ok. So you’re saying Riaan Smit could be the bastard lovechild of John Smit and Riaan Swanepoel? ;)

  • Comment 33, posted at 01.09.08 12:43:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 31) :

    THAT is the REAL question, BS!! :evil:

    @robdylan (Comment 33) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 01.09.08 12:45:00 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • “He reminds me of a young Adi Jacobs and we can only hope that he continues to develop in a similar vein.”

    Jip, the white scrum cap to match… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 01.09.08 12:49:31 by Charlie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : Agree…Actually had the same discussion yesterday…Oe Jinne.. Great minds think alike… :razz:

  • Comment 36, posted at 01.09.08 12:50:50 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 36) : so do you know anything more about it than what was written in Rapport yesterday?

  • Comment 37, posted at 01.09.08 12:53:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 35) :

    Dont keep me in suspense. man Charlie!! Send the pic!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 01.09.08 12:54:36 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • I do not like this buying stuff. :mad:

    But since it is common practice now, at least these guys under discussion are sensible buys. :smile:

  • Comment 39, posted at 01.09.08 12:58:08 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : Nope, nothing yet… :(

  • Comment 40, posted at 01.09.08 13:13:43 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 39) : aaag Cute!!

  • Comment 41, posted at 01.09.08 13:37:04 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Jeez seems boland are losing every1-first dries van schalkwyk to the bulls then jean botha and wp nel to the cheetahs nw this

  • Comment 42, posted at 01.09.08 17:13:09 by Bok-Clyde-Kiwi Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 40) : ask and you shall receive. It’s true ;)

  • Comment 43, posted at 01.09.08 17:16:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Bok-Clyde-Kiwi (Comment 42) : they are bankrupt and have no sponsor… hardly surprising.

    So they’ve lost both props to Free State? Interesting.. I thought the tinears grew their own props…

  • Comment 44, posted at 01.09.08 17:17:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) :

    No that’s just what they say when we steal their players :wink:

  • Comment 45, posted at 01.09.08 18:32:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 45) : I see they are now getting excited about a youngster called Shrek. Why don’t some of these magical props rather go play for Province?

  • Comment 46, posted at 01.09.08 18:36:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 46) :

    I saw that, also noticed that they say, they should see any possible chance of winning the CC as a bonus and concentrate on the S14. :lol:

    Given up so soon? We haven’t even got the Boks back in the other teams yet. :wink:

  • Comment 47, posted at 01.09.08 18:45:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Plumtree himself has confirmed the Len Olivier signing.

  • Comment 48, posted at 01.09.08 18:59:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • Rugby 365 have done some of their own enquiries on the issue.

    Desperate Province lean on Boks
    Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:47

    Western Province coach Allister Coetzee has wasted no time in leaning on his returning Springboks to steady the team’s ship in the stormy Cape Town waters.

    The Province coach, desperate to get his side back into the Currie Cup play-off race, said that they have already received the green light to include “all” of their fit Springboks in the team for the Round 10 showdown with the Free State Cheetahs in Bloemfontein on Saturday.

    The general consensus on Monday was that SARU and the Springbok management would be meeting with the provincial unions to identify which Springbok players that would be rested, and which ones would be released for Currie Cup duty with their provinces.

    The decision on which players will be rested is expected on Wednesday.

    Many of the national players will be in desperate need of rest, considering that a few Springboks such as Province centre Jean de Villiers and Cheetahs flank Juan Smith, played in everyone of the ten Test matches that South Africa have played thus far in 2008. Prior to the international season, the Bok players would also have been exposed to a gruelling stint in the Super 14, or in some cases with European-based clubs.

    But WP media spokesman Gavin Lewis told rugby365.com that Province coach Allister Coetzee was “definitely looking at utilising the Springbok players on Saturday.”

    WP are currently desperate for log points in the Currie Cup, languishing in fifth position on the table. The union are also in real danger of missing out of the semifinals, and need to claw back a massive deficit to reach the fourth spot, which is currently occupied by the Lions, nine points ahead of WP.

    In that context, it is clear to see why Province are so keen to field their Springboks as soon as possible.

    Lewis said that as far as he was aware, the Springbok players have been released by the Springboks after completion of their mid-year international duties, and were once again under WP’s jurisdiction.

    “Allister will be looking to utilise the bulk of the returning Springboks for the upcoming matches, starting on Saturday against the Cheetahs,” said Lewis.

    “All the Springbok players are now back in their provincial folds.

    “The Western Province medical team will first examine each one of our returning Bok players and make an assessment on each player in terms of fitness and conditioning.

    “The coach will then take advice from our medical guys, and will be making his selections accordingly, taking each case into consideration,” Lewis stated.

    WP will travel to Bloemfontein to face defending Currie Cup champions the Free State Cheetahs at Vodacom Park on Saturday in what will be a must-win match for the coastal team.

    In addition to the Springboks, flyhalf Peter Grant and wing Sireli Naqelevuki are also available for selection this week.

    Western Province will announce their team on Wednesday.

    By Phil Coetzer

  • Comment 49, posted at 01.09.08 19:00:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) :

    excellent.

    Is he still keeping mum about Grant? :wink:

  • Comment 50, posted at 01.09.08 19:01:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 49) :

    From the 365 article it seems to me as if (reading between the lines) WP have jumped the gun a bit with saying they have all their boks back.

  • Comment 51, posted at 01.09.08 19:05:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Apparently toulon are chasing ruan pienaar,his on top of their owners wishlist

  • Comment 52, posted at 01.09.08 22:07:35 by Bok-Clyde-Kiwi Reply

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  • @Bok-Clyde-Kiwi (Comment 52) : Ruan Pienaar and England fly-half Jonny Wilkinson have both been linked to a move big-spending French club Toulon.

  • Comment 53, posted at 01.09.08 22:15:33 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 53) : oh?

  • Comment 54, posted at 01.09.08 22:57:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • they want him as a flyhalf! WTF?

  • Comment 55, posted at 01.09.08 22:59:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • The Mercury this morning stated that all the Boks are back in training with them but that Bismarck and Beast may probably sit the Bulls match out! I hope not, we have to beat the Bulls :twisted:

  • Comment 56, posted at 02.09.08 09:43:19 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Bok-Clyde-Kiwi (Comment 52) :

    Toulon chases everything that moves…they made offers to 3 of our players AND the coach…

  • Comment 57, posted at 02.09.08 12:51:04 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 57) : Watched them against Claremont.So very [email protected]!

  • Comment 58, posted at 02.09.08 12:54:15 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 57) : yeah – I think again, this all needs to be taken with a huge dose of salt.

    Then again, I always believe that where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Lots of rumours about Ruan leaving…

  • Comment 59, posted at 02.09.08 12:57:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 58) : you mean Clermont? Claremont is in Cape Town, last time I checked ;)

  • Comment 60, posted at 02.09.08 12:58:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) :

    They were looking for a Lock, Flyhalf and Centre from us.

  • Comment 61, posted at 02.09.08 13:00:47 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 60) : Shplah!

  • Comment 62, posted at 02.09.08 13:05:59 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 61) : Hey Walter! Are those guys dof? You don’t have a flyhalf yourselves. :lol:

    Except Rose doing quite well. :smile:

  • Comment 63, posted at 02.09.08 13:06:17 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 61) : A Flyhalf :?: :!: :?: :!:

  • Comment 64, posted at 02.09.08 13:06:32 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • They were chasing the injured flyhalf..

  • Comment 65, posted at 02.09.08 13:08:48 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 64) : Lions have the CC’s top points scorer playing at flyhalf for them… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 66, posted at 02.09.08 13:10:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 65) : oh, that oke. You should cut your losses and let them have him.

  • Comment 67, posted at 02.09.08 13:11:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 56) : Dudette, have mercy, we only want to beat them, not give the guys an inferiority complex!! :grin:

  • Comment 68, posted at 02.09.08 13:11:25 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 67) :

    I was sort of thinking the exact same thing…

  • Comment 69, posted at 02.09.08 13:13:14 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • I’m thinking we should be more lenient on having our players leave for foreign soil. How else would the buggers keep up to standard? Take the English cricket team for instance…. :twisted: :twisted:

  • Comment 70, posted at 02.09.08 13:16:23 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 69) : Tell you what Walter, if all the fly halves heading this way are for real, and Rob says yes they are, you should ask your union to very nicely approach the Sharks… :grin:

  • Comment 71, posted at 02.09.08 13:19:53 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 71) :

    I think we want Steyn…can the Sharks spare him?

  • Comment 72, posted at 02.09.08 13:22:35 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 72) : Now don’t be ridicilous now!! :razz:

  • Comment 73, posted at 02.09.08 13:26:20 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 72) : no! ;)

    But thanks for asking.

  • Comment 74, posted at 02.09.08 13:26:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • But you don’t even use him at 10? So surely he is not needed there?

  • Comment 75, posted at 02.09.08 13:33:28 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 75) : he has apparently had yet another change of heart and wants to play 12. So I think once Brad goes, Frans can start at 12 for the Sharks and we can groom him for flyhalf.

  • Comment 76, posted at 02.09.08 13:40:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 76) :

    Thanks, do a good job and we’ll take him at the end of the 2009 season when his contract runs out with the Sharks!

  • Comment 77, posted at 02.09.08 13:42:18 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 77) : LOL… everyone’s a comedian!

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