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Sharks may not be at full strength


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 2 Sep 2008 at 10:20
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Reading between the lines, it seem the decision about which Springboks to play in this weekend’s Currie Cup will be entirely at the discretion of each Union’s coaching teams. Presumably, they will consult with the players in question to determine which, if any, need an extra week or two’s rest.

Indications coming from the Sharks camp are that Beast Mtawarira, Adi Jacobs and Bismarck du Plessis are unlikely to see action against the Bulls this weekend, with the longer-term goal of their continued availability towards the business end of the competition taking precedence over short-term needs. Certainly, the Sharks are not short of options in midfield or in the front row, so there should not be a noticeable weakening of the side as a result. Even Skipper Badenhorst has really raised him game in recent weeks and always seems to keep a little something extra for games against his former schoolmates, although it would be very good to have a player of Bismarck’s calibre available.

Wing JP Pietersen is still not available, having injured his hamstring against Australia two weeks, while number 8 Ryan Kankowski is still not 100% after injuring his collar bone against the Lions. The latter is rated as a 50-50 prospect for the Bulls match.

Early indications are that Jannie du Plessis and Johann Muller will slot straight back into the tight five, with the same loose-forward mix as the one that has been playing so well of late. Ruan Pienaar is likely to take over from Charl McLeod at at scrumhalf, with Frans Steyn slotting in at outside centre in place of Riaan Swanepoel. Odwa Ndungane will occupy his regular number 14 jersey, with either Chris Jordaan or Waylon Murray making way.

Possible Sharks team:

15 Terblanche, 14 Ndungane, 13 Steyn, 12 Barritt, 11 Murray/Jordaan, 10 Michalak, 9 Pienaar, 8 Daniel/Kankowski, 7 Deysel, 6 Botes, 5 Muller (capt), 4 van den Berg, 3 du Plessis, 2 Badenhorst, 1 Carstens



62 Comments

  • I still think we’ll take them, even without Bis, Beast and Adi.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.09.08 10:40:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : I think you is right.

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.09.08 10:44:34 by McLovin Reply

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  • ‘JP Pietersen is still not available, having insured (?) his hamstring against Australia’

    Made me larf. :lol: Oh the simple things in life. :roll:

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.09.08 10:45:50 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 3) : oops. That’ll teach me to try write article when I’m on a conf call!

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.09.08 10:49:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • call me bullish, but if Fransie decides to bring his A-game, he and Brad are going to make mincemeat of the Bulls midfield.

    Another aspect that I like is the fact that the Bulls will probably pick Wannenburg and Wikus at flank. That’s us winning the pace contest in the loose forwards, hands down.

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.09.08 10:54:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Ok, since you ask so nicely, I’m calling you ‘bullish’.
    :twisted:

    Frankly, I struggle to find one area where we should not annihilate them. :smile:

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.09.08 10:58:53 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Talking about the midfield, I must admit that the bit I have seen of Meisiekind this Currie Cup has been pretty impressive, way up from what he was producing last year.

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.09.08 10:59:39 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : I don’t like talking on the phone let alone a conf call. More than two people on the phone confuses me. :roll:

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.09.08 11:00:32 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 7) : yeah – he is in good form.

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.09.08 11:21:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • Yesterday’s Possible team:
    15 Terblanche, 14 Ndungane, 13 Jacobs, 12 Barritt, 11 Murray, 10 Steyn, 9 Pienaar, 8 Daniel, 7 Deysel, 6 Botes, 5 Muller (capt), 4 van den Berg, 3 J du Plessis, 2 B du Plessis, 1 Mtawarira
    16 Burden, 17 Carstens, 18 Sykes, 19 Ndlovu, 20 Kockott, 21 Michalak, 22 Jordaan

    Today’s possible team:
    15 Terblanche, 14 Ndungane, 13 Steyn, 12 Barritt, 11 Murray/Jordaan, 10 Michalak, 9 Pienaar, 8 Daniel/Kankowski, 7 Deysel, 6 Botes, 5 Muller (capt), 4 van den Berg, 3 du Plessis, 2 Badenhorst, 1 Carstens

    Both by Rob.

    Dude you may have to start calling them “depending on my mood” teams :razz:

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.09.08 11:43:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • there is also the little story of smitty

    2 weeks ago plumtree said he would be back for bulls game

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.09.08 11:49:03 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : yesterday I thought all the Boks would play… today I know that some of them won’t… it’s called discovering new info, oubaas ;)

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.09.08 11:49:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 11) : ah – almost forgot about him! Gosh, imagine we have him fit… Wouldn’t bet on it, though… last I heard, he needed another two weeks.

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.09.08 11:50:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : someone’s clearly grouchy… missing your mid-morning snack, oubaas? ;)

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.09.08 11:52:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) :

    Hehehhehehehe

    YES :evil:

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.09.08 11:54:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 11) :

    No I think you have that wrong.

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.09.08 11:54:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 16) :

    Yip Found it.

    http://www.sharksrugby.co.za/default.asp?id=267319&des=article

    published tuesday last week,

    from the 2nd last paragraph.
    He added that John Smit is cycling and swimming at the moment, “he’s still around three weeks off and Ryan Kankowski will hopefully be available next week

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.09.08 11:57:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 15) : You can’t eat at work? :shock: I would die.

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.09.08 12:06:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 15) : you’re not even allowed water, are you?

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.09.08 12:14:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 18) :

    NO

    @robdylan (Comment 19) :
    NO

    But “I” did go home for lunch today :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.09.08 12:17:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Tahu considers ‘suicide’ after nightmare
    Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:20

    Tough times: Timana Tahu had a nightmare on the field

    Australia’s Rugby League convert Timana Tahu said he was “looking for a rope” to hang himself, after his nightmare run-on debut for the Wallabies in their record 8-53 Tri-Nations hammering at the hands of the Springboks at the weekend.

    Tahu, who joined the Waratahs this year after eight years and 159 games in Rugby League for Parramatta, Newcastle and Australia’s Kangaroos national team, was written up as the new big thing in Rugby Union Down Under ahead of his first start for the Wallabies.

    However, Tahu – who took over from the injured Berrick Barnes at inside centre, having played just 23 minutes of Test rugby as a replacement before Saturday – admitted he was “shattered” by his nightmare performance in Johannesburg.

    “I’ve had a few [heavy defeats] in my career and it’s just not the best thing in my debut in the starting side…you get given a chance to prove yourself and it’s just shattering,” Tahu told AAP.

    “I was looking for a rope to hang myself.

    “South Africa just played out of their skin.

    “The first five minutes everything was going well but after that it just felt like we were running backwards all the time.

    “It was probably one of those games where you just want to wake up and just think this is a bad dream.”

    If the nightmare wasn’t bad enough, Tahu also had to swallow the Boks’ celebrations.

    “South Africans sure know how to rub it in and I think that’s what made it feel worse,” he told AAP.

    “The crowd and listening to them after the game, you can hear people cheering and carrying on and it makes you angry, it makes you really angry, it makes you want to play them again next week or tomorrow and try and see if you can square things up.”

    Australia arrived in Johannesburg confident they were in with a real chance of ending their awful run on the Highveld after a breakthrough win in Durban and with the Springboks seemingly in disarray under eccentric new coach Peter de Villiers.

    Tahu may have arrived at Ellis Park without any “baggage”, but there’s no doubt he will have left with some.

    “It’s really hard to get into the stadium, the traffic, the crowd,” he said.

    “It takes you about half an hour, 40 minutes squeezing through the traffic and then you’re getting into the stadium and there’s a rowdy crowd. But it was a good experience

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.09.08 12:18:02 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) :

    NUFFINK is allowed to pass your lips except this little stick that they use to clean there teeth.

    They have these little sticks that are very fibrous and they chew / clean there teeth with those all do.

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.09.08 12:19:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 22) : How many sticks can you chew a day?

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.09.08 12:24:32 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 23) :

    :mrgreen:

    No they don’t get chewed. They just use the tip as a brush and rub it up and down their teeth.

    But it helps the guys who smoke more than the guys who don’t. more of a case of something to have in your mouth.

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.09.08 12:31:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Go Here to have a look at them

    click on “Sewak-Al-Muslim” for a larger pic

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.09.08 12:34:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 25) : insightful comment that… ;)

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.09.08 12:36:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) :

    did you post that comment before i added the detail :lol:

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.09.08 12:40:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 25) : Are they flavoured? Doesn’t look like it from the pic.

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.09.08 12:55:45 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) : I did… do you always post comments that way? :shock:

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.09.08 13:05:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) :

    Only when i have to go in and add a MOEEEEEEEERSE long link. Rather post a blank comment than stuff the lite up with a loooooooooong comment. :wink:

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.09.08 13:11:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 28) :

    No just a stick with the bark cut off. Nonoe of these guy have been able to give me the english word for the type of tree either.

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.09.08 13:12:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Okay Home time. :mrgreen:

    Byeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.09.08 13:12:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • After the Boland game, I was left thinking, Is Kaplan biased when it comes to the Sharks. Kaplan is definately not the referee he was two years ago. His handling of the new laws especially hasn’t been great and in the three Sharks games I have watched him ref this year, I have noticed he has given the opposition players far more leeway at the breakdown than is given to the Sharks players. For example the one area he turns a blind eye to when it comes opposition players is holding on to the ball. In one instance a Boland player dived onto the ball in the open and lay on top of the ball until enough of his players arrived. A few minutes later a Shark player had his hand on the ball and he was penalised. This is only one instance. Other areas I noticed opposition get away is players coming through the gate. Opposition players seem to get a much larger gate to go through. Thankfully the Sharks have been too good for his bias to effect them, what worries me though is we might get him in the semis and he will cost us a final spot.

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.09.08 08:18:01 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 33) :

    No I think (and mean this in the best possible way) that it was you who was a bit biased in your viewing of the match.

    I watched the game and don’t think he was biased against us in anyway. I am not alone in this opinion as more than one person has voiced their opinion to me that they hope Kaplan does our match this weekend.

    As it turns out we have Mark Lawrence. I would have been more than happy with either of these two.

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.09.08 08:45:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • i am pleased mark is blowing the game. i feel mark lawrence joubert and jonker are far fairer than kaplan. i feel they have also grasped the new laws better.

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.09.08 09:14:40 by try time Reply

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  • but in saying what i said above, kaplan isn’t a bryce lawrence who i felt helped australia to lose that game. it doesn’t look good when bryce seems to target the team that is the bigger threat to new zealand teams. sharks when crusaders had lost there first s14 game of the season and the sharks were still unbeaten. boks when they had just beaten kiwis and looked as if the tri nations trophy was theirs. australia when a victory against sa would put them ahead on the tri nations log. fortunately for bryce though the australians game was worse than his reffing.

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.09.08 09:22:37 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 33) :
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    Interesting. I remember at the beginning of the CC that the first few game were a shambles and were pretty dier fare to watch, and then Kaplan was awarded a Sharks game in Durban (cant remember against who) but suffice to say it was the best Currie Cup game till that stage and he was the one ref that seemed to have the new rules under control. Things have improved alot since then.

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.09.08 09:41:26 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 36) : I guess it must be really hard for you to give credit where credit is due? :roll:

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.09.08 09:44:46 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 37) : agree. Kappers delivered a masterclass in how to blow the new laws, after the utter dog’s breakfast delivered by Fortuin the week before.

    Try time is just stirring, as usual.

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.09.08 09:51:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) : hang on i am comparing kaplan to proper refs. fontein is at least consistent. he blows badly for both teams. kaplan has a tendency to nail the sharks more than the opposition. there was also that try he disallowed, but should have rather checked if it had been a forward pass with tmo rather than going on gut. he was wrong. in the lions game he allowed the lions forwards to constantly come in from the side. he also allows players far too much time to hold onto the ball.

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.09.08 10:59:24 by try time Reply

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  • when it comes to referees i say be consistent. the laws are a cock up and can be interpreted anyway the ref wants. but as long as he is equal in his judgements i have no qualms.

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.09.08 11:03:01 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 40) :

    Absolute bollocks – that is a typical one-eyed fan’s perspective.

    Personally I think Kaplan is justified as our top ref.

    And he has absolutely NO reason to be biased against the Sharks, given he is a Durban boy – born & raised – from a family of Sharks supporters.
    If anything, he has been a tad lenient towards us over the years…

    As for Bryce Spice, I am starting to believe that his resentment of the Sharks comes from a spurned advance….

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.09.08 11:22:14 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 42) : may I see your sick-note, please?

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.09.08 11:29:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) :
    Do they give those on release from Guantanamo bay.

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.09.08 11:34:05 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) :

    cough, splutter… Good enuff, guv’nor?

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.09.08 11:39:20 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 45) : I guess. So where’ve ya bin?

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.09.08 11:55:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 45) : where on earth did you get that pic?

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.09.08 11:57:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 46) :

    been working hard & all, you know… Some of us have to prop up the UK economy…

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.09.08 12:04:05 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 42) : maybe thats why he over refs the sharks as he doesn’t want to be seen favouring his home team. maybe he just over does it.

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.09.08 12:05:20 by try time Reply

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  • but then we should allowed to have joubert reffing our games.

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.09.08 12:06:26 by try time Reply

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  • September 3rd, 2008
    Islander Annihilation…

    Mils Muliaina starred with a hat-trick as New Zealand racked up a 101-14 victory over Samoa in New Plymouth.

    It was one-sided stuff from start to finish with a second-rate Samoa outfit completely outclassed. The islanders attempted to spoil and slow All Blacks ball, but for the most part the hosts were untouchable.

    A loose encounter was always going to favour the Samoans, and the All Blacks did well to keep it tight initially. They utilised the drive to good effect and the New Zealand scrum caused all sorts of problems for the visitors.

    The first four tries were scored in the opening 16 minutes, but the All Blacks were guilty of releasing the pressure thereafter. Samoa flyhalf Uale Mai sailed over for a soft try and the visitors were starting to come into their own at the breakdown due to many New Zealand forwards preferring to hang out wide.

    But Samoa’s constant attempts to spoil finally led to the sin-binning of scrumhalf Notise Tauafao right before half-time. The 14-man Samoans conceded 26 points in the halfback’s absence.

    With a 47-7 lead at the break, Graham Henry opted to give a few of his reserves a run in the second half. The game opened up and the All Blacks’ superior fitness levels began to tell as the ran in a further eight tries. The time spent by Samoa on defence exacerbated the situation in the second period where fresh All Blacks legs effectively ran them ragged.

    Anthony Tuitavake left the field before half-time after a blow to the cheek, but providing there are no serious injuries, Henry will feel this match served its purpose. It was a good opportunity for the All Blacks to get a run ahead of next week’s Tri-Nations decider in Brisbane.

    But whether this fixture deserved Test status is certainly a point of contention. The Samoans were without many first-choice players and failed to test the All Blacks in any department of the game. It was one-way traffic from the kickoff, and this type of hit out should never be called a Test match.

    New Zealand – Tries: Adam Thomson, Mils Muliaina (3), Conrad Smith (2), Jimmy Cowan, Richard Kahui (2), Stephen Donald, Ali Williams, Jerome Kaino, Penalty try, Isaia Toeava, Piri Weepu. Conversions: Dan Carter (6), Donald (7).
    Samoa – Tries: Uale Mai, Alafoti Faosiliva. Conversions: Mai, Roger Warren.

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.09.08 12:08:17 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 51) :this type of hit out should never be called a Test match.

    If our last game against Australia was a test then… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.09.08 12:13:49 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 48) : you fixed up all that sub-prime shit you okes caused? :)

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.09.08 12:17:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 50) :

    Yeah, I don’t understand that completely. I think it depends on where the ref is registered. Kaplan is registered in Gauteng, as he’s now based there. So I don’t think he can’t ref Lions games. But I remember yonks back, when Kaplan first appeared on the scene – he was registered in Natal, & couldn’t ref Natal games.

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.09.08 12:23:41 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • Will the Sharks beat the Bulls?
    Of course! Five pointer coming! – 26.32%
    I think we’ll squeak it – 26.32%
    They’ll be too strong – 42.11%
    Too close to call – 5.26%
    Total Votes: 38

    I see Pienaar has been doing a lot of voting :evil:

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.09.08 12:24:19 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 53) :

    will take some doing :roll:

    @robdylan (Comment 47) :

    Repeat after me – “THERE’S ONLY ONE…”

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.09.08 12:25:38 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 56) : THERE’S ONLY ONE…

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.09.08 12:26:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • :roll:

    a) GAVIN LAWLESS
    b) 50-point-man

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.09.08 12:33:32 by Le Requinny Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 58) : c) both of the above.

    I know who it is… just wondering where on earth you found the picture.

    Man, those “beauty queen” jerseys were great.

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.09.08 12:50:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 54) :

    Yip that is 100% correct.

    We were talking about it before he left Dbn in 2000 or 2001 and he was moving to the Cape. He was intentionally registering with Boland referees becasue that would then allow him to ref all 5 of the big 5.

    When he was in Dbn he missed out on quite a bit for being with the DRRS.

    I was wondering where he is now as he reffed Boland this last weekend so was obviously not in Boland anymore.

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.09.08 12:57:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Le Requinny (Comment 54) : yeah, thats why the boks will always battle in internationals. we all know the best refs in the world are south african, but we will never have the best referees reffing our games. so the boks will always have to fight substandard refs until the rules are changed.

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.09.08 13:05:57 by try time Reply

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  • although in saying that i must say stuart dickenson has upped his game with the new laws.

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