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The Tri-Nations dream team


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Tri Nations on 16 Sep 2008 at 06:37

The rugby365 and iafrica teams got together for their annual Tri-Nations selection process and produced a Dream Team. They think their team can beat any selection from the rest of the world.

They may have had an early-season wobble, but New Zealand came back strongly to win both the Tri-Nations and Bledisloe Cup – and not surprisingly they also dominate the team.

There are nine All Blacks in the Dream Team, four South Africans and two Australians.

The Tri-Nations Dream Team:

15 – Mils Muliaina (New Zealand):
He wins our vote because he was just a touch more consistent that Conrad Jantjes and Adam Ashley-Cooper, who both put forward strong arguments.

14 – Peter Hynes (Australia):
He always looked threatening with the ball in hand and his high workrate impressed us. Again, he faced strong challenges from Richard Kahui and Odwa Ndungane.

13 – Adi Jacobs (South Africa):
This one took us a while to decide, as we debated for some time over a position where consistency was not at a premium. Jacobs edged Ryan Cross, a late charge, Conrad Smith and Stirling Mortlock.

12 – Jean de Villiers (South Africa):
Easy decision and without doubt now the world’s premier inside centre.

11 – Sitiveni Sivivatu (New Zealand):
Things did not always go his way, but with ball in hand he still kept the defensive lines honest. Lote Tuqiri was his strongest challenge.

10 – Dan Carter (New Zealand):
Unanimous and simply the best. Need we say more?

9 – Jimmy Cowan (New Zealand):
He took his opportunities this year to secure himself a regular starting spot in the national team, also overcoming some off-field troubles. Once he started focussing on his rugby, he had no trouble in beating off the challenges of Fourie du Preez and Ricky Januarie.

8 – Rodney So’oialo (New Zealand):
He may have faced a late challenge from an ever-improving Pierre Spies, but So’oialo clinched our vote with his stand-out performance in the decider in Brisbane.

7 – Richie McCaw (New Zealand):
Was there ever any doubt?

6 – Schalk Burger (South Africa):
This one caused plenty of debate, but in the end the Burger clan won the vote on the basis of his relentless energy. But believe us, it was not without equally compelling arguments from the Rocky Elsom and George Smith camps.

5 – Ali Williams (New Zealand):
He may not have covered himself in glory in Brisbane this past weekend, but for the duration of the tournament he was much better than a very disappointing Victor Matfield.

4 – James Horwill (Australia):
He may have been a late entry, but he came home in the final stretch to win the sprint – especially his performance in Brisbane. Andries Bekker was his strongest rival.

3 – Greg Somerville (New Zealand):
Steady rather than spectacular, but still streets ahead of any other tighthead prop in this year’s competition. Perhaps the most disappointing of all the positions.

2 – Andrew Hore (New Zealand):
Having now firmly established himself as New Zealand’s best hooker, he was well clear of a very poor chasing bunch – which included World Cup winner Bismarck du Plessis.

1 – Tendai Mtawarira (South Africa):
All we want to say is: ‘Beeeaast!!!’

Their individual selections:

Phil Coetzer XV: 15 Conrad Jantjes, 14 Richard Kahui, 13 Jean de Villiers, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Lote Tuqiri, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Jimmy Cowan, 8 Rodney So’oialo, 7 Richie McCaw, 6 Schalk Burger, 5 Ali Williams, 4 James Horwill, 3 Greg Somerville, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Nick Pawson XV: 15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Peter Hynes, 13 Ryan Cross, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Richie McCaw, 6 Schalk Burger, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 James Horwill, 3 Greg Somerville, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Steve Farrell XV: 15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Adi Jacobs, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Sitiveni Sivivatu, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Jimmy Cowan, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Richie McCaw, 6 Rocky Elsom, 5 Ali Williams, 4 Brad Thorn, 3 Greg Somerville, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Paul Dobson XV: 15 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 14 Peter Hynes, 13 Adi Jacobs, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Sitiveni Sivivatu, 10 Daniel Carter, 9 Ricky Januarie, 8 Rodney So’oialo, 7 Richie McCaw, 6 George Smith, 5 Ali Williams, 4 James Horwill, 3 Greg Somerville, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tony Woodcock.

Rob Peters XV: 15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Peter Hynes, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Lote Tuqiri, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Ricky Januarie, 8 Rodney So’oialo, 7 Richie McCaw, 6 Rocky Elsom, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Andries Bekker, 3 Greg Somerville, Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Jan de Koning XV: 15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Peter Hynes, 13 Stirling Mortlock, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Sitiveni Sivivatu, 10 Daniel Carter, 9 Jimmy Cowan, 8 Rodney So’oialo, 7 Richie McCaw, 6 George Smith, 5 Ali Williams, 4 James Horwill, 3 Greg Somerville, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.



59 Comments

  • I think that had Bekker had more game time he would have been in with a shout.

    Glad to see Captain Colon didn’t get a sniff.

  • Comment 1, posted at 16.09.08 06:47:08 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • There is actually nothing that I find wrong with this team.

    I think these guys have selected well.

  • Comment 2, posted at 16.09.08 06:49:26 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I really Cannot believe the News24 squad has Fouries Du preez at scrumhalf :shock: .

    15 – Mils Muliaina (NZ)
    14 – Sitiveni Sivivatu (NZ)
    13 – Ma’a Nonu (NZ)
    12 – Jean de Villiers (SA)
    11 – Lote Tuqiri (Aus)
    10 – Dan Carter (NZ)
    9 – Fourie du Preez (SA)
    8 – Rodney So’oialo (NZ)
    7 – Rocky Elsom (Aus)
    6 – Richie McCaw (NZ)
    5 – Ali Williams (NZ)
    4 – James Horwill (Aus)
    3 – Greg Somerville (NZ)
    2 – Keven Mealamu (NZ)
    1 – Beast Mtawarira (SA)

  • Comment 3, posted at 16.09.08 06:53:37 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :

    Doesn’t JJ work for news24???

    Should we be surprised then??? :roll:

  • Comment 4, posted at 16.09.08 07:06:24 by wpw (Liverpool 2 Man Utd 1) Reply
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  • @wpw (Liverpool 2 Man Utd 1) (Comment 4) :

    he isn’t OFFICIALLY one of the guys who selcted their team.

    Tank Lanning, who did the forwards, and Rob Houwing, who chose the backs
    from Here

  • Comment 5, posted at 16.09.08 07:17:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) :

    Well that explains it then. :shock:

  • Comment 6, posted at 16.09.08 07:28:05 by wpw (Liverpool 2 Man Utd 1) Reply
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  • Tank and Rob,AiJA

  • Comment 7, posted at 16.09.08 07:43:27 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • its funny u know, in all the years since readmission i can’t remember that anyone would ever say we have the best centre pair in the world, which is effectively what they are saying here.

    we have had the best locks, front row, loosies, but never centres.

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.09.08 07:50:05 by knersboy Reply

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  • @knersboy (Comment 8) : :shock:

    Japie Mulder and Pieter Muller???

    Come on dude! Get wiff ze program! :grin:

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.09.08 07:54:16 by wpw Reply
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  • according to voldy jdv and mossie were the best.but u only read that on voldy

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.09.08 07:55:19 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • @PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 10) :

    how many 3Ns matches did Fourie play to warrant that thought from them? :lol: :oops:

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.09.08 07:59:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @knersboy (Comment 8) : @PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 10) :

    And so will it be :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.09.08 08:01:15 by Charlie Reply

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  • Also can’t believe Spies actually features in some of the teams :roll:

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.09.08 08:34:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 13) : he had ONE good game (at Coca Cola Park)

    I see that Bismarck doesn’t really feature. He was very consistent imo. :roll:

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.09.08 08:39:55 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 14) : Agree on Bismarck, probably lost it on his poor line out throwing

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.09.08 08:43:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • This team also has 2 fetchers and not really a blindside flank. I would have had Elsom in at blindside and Rithie as fetcher( since we play the flank no’s differently)

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.09.08 08:46:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :

    Mealamu ? FdP ? Yeah right…
    And I don’t like McCaw at 6… :roll:

    I do agree with their wing selection though…why pick Hynes when you can switch Sivivatu to the other side…

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.09.08 08:48:23 by just blackshark Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 16) : Although I think Schalk on current form could probably slot in at Blindside and then get a genuine fetcher (baywatch???)

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.09.08 08:48:28 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 18) : Refering to the boks of course and not the 3N team

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.09.08 08:49:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I think Schalk was better than Elsom. He was much more consistent throughout the TN.

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.09.08 08:50:05 by wpw Reply
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  • Ain’t no way there is a better 13 in the world than Mortlock…

    And Bakkies was a tower of strength fighting a losing tight five battle with only Burger assisting… until he got injured that is…

  • Comment 21, posted at 16.09.08 08:52:53 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) :
    If Captain Colon is Victor Matfield then he is mentioned in as many individual team choices as Adi, namely 2 – so on that premise he wouldnt have been too far off from making the final 15, ditto for Spies.
    Are you sure you didnt use your powers of the pen to replace him? :twisted:

  • Comment 22, posted at 16.09.08 08:54:41 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 20) : He played consistently well, but he wasn’t supported…can be a great combo with McCaw,Burger and Rodney. Could be very entertaining to watch

  • Comment 23, posted at 16.09.08 08:54:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 21) : I would normally agree , but Mortlock didn’t have his usual impact as we would come to expect from him

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.09.08 08:57:08 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 22) :

    If he was in there originally i may have been tempted to do it, but seeing as he was there, we will never know whether I would even have bothered posting the article. :wink:

    You are correct BTW I chose Captain Colon because there already was a Queen Victoria. :razz:

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.09.08 09:10:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Leaving out Smith is a big call, considering he was instrumental in cleaning us and the All blacks in Aus and again at Newlands.

    Schalla i think gets the pick on reputation. Smith probably deserves it on performance

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.09.08 09:40:28 by Sauce Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 22) : PLEASE don’t tell me you a fan of Victor… :shock:

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.09.08 09:44:10 by wpw Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 21) : is that the Aussie in you speaking??? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 16.09.08 09:51:44 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 28) :

    No the rugby fan… there is no more complete and dangerous 13 on attack and defense in world rugga at the moment :wink:

    Sauce… With McCaw there, Smith drops out… Schalla is more the NZAR 6 as is Rocky… (at least that’s how I presume they’ve picked the loosies)…

  • Comment 29, posted at 16.09.08 09:58:55 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 27) :
    Never, but I tend to like backing the underdog (Ive been a Natal / Sharks supporter my whole life so it comes with the territory)) , you know the one that is getting picked on relentlessly, be it Matfield, Skipper or Plumtree and even Meisiekind. This does not extend to referee’s though. :wink:

  • Comment 30, posted at 16.09.08 10:01:17 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 30) : have you EVER defended Eddie Andrews???

    (think hard before you answer) :evil:

  • Comment 31, posted at 16.09.08 10:02:57 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 27) :

    He deserves all criticism he gets this season…

  • Comment 32, posted at 16.09.08 10:03:05 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 30) :
    Who is Eddie Andrews? :twisted:

  • Comment 33, posted at 16.09.08 10:20:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.09.08 10:26:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 31) :
    Seriously now, it has nothing to do with defending anyone but more likely not climbing on the bandwagon and calling people useless pieces of shit who should remove themselves from society. Hell Eddie Andrews has deseved criticism and so have all the others previously mentioned -its just the way it is done.

    Im waiting with interest to see what the attitudes are regarding Allister Coetzee now that Province are back on track after the Boks have returned. He has had to endure plenty of crap while the Boks are away and it will be interesting to see whether he gets any credit at all or will it be all Jean and the Boks and maybe even Rassies doing.

  • Comment 35, posted at 16.09.08 10:37:12 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 35) : spot on.

    I think KSA is a real tool anyway. :roll:

  • Comment 36, posted at 16.09.08 10:48:47 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 36) :
    :twisted: You reckon, I thought it may be the sun.

  • Comment 37, posted at 16.09.08 10:55:48 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 21) : If memory serves right, Mortlock never had been the better part when Jacobs was involved in a match, no matter @ Super or Test rugby level… :wink:

  • Comment 38, posted at 16.09.08 11:02:33 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 38) : :mrgreen: I’be been waiting for you to address this…

  • Comment 39, posted at 16.09.08 11:12:23 by just blackshark Reply

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  • @just blackshark (Comment 39) : Now I know B is next to V… :oops:

  • Comment 40, posted at 16.09.08 11:12:56 by just blackshark Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 38) :
    :wink:

  • Comment 41, posted at 16.09.08 11:18:35 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 38) :

    How can Adi, i mean Charlie ever be objective when it comes to Mr Jacobs??? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 16.09.08 11:20:44 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 42) :

    :idea: does anyone know what Mrs Jacobs’ first name is?

  • Comment 43, posted at 16.09.08 11:37:19 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 43) : Charlotte ;)

  • Comment 44, posted at 16.09.08 11:44:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 43) : @robdylan (Comment 44) : Why getting personal :roll:

  • Comment 45, posted at 16.09.08 12:14:19 by Charlie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 42) : :idea: Reality and fact base :wink: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 46, posted at 16.09.08 12:15:54 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 45) : we’re teasing, Charlie… ;)

  • Comment 47, posted at 16.09.08 12:19:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : Just joking buddy…I know… :lol:

  • Comment 48, posted at 16.09.08 12:23:28 by Charlie Reply

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  • Here is the squad that the guys at RugbyHeaven picked. They chose a full 22.

    15 Mils Muliaina (New Zealand):
    14 Richard Kahui (New Zealand):
    13 Stirling Mortlock (Australia):
    12 Jean de Villiers (South Africa):
    11 Lote Tuqiri (Australia):
    10 Dan Carter (New Zealand):
    9 Ricky Januarie (South Africa):
    8 Rodney So’oialo (New Zealand):
    7 Richie McCaw, captain (New Zealand):
    6 Rocky Elsom (Australia):
    5 Victor Matfield (South Africa):
    4 James Horwill (Australia):
    3 Greg Somerville (New Zealand):
    2 Bismarck du Plessis (South Africa):
    1 Tony Woodcock (New Zealand):

    Reserves:
    Beast Mtawarira (South Africa):
    Andrew Hore (New Zealand):
    Ali Williams (New Zealand):
    George Smith (Australia):
    Jimmy Cowan (New Zealand):
    Matt Giteau (Australia):
    Conrad Jantjes (South Africa):

  • Comment 49, posted at 16.09.08 15:03:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 49) :

    Victor???? :shock: :shock:

    Januarie???

  • Comment 50, posted at 16.09.08 15:42:11 by wpw Reply
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  • Woodcock???

  • Comment 51, posted at 16.09.08 15:49:33 by just blackshark Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 49) : The Oz or Nz rugbyheaven oubaas?

  • Comment 52, posted at 16.09.08 15:50:27 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • Must be NZ…otherwise why would they pick RICKY…and WOODCOCK…

  • Comment 53, posted at 16.09.08 16:00:33 by just blackshark Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 50) :

    Must be NZ… they don’t bother to watch any game they are not involved in… no kidding!

  • Comment 54, posted at 16.09.08 16:34:23 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 52) :

    The Aus one.

  • Comment 55, posted at 16.09.08 17:55:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Bekker was poor in my opinion..he had one decent game. Other than that, spent too much time as a glory boy on the wing rather than doing his primary job. Same could be said for a number of other Boks.

    Elsom is a shoe in for me. And some are picking players on reputation and not form ie. Matfield and Sivivatu!

  • Comment 56, posted at 16.09.08 22:47:28 by Villie Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 21) : Can you just imagine what Mortlock will be like next to Jean? There are not an adequate smiley to describe carnage.

    Jean is so good that he makes even average players look like stars. :cool:

  • Comment 57, posted at 17.09.08 05:42:09 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • That Andrew Hore may not have what we call the presence, but he plays like a man possessed and thoroughly deserves his place in this team. I rate Bismarck as potentially the best hooker that I have seen in many a year, and that is a big mouthful. Please note that I say potentially.

  • Comment 58, posted at 17.09.08 05:48:28 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 57) :

    And Carter inside them… off-loading to Habana and Lote… eish!

  • Comment 59, posted at 17.09.08 06:46:32 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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