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Loose forwards and centres still to be decided


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 17 Sep 2008 at 11:25
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Piecing together some bits of news, I’m starting to get a slightly clearer picture of what this weekend’s Sharks team is likely to look like.

Bismarck du Plessis and Beast Mtawarira will definitely not play. The former has been given the week off and the latter is battling with a groin injury. Pat Cilliers will start at tighthead, with Skipper Badenhorst and Deon Carstens making up the balance of the front row. Jannie du Plessis will cover both sides from the bench, while Craig Burden will earn a recall to the match 22 (and hope to usurp Badenhorst’s position as the de facto number 16 until John Smit returns).

In the second row, Muller and Sykes will again start, with Albert van den Berg providing cover. Al Hargreaves has told me that he won’t be ready to play until next week at the absolute earliest, while Nikolai Blignaut hasn’t really shown enough to warrant a spot at this stage.

Ryan Kankowski will definitely start at 8, with stalwart Jacques Botes at 6. Jean Deysel will probably be at blindside, although I’m awaiting confirmation on his fitness. Should he fail to recover, expect Keegan Daniel to be shoehorned in, although I have a feeling the time may be right for the exciting young Justin Downey to make his long awaited Sharks debut somewhere along the line. Don’t be too surprised to see Daniel and Downey both named in a 5-2 split on the bench.

It appears as though Ruan Pienaar has been earmarked to wear ten should Fred Michalak not pass a fitness test. I wonder how Pienaar feels about this move, having started to show some nice form at scrummie again. Should the Frenchman fall out, Rory Kockott would, of course, come in at scrumhalf with Charl McLeod moving onto the bench. So Frans Steyn at flyhalf is not on the cards this week, contrary to what I assumed in my post yesterday.

Steyn looks to be cementing his spot in midfield and really played his best all-round game in a long time last weekend. Should Adi Jacobs recover from a foot injury, he will start at outside centre with Steyn at 12. Should Jacobs not be able to play, expect Brad Barritt at 12 and Steyn outside him. Barritt himself may not make it, leading to further confusion in the ranks. Riaan Swanepoel has clearly displaced Andries Strauss as the next man in line and he could play either 12 or 13, depending on which of Barritt, Jacobs, or both, fails to be passed fit.

Waylon Murray seems set to continue on the wing, particularly in light of Odwa Ndungane’s injury. According to the Sharks coaching staff, the dreadlocked winger didn’t hurt himself nearly as badly as one would think he did and may even be able to play this weekend. The smart money, though, would be on a wing combination of Murray and JP Pietersen.

Stefan Terblanche will also definitely not play and I would expect his position at fullback to go to Chris Jordaan this week. Anyone know the theme to “A Star is Born”?

So – here’s my latest attempt at a possible team:

1 Carstens, 2 Badenhorst, 3 Cilliers, 4 Sykes, 5 Muller, 6 Botes, 7 Deysel, 8 Kankowski
9 Pienaar/Kokcott, 10 Michalak/Pienaar, 11 Murray, 12 Steyn/Barritt/Swanepoel, 13 Jacobs/Steyn/Swanepoel, 14 Pietersen, 15 Jordaan
16 Burden, 17 du Plessis, 18 van den Berg, 19 Downey, 20 Daniel, 21 Kockott/Macleod, 22 Barritt/Swanepoel/Dumond



55 Comments

  • ok, so just to make this easier.

    Scenario 1: Jacobs out, Barritt in
    12 Barritt, 13 Steyn, 22 Swannie
    Scenario 2: Jacobs in, Barritt out
    12 Steyn, 13 Jacobs, 22 Swannie
    Scenario 3: Jacobs and Barritt both in
    12 Steyn, 13 Jacobs, 22 Barritt
    Scenario 4, Jacobs and Barritt both out
    12 Steyn, 13 Swannie, 22 Dumond

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.09.08 11:40:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : All to much to absorb. I’ll wait for the official announcement :roll:

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.09.08 11:46:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : That LOOKS confusing… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.09.08 11:51:50 by just blackshark Reply

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  • I think it’s between Scenario 2 and 3…but then again…ADI can always start on the bench…

    I’m with Pokkel on this …I’ll wait for the official team…

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.09.08 11:58:52 by just blackshark Reply

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  • hey if you post enough teams you will eventually, once they announce the team, be able to say. Hey i picked the team exactly like that. :wink:

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.09.08 11:59:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @just blackshark (Comment 3) :

    LOOKS?????????????? it flippen is.

    Rob is going to start second geussing himslef in a minute.

    oh wait he already has :wink:

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.09.08 12:00:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : Tch…

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.09.08 12:03:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : :lol: I wonder what would happen if the Grinch stole Steyn…
    @robdylan (Comment 7) : :lol:

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.09.08 12:10:19 by just blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) :

    in Other words: “Well Reader, if you ask me for a straight answer, then I shall say that, as far as we can see, looking at it by and large, taking one thing with another in terms of the average of departments, then in the final analysis it is probably true to say, that at the end of the day, in general terms, you would probably find that, not to put too fine a point on it, there probably wasn’t very much in it one way or the other as far as one can see, at this stage. “

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.09.08 12:19:41 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Hey Rob, You play rugby this weekend in the first UK league game?

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.09.08 12:24:45 by beez Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 9) : where the hell have you been? ;)

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.09.08 12:29:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @beez (Comment 10) : um – no. Did you? ;)

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.09.08 12:31:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : What the heck…Use our Wildebeest team :twisted: :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.09.08 12:38:30 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 13) : will Adi play? He didn’t answer my sms :(

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.09.08 12:40:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Moved house so no net for a while.

    Yeah of course, played 3 games already, remember you had been practising with kent, so wondered if the practise had carried through to the field..

    Good to hear the sharks are doing well, need to get sky, missing all the rugby!!!

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.09.08 12:41:18 by beez Reply

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  • Thanks for simplyfing things there Rob.

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.09.08 12:58:00 by Big Fish (Norman Jordaan is a LEGEND) Reply
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  • @beez (Comment 15) : don’t get your hopes up… there’s not a lot of it on Sky

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.09.08 12:58:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : Precious little lately. :evil:

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.09.08 13:15:13 by McLovin Reply

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  • @beez (Comment 15) : If you’re a Valke fan you’ll be happy. Sky show almost all their games.

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.09.08 13:17:19 by McLovin Reply

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  • Found out yesterday that Deysel was part of the Lions set-up till 2006…and overlooked :roll:

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.09.08 13:28:39 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 19) : Are there Valke fans?

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.09.08 13:46:26 by beez Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : This lack of rugby on tv might scupper this whole uk adventure!

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.09.08 13:47:07 by beez Reply

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  • @beez (Comment 22) : You got a decent broadband connection?

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.09.08 13:51:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 2) :

    Hehe… ditto!

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.09.08 14:07:34 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @beez (Comment 21) : True. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.09.08 14:15:41 by McLovin Reply

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  • Some great backline talent at the sharks, there really is.

    I actually have always wondered if Murray’s best position would be on the wing, he is a big, strong and fast.

    9. kockett 10. pienaar
    12. Steyn 13. Adi
    11. Murray 14. JP 15. Terreblanche

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.09.08 14:17:15 by cab Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) :

    Is that a first? :lol:

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.09.08 14:22:33 by MorneN Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : The BT one. getting around 2mbs download so seems pretty good after Iburst in SA.

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.09.08 15:28:11 by beez Reply

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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 24) : It’s only the Valke , the Sharks can play their 2nd team and still get the bonus point. Obviously not much news around or Rob is really bored :wink:

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.09.08 15:42:33 by Pokkel Reply
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  • PROOOOOOOOOOOOOVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINCE

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.09.08 16:24:12 by PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) Reply
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  • BEAST – Stormers #1 jersey 2009 S14

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.09.08 16:26:47 by PJLD Reply
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  • @beez (Comment 28) : ok – so then you have a good option for watching the games without sky ;)

    @PJLD (Comment 31) : alweer getik? ;)

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.09.08 16:36:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 31) : Amen !

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.09.08 16:36:57 by Sauce Reply
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  • Beast ain’t going nowhere.

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.09.08 16:41:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : Getting defensive?

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.09.08 16:47:09 by Sauce Reply
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  • @Sauce (Comment 35) : not at all… I know saucy rumours when I see them ;)

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.09.08 16:48:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : Rassie has proven his skill at attracting quality to the Cape – see the Mujati incident…besides the fair cape isn’t as much of an eyesore as that Dorpie on the east coast :wink:

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.09.08 16:50:09 by Sauce Reply
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  • @Sauce (Comment 37) : You mean he lies and cheats? :-) Beast is contracted till the end of next year, so he can try be clever then

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.09.08 17:14:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) : How for?
    Tell me the secrets.
    All the online guys seem to be region locked.

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.09.08 17:19:42 by beez Reply

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  • contract shmontract

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.09.08 17:31:10 by PJLD Reply
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  • @beez (Comment 39) : Four words. Non-UK proxy server

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.09.08 17:41:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • As far as I know Jacques will be rested for this game, coming of the bench if Jean Deysel is fit to play. So the loosies would then actually be Keegan, Deysel, Konkowski. It’s hard to say with all these niggles still being sorted out.

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.09.08 17:41:42 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 42) : Thanks. You hear that from any interesting source? :-)

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.09.08 18:05:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 9) : I like that… :smile:

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.09.08 18:52:00 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 20) : That’s how quick the Sharks are. Do not feel bad, such things happen to Lion supporters. :twisted: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.09.08 18:54:46 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) :Straight from the horses mouth :lol: Jacques, you might have read works at Xhilarator now, it’s my Dad’s company, my Mom works there as well and she likes asking him out about these kind of stuff.

  • Comment 46, posted at 18.09.08 10:30:27 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 46) :

    Are we talking about Jacquess Botes here?

    Letgo, What is xhilarator? Why does a Pro player need a job.

  • Comment 47, posted at 18.09.08 10:42:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 46) : we would LOVE to interview him. Seems to shy away from the limelight.

  • Comment 48, posted at 18.09.08 10:45:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • We’re talking about Jacques Botes.

    You have to read the Sharks magazine, there’s a whole article about it in there, I’m not sure how many issues back. I think this is a link of that article on the Xhilarator website, http://www.xhilarator.com/Press/May_2008_Sharls_Magazine.pdf or just go to http://www.Xhilarator.com

    Jacques has a B-com degree and Xhilarator is an investment management company, at this moment Jacques is mainly used as a means advertisement, celebrity branding type of thing. Xhilarator sponsors his car and he comes in to work once a week for a small salary, more for the experience than anything else, but with the agreement that once he is not a pro player anymore he will have a full time job. I guess he’s just being smart and planning for the future.

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.09.08 10:57:00 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 49) : very clever. Wouldn’t like to be in Investment Management full time right at this moment, though ;)

  • Comment 50, posted at 18.09.08 11:00:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : I could try to organize something for you, I’ll get back to you on that.

  • Comment 51, posted at 18.09.08 11:00:09 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 51) : merci

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.09.08 11:10:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • :smile:

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.09.08 11:11:55 by Letgo Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 41) : ctunnel.com

    Should solve most of your woes

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.09.08 11:22:57 by Sauce Reply
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  • @Sauce (Comment 54) : to stream you need a non-browser based one

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