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Helgard not happy


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Currie Cup, In the news, WP on 1 Oct 2008 at 08:24
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Western Province may have missed out on a bonus point against the Boland Cavaliers in the Wellington mud on Saturday, but a spot of administrative fumbling and some clever gamesmanship very nearly gave them a telling advantage over their semifinal rivals.

rugby365.com reported on Saturday that a “slip of the finger” from the South African Rugby Union (SARU) administrative machine caused the Boland v WP tie to be erroneously switched from Wellington to Newlands on Friday, before some vociferous protest from other unions caused the tie to be switched back to its original venue, writes Phil Coetzer.

The match went ahead, and in very limiting conditions, WP failed to score a fourth try, which would have given them the bonus point needed to ease their passage into the semifinals.

Cheetahs manager Helgard Müller told rugby365.com of his astonishment when he first learned that the tie was supposedly moved to become, in effect, a Province home game.

“When I saw that the tie was moved to Newlands, I though it must be an April Fool’s joke. But then I double checked my calendar and saw it was almost October,” the jovial Müller said tongue-in-cheek.

“One is not 100 percent certain about what actually happened there, but to be honest, I can’t imagine who would come up with such an audacious plan.

“We [Cheetahs management] talked about it, and one of the reasons we were upset was that the curtainraisers that were meant to be played before the Lions and WP games, were moved to another venue.

“However, when we [Cheetahs] played there [in similar poor conditions], the curtainraisers were not moved.”

Müller’s point is that moving the curtainraisers to another venue gave the Lions and WP a certain advantage that the Cheetahs did not have, as it had the effect of saving the pitch from becoming a muddy mess before the main match.

It is also interesting to note that the Cheetahs could only scrape a 15-10 win over Boland at Wellington back in the beginning of August, following many days of driving rain on the poorly drained pitch.

However, all will be forgotten if the Cheetahs qualify for the Currie Cup semifinals on Saturday.



13 Comments

  • I can’t believe Helgard used the word audacious. :wink:

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.10.08 10:05:52 by McLovin Reply
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  • Province didn’t get the BP…so he can stop complaining… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.10.08 10:14:35 by just blackshark Reply
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  • Non event for the FS

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.10.08 10:21:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Who can remember the (in)famous Helgaardt gooi sy toys uit die kot- incidenct many years ago?? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Gawd – that was the day i started disliking him…and everytime i see his face that little ‘video’ plays in my head! :evil: :evil:

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.10.08 10:24:43 by I'ce (Rebel With a Cause) Reply
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  • I hear there is some more controversy…the Cheetahs fielded a player that they loaned to the Griffons, sounds like they are also in trouble, WP and SWD “complained”.

    It’s in breach of regulation 7.5

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.10.08 10:41:20 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 5) : not impressed with this. we need to up the standard of rugby in the b division, the bigger unions need to loan excess players to them. eagles complaint just shoots these minnow teams in the foot because the big unions will just pull all their players out leaving these weakened teams worse off than before. it is these same small union fools that cock up saru. it is time for the money teams to stand together and block these stupid unions.

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.10.08 10:46:18 by try time Reply

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  • Although the Cheetahs will probably say that the Currie Cup Premier section and the other section are different competitions, so they did not breach regulation 7.5

    7.5 A Player loaned to another Province may not be loaned further to other Province(s) or return to play for his Current Province during the same year to represent his Current Province in the same competition he took part in when he moved to another Province on loan.

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.10.08 10:46:19 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 7) : yes eagles have nothing to complain about. just a load of sour grapes. one player doesn’t make a team, ask frans. :wink:

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.10.08 10:49:41 by try time Reply

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  • 7.5 A Player loaned to another Province may not be loaned further to other Province(s) or return to play for his Current Province during the same year to represent his Current Province in the same competition he took part in when he moved to another Province on loan.

    So :?:

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.10.08 12:24:23 by just blackshark Reply

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  • @just blackshark (Comment 9) : thats what we are saying, eagles have no case. just sour grapes.

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.10.08 12:30:38 by try time Reply

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  • do we really want talented players sitting around getting no game time? no, we need to know that when a player gets injured we have the backup ready to take the guys spot. eagles are just making sure they don’t get any players from big unions.

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.10.08 12:33:35 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 11) : Why don’t we just have 6 unions, with an A team and a B team competition?

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.10.08 12:36:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • Take a look at the Major League Baseball system. Each major league team has “farm” teams associated with them. They serve as feeders for the major league team and also serve as a place where players can play their way back from injury, sort out issues with their playing skills, regain fitness, etc.

    Perhaps each of the top 7 unions could hook up with one of the bottom 7 unions and arrange a contract with them for player swaps, loans, etc. These agreements could potentially change each season, or could be multi year agreements. The “farm” unions would benefit by being able to play top level players from time to time, and the primary union would also provide monetary incentive. Think about John Smit being able to play one or two full games before coming back into the CC premier division instead of having to get a few minutes off the bench. He benefits, the Sharks benefit with a fitter more prepared player back from injury, and the “farm” union benefits by having the Bok captain play a couple games for their fans.

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.10.08 14:37:02 by Dancing Bear Reply
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