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S14 2009 Draft fixtures released


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Super 14 on 6 Oct 2008 at 09:38

The Sharks and the Bulls are set for an re-enactment of their epic Super 14 final last year when the 2009 series kicks off in February next year.

In the proposed draft fixtures circulated to the franchises the two sides will meet in Durban on February 6 in the first round of the competition which will most probably see playoffs between the top six sides and not the top four as has been the case until now.

News 24 reports that the Cheetahs and the Stormers will be involved in another derby in the first round and the Lions will be at home against the Waratahs.

The Cheetahs are the first South African side to play overseas in 2009′s Super 14. They meet the Force on February 20 – the first of five matches on the road with the Reds, Hurricanes, Blues and the Highlanders to follow over the next four weekends.

They are followed by the Sharks who meet the Chiefs in Hamilton on February 27. They have another three matches in the Antipodes over the following three weekends.

The Bulls have five games overseas, the first on March 20 against the Hurricanes in Wellington followed by the Highlanders, Crusaders, Waratahs and Brumbies. This time it is the Stormers that get the short end of the stick. They play Crusaders in New Zealand before returning to Australia for matches against the Waratahs and Brumbies before another trans-Tasman trip to play the Hurricanes and Highlanders in New Zealand.

The Lions’ overseas matches are against the Chiefs, Blues, Reds and Force on four consecutive weekends starting on April 4.

As it stands most matches on the draft fixture list are scheduled for Friday, but this is bound to be reviewed and revised when the Sanzar committee meets in Sydney on October 15 to discuss the competition.

Other issues that will be on the table will include the set of ELVs to be used with South Africa strongly favouring the international ELVs in order to be prepared for the British and Irish Lions tour just after the Super 14.

The Waratahs are also upset that, due to the intricacies involved in fitting in the extended competition before the Lions tour, they will have to make two trips to South Africa – a first for any side from Australia or New Zealand since the inception of the competition in 1996.

The new proposed play-off structure, with the third to sixth teams on the log playing to determine which two will go in to the semi-finals against the top two log finishers, will also be discussed and refined.

*Six team playoff to follow after Round 14

**Matches not yet official and therefore subject to change

Mock Super 14 draft:

Round 1:
Blues v Crusaders, Auckland
Cheetahs v Stormers, Bloemfontein
Sharks v Bulls, Durban
Reds v Hurricanes, Brisbane
Chiefs v Brumbies, Hamilton
Lions v Waratahs, Johannesburg
Force v Highlanders, Perth

Round 2:
Bulls v Reds, Pretoria
Stormers v Sharks, Cape Town
Lions v Cheetahs, Johannesburg
Hurricanes v Waratahs, Wellington
Highlanders v Brumbies, Dunedin
Force v Blues, Perth
Crusaders v Chiefs, Christchurch

Round 3:
Stormers v Reds, Cape Town
Sharks v Lions, Durban
Brumbies v Crusaders, Canberra
Bulls v Blues, Pretoria
Force v Cheetahs, Perth
Waratahs v Chiefs, Sydney
Hurricanes v Highlanders, Wellington

Round 4:
Stormers v Blues, Cape Town
Lions v Bulls, Johannesburg
Waratahs v Highlanders, Sydney
Chiefs v Sharks, Hamilton
Reds v Cheetahs, Brisbane
Crusaders v Hurricanes, Christchurch
Brumbies v Force, Canberra

Round 5:
Bulls v Stormers, Pretoria
Waratahs v Reds, Sydney
Blues v Sharks, Auckland
Highlanders v Crusaders, Dunedin
Chiefs v Force, Hamilton
Hurricanes v Cheetahs, Wellington

Round 6:
Brumbies v Waratahs, Canberra
Stormers v Lions, Cape Town
Redsv Sharks, Brisbane
Highlanders v Chiefs, Dunedin
Blues v Cheetahs, Auckland
Crusaders v Force, Christchurch

Round 7:
Lions v Brumbies, Johannesburg
Waratahs v Crusaders, Sydney
Chiefs v Blues, Hamilton
Hurricanes v Bulls, Wellington
Highlanders v Cheetahs, Invercargill
Force v Sharks, Perth

Round 8:
Lions v Hurricanes, Johannesburg
Sharks v Brumbies, Durban
Reds v Chiefs, Brisbane
Crusaders v Stormers, Christchurch
Highlanders v Bulls, Dunedin
Blues v Waratahs, Auckland

Round 9:
Sharks v Hurricanes, Durban
Cheetahs v Brumbies, Bloemfontein
Waratahs v Stormers, Sydney
Crusaders v Bulls, Christchurch
Force v Reds, Perth
Chiefs v Lions, Hamilton

Round 10:
Cheetahs v Sharks, Bloemfontein
Waratahs v Bulls, Sydney
Blues v Lions, Auckland
Force v Hurricanes, Perth
Brumbies v Stormers, Canberra
Highlanders v Reds, Dunedin

Round 11:
Sharks v Crusaders, Durban
Reds v Lions, Brisbane
Brumbies v Bulls, Canberra
Hurricanes v Stormers, Palmerston North
Cheetahs v Chiefs, Bloemfontein
Blues v Highlanders, Auckland
Waratahs v Force, Sydney

Round 12:
Cheetahs v Crusaders, Bloemfontein
Bulls v Chiefs, Pretoria
Force v Lions, Perth
Blues v Reds, Auckland
Highlanders v Stormers, Dunedin
Hurricanes v Brumbies, Wellington

Round 13:
Sharks v Highlanders, Durban
Lions v Crusaders, Johannesburg
Cheetahs v Waratahs, Kimberley
Hurricanes v Blues, Wellington
Reds v Brumbies, Brisbane
Stormers v Chiefs, Cape Town
Bulls v Force, Pretoria

Round 14:
Bulls v Cheetahs, Pretoria
Brumbies v Blues, Canberra
Crusaders v Reds, Christchurch
Sharks v Waratahs, Durban
Stormers v Force, Cape Town
Chiefs v Hurricanes, Hamilton
Lions v Highlanders, Johannesburg



51 Comments

  • The new proposed play-off structure, with the third to sixth teams on the log playing to determine which two will go in to the semi-finals against the top two log finishers, will also be discussed and refined.

    OH GIMME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If you end 5th you don’t make the play-offs, end of story!!!!!

    Why create a situation where finishing mid table still gives you a shot at winning the competition?

  • Comment 1, posted at 06.10.08 09:40:48 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • So the Sharks have 3 SA games (H, A, H) before going Overseas to play 4 Games (NZ, NZ, Aus, Aus) then then return to SA. Where they play 4 matches (H, H, A, H) before having a bye in Round 12. They then finish off with two home games.

  • Comment 2, posted at 06.10.08 09:56:49 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Sharks:

    Sharks v Bulls, Durban
    Stormers v Sharks, Cape Town
    Sharks v Lions, Durban
    Chiefs v Sharks, Hamilton
    Blues v Sharks, Auckland
    Reds v Sharks, Brisbane
    Force v Sharks, Perth

    Sharks v Brumbies, Durban
    Sharks v Hurricanes, Durban
    Cheetahs v Sharks, Bloemfontein
    Sharks v Crusaders, Durban
    Round 12: BYE
    Sharks v Highlanders, Durban
    Sharks v Waratahs, Durban

  • Comment 3, posted at 06.10.08 10:00:54 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Bulls:

    Sharks v Bulls, Durban
    Bulls v Reds, Pretoria
    Bulls v Blues, Pretoria
    Lions v Bulls, Johannesburg
    Bulls v Stormers, Pretoria
    Round 6: BYE
    Hurricanes v Bulls, Wellington
    Highlanders v Bulls, Dunedin
    Crusaders v Bulls, Christchurch
    Waratahs v Bulls, Sydney
    Brumbies v Bulls, Canberra

    Bulls v Chiefs, Pretoria
    Bulls v Force, Pretoria
    Bulls v Cheetahs, Pretoria

    They have a BYE the week bfore starting their o/s leg :cool:

  • Comment 4, posted at 06.10.08 10:03:57 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I carent wait. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 5, posted at 06.10.08 10:04:37 by McLovin Reply
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  • This propased play-off structure is straight from rugby league.

  • Comment 6, posted at 06.10.08 10:05:37 by McLovin Reply
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  • Cheetahs:

    Cheetahs v Stormers, Bloemfontein
    Lions v Cheetahs, Johannesburg
    Force v Cheetahs, Perth
    Reds v Cheetahs, Brisbane
    Hurricanes v Cheetahs, Wellington
    Blues v Cheetahs, Auckland
    Highlanders v Cheetahs, Invercargill

    Round 8: BYE
    Cheetahs v Brumbies, Bloemfontein
    Cheetahs v Sharks, Bloemfontein
    Cheetahs v Chiefs, Bloemfontein
    Cheetahs v Crusaders, Bloemfontein
    Cheetahs v Waratahs, Kimberley
    Bulls v Cheetahs, Pretoria

    Small respite after returning from a TOUGH away leg

  • Comment 7, posted at 06.10.08 10:05:51 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 6) :

    Not sure which is worse. Their play-off structure or their game. :wink:

  • Comment 8, posted at 06.10.08 10:06:32 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Lions

    Lions v Waratahs, Johannesburg
    Lions v Cheetahs, Johannesburg
    Sharks v Lions, Durban
    Lions v Bulls, Johannesburg
    Round 5: BYE
    Stormers v Lions, Cape Town
    Lions v Brumbies, Johannesburg
    Lions v Hurricanes, Johannesburg
    Chiefs v Lions, Hamilton
    Waratahs v Bulls, Sydney
    Reds v Lions, Brisbane
    Force v Lions, Perth

    Lions v Crusaders, Johannesburg
    Lions v Highlanders, Johannesburg

    pretty easy draw IMO

  • Comment 9, posted at 06.10.08 10:08:17 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • a fixture list like that is the best any sa side could hope for. we start our overseas leg in new zealand and slowly make our way back towards sa. finally a fixture list that is fair on the sa teams. we have no excuse next year, except for maybe flyhalf.

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.10.08 10:09:46 by try time Reply
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  • Stormers

    Cheetahs v Stormers, Bloemfontein
    Stormers v Sharks, Cape Town
    Stormers v Reds, Cape Town
    Stormers v Blues, Cape Town
    Bulls v Stormers, Pretoria
    Stormers v Lions, Cape Town
    Round 7: BYE
    Crusaders v Stormers, Christchurch
    Waratahs v Stormers, Sydney
    Brumbies v Stormers, Canberra
    Hurricanes v Stormers, Palmerston North
    Highlanders v Stormers, Dunedin

    Stormers v Chiefs, Cape Town
    Stormers v Force, Cape Town

    Must be the toughest away tour of the SA teams. but with a BYE before they go it may bee good

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.10.08 10:10:20 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 9) : hell you are harsh ksa. you are saying the lions are so bad they say bye to their chances after round 4. “Round 5: BYE” :lol:

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.10.08 10:12:41 by try time Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 12) :

    THAT thought came to my mind as well. :lol:

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.10.08 10:16:15 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • So the Stormers have to cross the Tasman twice on a 5 week tour?

    Nice home run though.

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.10.08 10:16:51 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 14) :

    yeah that ain’t easy

    good for your frequent flyer miles though :wink:

    SA to NZ
    NZ to Aus
    Aus to NZ
    NZ to SA

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.10.08 10:19:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • i think that six team playoff has been put in to stop the sharks. a six team playoff structure disadvantages the sa teams even more. lets see just how big hoskins balls are when he takes them on in feb.

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.10.08 10:20:14 by try time Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 14) : yeah sharks had to do it this year.

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.10.08 10:21:17 by try time Reply

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  • sorry take that back. sharks are going to end top of the log it won’t effect them. it is there to stop the bulls and stormers. it could however help the sa teams as well. because i am sure the games will be played at the teams ground that had the away game. meaning bulls would probably play the chiefs brumbies hurricanes or waratahs at home as they play them away during the rounds. similar situation for stormers. could play against the antipodean teams.

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.10.08 10:26:56 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 17) :

    If I am not mistaken so too the Stormers, played the Reds in Bris, then went to NZ only to return to Aus.

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.10.08 10:28:17 by MorneN Reply
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  • Might be mistaken though.

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.10.08 10:35:46 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 14) : Pity they struggle to win at home :-)

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.10.08 10:40:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 20) :

    Nope. You are right

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/super-14-2008-fixtures/

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.10.08 10:41:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) :

    :mrgreen: :oops: :lol:

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.10.08 10:42:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) :

    Hey did you not see Allister’s excuse post match this weekend.

    WP/Stormers last lost at Newlands against the Crusaders…

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.10.08 10:43:05 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 24) :

    Rob didn’t say you lose he said you struggle to win.

    You didn’t win your last home game at Newlands in the S14. :wink:

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.10.08 10:52:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Anycase, I heard there was almost a punch up at the post match presser at Newlands.

    hehehe, classic.

    Reporters apparently took WP admin and Allister to task.

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.10.08 10:57:02 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 26) : I wonder if Claytie was involved :)

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.10.08 11:00:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 26) :

    Hehehehehe

    Would love to have seen that. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.10.08 11:01:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Isn’t Claytie a lover and not a fighter?

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.10.08 11:13:31 by Kal-El Reply

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  • @Kal-El (Comment 29) : I’m quite relieved to say I know nothing about that :)

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.10.08 11:18:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : Clever answer :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.10.08 11:40:42 by Kal-El Reply

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  • @Kal-El (Comment 31) : I really thought long and hard before answering :)

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.10.08 11:44:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 26) : After the last two performances what do you expect?

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.10.08 11:51:24 by Sauce Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : I WISH :!: Sadly i had work to do

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.10.08 12:12:55 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 34) : you missed the game? You poor bastard!

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.10.08 12:16:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : I think i missed last week!Just about noticed the big freaging aircraft carrier parked off in Table Bay.

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.10.08 12:31:18 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 36) : :)

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.10.08 12:37:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 36) :

    That must explain the non Sb picks then. :roll: :razz:

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.10.08 12:40:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) : yeeeeep

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.10.08 12:43:16 by PJLD Reply
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  • lions have a good fixture list as well. maybe even better than the sharks. they just need some depth and a better coach. oh and they need to find a better stadium.

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.10.08 12:51:44 by try time Reply

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  • maybe they should play at brakpan. the hard ground with hurt the kiwi ponces.

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.10.08 12:53:33 by try time Reply

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  • and more people turn up to watch the game.

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.10.08 12:54:49 by try time Reply

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  • digs aside, the lions have no excuse not to do well next year. their forwards are excellent. the backs need some work (hence my comment about a new coach loffie has no clue on backline organisation)but are capable. other than poor crowd support and an average bench they look good. oh and they need a good conditioning coach, because their injury rate is far too high.

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.10.08 13:03:21 by try time Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 14) : Morne, the Sharks did it this year and got into the semis, so it can’t be used as an excuse by the Stormers ….

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.10.08 13:18:56 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 44) :

    Why not? it was one of the excuses they used this year when they didn’t make it. :smile:

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.10.08 13:25:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I missed this bit originally.

    The Waratahs are also upset that, due to the intricacies involved in fitting in the extended competition before the Lions tour, they will have to make two trips to South Africa :shock: :shock:

    I bet they are whinging like pigs about that.

    No way that will be accepted I think. Expect this draft to change.

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.10.08 13:43:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 46) : ha ha ha ha ha

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.10.08 13:49:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 46) :

    :grin:
    They come to SA for ONE game in Round 1 (Lions) and then comeback in Rounds 13 (Cheetahs) and 14 (Sharks)

    Not that i would want it to happen, but if they take Round one away from the begining of the season and move all the rounds a week earleir and then add Round 1 back at the end of the season then all is good and well.

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.10.08 13:50:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • :shock: :shock: It is ONLY flippen October. :shock: :shock:

    I suppose you have that advantage when you don’t have a domestic season worth mentioning.

    Mitchell lays a Forceful base
    Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:42

    Western Force coach John Mitchell has started to lay the foundation for what he feels will be a “successful campaign”, when the West Australian franchise started their pre-season training at Rugby Park in Perth on Monday.

    Squad members assembled at the team’s headquarters at Perry Lakes to begin preparations for the 2009 Super 14 season.

    The training squad, minus the team’s seven Wallabies, began the day with medical, nutritional and strength and conditioning screening before taking to the field for running tests.

    “First day back it’s always very tough and it was no different today,” said fourth-year prop AJ Whalley.

    “The beep test really hurt actually, I must admit, but we’ve all just come back from our annual leave and everyone is really refreshed and excited about being back together and back into training,” he said.

    Having completed a five-match development tour of England on September 1, the Perth-based team is the first of the Australian Super 14 outfits to report for 2009 pre-season training.

    Coach John Mitchell said players would be rewarded if they come through Monday’s preliminary testing.

    “We’ll have the results [of testing] tomorrow [Tuesday] and if they are positive then those players will be rewarded and trusted to carry on [with conditioning] on their own accord,” said Mitchell.

    “Other’s will be required to shift physically over the next eight weeks.”

    With the team’s seven Wallaby tourists not due to join their Super 14 teammates in Perth until mid-January, Mitchell said the first two months of training would offer players a chance to focus on individual goals.

    “We’ve taken a totally different approach to pre-season this year, starting with today’s testing, which will give us an important basis from which to move forward,” he said.

    “Essentially we’re not a team at all at the moment. We’re not worried about the numbers on [players'] backs. It’s more about how they front and getting them to focus on where they can improve physically as individuals over the next eight weeks.”

    Among the activities in week one of pre-season training is a sand hills session at Scarborough on Friday, following a tough conditioning session at King’s Park Tuesday morning.

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.10.08 13:55:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) : What the heck would we want to make life easier for them for?????

    Stuff them, let them get a taste of tours from hell!

  • Comment 50, posted at 06.10.08 13:57:00 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 50) : damn right, it is time for sa to tell them we are the money so listen to us.

  • Comment 51, posted at 06.10.08 18:50:09 by try time Reply

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