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2008 Sharks are a different kettle of fish


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 9 Oct 2008 at 13:43
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Thought I’d do a bit of homework, so I went and dug up the team the Sharks fielded in the 2007 Currie Cup semi, where we famously lost 12-19 to the Lions.

That Sharks 22 included 5 Springboks, in Johan Ackermann, AJ Venter, Adrian Jacobs, Gcobani Bobo and Stefan Terblanche, although Ackers was the only one of those five to have played any test rugby that year. Adrian Jacobs was named as the starting flyhalf and Gcobani Bobo was at left wing, just to give some perspective on the makeshift nature of the side that played that day.

The side included Beast Mtawarira and Ryan Kankowski in the pack, as well as Odwa Ndungane at right wing, although at the time the game was played, none of these three had yet represented the Boks. Namibians Skipper Badenhorst (who started at hooker) and Kees Lensing (on the bench) added a little more international flavour to the side. Of the 22 that faced the Lions that day, only 11 remain a year later. The starting lineup named today features 8 changes and a positional shift to the one of a year ago.

Gone from the squad (and also from the Sharks) are three of the four props in that 22, Robbie Harris (Nottingham), Kees Lensing (Castres) and Ronnie Uys (Free State). Ackies has retired, while AJ Venter has moved to WP. Among the backs, reserve halfback Scott Matthie has gone to Leeds Carnegie, while Gcobani Bobo is also in Cape Town. Nikolai Blignaut, Skipper Badenhorst, Craig Burden and Monty Dumond are all still part of the Sharks setup, but none of the four is currently in the first-choice 22 (with the possible exception of Blignaut, should Albert van den Berg not be passed fit).

Mtawarira, Steven Sykes, Jacques Botes and Kankowski start in the same positions as last year, while Bismarck du Plessis and Johann Muller were not available due to World Cup commitments in 2007. Jannie du Plessis and Jean Deysel are both new recruits to the side. Keegan Daniel is on the bench, as he was last year, while John Smit, Deon Carstens and Albert van den Berg were all either at the World Cup or injured for the showdown last October.

Into the back division come Ruan Pienaar, Fred Michalak, Frans Steyn and JP Pietersen, all of whom played in the World Cup last year. Jacobs moves from flyhalf to outside centre, while Brad Barritt, Rory Kockott and Waylon Murray all move to the bench in this year’s team. All three started in 2007.

Once the Lions name their team, we’ll see how much their side has changed over the last 12 months, but there’s no doubt that the Sharks squad of 2008 is at least twice as strong as the one that lost last year. Beware, Lions!

2007 Sharks 22 vs Lions, 13 October

15 Stefan Terblanche, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Waylon Murray, 12 Bradley Barritt, 11 Gcobani Bobo, 10 Adrian Jacobs, 9 Rory Kockott, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 AJ Venter (capt), 6 Jacques Botes, 5 Johan Ackermann, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Robbie Harris, 2 Skipper Badenhorst, 1 Tendai Mtawarira
16 Craig Burden, 17 Ronnie Uys, 18 Kees Lensing, 19 Nikolai Blignaut, 20 Keegan Daniel, 21 Scott Mathie, 22 Monty Dumond



68 Comments

  • AJ might as well retired.. :twisted:

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.10.08 13:58:02 by McLovin Reply
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  • might as well have retired.. :roll:

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.10.08 13:59:12 by McLovin Reply
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  • Not the same kettle of fish(Sharks) :roll:

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.10.08 14:05:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • My BIL said he saw this Blue Tata bakkie the other day somewhere in the Cape…looks almost like one of them cutom made Blue bulls cars…turned ou to be AJ’s sponosr vehicle with his name on and everything… :shock: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.10.08 14:05:08 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : I wonder what the WP is paying him for his Cape Holiday

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.10.08 14:07:37 by Pokkel Reply
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  • what a kak birthday present that result was.

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.10.08 14:12:32 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • 13th? You getting a running watch? :wink:

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.10.08 14:14:40 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 6) : Yeah I remember that game, where right under my disbelieving nose, AJ refused to pass to an unmarked Stephan and decided to go for the try himself and was held up, that would have been the winning try! :twisted: I think it was after that move that the Sharks managment decided not to renew his contract!

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.10.08 14:24:30 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • I love that the CC teams have their Springboks for the first time in a long time, now we will see who the real no.1 team in SA is. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.10.08 14:28:15 by Letgo Reply
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  • I hate it to be cocky, it just gets me nervous for the play offs all over again. :shock: :???:

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.10.08 14:28:53 by Letgo Reply
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  • Hey, exactly 48hours to go….Go Sharkies :!:

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.10.08 14:29:46 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 11) : Hey Letgo you had better calm down or else you will be a bundle of nerves come Saturday! Sharks will not dissapoint us I am sure. Like I have said this is the year of the Shark!

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.10.08 14:32:14 by Ragged Reply

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  • @Ice Sharkadelic Babe (Comment 7) : yes and I hope so!

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.10.08 14:32:59 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @Ragged (Comment 12) : I’m always a bundle of nerves come any Sharks game, but even more so when we have only two games left to winning the Cup, I don’t think being a Shark supporter is very good for my health. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.10.08 14:37:10 by Letgo Reply
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  • What does a running watch do? :twisted:

    I don’t wear a watch. :cool:

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.10.08 14:38:38 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 15) :

    LOL Letgo…Rob runs marathons and times he’s race on his cellphone in his pocket.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: So I said he should ask the ladies in his life for a watch for his birthday.. :wink:

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.10.08 14:40:37 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 14) : I have not missed a final, in fact the first one i watched was in 1986 at Newlands, the best one ever for me was in 1990 at Loftus, The Ellis Park win in 1992 was also very special. But since 1996 I have been dissapointed, the worst one ever was last year. But I convinced myself that the reason why we need to experience defeat is so that we can really appreciate victory. After 12 years it will almost as good as 1990. can you imagine another ticker parade in Durbs?

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.10.08 14:45:34 by Ragged Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 14) :

    Imagine what it feels like to be a WP supporter…

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.10.08 14:45:52 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • Rob I may I say this ( and i am not brown nosing here) but this is an excelent post. Although it is recent history it is amazing to recall just how depleted we were for that game. This side as make shift as it was gave a good account of itself and were unlucky to lose, and if not for a briliant performance from Jaco Pretorius and an bit of Rose magic, it may well ahve been another final!

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.10.08 14:52:31 by Ragged Reply

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  • @Ragged (Comment 17) : If only I was around for those days to enjoy those finals and wins, I can still remember 1996, but since I was still just a um…(what’s the female version of laaitie?)…I didn’t appreciate it as much. I’m waiting for my one real win from the Sharks, but I see what you mean, it will be so much greater now because we have been waiting so long.
    I can’t even imagine how I will react to a win, I already now I will cry again if we loose…again :???:
    Maybe I’ll be so emotional I’ll even cry if we win…or when we win right. :mrgreen:
    @bryce_in_oz (Comment 18) : I can’t imagine supporting any other team but the Sharks, it would suck. (WP did win the CC fewer years ago than we did)

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.10.08 14:55:37 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Ragged (Comment 19) : I must agree with you, this is a brilliant article and what makes it even more great is that it gives me more confidence and some of the calmness I need for the final.

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.10.08 14:59:14 by Letgo Reply
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  • …or rather semi final.

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.10.08 14:59:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 9) : We had our boks the previous game, and the game before. In fact, there is only one change (at lock) from the side that beat the Lions a couple fo weeks ago!

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.10.08 15:03:32 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 23) : Sorry I didn’t make that comment clear, I meant the first CC in a long time. I think it’s been 3 or 4 years now since the Sharks went into a Cup play off with a full strength side.

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.10.08 15:06:55 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 24) :

    And WHAT a side!!! :grin:

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.10.08 15:11:14 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 22) : I think you were right the first time :wink:

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.10.08 15:11:26 by Ragged Reply

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  • @Ice Sharkadelic Babe (Comment 25) :

    Dis lekker om ‘n Sharkie te IS!! te IS!!… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.10.08 15:11:47 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 23) : The worst memory that I have was the Final in 99 against Transvaal, it was the last match that Gary, Juba, Henry, Cabous and Garvey were playing for the Sharks.Our U19 and U 21 had also qualified for the finals.
    We forget that we had to play, and thought that by just turning up and running onto the field taht we would win. :cry: :cry: :cry: The rest as they say is history!

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.10.08 15:35:49 by Ragged Reply

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  • hello mensies.

    so, i just saw that earl rose has been named at fullback for the lions. last line of defence, heh heh, lets get dangerous.

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.10.08 15:42:30 by knersboy Reply

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  • @Ragged (Comment 28) : was that not the game that AJ Venter destroyed us?

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.10.08 15:47:31 by knersboy Reply

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  • @knersboy (Comment 30) : it was indeed

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.10.08 16:00:49 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @knersboy (Comment 30) : I was trying to forget, two weeks alter we were trying to sign him…..

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.10.08 16:07:27 by Ragged Reply

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  • @Ice Sharkadelic Babe (Comment 16) : :shock:

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.10.08 16:09:31 by PJLD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 31) : @Ragged (Comment 32) : i hated him that game, soo much.

    I realised the other day that since i have been with my old lady (june 96) the sharks have not won a single trophy (okay, they won in october 96, but we weren’t really that serious yet).

    so i figure she must be a jinx. i told her the same, she was not impressed.

    anyway, because i am such a team man i have decided that for this years cc semis and finals we are getting separated.

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.10.08 16:20:49 by knersboy Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 33) :

    Its funny, hey?? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Cheers everyone!

  • Comment 35, posted at 09.10.08 16:26:03 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • @knersboy (Comment 34) : big of you!

  • Comment 36, posted at 09.10.08 16:32:11 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 36) : yap, take on for the team.

    okay people, enjoy your evening, i am off. time to race stellenbosch car traffic home on my fixed wheel singlespeed bicycle, lets get dangerous!

  • Comment 37, posted at 09.10.08 16:33:59 by knersboy Reply

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  • @Ice Sharkadelic Babe (Comment 35) : cheers Ice

  • Comment 38, posted at 09.10.08 16:40:17 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @knersboy (Comment 37) : take it easy out there, big guy

  • Comment 39, posted at 09.10.08 16:41:09 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @knersboy (Comment 34) : And if we still loose you will have to go the whole hog and get divorced.

  • Comment 40, posted at 09.10.08 16:45:26 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Ice Sharkadelic Babe (Comment 35) : More strange than funny.Then again i splashed on a Polar HR and that bugger doesn’t have a stopwatch.

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.10.08 16:45:38 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 41) : how much did you splash?

  • Comment 42, posted at 09.10.08 17:03:48 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • WE FLY TOGETHER – WE FIGHT TOGETHER – WE ARE THE SHARKS!!!!!

    Man i cant wait for saturdays game!!!.
    I love the rumours that is going on that we are going to choke again this year because look what happened last year, bla bla bla…i heard it all before.

    Now its our time and we are going to enjoy this one for sure!!!.

    No more dust in the cabinets boys the cup is coming home!!!.

    To all the sharks boys,good luck and give them hell boys!!!.

    From: The Shark.

  • Comment 43, posted at 09.10.08 20:30:31 by The Shark Reply

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  • @The Shark (Comment 43) : That’s the spirit, buddy!

  • Comment 44, posted at 09.10.08 20:50:31 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 20) : Letgo, you can be funny too? Or was that ” but since I was still just a um…(what’s the female version of laaitie?)…” part an accident? :lol:

    However, I think lass would do nicely, or to be more colour full you can say “a wee lass”.

  • Comment 45, posted at 10.10.08 05:51:43 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • I agree that this year’s team are somewhat stronger, but that is mainly on the bench. Let’s face it Rob, that was also a pretty good team at the time. For me the difference will be in the execution of their skills under play-off pressure. And it pretty much comes down to the coaching staff.

    I am not convinced yet about Plumtree. May he make an believer of me.

    Now do not get me wrong here, I think the Sharks SHOULD cruise to a victory if they can absorb the first twenty minutes well.

  • Comment 46, posted at 10.10.08 06:04:08 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • TSJARKS TSJARKS TSJARKS!!!!

  • Comment 47, posted at 10.10.08 07:28:20 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @ all the shark supporters……WE ARE BLACK,WE ARE WHITE,WE ARE DYNAMITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 48, posted at 10.10.08 08:31:33 by craig Reply

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  • @craig (Comment 48) :

    Yellow belly perch?

  • Comment 49, posted at 10.10.08 08:46:35 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • 8 changes?

    Wow, that is a lot of guys that know how to lose knock-out games!

  • Comment 50, posted at 10.10.08 10:09:15 by MorneN Reply
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  • @The Shark (Comment 43) :

    You must have heard it a lot in the last 12 years!

  • Comment 51, posted at 10.10.08 10:10:31 by MorneN Reply
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  • Man its nice being able to choke – as opposed to sitting on the sidelines fishing….. :lol:

  • Comment 52, posted at 10.10.08 10:15:33 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 52) :

    You will choke on my fish!

  • Comment 53, posted at 10.10.08 10:17:16 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 53) : :shock:

  • Comment 54, posted at 10.10.08 10:24:15 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @MorneN (Comment 50) : who are you supporting now? I mean, since Province is out again :)

  • Comment 55, posted at 10.10.08 10:27:42 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • Sharks all the way!

    I just find it quite funny how most Sharks supporters are looking to cling onto anything in the hope history does not repeat itself!

    But I am going with the Sharks.

  • Comment 56, posted at 10.10.08 10:36:00 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 56) : it’s a triumph of hope over experience…

  • Comment 57, posted at 10.10.08 10:38:21 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 57) :

    Hahah

  • Comment 58, posted at 10.10.08 10:41:59 by MorneN Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 56) :

    If you dont have hope…you have nothing… :wink:

  • Comment 59, posted at 10.10.08 10:45:27 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • @Ice Sharkadelic Babe (Comment 59) : I put up a thread just for you

  • Comment 60, posted at 10.10.08 10:53:21 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 53) :
    Ja, us Sharkies often bite off more than we can chew – hopefully that sentence can be written in the past tense soon.

  • Comment 61, posted at 10.10.08 10:59:40 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 60) :

    I saw that! :grin:

  • Comment 62, posted at 10.10.08 11:01:27 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • @Ice Sharkadelic Babe (Comment 62) : trust you are composing your contribution as we speak? ;)

  • Comment 63, posted at 10.10.08 11:08:34 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 56) :

    Nah bud… we’re looking to the future not living in the past…

    (I don’t blame you for that WP mind-set though)…

  • Comment 64, posted at 10.10.08 11:14:12 by bryce_in_oz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (Comment 63) :

    You bet! Go check it out! :lol:

  • Comment 65, posted at 10.10.08 11:20:30 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • Interesting post, hope the big differences equate to a cracking wing for the Sharks.

  • Comment 66, posted at 10.10.08 13:59:22 by billy Reply

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  • @billy (Comment 66) : damn straight – I think it will

  • Comment 67, posted at 10.10.08 14:05:33 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 45) : It was no accident, glad you found it funny. :smile:

  • Comment 68, posted at 10.10.08 15:40:34 by Letgo Reply
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