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SANZAR at a stalemate on Super 14 top six play off

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Super 14 on 28 Oct 2008 at 07:16

The format for the Super 14 remains in doubt as SANZAR officials cannot agree on what format they want the tournament to be played under.

The Super14 website reports that this also means that teams cannot complete their planning as the dates cannot be finalised.

They (three SANZAR nations -South Africa, New Zealand and Australia ) all agree that a six team play off should be adopted but they cannot agree on how the top six teams should qualify.

South Africa want to guarantee a place in the playoffs for each nation’s top-ranked side and for that team to have a home playoff.

This means that if one country’s top tam finished outside the top six they would still qualify for the play off and would they would host that play off.

New Zealand and Australia believe that a top six should be just that but South Africa are keen to introduce the more complex conference-style route in order to guarantee themselves a presence in the latter stages of the competition.

We’re at an impasse,” NZRU chief executive Steve Tew told the Sunday Star Times.

Adding to the problem Tew admitted New Zealand’s relationship with Australia is tense after they started contracting players from New Zealand.

In last week’s Sunday Star-Times, Tew said New Zealand would return serve if the practice continued. This week he took things a step further, saying: “We don’t want to go to war with Australia but we have told them we have a bigger war chest than they do.”

A Sunday Star-Times source in Australia said on Saturday the comment had been “noted”, adding: “But I don’t think it will change much. New Zealand is as dependent on us as much as they are on South Africa.”

Sanzar is not run on a majority-rules basis which means that if two nations agree and the other does not they cannot over-rule the third party. All three must agree on any changes.

Another problem looming for SANZAR is that they cannot agree on the proposed expansion for 2010.


  • I admire SARU for not letting Aus and NZ walk all over them for a change but I think they are being a little rediculous with their expectations.

    How on earth can you expect the other nations to accept a proposal where a team that finishes 8th from one country gets to play in the play offs ahead of a team from another nation that ended 3rd?

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.10.08 07:20:58 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : Bollocks.

    Who wants to qualify as the better losers?

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.10.08 08:35:51 by just blackshark Reply
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  • @just blackshark (Comment 2) :

    And frankly I think SARU’s stance can be seen as a slap in the face to The Sharks and the Bulls.

    Do they not think any of the SA sides will qualify in the top 6 on merit?

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.10.08 09:04:48 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Comment 4, posted at 28.10.08 14:47:41 by JustPlainSHARK Reply
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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 4) :

    Hey Darren, Welcome. :wink:

    No need to shout :wink:

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.10.08 14:51:52 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : agreed, why don’t we just go bacwards and have a super 6 with a home and away game for each team. that is almost what saru are asking for.

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.10.08 14:52:28 by try time Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : yeah in the last three years two sa teams have been in the top six.

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.10.08 14:53:28 by try time Reply
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  • SARU are a bunch of clowns. That’s all I have to say on this matter.

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.10.08 20:01:10 by klempie Reply
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  • Actually it is not such a bad idea.
    In ’07 the total attendance for the semis + final was about 160k. In ’08 it was 62k.
    Sanzar is leaving huge amounts of money on the table by hosting most play-off games in NZ.

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.10.08 01:39:47 by fyndraai Reply
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  • I see the only year a SA team was not in the top 6 was 2002. In 2003 the bulls made 6th place.

    SA rugby as a whole was piss-poor then and here we have a bunch of idiot fans blaming Rudolf Strauli for how the boks performed.

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.10.08 01:49:33 by fyndraai Reply
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  • SANZAR has adopted the demanding without deserving attitude. Stop being pathetic and focus your energies to get your teams in the top six. :evil:

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.10.08 06:07:37 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 11) :

    Do you mean “SARU has adopted………” :wink:

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.10.08 07:03:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : Yeah, right. Hehehe, even I make mistakes. :oops:

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.10.08 07:10:02 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 13) :

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.10.08 07:37:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 10) : rudolph was the figurehead of what saru stood for back then. you had brian van zyl, and a bunch of dithering fools running around scooping what they could. sa had the players, but we were stuck with a bunch of egotists like rudolph and brian doing their own thing while rugby suffered. we have definately come a long way from those dark days. and we still have a long way to go.

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.10.08 08:16:47 by try time Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) :

    is this Darren as in “on vie awwer hand Darren” ?? :shock: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.10.08 16:11:20 by Ice Sharkadelic Babe Reply
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  • @Ice Sharkadelic Babe (Comment 16) :

    :lol: No i was just teasing the guy coz of his nick. :wink:

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.10.08 18:24:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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