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Vermeulen joins the navy blues


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Stormers, WP on 3 Nov 2008 at 10:40
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One of SA rugby’s longest and worst-kept secrets has finally been revealed. Cheetahs loose forward Duane Vermeulen will play for the Stormer and Western Province next season.

Daniel Johannes Vermeulen, born and bred in Nelspruit, first made a name for himself playing for the unfancied Mpumulanga Pumas, before being snapped up by Free State in 2007. He quickly established himself as a key member of an outstanding loose trio, together with Bok Juan Smith and the highly-talented Heinrich Brüssow. Speculation about the 22-year-old’s future has been rife, since he turned down offers from both the Cheetahs and the Sharks earlier this year.

Stormers boss Rassie Erasmus has confirmed that Vermeulen has been signed as a specialist number 8 and that he will, injury and form allowing, be the Stormers’ first choice in this position in 2009. This presumably draws a line under controversial Luke Watson’s first team involvement in Cape Town, hardly surprising given his recent dilemma. The most likely courses of action open to Watson now would be either a move overseas, or perhaps a stint back with Eastern Province, where his old man looks set to take over the running of the perennially sinking ship that is the Mighty Elephants.

The acquisition of Vermeulen really does nicely round out the loose forward option available to Erasmus. Schalk Burger and the impressive young Pieter Myburgh (and Watson, of he stays) provide ample openside options, while Vermeulen, Francois Louw and Nick Koster will slug it out for the other two jerseys. Let’s not forget that AJ Venter and Hilton Lobberts are both also in the mix, with Pieter Louw, Conraad Britz and even Justin Melck providing further options. In fact, WP’s biggest problem now will (as always) be persuading their young talent to stay in the system, rather than seeking opportunities elsewhere.

I’ll bet the Natal chequebooks, in particular, will be waved very enticingly under Koster’s nose…



45 Comments

  • Next purchse = Doc Jannie

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.11.08 10:47:11 by PJLD Reply
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  • How do you get to Duane from Daniel Johannes?

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.11.08 10:51:23 by McLovin Reply

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  • Guys, colleague of mine says that a Euro club are busy with negotiations with Frans Steyn. Sharks r said to profit R2mill IF the move goes ahead. Any truth in it? Please rest my concearn!

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.11.08 11:20:29 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : :lol:

    Rob-It would make a lot of sense for Koster to move to the East Coast.

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.11.08 11:20:56 by chernaya akula - BS Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 3) :

    They can negotiate all they like but I don’t see Frans moving to Europe right now…

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.11.08 11:23:24 by chernaya akula - BS Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 3) : I heard there was some big money being offered for the young man. But nothing confirmed yet. Certainly don’t think the Sharks would want to lose him. But money talks.

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.11.08 11:26:41 by McLovin Reply

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  • So Vermeulen 1st choice no. 8. Koster 2nd choice?

    The Schalk 1st choice openside flank. 2nd – Watson?

    Doubt AJ would make the side. Is fight club Lobberts a 6 or 7?

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.11.08 11:30:27 by McLovin Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 3) : nah – it’s bullshit.

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.11.08 11:31:37 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 7) : Lobberts is a liability…

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.11.08 11:32:06 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 8) : and the reason I say that is because Steyn knows if he signs for an overseas club, he’ll be bringing down the curtain on his international career. At 21? He’s not going to do that.

    Anyway, he is still under contract in Durban until at least the end of 2009 and there’s no way he’ll be released, given that we’ve already let Barritt go.

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.11.08 11:33:30 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 10) : Phew Rob, hope it stays at bulshit, but i’m worried that the exuberance of youth might make him make the wrong decision. Coz of Jean dV. He MUST be given the Sharks 12 jersey on a permanent basis. But if they negotiate, it must mean that he’s considering.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.11.08 12:24:39 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 11) :
    I’m pretty sure that he has people who help him not to make wrong decisions on and off the field. :smile:

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.11.08 12:34:09 by chernaya akula - BS Reply

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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 9) : He does seem like a bit of a loose cannon. :roll:

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.11.08 12:43:02 by McLovin Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 11) : well, of course he’d be tempted. I mean, if you’re 21 and somebody offers you a contract for £300k a year, or whatever, you’d be mad not to at least consider it. But Frans must surely know that he’s guaranteed starting rugby for virtually the whole Super 14 next year, in the number 12 shirt, if not at flyhalf.

    @chernaya akula – BS (Comment 12) : Problem with advisers (i.e. agents) is, it’s in their interests for the player to be wherever he’s going to make the most money.

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.11.08 12:44:08 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 14) : I was thinking more about someone who can smack him at the back of his head…like a father… :smile:

    He has at least 2 more World Cups left…and then he can think about the money.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.11.08 12:55:19 by chernaya akula - BS Reply

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  • guys – it’s silly season and the Sharks are riding high. We should expect to hear a story or a rumour every single day now about some-or-other high profile Sharks player looking at leaving. It’s all jealousy; small-minded people trying to break down what they know they can’t beat.

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.11.08 13:02:30 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • Rassie will no doubt bring the best out of Lobberts.

    Just like he brought out the best in JDV, Bobo, Januarie…etc…should I continue??? :mrgreen:

    Now if only we can buy a few decent props as well as Adi Jacobs… :roll:

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.11.08 13:55:28 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 17) : tell you what, in Krtizinger ant Blaauw you have two pretty decent young’uns…

    in fact, the Province tight five depth actually isn’t looking too shit at all, although you need another hooker. You should get rid of Brits (tell him to go play centre) and get someone else as backup to Fourie. Moller, Mujati, Kritzinger and Blaauw are all fine at prop… just get rid of Broken Harris and Schalk Ferreira. You’ll need one other good utility prop, I reckon. Lock is also ok, with Fondse, Bekker and Venter. Perhaps another good 5 is needed…

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.11.08 14:08:08 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 18) : “although you need another hooker.” That other laaitie is not too kak at all

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.11.08 14:21:01 by PJLD Reply
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  • Oh snap i see you mentioned Fourie,need to start reading the comments properly.

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.11.08 14:21:58 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 20) : can I suggest an RSS reader? :)

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.11.08 14:25:08 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • I know we have some decent props coming through. Mujati and Moller will probably be first choice with Blaauw and Kritzinger as back up.

    Brits is a showpony!!! :evil:

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.11.08 14:50:33 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 22) : so we agree :)

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.11.08 14:56:33 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 23) :

    Ja, surprisingly…

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.11.08 15:18:30 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 24) : it won’t last. I still think WP suck :)

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.11.08 15:26:05 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • The problem when you keep buying new players is that you will never have a settled side. You chop and change and you need combinations to grow over time. You also don’t want to send out a signal that there is no real progression plan in the province when you do this.

    The Sharks bought in wisely a few years back, and although there were a few duds, we also got the likes of Bismarck, Ruan, Odwa and Jacques, more than 25% of our current starting line-up.

    Western Province strike me as a team willing to spend money and buy the best, without realising that the best individuals don’t necessarily make the best team.

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.11.08 15:29:36 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 26) : Very true

    I think we should give the likes of Koster, Fourie and the U21′s a chance instead of buying players like Wylie Human, AJ and De Waal…

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.11.08 15:55:21 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 27) : I agree with you.

    Man, I hope Rassie doesn’t try and introduce de Waal as the Stormers’ flyhalf saviour during the Super 14…

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.11.08 16:04:05 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 28) : HE WOULDN’T :neutral:

  • Comment 29, posted at 03.11.08 16:20:26 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 29) : hey – you never know. They’re big gatgabbas, those two

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.11.08 16:32:36 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • Im actually glad Willem is around for a bit of stability but they better not try and make me believe he is going to turn our fortunes around.

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.11.08 16:48:17 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 31) : who’s going to be first choice at outside centre? Bobs again? Or will the errant Fijian be there?

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.11.08 17:01:11 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • I reckon Fiji will be on the wing with Bobes having the inside track for the 13 jersey.

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.11.08 17:26:12 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 33) : makes sense, I guess… not a huge amount of Super-14 quality depth out wide, is there?

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.11.08 17:34:14 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 34) : Apparently not

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.11.08 17:40:57 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 35) : maybe you can use some of the loosies as wings?

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.11.08 17:48:21 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • Guess who I met in bangkok at the Weekend? :grin: :cool:

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.11.08 17:55:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) :

    About 60 Burgers with large fries. :wink:

    Does Rassie realise that when people say “The OFS is a prop factory” that is DOESN’T mean you can just turn ANY flat lander into a prop?

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.11.08 17:58:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 37) :
    A girl with an Adam’s apple? :twisted:

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.11.08 18:02:57 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 39) :

    :lol: :lol:

    Personal Details
    Full Name Roelof
    Nick Name Joggie
    Surname Viljoen
    Height 173cm
    Weight 85kg
    Birth Date 22 July 1976
    Birth City Port Elizabeth
    Primary School Sunridge
    Secondary School Framesby High, Port Elizabeth

    Position: Scrumhalf

    Club:
    Province: Western Province (1996)
    Springbok number: 644
    Springbok debut: 5 November 1996 vs Rosario in Rosario aged 20
    Last tour match: 3 December 1996 vs French Universities in Lille aged 20
    Total tests: 0
    Tour matches: 3
    Total Springbok matches: 3
    Tours: Argentina, France & Wales, 1996
    Son of Joggie Viljoen

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.11.08 18:04:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 39) :

    I think they are called, boys with boobs rather than girls with adam’s apples. :smile:

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.11.08 18:05:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I DID buy a Thai Rugby Union polo from one in a mall though. :razz:

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.11.08 18:07:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) :
    Joggie, son of Joggie? T’is be a noble name indeed – marked for greatness was the lad.

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) :
    Girls’ with apples sounds about right. :lol:

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.11.08 18:12:08 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 43) : no kidding, I remember the huge fanfare when the lad started playing. Never amounted to a row of beans, as I recall.

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.11.08 18:14:15 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 44) :

    He is playing for Manawatu in NZ now, been there since 2006 and will in all likelyhood retire at the end of this season.

    He is 32 and says he is a bit old now.

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.11.08 18:25:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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