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Smit happy but Rogers not impressed


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 8 Nov 2008 at 07:06

South Africa captain John Smit has downplayed the significance of his positional switch from hooker to tighthead prop for the international against Wales here on Saturday.

Rugby 365 reports that with prop CJ van der Linde overlooked for the three-Test tour since he plays for Irish province Leinster, and the Springbok squad including Bismarck du Plessis and Chiliboy Ralepelle as hookers, Smit finds himself lining up against Gethin Jenkins at the Millennium Stadium.

“With all that’s been said, read and written, I suppose it’s inevitable that the whole week has had little to do with rugby between two countries but more with me moving positions,” Smit said on Friday.

“Luckily enough, we’ve stuck with what works and what the team has to do on Saturday and that’s all that’s important for us.”

Asked whether he would be starting at prop or hooker come the first Test against the British and Irish Lions tour to South Africa in the summer, Smit was non-committal.

“I suppose that’s a question that will be answered in three weeks’ time” at the tour’s conclusion, he said with a smile.

One former player who was not impressed by Smit’s selection at prop was former South Africa-born Wales tighthead Peter Rogers.

Rogers won 18 caps for Wales, including their only Test success over the Springboks, a 29-19 win in the Millennium Stadium’s inaugural match in June 1999.

But he has also propped against Smit in their youth rugby days in South Africa.

“In 1994 I played against John when he was a tight-head and unless things have changed dramatically Gethin Jenkins has a real opportunity,” Rogers told BBC.

“John was part of the Natal development team and I was part of the Transvaal development team.

“I know for a fact he started his career as a tight-head prop and switched to hooker, so that says enough in itself.

“They’ve looked at him and he’s a big, powerful lad – he’s probably fantastic in the gym, fantastic on the track and well-conditioned.

“But to be a tight-head prop you need more than that.

“It’s an ideal opportunity to attack, with the scrum being used as a weapon these days they’ve got a fantastic opportunity to go for the South African pack.”

But Wales forward coach Robin McBryde, who won 37 caps as Welsh hooker, was also keen to play down the pressure Smit would be under.

“We’ll find out if he can scrummage, but tight-head is not too disimilar from hooker. He’s next to a very strong scrummaging hooker in Du Plessis and has a very experienced back five behind him.

“If he wasn’t confident, I’m sure he wouldn’t have agreed to play there.

“It’s obviously it’s something they’re working on to get him and Du Plessis into the team.”

Smit said the Wales game, which will be followed by back-to-back Tests against Scotland and England, was a “big challenge and certainly a massive start”.

Wales “have had a good season so far, winning the Six Nations. They’ve got lots of confidence, big belief in the coaching staff and camaraderie among the side, as well as having game breakers, including two nominated as IRB player of the year”.

But South Africa arrived as world champions, he said, and expectations of his side were “just reward for hard work”.



32 Comments

  • former South Africa-born Wales tighthead Peter Rogers.

    Errrrm NO!

    Full Name: Peter John Daniel Rogers
    Date Of Birth: 20/01/1969 (39)
    Place Of Birth: Maidstone (England)
    Height: 180cm / 5’11″
    Weight: 116kg / 256lbs / 18st 4lbs

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.11.08 07:09:03 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) :

    That’s according to SARU, Newport and the Wales Websites.

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.11.08 07:10:26 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • In 1994 I played against John when he was a tight-head and unless things have changed dramatically Gethin Jenkins has a real opportunity,” Rogers told BBC

    Peter Rogers
    Date of Birth: 20th Jan 1969

    John Smit
    Birth Date 3 April 1978

    At the prime age of 25 he propped against a boy of 16. If he wants to use that as a fair judge of John’s skills at TH then so be it.

    Personnally I would call him a bully rather :wink:

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.11.08 07:21:07 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I agree with “If he wasn’t confident, I’m sure he wouldn’t have agreed to play there.”

    John is not stupid, he would not agree to do something he thought cannot work. I saw him and Jannie du Plessis trotting next to each other during some practice session and believe me, both those boys have legs like tree trunks.

    IMO John is certainly powerful enough and also gifted enough to make the switch.

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.11.08 08:11:17 by Silver Fox Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :
    :shock:
    So either Peter is a complete buffoon or a asshole.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.11.08 08:16:07 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 5) : Actually, he’s just a liar. John was still in Form 3 at Boys High in 94. He may have played SA schools that year, but he sure as hell didn’t play for Natal at that stage

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.11.08 08:34:09 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 6) :
    So both then? :lol:

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.11.08 08:38:28 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 6) :

    Maybe Rogers suffers from lack of blood to the brain after having had to stop the circulation everytime they removed his from his arse.

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.11.08 09:24:18 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 7) : Correct!

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) : tank lanning syndrome

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.11.08 09:49:42 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • What a tool.gents there is an insane amount of top rugger today

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.11.08 09:53:28 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 10) :

    ALMOST to much :smile:

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.11.08 10:01:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • What?im starting now,watching sa vs argies game

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.11.08 10:05:16 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 12) :

    If only It wasn’t the Start of my week :sad:

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.11.08 10:28:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • PJLD, I am looking for a good place to get some crab or lobster tails – holler on my mobile if you can help.

    So far I have a place in Salt River to go to – on my way now.

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.11.08 11:20:03 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 14) :
    This begs a question to be asked.
    But seeing you are a man of the law it cant be asked.

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.11.08 12:26:20 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • D,my sim is in xtals phone at the moment so i dont have yor number.use the salt river connection because what u are looking 4 is hard to get this time of year

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.11.08 12:29:13 by PJLD Reply
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  • You guys are too hard on Rogers. Rather see the positives ie that John Smit was one f#$*ing talented 16 year old to be playing for the Natal development team (probably straight after a Boys High game against Affies) and that the Shark scouts were amazing in identifying talent from a very early age.

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.11.08 12:33:05 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 15) : :neutral:

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.11.08 12:33:25 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 15) :
    Please ask it, cos I am confused?

    Is it illegal to eat selfish on a Saturday?

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.11.08 12:36:08 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 16) :
    Shot dude.

    Went to “Fish for Africa”.

    Pretty cool selection – 3 tails R170, but decided to go for some local grab at R40 for a big bag – got a Durban aunty making some curry for tonight.

    Happy days!

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.11.08 12:37:17 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Get some monk fish if u can dude,has the same texture as crayfish and takes on flavours well.i think Salmy was hinting towards it being crayfish off season

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.11.08 12:54:49 by PJLD Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 19) :
    Was wondering if you were concerned if the tails had fallen out of a refrigerated vehicle at the robots or as they do on the South Coast – keep them alive in the long drops.

    “Is it illegal to eat selfish on a Saturday?” – if you are Jewish, probably.
    It should also be illegal to eat selfish on any night especially if an aunty from Durban is going to make the curry – I would pay good money for that priveledge. On such occassions you should throw your doors open with a huge banner inviting all Sharksworld bloggers in for a meal – much like Ice, Klempie and Nessa are doing.

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.11.08 12:56:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Alive in longdrops?dear gawd!

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.11.08 13:01:50 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 23) :
    Yep, and then when the Vaalies stop to buy them they are still moving -nice and fresh.
    To be honest I dont know if that is only an urban legend or if there is any truth in it.
    Chances are some poacher stashed jhis catch in a long drop while fleeing from the authorities and the story could go anywhere from there…

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.11.08 13:07:20 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I hope Smit murders the Welsh front row & scores a hat trick of tries.

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.11.08 13:08:26 by McLovin Reply

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  • @PJLD (Comment 21) :
    @Salmonoid (Comment 22) :
    Oh! :shock:

    Not into that scene.

    I’ll think of you guys while enjoying the curry! :lol:

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.11.08 13:08:44 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 26) :
    Cool
    Ill think of you enjoying your curry.
    Enjoy.

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.11.08 13:13:15 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I hate man flu!

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.11.08 13:15:18 by robdylan (CC Champ '08) Reply
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  • Damn that,im gona cook up some calamari

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.11.08 13:28:14 by PJLD Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 23) :

    YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing how on the south coast you find these guys holding up “fresh” LIVE crays on the side of the road and he is like 10k’s inland from the ocean :shock:

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.11.08 14:10:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 26) :

    Curry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm just takes me back to Bnagkok last week where I had this AWESOME pork Thai curry on my last evening there. :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.11.08 14:12:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (CC Champ ‘08) (Comment 28) :

    stronger or weaker than woman flu?

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.11.08 14:13:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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