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Heavyweight in Watson’s corner


Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news on 11 Nov 2008 at 06:37
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Controversial loose forward Luke Watson is not about to roll over and play dead in his battle with the South African Rugby Union.

The Cape Town-based Afrikaans daily, Die Burger, reports that Watson has acquired the services of a heavyweight advocate for the SARU disciplinary hearing he will be facing today.

Rugby365 reports that advocate Jeremy Gauntlett, described by a legal expert as “the top guy” and an “incredible orator”, will act for the Western Province loose forward.

The services of a legal man of such stature is believed to cost in the region of R30,000 per day – the newspaper said.

Gauntlett has previously represented former president Nelson Mandela.

Watson is in trouble over statements made last month at the Ubumbo Rugby Festival at the University of Cape Town.

Watson said he had to keep himself from vomiting on the Springbok jersey.

He also referred to Afrikaners as “Dutchmen”.

SARU appointed Dekker Govender as the judicial officer to investigate the issue.

Govender referred the case to the chairperson of SARU’s judicial committee, judge Lex Mpati, after finding that SARU’s code of conduct may have been violated.

The attorney Nape Dolamo has been appointed as judicial officer for Watson’s hearing.

The hearing is today at SA Rugby’s offices in Newlands.

Gauntlett has previously acted for Zimbabwe’s Movement For Democratic Change when they challenged President Robert Mugabe’s victory in the 2002 presidential elections.

He also represented the United Cricket Board during the King Commission’s inquiry following allegations of match-fixing involving former Proteas cricket skipper, the late Hansie Cronjé



50 Comments

  • Gauntlett is brilliant, make no mistake. But it would be naive to think that a good/ bad lawyer is gonna decide this one.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.11.08 08:18:31 by Big Fish Reply
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  • I was thinking about that when i heard this on the news this morning…not sure how these things work anyway…I hope he gets a nasty “judge”… :twisted:

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.11.08 08:29:55 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • I suspect regardless of who Watson has at his side, it s highly unlikely anyone is going to start thinking he’s a swell guy. They should fine him and send him back to the bottom of a ruck where justice will probably be meted out in a manner befitting the tosser.

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.11.08 08:39:18 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 1) : Won’t argue with you on this one…You’re the expert… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.11.08 08:40:49 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 3) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Well said!! And I like the way you think.. :wink: :lol:

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.11.08 08:41:00 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • Aai, you guys just don’t like Lukas cos he is an ‘honourary black’ :shock:

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.11.08 08:49:53 by wpw Reply
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  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.11.08 08:50:37 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 7) :

    Wa kruip jy nou weer uit?? :lol:

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.11.08 08:52:09 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • Heard on the radio that that Watson is mot planning on playing overseas and that he has apparently addressed his WP / Stormers teammates and smoothed over any problems that may have existed.

    Good news for all the WP / Stormers SA opponents.
    How to motivate the opposition – pick Luke in your team.

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.11.08 08:53:44 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 8) : hehehe

    Hey there Ice. :cool:

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.11.08 08:58:02 by wpw Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 3) :

    Maybe the no rucking rule was brought in to protect guys like Watson. :evil:

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.11.08 09:36:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • The Ideal ruling IMO would be a heafty fine for his conduct and then saying he can still play.

    And then just NOT pick him for any team.

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.11.08 09:37:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I think we’ve given him too much attention already. It’s obviously what he craves. Let’s just ignore him rather.

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.11.08 09:40:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) :

    After he has got his heafty fine then we can put up one more article on the outcome of the hearing and then let him fade into oblivion with whichever 1st Div. side he chooses.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.11.08 09:43:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 1) :
    Cochran decided a lot of outcomes. :twisted:

    @Salmonoid (Comment 9) : Good for him and the Stormers then. If the “fake” S14 schedule stands we play the Stormers in our opening fixture?

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : Don’t think it will be that hefty.

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.11.08 09:47:34 by Kamov Ka50 - blckshrk Reply

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  • @Kamov Ka50 – blckshrk (Comment 15) : I thought we was playing the Bulls first?

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.11.08 09:52:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : Just re-checked the draft on super14.com and they say they expect the games that were originally scheduled for Round 1 to move to the end. So it looks like we might start with the Stormers at Newlands and finish off with the Bulls in Durbs. The fixtures look a bit messed up.

    http://www.super14.com/fixtures/2009.asp

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.11.08 10:05:57 by Kamov Ka50 - blckshrk Reply

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  • @Kamov Ka50 – blckshrk (Comment 17) :

    That would be the sensible thing to do.

    As much as I would like it to happen it would just be plain nasty to expect the Tahs to have to travel to RSA twice.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.11.08 10:09:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Why does he bother, the country has already found him guilty… :roll: and it will stay that way, heavy weight lawyer and all. :twisted:

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.11.08 10:11:02 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 19) :
    Can’t wait to see him come against a certain heavyweight who goes by the name of Wolla! :twisted:

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.11.08 10:16:44 by Kamov Ka50 - blckshrk Reply

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  • I refuse to comment on any Puke blogs :twisted: :mad:

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.11.08 10:21:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Kamov Ka50 – blckshrk (Comment 20) : had a bit of a chuckle about him with Wolla…

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.11.08 10:30:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : Ha ha ha … poor Master Frodo. :lol:

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.11.08 10:41:16 by Kamov Ka50 - blckshrk Reply

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  • After the Luke Watson debacle regarding our rugby running by Dutchmen and transformation, Sarfu put a 5 year plan in place
    starting 2009

    Sarfu released the following set of new rules to be implemented for 2009 S14 Franchise:
    Cheetahs must chose at least 5 black players.
    Sharks must choose at least 5 indian players.
    Brutes must choose at least 5 english speaking players.
    Lions must choose at least 5 Jewish players.
    Stormers must choose at least 5 rugby players.

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.11.08 11:39:37 by PaarlBok Reply

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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 24) : classic :)

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.11.08 11:48:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • I cannot find anyhing on the Watson charges dropped thing… :evil:

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.11.08 12:07:02 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 26) : me neither… keeping my eyes peeled

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.11.08 12:15:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 26) :

    Same here, 702 has the trail as starting todfay with Puke’s agent saying Watson has smoothed things over with his team mates, and the SABC has the trial as going ahead.

    Time will tell.
    Maybe Gauntlett thinks he is Denny Crane. He just walks in and says “Jeremy Gauntlett” and the opposing team crumbles. :razz:

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.11.08 12:16:18 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) :
    I’m starting to wonder whether I heard correctly because I can find nothing out there.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.11.08 12:20:37 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 28) :

    :mrgreen: Boston Legal?? I love that program! :lol:

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.11.08 12:25:13 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • OK, confirmed, Watson is off the hook.

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.11.08 12:33:49 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 31) :

    kc*f… :evil: WHY??? for what reason??

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.11.08 12:35:59 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 32) :
    Still no detail. :twisted:

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.11.08 12:39:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) :

    Jy lieg vir my…!! :evil:

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.11.08 12:42:43 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 32) :

    Maybe this is why? :sad:

    What about Matfield, White and Krige?

    By Angela Quintal

    Controversial rugby forward Luke Watson’s legal team accused the South African Rugby Union on Tuesday of acting “inconsistently, selectively and arbitrarily” by deciding to discipline him while turning a blind eye to controversial comments made by other players, coaches and officials.

    They include former coach Jake White, current Bok coach Peter de Villiers, rugby boss Oregan Hoskins and players Victor Matfield and Corne Krige.

    “This disparity of treatment could not be more stark,” according to legal papers in his defence.

    Watson, who is represented by two top advocates, Jeremy Gauntlett SC and Matthew Blumberg, was to face a two-day hearing for alleged breach of Saru’s code of conduct.

    Saru will be represented by advocate Jeremy Muller SC.

    The defence team’s heads of argument in the Cape Argus’s possession challenges the charges against Watson on technical and substantive grounds, including that they violate his constitutional right to freedom of expression.

    Watson has also challenged the sections of the code which he is alleged to have breached, including that he brought rugby into disrepute or undermined its reputation, or that he “adversely affected that game and/or Saru and/or SA Rugby (Pty) Ltd.

    The charges are based on comments he is alleged to have made on October 3 at the University of Cape Town at a gathering which he claims was private, where he spoke about transformation.

    Saru is relying on a recording of the speech, which Watson also alleges was illegally taped and a violation of his right to privacy.

    A transcript of the tape includes the controversial statement of how, when he was included in the Bok team against then coach Jake White’s wishes last year, he felt like a “political pawn” and wanted to vomit on the Springbok jersey.

    It does not include the “Dutchmen” statement offensive to Afrikaners, which is said to have been made during a question-and-answer session after his speech.

    Watson’s legal team argued that the provisions in the code were broad and imprecise and could lead to “arbitrary enforcement”.

    For example, the legal team said, Hoskins had publicly accused former Saru deputy president Mike Stofile of “underhand electioneering” and had earlier this year told the National Assembly’s sports and recreation committee that national coach Peter de Villiers “was only the second-choice (coach) but was appointed with a transformation objective”.

    He later withdrew the comment and was reported to have admitted that he misled the parliamentary committee.

    His statements could conceivably have been viewed as having intended to undermine the reputation of the game and adversely affect it “to the extent the vague criteria have meaning”, the defence team argued.

    “No disciplinary proceedings were, however, preferred against Hoskins,” they argued.

    On White’s controversial auto-biography, the Bok coach had stated that “he couldn’t help feeling that he (Watson) seemed like a spy in the camp” and detailed how he and the other players did not think Watson had earned his place in the side.

    The defence noted that Hoskins had reportedly said “I think it is good for the public to hear Jake’s story. The more transparent rugby is, the better.”

    However, Saru had not extended the same courtesy to Watson.

    Another example of inconsistency was when then captain Corne Krige, in 2004, was quoted as accusing rugby administrators of “just riding the gravy train”.

    While Saru initiated disciplinary proceedings against Krige, it did not persist with the charges.

    Earlier in the year Stofile was reported as having slammed De Villiers’ appointment of John Smit as Bok captain, bemoaning the fact that the leadership of SA Rugby had not been consulted.

    The defence said that after what Watson had allegedly said was published, Springbok Victor Matfield called the statement “despicable”.

    “Both Stofile and Matfield’s remarks were inflammatory and divisive. Saru acted against neither,” the defence said.

    “The conclusion from the above is that Saru enforces its code inconsistently, selectively and arbitrarily.

    The defence team argued that the national discourse concerning transformation in rugby – and the future of the Springbok emblem in particular – “falls pre-eminently within the policy recognised by section 116 of the Constitution to encourage a free exchange of opinions on matters of public interest”.

    The defence team wants the charges against Watson to be dismissed and for Saru to be ordered to pay his legal costs, including for two counsel.

    This article was originally published on page 1 of Cape Argus on November 11, 2008

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.11.08 12:46:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Ruling on Watson’s case

    By By Angela Quintal

    Charges against controversial loose forward Luke Watson has been dismissed, after the South African Rugby Union failed to show that the presiding officer in the matter had the authority to hear the case in the first place.

    The contention was the first ground of Watson’s defence at Tuesday’s disciplinary hearing into controversial comments the Bok flanker reportedly made at the Ubumbo Rugby Club at UCT last month.

    The hearing lasted 90 minutes, with the presiding officer, attorney Nape Dolamo, agreeing with Watson’s legal counsel, Jeremy Gauntlett SC and Matthew Blumberg.

    Watson’s father, Cheeky, told IOL the way Saru had targeted his son was “madness”

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.11.08 12:52:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • South African Rugby Union failed to show that the presiding officer in the matter had the authority to hear the case

    the presiding officer, attorney Nape Dolamo, agreeing with Watson’s legal counsel,

    :lol:

    Dolamo: Hey I didn’t ask for this job, in fact I don’t even think I belong here either…… Who else is taking the rest of the afternoon off?

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.11.08 12:54:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • It took them 90min to show that the presiding officer in the matter didn’t have the authority to hear the case in the first place? :shock: :?:

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.11.08 12:56:12 by McLovin Reply

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  • Who has the authority?

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.11.08 12:57:09 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 39) :

    Somebody other than the dude who was there it seems.

    SARU DO really know how to lose court battles.

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.11.08 12:59:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) : So who then dismissed the charges? And did that person have the authority to do so? :twisted:

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.11.08 13:00:01 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) : Pathetic…i reckon they were paid to act like fools.. :evil:

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.11.08 13:00:59 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 41) :

    Read my comment 37. The dude is taking the afternoon off. :razz:

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.11.08 13:01:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 41) :

    And how could they dismiss and not just postpone untill the have an aothorised person to do the blady job?? I am P’d.. :evil:

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.11.08 13:02:29 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 44) : That’s what I was thinking.

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.11.08 13:04:30 by McLovin Reply

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  • This is enough to make you want to puke. :twisted:

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.11.08 13:09:17 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 44) : let it go… pursuing the matter any further will just turn the little so-and-so into a martyr, which is what he craves in the first place. They should never have pursued this anyway. They should have just quietly sidelined him for “rugby reasons”

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.11.08 13:10:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ok – I need help…

    Nee to print slides on notes pages – but everytime i do this in th epreview the slide dissapears…

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.11.08 13:17:10 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 48) : Sorry, I’m no good with anything technical.

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.11.08 13:41:22 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 49) :

    I fixed it before…but i just cannot remember how to do this again… :evil:

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.11.08 13:42:59 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
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