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Eng v SA: Springbok Player Ratings

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 23 Nov 2008 at 07:08
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South Africa handed England their biggest defeat ever at Twickenham, a 42-6 hammering on Saturday. It is also South Africa’s second biggest win ever over England.

But how did the individuals perform?

Rugby 365′s Paul Dobson rates the Springbok players:

15 Conrad Jantjes
Charged kick could have been expensive but by and large he was solid and calm and looked for chances to attack.

14 JP Pietersen
His defensive work was outstanding and on attack he made the try for Adi Jacobs.

13 Adi Jacobs
That try! and he nearly made another, and he certainly can defend.

12 Jean de Villiers
Great defence but should perhaps have made more of his attacking opportunity.

11 Bryan Habana
Much, much, much better even though it was mainly on defence, but it was outstanding defence.

10 Ruan Pienaar
His calm is preternatural, his skills remarkable.

9 Ricky Januarie
A couple of cracks under pressure but he manages to snap up unconsidered trifles and twice saved on defence.

8 Pierre Spies
Some strong moments

7 Danie Rossouw
Some strong moments.

6 Schalk Burger
Here, there and everywhere as always and more in control than usual

5 Victor Matfield
He won the important line-outs and made a great contribution in general play.

4 Bakkies Botha
Zestful determination.

3 Jannie du Plessis
Scrummed well and was intent on his job. Tackles insecure?

2 John Smit
Outstanding in play and leadership.

1 Tendai Mtawarira
Scrummed well and tackled well but four penalties is too much.

Replacements: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Brian Mujati, 18 Andries Bekker, 19 Ryan Kankowski, 20 Heinrich Brüssow, 21 Frans Steyn, 22 Jaque Fourie.


  • bakkies a 6?

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.11.08 07:22:47 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • @PJLD (Comment 1) :

    Yeah way to low IMO.

    Other than that I can’t REALLY fault the ratings.

    I do feel Vic got to high a score but that could be my bias shining through so I won’t say to much. :oops:

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.11.08 07:29:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • hehe vic did ok man

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.11.08 07:42:05 by PJLD Reply
    Clayton(PJLD)Team captain
  • I would have to disagree with a couple as well. I thought Jantjes was quite poor, forgetting the yellow card even which was nominal.

    Beast was everywhere, his huge work rate was always going to result in penalties. I was disappointed in Jannie, but Spies was similarly poor in one on one defense. In fact, he was poor at the back of the scrum and I don’t recall him offloading once when he had the ball. I really don’t understand the rationale behind continuing with him without giving Kanko a start. All moot now.

    I thought Januarie was a very lucky MOTM. The sign of a good 9 is ability and execution under pressure and I felt he failed. He was poor behind a retreating pack at the scrums, and once or twice he lost good ball at ruck time. Still not SA’s Number 1.

    Ruan made one or two errors, but overall, I thought he was excellent and is really growing in the position to the extend that I can’t see another South African to challenge him in the long term.

    I thought Schalk was excellent, Victor maybe not quite deserving of such a high rating. Smitty excellent, but the lineouts were a bit iffy at times, well done to England though for good challenging.

    Oh, thought Fourie came on and made a massive impact. Showed great hunger.

    Overall, I went into this game with worries that we wouldn’t win. To score the biggest margin of victory ever at Twickenham means we were doing something REALLY right.

    Well done Bokke, SMitty and PDV!

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.11.08 07:58:12 by Baldrick Reply

    BaldrickCurrie Cup player
  • @Baldrick (Comment 4) :

    Yeah our LOs were not as good as last week. but then our opposition was better this week. (well supposedly) Am not sure who to lay blame at (if any is actually needed) for the slightly less succesful LOs this week.

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.11.08 08:07:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • At the time of the game I was not really impressed with our play in general, lots of mistakes, but then suddenly the game is over and we’ve thumped them. Were we that great or were they that woesful?

    I think it came down to excellent defence on our side and some inexperience on theirs. Our pack certainly didn’t dominate at scrumtime, but we certainly put major pressure on them in the tackle.

    Was dissapointed to see JDV and Habana often out of defensive alignment trying to get intercepts. Puts a lot of pressure on team-mates.

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.11.08 08:13:48 by Baldrick Reply

    BaldrickCurrie Cup player
  • @Baldrick (Comment 4) :

    I don’t blame him… he has not played rugby since the CC… he should have been on tour with the Bok’s… there was absolutely no need for 4 wings…

    The man was visibly finished at one stage…

    Bakkies my MOM…

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.11.08 08:19:07 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 7) :

    Mind you I’d probably change that to John Smit…

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.11.08 08:19:43 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
  • @Baldrick (Comment 4) :

    Beast was everywhere and the increased presence will account for an increased Penalty count against him. I agree with that wholeheartedly.

    As for Jannie Dup? I am Bitterly dissappointed with his play. I never really noticed him on the field and had it stayed that way I may have said he was one of the anonymous grafters. BUT that halfhearted tackle I mentioned during the match and then the walking to the next ruck 5 seconds later should actually drop his ratings to a 4 IMO.

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.11.08 08:27:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • U guys should take a squizz at keo’s ratings. Most of the team received 7 or 8.

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.11.08 09:39:08 by wpw Reply
    wpwAssistant coach
  • @wpw (Comment 10) :
    I’ll post them here as a comparison.

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.11.08 09:47:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • Keo’s rating for the Backs:

    15 Conrad Jantjes (6) – Limited opportunities to attack, but looked threatening with ball in hand. Good positional play and his up and unders had the England back three sweating all afternoon.

    14 JP Pietersen (8) – His reading of the play on defence was excellent, often resulting in him making important stop tackles on the ball carriers who had numbers on the outside. Also scrambled to make a hit on Ugo Monye that saved a try at a crucial period in the Test. Few opportunities to run at the defence, but made his presence felt on a set play in the second half, where he ran a great line and dished off to Adi Jacobs for the Boks’ third try.

    13 Adi Jacobs (7) – Jacobs capped a fine year with another flawless, if not spectacular, display, particularly on defence, where he punched above his weight a number of times. Cut through the defensive line to score the nail-in-the-coffin try (his 6th in 11 Tests in 2008).

    12 Jean de Villiers (7) – Made a try-saving hit on Paul Sackey in the second half and it was indeed his defensive performance that was the best facet of his play today.

    11 Bryan Habana (7) – A good performance to end the season. And while he scored a late try to break a much publicised drought, it was his work-rate on defence that was the outstanding feature of his game. His overall demeanour was much more positive than it has been at any stage on tour and hopefully he’ll carry this confidence into 2009.

    10 Ruan Pienaar (7) – Made the half break that set up Danie Rossouw’s try and charged down Danny Cipriani’s kick and collected the loose ball to score one of his own. Very good overall – distributed well and his tactical kicking was accurate for the most part. Outshone the much vaunted England flyhalf Danny Cipriani. Oh, and he never missed a kick, sinking six from six.

    9 Ricky Januarie (8) – Very, very good. Defended with his usual mongrel, but to limit the positives to just that would be grossly unfair on Januarie. Was allowed to clear rucks quickly for most of the match thanks in large part to efficient ruck cleaning. More importantly, kicked well, taking pressure off Ruan Pienaar in this regard.

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.11.08 09:49:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • Keo’s rating for the forwards:

    8 Pierre Spies (7) – His best match on tour. Carried the ball powerfully and tacked relentlessly.

    7 Danie Rossouw (7) – Powered through three defenders for the Springboks’ first try and proved to be a safe lineout option, and stole two England feeds. Defensively sound, dominating the collisions and a force with ball in hand.

    6 Schalk Burger (8) – The English must have thought there were 15 Schalk Burgers on the pitch. The Boks would have hoped for more from Burger with ball in hand, but he was omnipresent in defence, tackling anything in a white shirt that dared move. Outstanding.

    5 Victor Matfield (7) – Stood up in a massive way. Like his team-mates, Matfield’s work-rate on defence was unbelievable, while his presence at the lineouts meant the Boks had a safe target to aim at, and the English were always wary of his poaching ability.

    4 Bakkies Botha (8) – A giant in a Test that suited his in-your-face style. Botha’s tackling and ruck cleaning ensured some England players won’t get out of bed easily on Sunday morning. His most telling contribution, however, came when he chased down England winger Ugo Monya and halted his momentum, saving what would have been a certain try. Awesome.

    3 Jannie du Plessis (6) – Scrummed well considering he had minimal time to prepare and was solid in all other facets of play.

    2 John Smit (c) (8) – He lead by example in everything he did and in doing so set the standard for his team to follow.

    1 Beast Mtawarira (8) – ‘The Beast’ was at his irrepressible best – powerful scrummaging and some telling ball carries. But his defensive display and the work-rate that drove that was breathtaking. Probably put in a gazillion tackles, and sustained that effort for 80 minutes.

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.11.08 09:50:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • Subs:

    16 Chiliboy Ralepelle (6) – Came on for 10 minutes in the first half to cover for the sin-binned Beast Mtawarira and acquitted himself well. Only given six minutes at the end of the match.

    17 Brian Mujati (7) - Made a massive impact with ball in hand when he came off the wood, battering tired England defenders and regularly crossing the advantage line. Shored up the scrum as well. Was everything the Boks needed in an impact player.

    18 Andries Bekker (7) – Was up with the pace and intensity of the match immediately and made a massive contribution on defence, while his pace and athleticism was a bonus on attack.

    19 Ryan Kankowski (6) – His involvement was limited to making a number of tackles, and he did that well.

    20 Heinrich Brussow – Not on long enough to make a fair assessment.

    21 Frans Steyn (7) – Added a physicality on attack and defence when brought on at flyhalf, and troubled the English in his time on the pitch. Showed composure and maturity that’s been lacking in previous opportunities at pivot.

    22 Jaque Fourie (7) – The Boks benefited immensely from his experience and he took charge of affairs when introduced – particularly on defence. Showed his hunger for victory late in the game when he chased a clearance, collected the ball, negotiated a tackler and dragged himself up to score.

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.11.08 09:50:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • I am a lot happier with the way Keo rates Bakkies and Matfield, compared to the way paul Dobson did.

    Bakkies deserves more than Matfield did for this game.

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.11.08 09:54:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • Peter Bills gave Jantjes a 5. While I think Bills is a total pratt, I also think he got that right. No-one mentioned him kicking the ball directly out twice from the restart!!!

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.11.08 10:40:10 by Baldrick Reply

    BaldrickCurrie Cup player
  • @Baldrick (Comment 16) :

    Where can i find Bills’ ratings?

  • Comment 17, posted at 23.11.08 10:52:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • @Baldrick (Comment 16) : Agree that Jantjes needs to take the blame for the poor restarts, however, it is not fair to blame him for the charge down. That was all Spies’ fault, not covering well, knocking the ball back, then recovering slowly and passing to Jantjes who was under more pressure than Spies was. Jantjes had little choice, Spies put him in a very bad position.

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.11.08 13:05:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld
    Dancing BearTeam captain
  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 18) :

    Yip and I said it yesterday. Slow ineffective hands by Spies caused that chargedown.

    Where did you end up watching BTW?

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.11.08 13:24:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) : Sunday Tribune.

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.11.08 13:46:46 by Baldrick Reply

    BaldrickCurrie Cup player
  • @Baldrick (Comment 20) :

    cool, will see if I can find it in the online version.

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.11.08 13:50:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • gud one 4rm the bbc606- Roses Are Red Violets Are Blue England 6 South Africa 42

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.11.08 13:57:42 by Bok-Clyde-Kiwi Reply

    Currie Cup player
  • @Bok-Clyde-Kiwi (Comment 22) : :razz:

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.11.08 14:06:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 19) : Setanta broadband. Once Spies had fumbled and recovered, he should have taken the ball into a tackle and recycled for the kick, not put Jantjes into such a bad position.

  • Comment 24, posted at 24.11.08 01:08:46 by Dancing Bear Reply
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    Dancing BearTeam captain
  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 24) :

    What about the rest of Jantjes’ average tour?

  • Comment 25, posted at 24.11.08 07:23:55 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 25) :

    You can’t really bring his previous performances into a discussion regarding a kick of his that was charged down though. Jantjes was there in support of Spies and had Spies not taken forever to control the ball before he passed it Jantjes would have cleared easily.

    Spies should have tidied up his mess and not sold Jantjes.

  • Comment 26, posted at 24.11.08 07:42:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • I think the 5/10 rating was about right, the “Some strong moments” description of his game was rather euphemistic!

  • Comment 27, posted at 24.11.08 07:46:10 by Baldrick Reply

    BaldrickCurrie Cup player
  • Individual ratings may differ – but we can all agree that every SINGLE player upped their game on Saturday. Even players who were bordering on below-average so far in the tour managed to dig deep from somewhere and found that extra fighting power.

    Credit to ALL the players, the Captain, Mr de Villiers and his coaching staff and all the people who were responsible for this memorable victory. BOKKE!

    ***Note to JP and the rest of the Sharkies : Well done and keep it up for the Super 14! :twisted: ***

  • Comment 28, posted at 24.11.08 08:20:34 by blckshrk - BOKKE Reply

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