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England stay 5th in World Rankings

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news on 25 Nov 2008 at 07:57
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Wales and France are the only movers in the top 10 of the latest IRB World Rankings, climbing one place to sixth despite losing 29-9 to New Zealand with France falling to seventh on the back of their loss to Australia on Saturday.

The IRB reports that although the All Blacks defended their 55-year unbeaten record against the Welsh with victory at the Millennium Stadium, they only improved their rating points by two hundredths to remain on top of the rankings with Wales’ total slipping to 79.55.

France’s 18-13 loss to the third ranked Wallabies at the Stade de France on Saturday evening was more costly, resulting in a 0.64 decrease in their rating points to 79.49 and dropping them below Wales into seventh.


The position of sixth or seventh will make no difference to France when it comes to the Rugby World Cup 2011 Pool Allocation Draw on 1 December as the sides ranked fourth to seventh will be seeded in band two and drawn randomly into the pools.

There could have been one other change involving Argentina and England and the race to secure fourth place and so join alongside New Zealand, South Africa and Australia in band one and avoid being drawn in the same pool as these heavyweights.

Argentina and England both suffered defeats on Saturday, the Pumas losing 17-3 to Ireland at Croke Park while Martin Johnson’s side suffered a record 42-6 defeat by South Africa at Twickenham in a repeat of the RWC 2007 final.

The defeats mean that both sides saw their rating points fall but had Ronan O’Gara converted Tommy Bowe’s late try to push Ireland out to a victory of more than 15 points then Argentina would have still slipped beneath England into fifth.

England will have another opportunity to sneak into fourth when they face New Zealand at Twickenham on Saturday, a match which will see the All Blacks trying to complete their grand slam tour having already beaten Scotland, Ireland and Wales.

Ireland, who would have slipped out of the top eight had they lost to the Pumas, have improved their rating points, but still sit just over a point behind France above them with Scotland, the 41-0 conquerors of Canada this weekend, remaining ninth.


  • So……………

    teams ranked in the top four of the IRB World Rankings on 1 December 2008 will not be drawn in the same RWC 2011 pool. Equally, a team ranked five to eight in the rankings will definitely be in the same pool as a team ranked one to four.

    1(1) NEW ZEALAND 92.43
    2(2) SOUTH AFRICA 89.45
    3(3) AUSTRALIA 87.34
    4(4) ARGENTINA 81.56

    5(5) ENGLAND 81.11
    6(7) WALES 79.55
    7(6) FRANCE 79.49
    8(8) IRELAND 78.45

    9(9) SCOTLAND 76.76
    10(10) FIJI 75.24
    11(11) ITALY 74.64
    12(12) SAMOA 72.57

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.11.08 08:18:58 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • England better hope that they are drawn with Argentina, or else they will have the difficult route to the final again as they did last year.

    but a lot can happen to a teams form in 3 years.

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.11.08 08:20:08 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • So who would we like to face from the 2nd group??

    Wales?? Not with Gatland as coach imo. :roll:

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.11.08 08:25:45 by wpw Reply
    wpwAssistant coach
  • I would love a grouping of


  • Comment 4, posted at 25.11.08 08:28:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach
  • @wpw (Comment 3) :

    Wales, Fiji and a few minnows would suit me just fine… but that’s a very far way away… Lions just around the corner…

    Joke Du Jour

    “England will have another opportunity to sneak into fourth when they face New Zealand at Twickenham on Saturday”

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.11.08 08:47:10 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
  • HA! Now the English are moaning about the “haka”… :roll:

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.11.08 09:24:01 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    IceAssistant coach
  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 6) :

    Because they are in for huge Kaka… this weekend…

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.11.08 09:53:39 by bryce_in_oz Reply

    bryce_in_ozCurrie Cup player
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 7) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.11.08 11:10:38 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    IceAssistant coach
  • Like Brad Thorn said in response to England’s objection to the haka – Maybe they should worry more about what happens after the haka than the haka itself. :twisted:

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.11.08 22:20:00 by McLovin Reply

    McLovinAssistant coach
  • @McLovin (Comment 9) : :lol:

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.11.08 22:26:29 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©Head Coach

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